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A new technology that will accomplish the following:

This technology allows all six billion people on this planet to have
access to affordable heat, air conditioning, electricity, food, and
fuel.

This is the first approach to large and very large scale solar power
generation that is cost-effective. Before this technology, large scale
solar power generation was not economically feasible. Obviously, in
the United States, the oil and gas companies need to control this
aspect of this technology, to avoid causing economic damage.

The housing that can be constructed lasts 100,000 years or more, is
hurricane-proof, flood-proof, fireproof, and tornado-resistant. As a
result, immense amounts of destruction and human pain and suffering
are prevented.

The cost of housing is cut in half in the USA, and as low as a
thirtieth the current costs in some third world countries.
It brings the rest of the world up to the standard of living in the
USA.

It will cause the greatest expansion of the U.S. economy and stock
markets ever, solely as a result of cutting the cost of housing in
half.

This is the first approach to large and very large scale biomass and
hydrogen fuel generation that is cost-effective. The world's fuel
supplies are running out. Oil first (50 years at most left worldwide:
1973 US DOE), then coal (300 years left in the USA: 1973 US DOE), then
natural gas (1000 years left in the USA: Wall Street Journal). This
technology guarantees an endless supply of fuel for the world via
natural gas biomass or hydrogen fuel production, and an endless supply
of electricity. Eventually, or in as little as 50 years, it can allow
man to avoid cooking himself off the Earth as a result of the CO2
greenhouse effect, because it can generate as much solar power
generated hydrogen fuel as man can use. In the USA, it keeps the fuel
producing geography the same as it is now: biomass or hydrogen fuel is
produced in the southernmost States.

This technology can allow the colonization of the Moon and Mars, and
could be the beginning of man's expansion into space.

It can expand the total population capacity of the Earth to 100 times
what it is now, or more, and would easily provide the fuel, food, and
electricity to provide a high standard of living to all 6 trillion
inhabitants.


Here is the original page: There are two or three concepts that are
not explained on the page, that follow the page listing:

begin pyrex2.htm:
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(5/26/01: version 1.1)
(5/26/01: important update: ultralightweight chambered foamed extruded
structural pyrex: see end of page)

I invented a Pyrex extrusion technique that will allow large Pyrex
panels to be extruded.

While this may seem like a small accomplishment at first, a closer
examination reveals this to be one of the largest advances in the
history of the human race. The basic technique is not at all
complicated, although some modifications to the basic technique, like
making foamed extruded Pyrex for improved strength and weight
characteristics are more involved.

Let's begin with a lesser use of this machine, standard building
construction. (For example, 24 by 40 foot by 8 inch thick Pyrex
panels)

This machine allows houses and buildings to be constructed at less
than half the cost of conventional construction methods.

Houses and buildings constructed with this material last (a very
conservative estimate) 100,000 years.

Housing built from this material is fireproof, earthquake-proof,
flood-proof, hurricane-proof, and tornado-resistant, and it never
needs siding, paint or shingles.

While cutting the cost of most buildings in half, it will reduce the
need for Federal disaster relief by 20 billion dollars a year, or 71
dollars a year for every man, woman, and child in the USA (the USA
population is 280 million).

A category 5 hurricane (the strongest) cannot flood, damage, or
destroy this type of building. Neither can F-1, F-2, or F-3 tornadoes.
Only an F-4 or F-5 tornado (the rarest and most powerful) can damage a
house so built, but it cannot destroy it. The housing can be made to
duplicate the look of all present methods of construction,
incorporating any standard architecture.

Normally, it is difficult to make large glass panels because the odds
are great that a large panel will crack as it cools. I invented a
concept which I call shock tempering, which will allow Pyrex to be
extruded at a high rate of speed with no danger of the Pyrex cracking
or developing faults because it is cooled too fast, which also imparts
properties into Pyrex that are normally only found in metals.

Pyrex is standard glass which has borate compounds added to it. The
concept of shock tempering uses a hot side and a cold side, spraying
small molten Pyrex droplets from the hot side and Pyrex dust or tiny
broken Pyrex shards frozen to the temperature of liquid Nitrogen from
the cold side. The exact ratio has yet to be determined through
experimentation, but is likely near 20 percent cold and 80 percent
hot.

Any glass contracts when it cools, and if cooling occurs too fast, the
glass will develop stresses and crack. However, cold glass expands
when heated, and can counteract the contraction of the hot glass.

The technique also has the effect of randomizing the internal
structure of the glass to a very high degree, preventing the large
polarized crystal planes normally found in glass that cause stress
failures (cracks) from ever forming in the first place.

It should be obvious that such a machine can be built, because
materials exist that can stand up to the high temperature of molten
Pyrex. If this were not true, then Pyrex coffee pots, baking dishes,
test tubes, extruded Pyrex rod, etc... could not be manufactured.
Given that these materials do exist, it is simply a question of how
best to put them to use, and large numbers of variations of the basic
concept are possible. A machine to extrude flat panel would be
different in geometry and size and speed than one designed to travel
through the desert, feeding itself sand.

