CANON VS NIKON
Magic
the world would be mighty boring if everyone did!
I have just finished reading (yet another) long boring thread about canon v
nikon; this time started under the heading "When will canon replace th EOS
1N."
Well if I may begin by saying I own an extremley large PRO Canon setup
consisiting of an EOS 1N and many L series Lenses. I have also used an F5 on
several occassions. Put simply both are brilliant cameras producing
wonderful exposures. Both rival a sherman tank for robustness and both are
overkill for just about any situation. I have no hesitation (being a Canon
user) in saying that both cameras and optics are on par with each other. The
issue of Canon V Nikon is in actual fact a Non-issue. When we look at a
photo we dont ask "was that taken with a canon or nikon?" we ask "what
f-stop, shutter speed did you use? or, what film is that?" Or, "Wow, how did
you achieve that effect?" What matters is the final image. If it is sharp,
well exposed and well taken who cares wether it was taken with a canon or
nikon.
While we can certainly sit back and compare features of these top cameras
and agree to disagree on which is the more "User Friendly" etc... our time
would be better spent in critiquing each others images.
People we are about the image! Not about feuding between brands.
When people ask me which brand I reccomend in cameras I simply say
"whichever feels right to you." As long as you are using a camera which
takes a good exposure and feels comfortable to use you will produce good
images.
We can compare the finite differenences between brands for as long as there
continues to be competing brands but our time would be better spent out
their taking photographs and enjoying what we do! The art of photography...
If you have taken the time to read this then I thank you. If you have any
comments please E-mail me. (Lets critique our images!) :)
Regards
Josh
Light & Magic Photography
Devin Shieh
: Well this is going to be $1.80's worth. Not everyone is going to agree but
: the world would be mighty boring if everyone did!
Josh, don't waste your, umm, "breath." Kids love their arguments. Just
think of it as a "my penis is begger than your penis" argument between
older kids, except that the participants' penises are really small and
they're really envying the guy 10 yards away who doesn't give a shit
about his penis because he knows it works well for him. ;-)
Devin
Jakob Bisgaard
Well this is going to be $1.80's worth. Not everyone is going to agree but
the world would be mighty boring if everyone did!
I have just finished reading (yet another) long boring thread about canon v
Hi Josh
I agree completely. Both Canon and Nikon (and Contax/Zeiss and Minolta
and Pentax and Leica and ...) have their strong points. I always
found
the threads "My Canon is 5X better than yours Nikon" or "My F5
is much
better than your EOS 1" quite similar to "My dad is stronger than
yours"
or "Red is a much more beautiful color than Blue". Incidently I
shoot
Nikon and my brother shoots Canon and we never had any similar
discussions,
so who cares. Both Canon and Nikon have their shares of excellent
lenses
and junk lenses. If some guy states that he wants to buy one of
the lenses
from either Canon or Nikon that I don't like, I feel absolutely
NO need to
flame him. Why on earth would I do that? Maybe we should start
a Flame vs
No Flame thread :-)
Regards
Jakob
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Thomas Bantel
"Magic" <ma...@vic.bigpond.net.au> writes:
>We can compare the finite differenences between brands for as long as there
>continues to be competing brands but our time would be better spent out
>their taking photographs and enjoying what we do! The art of photography...
>
>If you have taken the time to read this then I thank you. If you have any
>comments please E-mail me. (Lets critique our images!) :)
>
>Regards
>
>Josh
Josh,
I largely agree with you. The brand wars are mostly a waste of time.
BUT, discussing features of cameras, lenses and other equipment is
of course what this group was meant for.
It's called rec.photo.EQUIPMENT.35mm, so talking about equipment is
perfectly on topic here. For other aspects of photography we have
other groups. So, if there's something to complain about, then it
would be that the volume of this group is much bigger than the others ;)
Thomas
Only Me...
I agree with what you say, but you're just baiting the big babies who
just LOVE to argue that "there's is better than yours", and within 24 hours,
you'll have started another Canon vs Nikon thread. Well Done!
I think it's about time we all started a "who's pictures are better than
who's" type thread, where we all post the URL of our website, so we can all
criticize each other's work. Now THAT would be interesting, and will
certainly demonstrate that either a Nikon, or a Canon, may as well be a
piece of shit when put in the wrong hands. All this who's camera is better
than who's is all just a bunch of childish crap. It's a camera, that's all.
No one's insulted your Mother, or the size of your penis, so just grow up,
and take some photographs to prove how good YOU are, not your equipment.
Luis Neves
lenses everywhere, then i ask "Do you have lenses for Minoltas?"
"No, i have only professional equipment".
"Yeah", i think, "another one that dont know a damm about what photography
is... maibe he even doesnt know that i take 99.9% the very same photo with a
Pentax P30 or a Nikon F5... "
Get lost to guys like those!!
Hans van Zeeland
500.000 (I believe) shutterreleases. I don't think a P-30 - as good a
camera as it may be in terms of optical quality etc. - is that reliable.
Hans van Zeeland
The Netherlands
Luis Neves <lne...@cm-lisboa.pt> wrote in article
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NJFotomakr
>500.000 (I believe) shutterreleases. I don't think a P-30 - as good a
>camera as it may be in terms of optical quality etc. - is that reliable.
>
>Hans van Zeeland
True,but for the price of the F5,you can buy 10 P30's
Makepeace Lake/Weymouth Furnace
Black and White Photography
Blah
wrote:
>I have just finished reading (yet another) long boring thread about canon v
>nikon; this time started under the heading "When will canon replace th EOS
>1N."
