RNC 1173
bet...@comcept.ab.ca
most intrigued by references to this piece I have seen on this Newsgroup but
have not encountered said device
many thanx
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I do not think there has been a negative post about this compressor yet.
Tom Harpel, La Push Records Seattle WA
http://homepages.infoseek.com/~lapush/
Harvey Gerst
>To find out about the RNC, visit http://www.fmraudio.com/.
>
>I do not think there has been a negative post about this compressor yet.
>
>Tom Harpel, La Push Records Seattle WA
>http://homepages.infoseek.com/~lapush/
Tom,
I think there were two. One from Lxh2 who heard strange artifacts -
and one from pedalman, I believe. The other 1,000 or so posts have
been very favorable. But it hasn't been unanimous, as you thought.
I personally think the RNC is cute as hell. I own two, too (to toot
total belief in the product). I will eventually go for four, for
forestalling any overly large signals from making their way to tape.
Slightly higher and drier in Krum, Texas than Mark is, in Austin.
Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
http://ITRstudio.com/
The Miff
>>
>>I do not think there has been a negative post about this compressor yet.
>>
>>Tom Harpel, La Push Records Seattle WA
>>http://homepages.infoseek.com/~lapush/
>Tom,
>I think there were two. One from Lxh2 who heard strange artifacts -
>and one from pedalman, I believe. The other 1,000 or so posts have
>been very favorable. But it hasn't been unanimous, as you thought.
>Harvey
One complaint that I recall is the lack of balanced I/O. Doesn't bother me,
though. Considering its' price, if that's the only valid negative, it can't go
wrong.
Personally, I like its' transparency. To contradict LXH2, I don't notice any
artifacts unless I set everything extreme...even then, pretty transparent.
The Miff
to email replace AnusKrevus with themiff
R Krizman
>I do not think there has been a negative post about this compressor yet.<
I'd prefer green knobs.
Rick Krizman
KrizManic Music,
Venice, CA
Rob Hoffman
I've been pushing the RNC around L.A. to the engineers I know and have a
few gotten a few criticisms....none of them concerning the sound. All
agreed that for the price it's amazing. Most of the comments were about
ergonomic issues which would raise the price, e.g. VU meters, detents,
and even in a few cases the desire to have it take up more rack space -
gotta impress those clients !!! I myself have one and on verge of
ordering #2, and #3.
Thanks to Mark for a great product,
Rob
Peter Pollack
:> lap...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
:>
:>>I do not think there has been a negative post about this compressor yet.<
:>
:>I'd prefer green knobs.
Perhaps you could lobby Mark for them on the RNEq, when it comes out.
-Pete Pollack
Eleven Shadows
> model, the RSC (Really Sucky Compressor)? : )
It's already out. It has four numbers for the model #, and they're NOT 1773!
--
Ken/Eleven Shadows
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eleven Shadows * ES songs on Real Audio * Music Reviews * Travels:
Peru-Ladakh-Kashmir-India-HK * Tibet * Real Audio Radio Shows
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Rob Hoffman
> model, the RSC (Really Sucky Compressor)? : )
I thought Alesis had renamed the 3630 the RSC . . . . sorry, had to do
it.
ROb
Kamchak Tuchuk
Kamchak Tuchuk
<eleven...@theeleventhhour.com> wrote:
>> perhaps he needs to come out w/ the evil twin
>> model, the RSC (Really Sucky Compressor)? : )
>
>It's already out. It has four numbers for the model #, and they're NOT 1773!
>
>--
>Ken/Eleven Shadows
LOL!!! I hear ya!
Kamchak Tuchuk
<rob...@Noix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Kamchak Tuchuk wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:43:22 -0400 (EDT), "Peter
>> Pollack" <postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> >On 22 Oct 1998 23:39:16 GMT, R Krizman wrote:
>> >
>> >:> lap...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> >:>
>> >:>>I do not think there has been a negative post about this compressor yet.<
>> >:>
>> >:>I'd prefer green knobs.
>> >
>> >Perhaps you could lobby Mark for them on the RNEq, when it comes out.
>> >
>> >-Pete Pollack
>> >
>> >
>>
>> perhaps he needs to come out w/ the evil twin
>> model, the RSC (Really Sucky Compressor)? : )
>
>I thought Alesis had renamed the 3630 the RSC . . . . sorry, had to do
>it.