If Pyrex baking dishes can be manufactured, then you know as fact that
Pyrex bricks can be manufactured, and then permanently welded together
into houses and schools with torches and lasers. This approach would
still cost less than half what the same structure normally costs.

As for the floors, even if you had to use Pyrex bricks that were
welded together, they would still have the strength to support 4 king
sized waterbeds on the second floor of a house.

Pyrex has the structural strength required. Take a Pyrex baking dish
and feed it to an automobile crusher at the junkyard, and note how
much hydraulic pressure it takes to crush it. I say it can be done
with large shock tempered Pyrex panels, but if you are unsure, there
is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it can be done with Pyrex
bricks.

Extrusion of large panels is better because it is much faster, much
less labor intensive, much stronger, and I like it because you can let
a computer control the ejection nozzles to alternate tints, like green
and white to simulate jade, or white and black to simulate marble.

I say that for $50,000, I can build the frame, roof, walls, floors,
and ceilings of an 8 bedroom house with an attached 5 car garage, and
that this house and three of the garage stalls would be flood-proof,
and all of it would be earthquake-proof, fireproof, termite-proof,
hurricane-proof and tornado-resistant.

This house would have 8 inch thick Pyrex outer walls, 2 ½ inch thick
Pyrex floors and roof, 1 inch thick Pyrex inner walls, with a 3 ¾ inch
space in between the inner and outer walls that holds 3 ½ inch thick
Pyrex slugs with rubber seals that slide out to cover the door and
window openings in case of flood or hurricane.

A locking mechanism as simple as a spring-loaded 'T' shaped steel bar
locks these slugs to the outer walls so that any exterior impact or
force is transferred to the outer load-bearing walls, not the inner 1
inch thick walls. One simply slides the slugs over the openings,
inserts the T-bars from the outside, attaches the springs and locks
from the inside, and then pushes and twists the T-bars to lock the
slugs onto the outer walls. A generator is installed in the garage,
and 2 sump pumps are installed between the walls to pump out water
from between the inner and outer walls in case one or more of the
seals should fail. Even the cars and tools inside the garage are safe
when a Category 5 hurricane strikes. Bored with watching the
hurricane, you use your generator to watch pre season football from
your mini-dish inside the roof.

Whether bricks or flat panel were used, the costs would be 2 dump
truck loads of sand valued at $1200, $2000 worth of energy, $2000
worth of excavation, $200 worth of additives, $2000 worth of equipment
payments, $1000 worth of equipment maintenance and repair, $15,000 for
government regulations, programs, and taxes, and $25,000 in labor
($35,000 labor if bricks)

It would take one week to build this structure. The structure would
only include half of the final interior walls, half of the plumbing
(Pyrex pipe), no wiring, no windows, doors, carpeting, fixtures,
appliances, or cabinetry. Still, the $50,000 builds what it would cost
$200,000 to build using any other conventional construction method, in
1/10 to 1/30 the time.

I pull up to the job site with my two semi trucks and their flatbed
trailers. I offload the excavation equipment and set it to work
digging out a basement. I offload a small crane, numerous large-footed
jacks, a tamping machine, and the pyrex extrusion machine. I set the
tamping machine to work tamping down an area of dirt until the dirt is
pounded down solid as a rock. The tamping machine runs for 24 hours,
and this ends the first day of construction.

The second day, I back the two trailers onto the hardened dirt, and
unfold the steel plates from the beds. I use the jacks to hold these
plates (and the trailers themselves) up and level them out, so the
trailers are transformed into two 24 foot by 40 foot extrusion tables.


I then use the crane to set the 24 foot long extrusion machine back on
one of the extrusion tables, and I set it to work. I use a temporary
forming plate to begin building up the extrusion, and the frozen and
molten pyrex are sprayed onto that. After the extrusion starts,
further extrusion gets sprayed onto the pyrex already extruded. This
begins and continues building up the extruded pyrex panel. Carried
slightly above the surface of the extrusion table by the crane, the
machine moves down the length of the table, laying down the panel as
it travels. After one panel is finished, the machine travels back to
the other end, laying down a thin sheet of steel foil as it travels,
to separate the panels and keep them from adhering to each other.

24 hours later, the two extrusion tables contains four 8 inch thick 24
by 40 foot panels and one 1 inch thick panel, four 2 1/2 inch thick
panels and 5 one inch thick panels. The panels are allowed to cool for
48 hours.

If you believe that the weight would be excessive, it would be, but
read further below (at the end of the page) regarding foamed and
foamed chambered pyrex. The weight of these types of panels is 1/5 to
1/2 that of solid panels. For now, the description will concentrate on
solid panels.

On the fifth day, the panels are removed and cut into the appropriate
sizes and shapes with water nozzles. Machines that use high pressure
water nozzle technology exist that are currently being sold on the
open market. The extremely high pressure water that is ejected from
these nozzles is capable of cutting through four inches of solid
steel. Artificial diamond dust nozzle sandblasting may be a less
expensive alternate panel cutting method.

