How are alternate endings marked? Is "2." at the beginning of a line clear
enough?
At the repeat, I'm inclined to use a colon. However, I understand this is
not standard.
Jazz notation of chords does not appear to be available. The "+" sign is
used for sharps, making it inappropriate for augmented triads. (This is a
bit confusing, as a "D+" in school is closer to "C", a "D-" closer to "F".)
How does one denote the chords in a lead sheet? Is it necessary to write
them out, as "Asus4flat69/C", "Bflatmaj7flat5flat9", "Caug9/Fsharp",
"Eflatmajflat9sharp11", or "Fsharphalfdim7/C"?
Should chord names be compressed as much as possible?
Mark Whippey <ma...@cix.co.uk> wrote:
>(In fact there are ways of shortening the symbols for the
>most long-winded of the common chords which we've been using
>amongst a circle of musical e-acquaintances I am part of. In
>order to save space when laying things out we use:
>
> - for minor seventh (rather than "m7")
> ^ for major seventh (nearest we can get to a triangle)
> o for diminished
> @ for m7b5 (half-diminished) (nearest we can get to a
>slashed circle or phi)
> -^ for minor with major seventh (tonic minor)
And where should the harmony appear in relation to the melody? I'm inclined
to place it in parentheses before the melodic note on the same beat. It
won't fit on another line, because two chords in a measure would be wider
than the melody.
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>Jazz notation of chords does not appear to be available. The "+" sign is
>used for sharps, making it inappropriate for augmented triads. (This is a
>bit confusing, as a "D+" in school is closer to "C", a "D-" closer to "F".)
>How does one denote the chords in a lead sheet? Is it necessary to write
>them out, as "Asus4flat69/C", "Bflatmaj7flat5flat9", "Caug9/Fsharp",
>"Eflatmajflat9sharp11", or "Fsharphalfdim7/C"?
I know nothing of Elkies' notation, but am confused by the comments
above. There are many styles of chord notation in jazz, and not all of
them use the "+" sign. I personally don't use it at all. I use "#" to
indicate sharps, and in particular, #5 to indicate an augmented triad.
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>>Jazz notation of chords does not appear to be available. The "+" sign is
>>used for sharps, making it inappropriate for augmented triads. (This is a
>>bit confusing, as a "D+" in school is closer to "C", a "D-" closer to
"F".)
>>How does one denote the chords in a lead sheet? Is it necessary to write
>>them out, as "Asus4flat69/C", "Bflatmaj7flat5flat9", "Caug9/Fsharp",
>>"Eflatmajflat9sharp11", or "Fsharphalfdim7/C"?
>
>I know nothing of Elkies' notation, but am confused by the comments
>above. There are many styles of chord notation in jazz, and not all of
>them use the "+" sign. I personally don't use it at all. I use "#" to
>indicate sharps, and in particular, #5 to indicate an augmented triad.
D+ is a very common notation for Daug (D F# A#) though - although I can't
see in what way this might be "closer to C" (CEG).
D7+5 is often used in exactly the same way as D7#5.
While we're at it - you also often see D^7 (where by ^ I mean an upward
pointing triangle with a base - like a greek capital delta) to mean Dmaj7.
Is this a peculiar jazzer's notation or does it have wider acceptance and is
only absent from the newsgroups because of ASCII problems?
Dave
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I use D+7. It seems more logical; if
D7 is what you get when you add a seventh to the triad of D, and
Dm7 " Dm, then
D+7 " D+.
>
>While we're at it - you also often see D^7 (where by ^ I mean an upward
>pointing triangle with a base - like a greek capital delta) to mean Dmaj7.
>Is this a peculiar jazzer's notation or does it have wider acceptance and is
>only absent from the newsgroups because of ASCII problems?
It does have wide acceptance, but AFAIK only in jazz, as D^ is usually
taken to mean Dmaj7 on its own without the additional "7" and so using
it in more triad-based music can lead to confusion.
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>
>Dave
>Dave Webber
>Author of MOZART the Music Processor for Windows - http://www.mozart.co.uk
>Member of the Association of Shareware Professionals
>http://asp-shareware.org
>Member of the North Cheshire Concert Band http://members.aol.com/northchesh
>
>
>
>
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>
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>Still trying to figure it all out, Dave?
No - as far as being able to name standard chords is concerned, it's all
pretty straightforward and I learned how to do that over 30 years ago. I
hope _you're_ still enjoying trying to learn the names of the chords and
intervals though. Have you figured out the difference between diminished
sevenths and major sixths yet?
What is a little more challenging, and actually involves some art (rather
than just mechanical learning of names) is actually using the knowledge to
produce good music - in my case arrangements, but maybe one day
compositions.
But I know you're not interested in discussing music, so I won't bore you
with my problems.
A C7 arpeggio would be shown as PLAY "C E G B-"
Interestingly, it understood E# and F- but not B# and C-.
It marked its octaves beginning on C.
It didn't understand double flats nor double sharps.
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