>
>ROb
I see a couple of you guys are on the same page!
Good call. LOL!!!
Brad Upchurch
>
> WAhttp://homepages.infoseek.com/~lapush/
I really hate how the RNC sounds so good. I mean, it really pisses me
off that when people say "damn! That sounds good! How much did it cost??"
All I can say is $188. It really sucks when I can hear exactly what the
compressor is doing, and have digital calibrated controls. I also hate how
small it is. I can fit the damn thing in my pocket. Those three
compressors in one, this "super-nice mode" thingy makes the sound so smooth,
it really pisses me off. And the transparency!!! Damn, I sometimes can't
even tell when the fucking thing is on. Geez, with my Alesis 3630, at least
I could tell when it was on......Everything had that beautiful muddy/mushy
sound; I didn't even have to hear the lyrics the singer was drooling into
the mic. Now I have to hear every fucking thing "singers" are mumbling and
spitting. All those behringer & Alesis knobs and lights, that gave me a
comforting sense of false security; I really thought that all that tweaking
and careful adjustment on my part was doing something!! Now I feel
betrayed, like the day I found out that my fisher price steering wheel in my
moms car wasn't really driving the car....That all along it was her steering
wheel that make the wheels turn... Shit. Now I have this 1173 that has
silk-screened numbers on the dials that actually correspond to what it was
doing. After about a week of using the thing I noticed the numbers and I
looked at the gain reduction meter, and I just said "fuck! I don't believe
it!". I mean, I always thought those numbers and silk-screening (like on my
3630) were just to look cool, not to actually mean anything! ...Jesus...
And man, I liked it better when I could imagine the lyrics, instead of
actually hearing that constipated cat feces loud and clear. Down with FMR.
I'm going to buy every single unit they painstakingly and perfectly create
just so no one else will have to go through the pain of realizing how shitty
their racks full of Behringers', Alesis', samsons, furmans, and dbx's really
are. We must all unite, for together, we can bring down this evil, honest
company that is succeeding at making a perfect, affordable, and versatile
compressor. For if we do not, all of the other manufacturers of compressors
may actually be FORCED into creating quality products to save their
monopolies and third world sweatshop factories. For the sake of commerce,
for the sake of third world regimes using slave labor to create products in
exchange for weapons, for the sake of bad lyrics, for the sake of humanity,
buy 1173's and stock up more than The Reverend Pres. Dr. Mark Ph.D. could
ever create.
Amen.
Brad Upchurch
-=Jenkins Sound=-
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>Would someone be so kind as to tell me what an RNC 1173 Compressor is? I am
>most intrigued by references to this piece I have seen on this Newsgroup but
>have not encountered said device
>
>many thanx
I have three. 2 used mono and 1 for stereo. They all 3 fit into one
rack space. They sound great. I also have a "composer" and I much
prefer the RNC. I tend to use the "Super Nice" mode most of the time.
With the "Super Nice" mode, you can really squash a signal harshly
without noticable tonal problems.
My only complaint is that the knobs are so small in diameter that the
settings are a bit tricky. i.g. it is only a couple degrees diference
between a 1:1 and 1:2 ratio.
I can't see how you can go wrong buying an RNC.
--<DKID>
"The only thing more important than the truth... is the pursuit of it!"
(Theme from X-FILES can be heard in background...dah dum da dum dee dah...)
gga...@uscom.com
Eleven Shadows
> off that when people say "damn! That sounds good! How much did it cost??"
Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these things
because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
Jon Best
> Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these things
> because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
Don't be ridiculous. I've got a nice fat paycheck myself coming from
somewhere in Texas. Here's a trick- you can take the guts out of one of
these pieces of crap and stick the innards from a real compressor, like
the Alesis Nanocompressor, in there. Lucky they make a 1/3 rack
jobbie, too. Then you'll have a compressor you can REALLY hear working,
and people will still think you've got that silly RNC in the studio.
Jon Best
Recording Guy
Dan Kennedy
clowns for. :-)
Dan Kennedy
Eleven Shadows wrote:
>
> > I really hate how the RNC sounds so good. I mean, it really pisses me
> > off that when people say "damn! That sounds good! How much did it cost??"
>
> Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these things
> because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
>
Lyle Caldwell
blow Fletcher's fuckin mind. Don't tell him. It's gonna be a surprise...