The panels are assembled in the appropriate configuration, and work
begins welding the panels together with lasers and torches. Although
the panels are tinted, there are certain frequencies of light that
will pass right through the panel as if the tint was not present.
(This might be a good motivation for painting, paneling, or carpeting
the interior walls, so no one with a special camera can see through
your house.)

A laser emitter at the proper frequency produces a beam which is
focused to a 8 ( or 2 1/2 or 1) inch thin line rather than to a point,
and this line is reflected 90 degrees slightly before it's focus
convergence point. This produces a device that emanates a 3 1/2 inch
beam in the form of a focused line of laser energy that emanates
straight out from the front of the device. Consider Luke Skywalker's
or Darth Vader's light sword, but only 8 inches long, much thinner,
and far less powerful...

This device is applied to the joints between the panels, and slowly
slid down the entire length of the joint. This permanently fuses the
panels together. A simple butt joint suffices, as any other type
provides little if any structural advantage, considering the strength
of the weld. This is the same principle used in metal welding.

Torches are then used to finish any weld not completely done by the
lasers, and to smooth the welds so they are not easily visible or
obvious. This also denies the future passage of water into any small
deficiencies in any of the welded joints, which could in some climates
be a source of trouble if it froze and expanded. Extra tinted Pyrex
can be added at the joints to fill small indentations or for tint
correction

Wiring and plumbing: either high pressure water nozzles or a
diamond-bit router is used to route channels into the walls. In the
case of plumbing, the routed depth is half the diameter of the pipe.
The wiring or pipe is then laid in the routed channel, and a Pyrex
cover is put in place over it. In the case of wiring, a filler piece
of pyrex is inserted into the channel flush with the wall surface.

Although there are many other small details, the general idea should
be apparent by now. Realistically, it would take a week and a half to
two weeks to get the job done, but it could be done in a week.

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A house built this way, properly sealed in the event of an oncoming
hurricane or flood, with a vent pipe extending from the roof and a
power generator in the garage with a sufficient fuel supply, can be
completely covered with water for weeks, and not a single drop of
water will pass the inner walls into the house or the garage.

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This method creates more jobs and employment than it destroys. If you
are only paying half what it would normally cost to buy a house, what
are you going to do with all that extra money? Instead of being so
hard up for cash that you have to buy a junk $99 self-assembled home
entertainment center it took some low paid worker 15 minutes to puke
out of particle board machine, you will want to spend $1250 on a solid
oak entertainment center it took a skilled craftsman a week and a half
to build. Which provides more employment? There would be far less
framing carpentry work. However, given the choice, any carpenter would
much prefer to perform skilled craftsmanship than to build house
frames.

The need for roofers would be reduced and eventually eliminated
entirely. This is nothing but progress, because you don't see many old
roofers. Working on a 160 degree roof takes its toll on those people.
If a similarly high paying job came along, any roofer would take it
over roofing. Roofers will have to find something else to do. All the
money that exists now to be spent will still exist. It will just be
spent differently. More people will have more free money as the cost
of housing is reduced, and this will create at least as many jobs as
it destroys. Many of these jobs will be higher paying than the job
that had been eliminated, as in the carpentry example above.

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Housing is the lesser aspect of this invention. The major aspect is
described below. Somewhere in between these levels of impact lies in
undersea construction, for example transportation tunnels. This
technology could have built the tunnel under the English Channel for a
fraction of the cost it took.

Doubling the size of Japan or Great Britain by siphoning sand of the
ocean floor is another potential aspect. Colonization of the moon or
mars is possible as a result of this invention, if the current studies
show that there is enough water at the poles.

Perhaps eventually these will turn out to be major aspects of the
impact of Pyrex extrusion. But for now, the major aspect is
terraforming worthless desert on this planet, because it solves the
coming energy shortage.

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The government has spent more than 100 billion dollars on nuclear
fusion research, and accomplished nothing. It has been known for 30
years that vast amounts of electricity could be generated with solar
power, but a huge area had to be covered with collectors or
converters, which was far too expensive to even consider. The pyrex
extrusion machine has the capability to overcome this obstacle.

For a million and a half dollars in startup costs, and the land rights
to half of New Mexico and Arizona, I could turn that entire area into
a massive solar power generation facility, capable of supplying 85
percent of the total U.S. demand for electricity, and it would only
take me 50 years, without any additional investment beyond the initial
million and a half. Like nuclear fusion, it harnesses the power of the
very sun, but it also turns that entire area into a huge hydroponics
growing facility, and also covers the entire area with two levels of
solar power cooled living, manufacturing, and industrial space. It can
provide electrical power 24 hours a day, spinning up 20 ton glass
extruded flywheels during the day and spinning them back down at
night. The desert is made of sand. Glass is made of sand. Pyrex is
glass that has (inexpensive ’20 Mule Team’) borate compounds added to
it. A percentage of the hydroponics growing facilities will produce
biomass crops, for conversion to natural gas both for sale, and to
generate electricity during periods of extended cloud cover.