>issue of Canon V Nikon is in actual fact a Non-issue. When we look at a
>photo we dont ask "was that taken with a canon or nikon?" we ask "what
>f-stop, shutter speed did you use? or, what film is that?"
>Regards
>
>Josh
Not on this newsgroup, Josh. The typical reader here shoots a whole
roll of print film, realizes that they all look like crap. .switch to
slide film in hopes it will make things better. .still crap. ..add
$1000 lenses . ..still crap. ...and then the only thing left to do is
disparage users of disimilar systems so as to make up for their own
inadequacies.
Bobski
Magic <ma...@vic.bigpond.net.au> wrote in article
<6si1qu$9ua$1...@m2.c3.telstra-mm.net.au>...
>
>
> I have just finished reading (yet another) long boring thread about canon
v
> nikon; this time started under the heading "When will canon replace th
EOS
> 1N."
You understate the lentg and amount of boredom.....
>When we look at a
> photo we dont ask "was that taken with a canon or nikon?" we ask "what
> f-stop, shutter speed did you use? or, what film is that?" Or, "Wow, how
did
> you achieve that effect?" What matters is the final image. If it is
sharp,
> well exposed and well taken who cares wether it was taken with a canon or
> nikon.
It is obvious that you are a pro. Many people ask what kind of camera.....
Maybe not the C v N question, but an equipment oriented question none the
less. While many of the questioners are not photographers by any strech of
the imagination, many are interested in buying a camera and are easily
swayed by what was used to make a photo that they like.
> People we are about the image! Not about feuding between brands.
To many, the camera around the neck is "THE IMAGE".....
> When people ask me which brand I reccomend in cameras I simply say
> "whichever feels right to you." As long as you are using a camera which
> takes a good exposure and feels comfortable to use you will produce good
> images.
Amen!
> We can compare the finite differenences between brands for as long as
there
> continues to be competing brands but our time would be better spent out
> their taking photographs and enjoying what we do! The art of
photography...
Amen again!
> If you have taken the time to read this then I thank you. If you have any
> comments please E-mail me. (Lets critique our images!) :)
>
> Regards
>
> Josh
>
Well "spoken".....
Bob
Ron Higgs
> roll of print film, realizes that they all look like crap. .switch to
> slide film in hopes it will make things better. .still crap. ..add
> $1000 lenses . ..still crap. ...and then the only thing left to do is
> disparage users of disimilar systems so as to make up for their own
> inadequacies.
Cute and cogent comment.....I certainly get this impression from reading many of
the postings....
--
Ron
Home Page & Photo Gallery: http://www.flash.net/~erhiggs
Richwood, Texas
bon...@mailcity.com
Very well said both of you. I can't agree more. This let me think back to
about 3 years ago, when my school first offering photography courses, almost
all students were using the FM-2. The lecturer recommended FM-2 just for 2
simple but very valid reasons: It's a fully manual camera, so it's good for
beginner to do all the stuffs by themselves; the students can use all the
Nikon lenses belong to the school, therefore, don't need to search for big
fund. However, after the first batch, the FM-2 has become a religion. The
students, since new to photography, thought it's the camera that make the
photo, not the lens. In fact, they are using first rate lenses like 105
f/2.5 macro, 80-200 f/2.8 and manual 28-80 nikkor. So the recommendation to
their junior is "you must get an FM-2 to get good result, it is the only
choice, and it is recommended by the lecturer" Poor to them, and what a
pitty when they can pick up something like a used F-801s for much less than a
FM-2, but offering much more advantage. If they are really interested in
photography, they will just use a fully automated camera in fully manual.
But apparently, the FM-2 users out there can only do the match needle
thing... (should be match diode, + and -), and don't even have a clue what
the + and - mean. Another irony just happen for this semester. One
beginner, starting to take the photography course is so rich that he got more
than $1200 to spend, and finally, guess what he got? A F-90X and a .......
28-200 Nikon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My deepest condolences to him...
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Eugene Ageenko
consumer lenses (zooms) are famous to be better than Canon / Nikon
competitors.
But you can find shops whi sells only Leica systems, because they sell
only professional Equipment. ;-)
Eugene
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In article <35f273aa...@news.pacbell.net>,
bl...@blahblah.com (Blah) wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:01:14 +1000, "Magic" <ma...@vic.bigpond.net.au>
> wrote:
> >I have just finished reading (yet another) long boring thread about canon v
> >nikon; this time started under the heading "When will canon replace th EOS
> >1N."
>
> >issue of Canon V Nikon is in actual fact a Non-issue. When we look at a
> >photo we dont ask "was that taken with a canon or nikon?" we ask "what
> >f-stop, shutter speed did you use? or, what film is that?"
>
> >Regards
> >
> >Josh
>
> Not on this newsgroup, Josh. The typical reader here shoots a whole
> roll of print film, realizes that they all look like crap. .switch to
> slide film in hopes it will make things better. .still crap. ..add
> $1000 lenses . ..still crap. ...and then the only thing left to do is
> disparage users of disimilar systems so as to make up for their own
> inadequacies.
>
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Jonesy
> We can compare the finite differenences between brands for as long as there
> continues to be competing brands but our time would be better spent out
> their taking photographs and enjoying what we do! The art of photography...
Quite so, but the reason brands are compared is because it is easier than
taking a good photo.
Huw