--
Lyle
The RAP CD in Blue web site is at:
http://www.hoohahrecords.com/rap/index.htm
Jon Best wrote in message <363145...@erols.com>...
>Eleven Shadows wrote:
>
>> Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these
things
>> because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
>
hank alrich
> Yeah, and what really pisses me off is the rate he got you
> clowns for. :-)
>
> Dan Kennedy
BTW, Dan, thanks for the chocolate.
> Eleven Shadows wrote:
> >
> > > I really hate how the RNC sounds so good. I mean, it really pisses me
> > > off that when people say "damn! That sounds good! How much did it cost??"
> >
> > Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these
> > things because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
--
hank alrich
secret__mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"
DCMagnuson
In article <nAbY1.8962$Ty1.2...@news3.mco.bellsouth.net>, "Lyle Caldwell"
<cald...@bellsouth.net> writes:
>I'm gonna gut a 3630 and put the electronics from an RNC in there. Oughta
>blow Fletcher's fuckin mind. Don't tell him. It's gonna be a surprise...
Hey Lyle, I'll let you put YOUR RNC guts in MY 3630 any day....
Dave
DCMag...@AOL.com
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Eleven Shadows
hank alrich wrote:
> Dan Kennedy <dken...@minn.net> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, and what really pisses me off is the rate he got you
> > clowns for. :-)
>
I'm willing to take offers.
> > Dan Kennedy
>
> BTW, Dan, thanks for the chocolate.
AND the button, too!
>
>
> > Eleven Shadows wrote:
> > >
> > > > I really hate how the RNC sounds so good. I mean, it really pisses me
> > > > off that when people say "damn! That sounds good! How much did it cost??"
> > >
> > > Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these
> > > things because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
--
Kiira Triea
+------
| > I really hate how the RNC sounds so good. I mean, it really pisses me
| > off that when people say "damn! That sounds good! How much did it cost??"
|
| Mark pays us to say these things. You don't think we keep saying these things
| because they actually sound that good, do you? ;)
Have you ever opened one up... they are filled with shipping peanuts!
That's why you "can't even hear them working"... they're not. They are
really transparent because there is a (very) short silver,
mono-directional, oxygen free jumper running from the inputs to the
outputs. Personally, I would like them better if they were full rack
size, but I see Mark's point... that would require more peanuts and
raise the price. :-)
Kiira
Kiira Triea
+------
| Yeah, and what really pisses me off is the rate he got you
| clowns for. :-)
+------
I guess you haven't looked at the price of Dos Equis lately? The stuff
is up to $6.50 now.
Kiira
Mark McQuilken
Damn it, Kiira!! You *swore* you wouldn't tell...
--
Mark McQuilken
FMR Audio
http://www.fmraudio.com
(800) 343-9976
(512) 280-6557
Chris Gieseke
that you mentioned to me on my RNC compressor. That was the tip you
mentioned where you slow down the attack just enough to let the impact
of the guitar sound come through(I have the attack set to the 6.0
position) while compressing the rest of the sound. I have the release
set at around the .07 setting (almost all the way down counter
clockwise).
Damn the RNC sounds great for that application. I'm micing up my
little Marshall ministack using a SansAmp GT-2 for distortion and a
Sennheiser 421 mic a little off the center of the lower 10" speaker.
Two words...
Kick Ass!
I'm not even using the Super Nice mode, and it's limiting all the rowdy
lower mid/bass rumbly stuff while giving my a big heavy impact when I
strike a chord without any pumping or breathing. I had to play around
with the release or did pump a little but once I got it set just right,
the pumping was gone. I'll probably try it later on Super Nice mode,
but I'll then probably have to readjust the threshold and the ratio
settings. Right now the threshold is set at -5 with the ratio set
at...holy cow...25:1. I didn't even realize I had the ratio up that
much! Keeeeewwwwl!!!!! No wonder it was pumping a little bit at first
until I got the release setting just right. I was just moving the knobs
while listening through my headphones and not really paying much
attention at what settings each control was at.
I also used the RNC on some vocal tracks and acoustic guitar tracks
yesterday with outstanding results. Mark, I would highly recommend that
you make the pro version of the RNC with programmable settings. Right
now I have to write settings down on my recording log book. Of coarse I
change settings on every song, but it still would be nice to have a
starting point for certain sounds that you can save into memory.