With passive solar, (massive water tanks heat storage), one can only
get water hot enough to boil directly from incident solar power for an
hour ot two on a few of the hottest days of the year in the lower
latitudes, mid-Texas and south in the USA. However, Carbon
Tetrachloride, a common, inexpensive, non-toxic, stable chemical used
mainly as a dry cleaning agent, boils at only 79 degrees C rather than
the 100 degrees C it take to boil water. Carbon Tetrachloride Steam
driven turbines and pumps can rotate generators to provide
electricity. Most of the parts, the tanks, the piping, even the
turbine cores, bodies, and blade assemblies, can be fabricated from
pyrex. The generator bodies and armatures can also be, but the
generators also require copper and iron ferrite.

From about Oklahoma southwards, even in only 50 or 60 percent sunlight
in cloudy conditions, the latitude is low enough to boil Carbon
Tetrachloride in triple insulated glass holding tanks. The best
approach is to use massive extruded water storage tanks, and smaller
CT tanks, and use the heated water to boil the CT.

This provides about 1/2 of the total power generation potential. The
other half comes from a solar/wind design built into the extrusion.

Say I have the land rights to half of Arizona and New Mexico, and a
million and a half dollars.

I would start by using about somewhere near half that ($500,000 to
$750,000) to design and build the first generation Pyrex extrusion
machine. The machine would then be built and put into operation at the
edge of this territory.

The machine would travel through the sagebrush, filtering out trees
and plants with gates and screens, allowing only dirt and sand to pass
into the machine. The need for a machine with tracks rather than
wheels is obvious.

The sand and dirt are then preheated and superheated to melting, and
pass through numerous filtering stages and centrifuges to remove the
unwanted bottom and top level slags, similar to steel refining.

By the time the sand passes these filtering stages, it is nearly pure
silicon, and the borate compounds are then added.

Part of the machine extrudes multiple strands of thin (say about 3 /
64th inch) pyrex rod and rapidly freezes it and breaks it into tiny
shards.

When the machine is first engaged, a form is used as an extrusion
surface, and the extrusion gets sprayed onto the form. From that
point, the extrusion gets sprayed onto what has already been built up,
frozen pyrex from the cold side, and molten pyrex droplets from
nozzles on the hot side. This is done in a potassium rich atmosphere
to add strength and prevent atmospheric condensation from forming on
the frozen shards.

A cooling system cools down the extrusion tunnels (where the pyrex
which has already been extruded is passing as the machine moves
along). The pyrex is not cooled down to normal atmospheric
temperature, only enough ( a few hundred degrees) to give it enough
strength to stand on it's own as it passes out of the machine. This
also prevents the extrusion from adhering to the walls of the
extrusion tunnels.

Another section of the machine would be turning out turbine and
generator parts.

This first generation machine would leave single story buildings
behind it as it traveled along, comprised of only a large triple
insulated water tank with pipes to carry CT running through it, with a
smaller CT tank inside the water tank.

An example might be a 8 x 10 foot cylindrical (oval) tank inside a 10
x 12 clear cylindrical greenhouse inside a 12 x 14 foot clear
cylindrical greenhouse inside a 14 x 16 foot clear cylindrical
greenhouse.

The machine would have an automatically (remotely) reconfigurable
nozzle assembly and slide plate assembly so that sections of this
structure can be extruded and the ends sealed off. At the end of a
length of section, the nozzles would reconfigure and spray the end
closed by sliding the slide plate carrying the nozzles from one end to
the other after retracting the extrusion tunnels..

This way, any trouble in one section does not affect any other, and it
provides attachment points for the turbines and generators.

This method of construction is not inexpensive; electricity costs to
power the machine are likely to cost $250 an hour or more.

However, soon enough power is being generated from the turbines to
supply power to the machine, and it can disconnect from the power grid
and become self-contained.

Soon after this, the sale of electricity to the nation power grid
begins, and income is realized. After two years, enough income is
realized to build a second machine. Within four years, 4 machines are
operating. At the end of eight years, 16 machines will have been
creating these power generation assemblies, and truly respectable
amount of proceeds from the sale of electricity will have been
realized. This builds up a respectable 'war chest' of finances to
build and design the second generation machine.

The second machine makes the first one look like an idiot joke in
comparison. Visualize the machine they use to haul the Space Shuttle
out to the launch pad from the Vehicle Assembly Building, and you get
some idea of the scale of the second generation machine, although this
machine will be even larger than the Space Shuttle carrier.

The second generation machine stops screwing around and starts leaving
7 story tall buildings behind it as it travels through the desert
feeding itself sand and dirt. Each level is wider than the level above
it. Imagine steps.

