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Bob Brown

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Jun 8, 2003, 11:20:45 PM6/8/03
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I have a website that has been copied by a person(s) based in China. The
only difference between my website and theirs is that they did a search and
replace on my program name and replaced it with theirs. They obviously
downloaded every file, picture and user comment and made it their own
website. It is unconcienable.

My question is; do I have any recourse given limited funds and the
convenient fact the plagiarism exists in that friendly Chinese country?

BB


booster

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Jun 8, 2003, 11:25:44 PM6/8/03
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do you pursue any one who cracked or warezed your program with the same
intensity?

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Dan

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Jun 9, 2003, 1:19:07 AM6/9/03
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They're in China? Forget it. There's nothing you can do.

If they were foolish enough to link to images on your site rather than copy
the images and host them on their site you could have some fun changing them
(say, a pile of steaming dog excrement). From "They obviously downloaded
every file, picture..." I take it they didn't link to your images. Pity.

S. Housley

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Jun 9, 2003, 7:36:59 AM6/9/03
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>My question is; do I have any recourse given limited funds and the
>convenient fact the plagiarism exists in that friendly Chinese country?

If they are selling software, try contacting their online registration service,
often they can assist you with any infringement issues. If they host in the US
and its a clear violation of your content you may be able to work with their
hosting company to resolve the violation.
Goodluck.
Sharon Housley
NotePage, Inc.
http://www.notepage.net
Leaders in Wireless Messaging Software

Pavel Koryagin

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Jun 9, 2003, 8:33:52 AM6/9/03
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Hello Bob.
I've read the same message from another person some days ago.
But the next his message stated:
"I have wrote to them (he scare they? - P.K.), and now, they stole design in
other place"

Good luck,
P.K.

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Brandyware

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Jun 9, 2003, 8:49:18 AM6/9/03
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Did you do a Whois? Maybe the site is hosted in China, but owned by some guy in
Miami?

If China ... link a second "DL link" to their site, and pull some traffic off
your server! If they host your file <g>

Really ... if China, just forget about it.

Bob Brown

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Jun 9, 2003, 12:13:33 PM6/9/03
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Hi Group, thanks for the replies thus far. I did do a Whois search and came
back with this data:

Domain Name: ZHANGDUO.COM
Registrar: XIN NET CORP.
Whois Server: whois.paycenter.com.cn
Referral URL: http://www.paycenter.com.cn
Name Server: NS3.CHINADNS.COM
Name Server: NS4.CHINADNS.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 13-oct-2002
Creation Date: 13-oct-2002
Expiration Date: 13-oct-2003

This appears to be China to me. Is there any other information I can get
about these criminals?

BTW, they did do a full downloand of all my images and web pages. They do
not link to me at all.

BB


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J French

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Jun 9, 2003, 1:35:10 PM6/9/03
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

Having said that, it will probably spur you into updating your website

Laurent JEAN-VINCENT

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Jun 9, 2003, 2:24:52 PM6/9/03
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Can you provide a link to the pirated/pirate web site so that we have an
idea what it is about.

It looks like you and this "competitor" are involved in a commercial trade
or service of any kind.What you could do is try to find a place where you
could post about this theft so that it could be read by their potential
customers,you could stress the fact that if they are capable of stealing web
content,then their software is probably not very trustworthy either (and
link to your own at the same time).
You should browse their website and links for a while until you can find a
suitable adress (forum,newsgroup whatever) where you'll be sure that a good
share of their potential customers will be touched by your message.If
necessary pretend that you are yourself a potential customer in order to get
sufficient "connexions".

Of course,once you'll have made this denunciation you'll be sole responsible
for bringing sufficient evidence to back up your claims.

Note that if their customers are chinese only this will have less impact.

Bob Brown <v...@home.com> a écrit dans le message :
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Dan

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Jun 9, 2003, 9:36:04 PM6/9/03
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"Brandyware" <brand...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Did you do a Whois? Maybe the site is hosted in China, but owned by some
guy in
> Miami?
>
> If China ... link a second "DL link" to their site, and pull some traffic
off
> your server! If they host your file <g>
>
Whatever you do DON'T do that. They can sabotage your business by putting a
virus or some other nasty file in the link if they find out you are linking
to them.


Karl

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Jun 10, 2003, 9:07:05 AM6/10/03
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This seems more than just plagiarism- from what I can see they are
stealing your money too?

The website you state http://www.zhangduo.com/ is calling itself
HunterSoft and is selling the software "My Drivers" via this link:

https://secure.element5.com/shareit/checkout.html?productid=166814

So is this you or them? Have they stolen your software and are selling
it as their own?

If so it will be easy to fix, element5 will quickly close down
accounts that are selling stolen software, they'd be sued out of
business in a week if they didn't!!

I notice that the software has been registered on shareware sites as
pointing to
http://www.zhangduo.com/

Good luck!
Karl

Bob Brown

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Jun 10, 2003, 10:40:08 AM6/10/03
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The page that they copied from me is:

http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm

The copied work is here:

http://www.zhangduo.com/driverbackup.html


They haven't stolen my shareware work (yet), just the web page.

BB

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Steve Pavlina

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Jun 10, 2003, 2:41:32 PM6/10/03
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Looks like they sell through Share*It. Contact Share*It to let them know
what's going on -- the plagiarizer is likely violating Share*It's membership
agreement, so you may be able to convince Share*It to remove their account.

How you tried emailing the culprit and simply telling them to remove your
content? That approach works 90%+ of the time for me, regardless of the
country of origin, and I've had to deal with a *lot* of plagiarism over the
years. Most of the time it's extreme laziness (and very poor judgment) that
causes people to do this. They usually aren't intentionally trying to harm
anyone, so when caught, it's like a deer in the headlights, and they'll
usually take the content down quickly.


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Steve Pavlina
Dexterity Software
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