For all of you who don't own an RNC compressor, you don't know what you
are missing. The more I use mine, the more I am amazed.
The only negative comment I can make on it is that its controls are very
sensitive but you get used to that. Also on SuperNice Mode there is a
little bit of lag between the time you adjust the controls and when
those settings take effect, but those are just minor gripes. It also
gives the user a ton of power but also gives inexperienced users more
then enough rope to hang themselves. But like any compressor, the more
you use it the more you become familiar with its sound and settings.
Thanks again Mark for the outstanding piece of equipment, also thanks
Ken for the great tip on compressing distorted rythm guitar tracks.
Chris G.
Eleven Shadows
Chris Gieseke wrote:
> Hey Ken, I tried that trick compressor tip on distorted rythm guitars
> that you mentioned to me on my RNC compressor. That was the tip you
> mentioned where you slow down the attack just enough to let the impact
> of the guitar sound come through
> Two words...
> Kick Ass!
>
> I'm not even using the Super Nice mode
You know, I don't know if I've ever tried it on that mode or not, so I'd be
interested to hear what you end up finding. The effect just may be a little
too subtle with Super Nice mode. When the chord strikes, I like the attack
to poke through, and then have the compressor clamp down afterwards. But I
like to do it viciously, so that each chord is a big slap in the face
sonically. Every time a big chord is hit, I want it to sock someone in the
jaw sonically. Super Nice mode may be a little too nice for this, but
that's just my suspicion. Try and and post back here with your opinions!
> Thanks again Mark for the outstanding piece of equipment, also thanks
> Ken for the great tip on compressing distorted rythm guitar tracks.
>
Have fun! Recording distorted guitar tracks is always so much fun!
Mothra666
like that was the joe Meek stuff. I heard it and thought "That's a lot of money
just because it's green". Well , at least the rnc is cheap.
Philip
(on his way to buy one)
Philip Stevenson
Http://members.aol.com/mothra666/chris.htm
"I'm too fucking busy and vice-versa"
- Dorothy Parker
Lorin David Schultz
>
> Personally, I would like them better if they were full rack size...
Please forgive me for adding a serious note to this otherwise perfectly
good thread, but...
I'm with Kiira. The last time I rewired my home rig I swore I would
never again buy a piece of gear that didn't have +4 balanced I/O and
rack mounts. That takes the RNC out of the running.
Put me on the list of people willing to pay a higher price for a 1U/XLR
RNCwBIO&RM.
Lorin
Irwin Shur
<snip>
> Have fun! Recording distorted guitar tracks is always so much fun!
>
> --
> Ken/Eleven Shadows
Almost as much fun as playing them. <big g>
Irwin Shur
is...@apv.com
Mike Rivers
> Yeah, and what really pisses me off is the rate he got you
> clowns for. :-)
Hey, you got me for a handful of chocolate.
Hey, everyone! Buy a Great River Compressor! Oh? There isn't one?
Whatever.
--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mri...@d-and-d.com)
hank alrich
I'm also one of those who dislikes the RNC's little package...but not
enough to scratch it off my list. It functions so damn well that I will
make the concession this time. I've just ordered a universal rack shelf
to fasten mine down with a rack screw (it's tapped on the bottom) so I
needn't pack it separately for gigs.
And considering the cost and the fact that _performance-wise_ one need
make _no_ concessions about its quality, I find it one really valuable
dynamics box and I want two more of them to fill that rack space.
There are bigger and more costly really neat things in the pipeline and
yes, we should all probably lust for these, but seeing as we are
inundated with unbalanced inserts on "affordable" "consoles", the RNC
has a fat niche wherein it bats like the big kids. And for the muso, it
interfaces with preamps (like my Alembic F2B) and processors (like my
DP4) going or coming casually unbalanced. And for the sidechain gang, it
offers access.
If the packaging alone is keeping anyone from trying an RNC, that person
is cheating their own self out of a fine little audio experience. And
shoot, a racking box, some XLRs and Jensen xfrmrs, and you're balanced.
All of which will cost about 2.5 to 3 times the purchase price of the
RNC itself.
hank alrich
> it's hard not to be suspicious of something everybody loves. The last
> thing like that was the joe Meek stuff. I heard it and thought "That's a
> lot of money just because it's green". Well , at least the rnc is cheap.