The top level is wide enough to drive an automobile through. The next
lower level will be wide enough to drive two automobiles through, and
the roof of the next lower level will provide two outer floors on this
second level, one on each side of the level, each being wide enough to
drive an automobile on top of, and so forth. The third level will be
wide enough to drive three or four automobiles through, again having
the roof of the next lower level for use as roadways on either side.

The bottom level will be totally underground, the level above that
being halfway underground. The flat roofs of each level except the
bottom level can provide another purpose beside being used for
roadways. The surface can be deeply grooved, and the grooves can store
water, making each roof a swamp cooler. When water evaporates, it
carries large amounts of heat away with it. There is plenty of
information regarding the principles of operation of swamp coolers
available on the internet. It is a natural air conditioning method
that can keep the temperatures inside the lower three levels down
below 75 degrees, even when the temperature outside is 120 degrees.

The top two levels will house CT power generation. The two below that
will provide hydroponic gardens with climate control capabilities
which are capable of growing anything from winter wheat to pineapples
and coffee, even at latitudes as high as Montana or as low as Mexico.
The technology behind hydroponics is also widely available on the
internet. This can provide a completely controlled environment: no
weeds, no pests, and complete artificial climate regulation.

The three bottom levels provide living, manufacturing, industrial, and
transpiration space. The bottom level serves an additional purpose,
cool or cold air storage.

In the daytime, heated air rises out of vents in the upper levels of
the extruded structures. Cool air from the bottom level moves up to
replace it, though strategically designed and placed air shafts,
turning wind generators as it rises. It can be shown by inexpensive
demonstration that impressive rates of airflow can be obtained, and a
40 mile per hour wind generated in these air shafts, if they are few
in number and aerodynamically designed. 40 mph is the speed at which a
wind generator operates at its highest efficiency. The wind speed is
controlled by the number of wind generators operating. To slow down
the wind speed, more blades are brought on line, and to reduce it,
blades on some of the generators are feathered, shutting down the
generator. Although the number of individual generators is not great,
a respectable amount of power can be produced this way. A rough
visualization example might be 15 wind generators in each of three air
shafts, per linear mile of extrusion. Any more than this would slow
down the airflow too much, and cause inefficiency.

At night, vents on the lower level that were slightly opened in the
daytime are fully opened on to let the cool nighttime air into the
lower level. If designed properly, a smaller amount of reverse airflow
generation is possible this way.

This construction and power generation model would be unthinkable with
any other construction method, but it can easily and inexpensively be
implemented with the Pyrex extrusion machine.

At any rate, the same financial model holds for the second generation
machine: First one, then two, then four, then eight, then sixteen,
then 32 extrusion machines. 50 years is a very conservative estimate.
It can probably be done in 40 years.

An important point is that the layout and design has to be right the
first time, because the structures that are extruded may well still
exist long after the Pyramids have turned to dust and blown away. A
mistake made early on cannot easily or inexpensively be corrected. The
internal transportation networks on the lower levels are a perfect
example of this. A pneumatic tube delivery system can easily be
implemented, but it needs to be designed with a future in mind.

This can make it possible for you to use the internet to place an
order at Taco Bell, and have it show up at your residence three
minutes later. It make make taking out the trash as easy as dumping it
into a compartment in the wall, where it disappears and is never seen
again. Remember, the upper levels adsorb the majority of the solar
radiation, the lower levels have tinted roofs, and the swamp coolers
provide air conditioning. To keep the temperature at 70 degrees, only
rarely would an electrical air conditioning system have to be used. To
keep the temperature at 75 degrees, an electrical air conditioning
system would never have to be used. There is plenty of heated water
storage to provide heat at night.

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This technology can allow for huge areas of otherwise worthless land,
desert and sagebrush in Texas, Oklahoma, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and
New Mexico, to be converted into some of the most productive land in
the United States.

Huge climate controlled storage tanks can inexpensively be produced
that can house hydroponics farms, conventional soil farms, or marine
biomass and fish farms. The ocean can be reproduced on a smaller scale
inside massive clear cylindrical storage tanks, and the temperature
and aeration precisely regulated to accommodate almost any form of
marine life. This can easily take the proven concept of high natural
gas production rate marine biomass technology and make it land-based.
Do not underestimate this, because it can solve the energy problems of
the USA, permanently.

Very satisfactory results have come out of the marine biomass research
farm programs, but this is an immense improvement. Giant sea kelp in a
controlled environment, free from natural hardships and predators, and
kept at the optimum growing temperature, should easily far exceed its
already impressive growing rate of 2.5 feet per day.

Thermal reflective shielding (shading), either manually or
automatically moved, can precisely dictate how much solar energy is
allowed into the tanks and how much is blocked. Even if very dark
clouds blocked the sun for months in the dead of winter in a mid-Utah
based installation, a high enough temperature (130-140 degrees) to
kill the kelp would be reached if the shields were fully retracted.
(For this reason, the design would prevent the shields from ever being
retracted that far...) Marine biomass would be superior to land based
plant biomass, because the growing temperature can be higher, and the
growth rates much more impressive. However, land-based ethanol crop
production from high energy content plants is also an alternative.

In any case, the environments can be carefully controlled, free of
parasites, with only beneficial life forms present. It also
constitutes a segmented architecture, in that a problem in one tank is
not likely to be transmitted to other tanks. In the far future, with
marine tanks, when the electrical production is up to its full
potential, microwaves can sterilize the circulating water, and only
the desired life forms can then be selectively introduced. In the near
future, microwaves can sterilize a given tank in which a problem may
have developed, for example a corn blight that occurs from a random
contamination can be limited in scope to a single tank among
thousands, and sterilized as soon as it is detected rather than
spreading to the rest of the acreage.

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If this technology is carried to anywhere near its full potential, the
truly immense amounts of natural gas and ethanol that can be produced
this way can easily meet the demand for electricity when the sun is
covered by clouds, with enough left over to meet the entire U.S.
demand for natural gas.


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The potential of the Pyrex extrusion machine to affect society is
immense. It is capable of providing for man long after the oil runs
out (we have about 25 to 60 years’ worth left worldwide) and the coal
runs out (the USA has 300 years left).

Don't underestimate that trouble coming, soon enough.

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Editing: this needs to be moved to another file: What follows is not
immediately relevant to pyrex extrusion.

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Because I have claimed to have a spiritual goal to be an inventor, if
you feel some bizarre need to judge me because of my lack of
saintliness, judge me on my accomplishments as an inventor. Compare
the efforts of the Church in Africa with my efforts. The church sends
free food to an area that cannot support the people it already has,
and the people there breed like rabbits. 20 years later we see hideous
massacres like the recent one in Rwanda, truly immense amounts of
human suffering. Millions were raped, killed, and tortured.

My solution? Africa holds the Sahara desert, the largest depository of
silicon on the face of the earth. The glass extrusion technology can
take Africa in general, basically some of the most worthless land on
the face of the earth, and turn it into some of the most valuable, and
bring its citizens up to the standard of living we enjoy in the United
States, allowing them to provide for themselves. This is the
difference between giving a man a fish and teaching him to fish.

When the oil runs out in the Middle East, without the Pyrex extrusion
technology, you would have many desperate countries with no
substantial assets except millions of people who blame their economic
problems on the USA, and stockpiles of chemical and nuclear weapons.

With Pyrex extrusion technology, the Middle East would have the
ultimate trading arrangement, because the hydroponics gardens that can
be truly inexpensively produced from the desert sand can rival the
crop output of Iowa or California, and you have the Russians, who have
vast quantities of raw materials such as iron and copper and aluminum,
but always have food shortages. The perfect trading arrangement. I
really ought to get the Nobel prize, regardless that I had assistance
from the gods to invent it.

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I doubt it would hurt America much, because in the rare cases the
Russians actually pay the USA for our grain exports, they don't pay us
much. This one invention is capable of preventing truly immense
amounts of human pain and suffering. The main directive of both
Buddhism and the Bible is that your main responsibility as a human is
to reduce, prevent, or eliminate human pain and suffering. Considering
what I have invented, my accomplishments in this respect are truly
immense.

70 years after this technique has been possible, I finally invent it.
It isn’t even that advanced a concept, and there have been tens of
thousands of people who have worked manufacturing and designing Pyrex
products. The vast majority of the knowledge I possess that allowed me
to invent it, I learned in basic metallurgy in high school metal shop
and in high school chemistry class.

I took proof of what Minnesota pulled with my driver’s license to the
Minnesota Attorney General's office. Their decision to defend the
criminal activities of the Minnesota government rather than the rights
of the people has caused at least an 8 year delay in the development
of the Pyrex extrusion technology, a loss of $568 for every man,
woman, and child in the USA. It is certain that the criminal activity
occurring in the first place caused an even longer delay.

If Minnesota government criminals hadn’t got in the way, I would
likely have at least a half a million of these houses constructed in
hurricane territory by now. As it is, with the damage that was caused,
I have only been able to reach a small fraction of my original
potential as an inventor.

Had it not been for that, I should have had half a million hurricane
proof houses built by now, if not more. This cost you what I said it
did above, as a bare minimum, but it is likely that the damage has
cost you a lot more than that, and will cost even more if it doesn’t
get repaired, because I won’t invent a tiny fraction of what I should
have been able to invent. So far, Minnesota saved their taxpayers
about 20 cents each by siding with criminal scum against me and the
gods. It only cost everyone in the USA at least $568 dollars each.
Typical government efficiency…

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A more advanced use of the extrusion techniques is the manufacture of
foamed Pyrex. Foaming pyrex can increase the strength and greatly
reduce the weight of the panels or extrusion.

When glass is coated with molten potassium, it increases the breaking
strength of the glass 8 times over. Normally potassium cannot be put
inside glass, because potassium turns to a gas at the temperature of
molten glass. A method exists with the Pyrex extrusion machine however
that can put potassium inside the glass. The technique can also be
used to foam the pyrex, greatly reducing its weight while at the same
time dramatically increasing its strength.