>
> Philip (on his way to buy one) Philip Stevenson
Yeah, ain't it a pisser to join a bunch of yoyos in search of their
strings? But a lot of folks raving about the RNC are not people who rave
about the Meek stuff, even if they _like_ the Meek gear, because that
very coloration which is so gorgeous on some signals is intrusive on
others, whereas the RNC shines in part because of its versatility and
transparency.
And no, Mark doesn't pay me to say this stuff.
Viki...@yahoo.com
*makes* the compressor. The only reason I take it out of super nice mode is
laugh at how much it pumps in normal mode. Then I think to myself "thank you
Mark for making three compressor circuits in a row in Super Nice mode." But
I'd much rather have the RNC have a hard/soft knee swith and always be in
super nice mode... mark, are you paying attention?
In article <36326629...@theeleventhhour.com>,
eleven...@theeleventhhour.com wrote:
>
>
> Chris Gieseke wrote:
>
> > Hey Ken, I tried that trick compressor tip on distorted rythm guitars
> > that you mentioned to me on my RNC compressor. That was the tip you
> > mentioned where you slow down the attack just enough to let the impact
> > of the guitar sound come through
> > Two words...
> > Kick Ass!
> >
> > I'm not even using the Super Nice mode
>
> You know, I don't know if I've ever tried it on that mode or not, so I'd be
> interested to hear what you end up finding. The effect just may be a little
> too subtle with Super Nice mode. When the chord strikes, I like the attack
> to poke through, and then have the compressor clamp down afterwards. But I
> like to do it viciously, so that each chord is a big slap in the face
> sonically. Every time a big chord is hit, I want it to sock someone in the
> jaw sonically. Super Nice mode may be a little too nice for this, but
> that's just my suspicion. Try and and post back here with your opinions!
>
> > Thanks again Mark for the outstanding piece of equipment, also thanks
> > Ken for the great tip on compressing distorted rythm guitar tracks.
> >
>
> Have fun! Recording distorted guitar tracks is always so much fun!
>
> --
> Ken/Eleven Shadows
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Eleven Shadows * ES songs on Real Audio * Music Reviews * Travels:
> Peru-Ladakh-Kashmir-India-HK * Tibet * Real Audio Radio Shows
> http://www.theeleventhhour.com/elevenshadows
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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In article <19981025011843...@ng97.aol.com>,
moth...@aol.com (Mothra666) wrote:
> it's hard not to be suspicious of something everybody loves. The last thing
> like that was the joe Meek stuff. I heard it and thought "That's a lot of money
> just because it's green". Well , at least the rnc is cheap.
>
> Philip
> (on his way to buy one)
> Philip Stevenson
>
> Http://members.aol.com/mothra666/chris.htm
>
> "I'm too fucking busy and vice-versa"
> - Dorothy Parker
>
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chri...@txdirect.net
eleven...@theeleventhhour.com wrote:
>
>
> Chris Gieseke wrote:
>
> > Hey Ken, I tried that trick compressor tip on distorted rythm guitars
> > that you mentioned to me on my RNC compressor. That was the tip you
> > mentioned where you slow down the attack just enough to let the impact
> > of the guitar sound come through
> > Two words...
> > Kick Ass!
> >
> > I'm not even using the Super Nice mode
>
> You know, I don't know if I've ever tried it on that mode or not, so I'd be
> interested to hear what you end up finding. The effect just may be a little
> too subtle with Super Nice mode. When the chord strikes, I like the attack
> to poke through, and then have the compressor clamp down afterwards. But I
> like to do it viciously, so that each chord is a big slap in the face
> sonically. Every time a big chord is hit, I want it to sock someone in the
> jaw sonically. Super Nice mode may be a little too nice for this, but
> that's just my suspicion. Try and and post back here with your opinions!
>
> > Thanks again Mark for the outstanding piece of equipment, also thanks
> > Ken for the great tip on compressing distorted rythm guitar tracks.
> >
>
> Have fun! Recording distorted guitar tracks is always so much fun!
>
> --
> Ken/Eleven Shadows
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yup, I tried it out later that evening on SuperNice mode, and even after
really working the controls for a good 15-20 mins I couldn't get as heavy of
a sound as I could on just the regular mode. Like you said, the SuperNice
mode was just too nice. Also though, I couldnt get the release fast
enough...I could always hear the release audibly on supernice mode. However
this also has something to do with having 3 compressors layered together and
me using fairly high compression ratio settings. At lower ratios I could
only hear the release slightly. Also on the normal mode, when I was using a
massive 25:1 ratio, the release was only slightly noticable after the
compressor clamped down on the sound after the initial hit of the note. Very,
very cool big-ass-in-your-face sound. As long as I get big guitar sounds
with no noticable pumping and breathing, then I'm a happy camper! Recording
distorted guitar tracks is definatly a blast...nerve racking sometimes as it
often tends to screw with your head, but also tons of fun and really
satisfying when the guitar track really sounds happening in the mix.
Chris G.
chri...@txdirect.net
Viki...@yahoo.com wrote:
> You really should try pushing that "Super Nice" button in! To me, that mode
> *makes* the compressor. The only reason I take it out of super nice mode is
> laugh at how much it pumps in normal mode. Then I think to myself "thank you
> Mark for making three compressor circuits in a row in Super Nice mode." But
> I'd much rather have the RNC have a hard/soft knee swith and always be in
> super nice mode... mark, are you paying attention?
Actually I differ in opinion. I actually tried it again in Super Nice Mode,
and oddly enough I got more pumping on the Super Nice mode, then when on its
normal mode. However this is only when using the RNC on distorted rythm
guitars. On everything else:bass, vocals, drums, ect... I agree with you
totally, the Super Nice mode sounds much smoother, but on really heavy
distorted guitar sounds it behaves differently. This doesnt suprise me as
heavy guitar sounds give most compressor fits when you try to compress them.
Don't ask me why but it is quite difficult to compress a really heavy rythm
guitar track without killing the richness and the "heaviness" of the sound on
most budget compressors. The RNC can do it quite well on the regular mode.
Better in my opinion then on the SuperNice mode, so please Mark, dont take
out the regular compressor mode! If you don't beleive me, if you got an amp
and guitar handy their in your studio, dial up a big heavy tone. Then mic it
up well with a good mic, and patch in the RNC and start turning the dials on
each mode. See for yourself what you think. If you find some better
settings for very heavy distorted rythm guitar on Super Nice Mode, I'd love
to hear about them and try them out myself on different guitar sounds. The
sound I got was as Ken described. A really high-impact guitar sound that
slams you in the chest. If you try it out, please post your results on this
thread. To me these kinds of threads are really informative. Anyone else
reading this feel free to join in with your comments on RNC usage and tricks.
Chris G.
> In article <36326629...@theeleventhhour.com>,
> eleven...@theeleventhhour.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Chris Gieseke wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Ken, I tried that trick compressor tip on distorted rythm guitars
> > > that you mentioned to me on my RNC compressor. That was the tip you
> > > mentioned where you slow down the attack just enough to let the impact
> > > of the guitar sound come through
> > > Two words...
> > > Kick Ass!
> > >
> > > I'm not even using the Super Nice mode
> >
> > You know, I don't know if I've ever tried it on that mode or not, so I'd be
> > interested to hear what you end up finding. The effect just may be a little
> > too subtle with Super Nice mode. When the chord strikes, I like the attack
> > to poke through, and then have the compressor clamp down afterwards. But I
> > like to do it viciously, so that each chord is a big slap in the face
> > sonically. Every time a big chord is hit, I want it to sock someone in the
> > jaw sonically. Super Nice mode may be a little too nice for this, but
> > that's just my suspicion. Try and and post back here with your opinions!
> >
> > > Thanks again Mark for the outstanding piece of equipment, also thanks
> > > Ken for the great tip on compressing distorted rythm guitar tracks.
> > >
> >
> > Have fun! Recording distorted guitar tracks is always so much fun!
> >
> > --
> > Ken/Eleven Shadows
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Eleven Shadows * ES songs on Real Audio * Music Reviews * Travels:
> > Peru-Ladakh-Kashmir-India-HK * Tibet * Real Audio Radio Shows
> > http://www.theeleventhhour.com/elevenshadows
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
>
Eleven Shadows
Viki...@yahoo.com wrote:
> You really should try pushing that "Super Nice" button in! To me, that mode
> *makes* the compressor. The only reason I take it out of super nice mode is
> laugh at how much it pumps in normal mode. Then I think to myself "thank you
> Mark for making three compressor circuits in a row in Super Nice mode." But
> I'd much rather have the RNC have a hard/soft knee swith and always be in
> super nice mode... mark, are you paying attention?