This is accomplished by producing having the machine mass produce
millions of microminiature potassium filled Pyrex bullets to shoot
from the cold side. A conveyor belt setup with multiple racks can be
used, with each rack carrying an injection mold to produce tiny
bottles, with alternating rows of bottle molds and cap molds.

As the racks move towards the front of the machine, the molds are
filled with molten pyrex and rapidly cooled. Since the size of the
molded bottles is very small, say 1/16th inch by 3/32nd inch or
smaller, the mold cooling can be fairly rapid, with little danger of
breakage. A small percentage of breakage would still be acceptable.

After the molded pieces are cooled and solidified, they are filled
with a set small amount of potassium, and the row of caps next to each
row of bottles is flipped over on top of the bottles and pressed down
to press-fit lock onto the bottles.

The variables are the size of the bottles (bullets), the thickness of
the walls of the bullets, and the amount of potassium contained
inside.

When these bullets are shot from the cold side, they will contact the
molten pyrex being applied from the hot side, and will soften and
partially melt. With the increase in temperature, the potassium inside
will expand and partially turn into gaseous state, expanding the walls
of the partially melted bullets. This will form what amounts to
bubbles inside the extrusion.

If there is too much potassium or the walls of the bullets are too
thin, the bullets will expand like balloons and explode. If there is
too little potassium or the walls are too think, there will not be
enough expansion and not enough empty space with the extrusion will be
formed. In any case, for structural panel manufacturing, absolute
precision is not required, and it would be acceptable if as many as 10
or even 20 percent of the bullets exploded, so long as the error is on
the expansion side, rather than not enough expansion.

This is but one method out of many possible approaches. As stated
above, just coating glass with potassium increases its resistance to
impact 8 times over. It should be interesting to see what effect
putting potassium inside glass will have. Potassium seems to have the
effect of plugging up the loose chemical or crystal ends in the
crystal structure of glass, making it impossible for a fracture to
originate from that bonding point.

In this example manufacturing / foaming method, as well as any other
that attempts to place potassium inside glass or pyrex, the much
heated potassium will migrate throughout the crystal structure of the
extruded panel. This should impart a much greater load bearing
capability to the panels. It should also add a very slight amount of
flexibility to the panels, greatly increasing resistance to
work-hardening and repeated stress or impact failures.

It is assumed that with any pyrex extrusion, whether solid or foamed,
that the extrusion will be coated with potassium, to increase its
strength and lifespan.

Solid pyrex will have better optical properties than foamed, where the
foamed will have less desirable optical qualities but will be far
superior in structural applications. In the example of the 7 story
tall extrusion described earlier, foamed structural pyrex would be
used in the lower weight supporting levels, and non foamed would used
in the upper solar power and hydroponics gardens / biomass fuel
generation levels. Even using foamed pyrex, the huge solar heat
storage water tanks on the upper levels would have to supported with
massive foamed pyrex internal structural pillars (produced as part of
the extrusion), because of the great weight of both the water and the
solid upper level pyrex.

The technique described here can allow for potassium to be put inside
glass, into the internal crystal structure, something which has
heretofore been impossible because of the gas temperature of potassium
versus the melting temperature of glass or pyrex. This would indicate
that other heretofore impossible additives are now possible, and some
of these may well produce large improvements in load bearing, stress
resistance, strength, weight, longevity, and other characteristics.

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Ultralightweight chambered foamed extruded structural pyrex
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There exist structural glass building blocks, known as glass privacy
brick or block, that you can buy at your local building supply center.
You have certainly seen these from time to time. Many times they are
used as windows in gasoline stations, allowing light to enter the
restrooms but no image to pass to the outside. In the movie 'Pulp
Fiction', one of the scenes shows a two or three story wall
constructed of these structural glass blocks.
These are not potassium enriched, and they are not pyrex, and
therefore not nearly as strong as potassium enriched pyrex. They are
hollow, with 3/16 inch thick walls for 4 inch block, and 5/16 for 8
inch block.

As commonly used, these blocks are mortared or cemented together.
However, they could also be welded together with lasers or torches.

A vast improvement in the extrusion process can be realized by using
something similar to these blocks, and welding them together. This can
cut the amount of material and therefore the cost of electricity to
melt the sand in half or more.

This also significantly reduces the weight of extruded structural
walls, as much as to 25 percent of what a solid wall to bear the same
load would weigh. There are also stress resistance advantages, and
fracture pattern advantages. In solid pyrex, if a powerful enough
impact were struck, a crack could form that could traverse the length
of the panel, but this is almost impossible with ultralightweight
chambered foamed extruded structural pyrex.

The main advantage is the improvement in the strength to weight ratio.
The weight of a wall could be cut by two thirds, but the thickness
would only need to increase about an extra 20 percent.