I use the Regular Mode just as often. Super Nice mode I love for vocals, but --
well, see Chris' post for distorted guitar tracks. You can't do this with Super
Nice mode. I like the flexibility of both. I used to chain my compressors
together to have less artifacts occasionally. I can't believe that I can own a
compressor that switches from three compressors in series to a "regular"
compressor with just a push of a button -- for under $200!!!!!!! I like the
regular mode for guitars, and it's an absolute MUST for squashing room mics while
tracking drums. I used Super Nice mode for bass guitar yesterday and got good
results from it.
Eleven Shadows
> enough to scratch it off my list. It functions so damn well that I will
> make the concession this time. I've just ordered a universal rack shelf
> to fasten mine down with a rack screw (it's tapped on the bottom) so I
> needn't pack it separately for gigs.
Industrial-strength Velcro and that thing ain't gonna go anywhere.
Patrick Stirrat
switch? I recently was using the RNC for room mics when tracking drums
and got everything dialed in on Super Nice mode. But somewhere along the
line, I think the power strip got switched off, and the RNC went back to
normal mode. Didn't catch it in time, and got a lot of unwanted pumping
on the track. My fault for not catching it at the time, but was
frustrating nonetheless.
I use Super Nice mode about 80% of the time and would prefer that to be
default.
Oh yeah, when is that RNEQ coming out anyway?
Thanks for a great product at a great price.
>
> Viki...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> You really should try pushing that "Super Nice" button in! To me, that mode
> *makes* the compressor. The only reason I take it out of super nice mode is
> laugh at how much it pumps in normal mode. Then I think to myself "thank you
> Mark for making three compressor circuits in a row in Super Nice mode." But
> I'd much rather have the RNC have a hard/soft knee swith and always be in
> super nice mode... mark, are you paying attention?
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Viki...@yahoo.com
Ken at Eleven Shadows obviously knows how to get tons of mileage out of
regular gear, so if he has found a use for normal mode, then there you have
it. In any event, it's a great little box. I think we could all agree that
we'd like to see more features on it. This is what I'd like to see added:
+4/-10 switchable, rack ready, dual mono ability, soft/hard knee control,
non-wall-wart power supply.
In article <712n43$s0n$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
chri...@txdirect.net wrote:
> In article <7126d5$flr$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> Viki...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > You really should try pushing that "Super Nice" button in! To me, that mode
> > *makes* the compressor. The only reason I take it out of super nice mode is
> > laugh at how much it pumps in normal mode. Then I think to myself "thank you
> > Mark for making three compressor circuits in a row in Super Nice mode." But
> > I'd much rather have the RNC have a hard/soft knee swith and always be in
> > super nice mode... mark, are you paying attention?
>
> > > --
> > > Ken/Eleven Shadows
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Eleven Shadows * ES songs on Real Audio * Music Reviews * Travels:
> > > Peru-Ladakh-Kashmir-India-HK * Tibet * Real Audio Radio Shows
> > > http://www.theeleventhhour.com/elevenshadows
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> >
Eleven Shadows
Viki...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Fair enough! It seems that people have found uses for "normal mode." And
> Ken at Eleven Shadows obviously knows how to get tons of mileage out of
> regular gear, so if he has found a use for normal mode, then there you have
> it. In any event, it's a great little box. I think we could all agree that
> we'd like to see more features on it. This is what I'd like to see added:
> +4/-10 switchable, rack ready, dual mono ability, soft/hard knee control,
> non-wall-wart power supply.
Me, too, but I reckon that would drive up the price of the RNC quite a bit. Patrick
Stirrat brought up a good point about the hard switch, as I believe he phrased it. I
did the very same thing too where I had it going on a vocal, and the power musta gotten
shut off momentarily. It was a pretty different vocal sound which I didn't catch right
away. But really, I have very little complaints at all about the unit. For the money,
I'll put up with the lack of those things you've described above! The sound alone
makes up for it. I'll be picking up more of them soon.
Dallartist
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YOU GUYS ARE GREAT FUN !! While learning my VS-880, I MUST set my sights on at
least FOUR RNC 1173's now !
Keep up the good vibes.