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These blocks can be manufactured on the fly as required, and then
welded together using foamed extruded pyrex as the adhesive. What
follows is one possible example of such a process.
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Imagine four standard size pool tables, arranged side by side with the
long sides parallel. This is a good example geometry.
In some cases, there would be advantages to using pyramids rather than
cubes, because of the pyramid's natural inherent strength
characteristics. Pyramid panel will weigh somewhat more than cubical
panel. This example will explain the manufacture of cubical panel. The
technique is only slightly more complicated for pyramid panel. This
example will describe the manufacture of cubical panel using three
inch cubes.

The two tables on the ends are molding tables. Both use two piece
molds, a top and a bottom half.

Table 1 will produce hollow pyrex cubes that have only five sides.

For table 2 in the center, imagine a pool table that has bumpers only
1/4 inch high, rather than the standard two inches high around the top
of the table. In other words, table 2 is a 1/4 inch deep tank (no
pockets), resting on a platform similar in size and shape to a
standard pool table.

For table 3, imagine that the top of the table is flat, and resembles
a sparsely populated bed of nails, with small 1/4 inch diameter posts
sticking up, about three inches high, about every 6.5 inches or so in
a square pattern.

Table 4 will produce the missing sixth side. These are tables 1 and 4.


The distances between and relative orientation between the four tables
is fixed.

For table 1, the bottom half of the mold will be the match to the
outside of the cube surfaces, and will contain a square grid of three
inch by three inch square depressions. This will somewhat resemble a
half of a waffle iron mold.

The top half of the table 1 mold will match the inner hollow surface
of the cubes, and will contain a square grid of cubical protrusions,
each measuring 2 and three-quarter inches square.

When mated, they will produce five sided 3 inch by 3 inch by 2 and
seven eighth inch hollow pyrex cubes with 1/8 inch thick walls.

For table 4, the bottom half will contain a grid of 1/16th inch deep 3
inch by three inch square depressions, and the top half will also
contain a grid of 1/16th inch deep 3 inch by three inch square
depressions. When mated, they will produce the sixth side of the cubes
(1/8th inch by 3 inches by 3 inches).

The top half of the table 4 mold will be a two piece mold. In the top
half of the mold will be machined a conical rather than cylindrical
entryway for the injected pyrex, with the tip of the cone pointing
downwards, and measuring very slightly less than 1/4 inch at the
bottom and somewhat larger than 1/4 inch, say 3/16 inch, at the top.


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A rack of cubes will be extruded at the same time in tables 1 and 4,
and then cooled with coolant pumped through the mold. The extrusion
technique will be used to fill the molds, with both molten and frozen
pyrex, so that the molds can be more rapidly cooled than if only
molten pyrex were used.
After cooling has solidified the pieces, the top half of table 4 will
be lifted, and moved past table 3 to rest above table 2. THis is the
reason for the conical passageway machined into the top half of the
top half of the table 4 mold. The pyrex cone that has formed will hold
the square 'lids' in the mold and keep the attached to the bottom of
the top half of the mold when it is lifted off. Otherwise, gravity
would keep the pieces in the bottom half of the table 4 mold when the
top half was lifted off.

The pieces are attached by these cones, and adhere to the bottom of
the top half of the mold as a result when the top half carries them
over to table 2.

Table 2 is the equivalent of a wave soldering tank. Wave soldering
tanks have widespread use in the manufacture of electronic circuit
boards. The shallow tank contains a thin pool of molten solder, and a
metal squeegee slides from one end of the tank to the other as the
circuit boards are immersed, which creates a wave of solder that
travels the length of the tank. This wave ensures that the entire
surface of the board is covered and exposed to the solder, where
otherwise there would be air gaps without the wave, and less than 100
percent application of the solder.

In this case, molten pyrex rather than molten solder is used, and the
pyrex is applied as a 'glue' to the entire bottom surface of the
molded sixth sides.

The mold is then rapidly lifted and moved to table 1 and dropped and
mated to the table 1 mold before the pyrex has a chance to solidify.
The table 1 mold is then cooled again.

After final solidification, the table 4 top mold lifts up again, this
time carrying the entire array of extruded, mated, six sided hollow
pyrex cubes. The mold passes table 2, and then pauses between table 2
and table 3. Remember, this mold, the top half of the table 4 mold, is
a two piece mold, with a top and a bottom half, basically flat two
steel plates, one on top of the other, with the cone passageways
machined into the top half and the mold pattern machined into the
bottom half.

When the mold pauses, the two halves slide over one another, and this
breaks off the conical tangs, causing the cubes to fall out of the
mold a short distance onto a conveyor belt.

The mold then travels to table 3, and mates with it. The posts on
table 3 slide into small guideways machined into the table 4 mold, and
into the conical passageways of the table 4 mold. This forces the
broken conical tangs of the table 4 mold, and a sweeper runs over the
top of the mold to remove the ejected tangs. The mold then moves back
to table 4, and the process is repeated.


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This manufactures the cubes, and is the first step in a three step
process.
As the cubes travel a short distance down the conveyor belt and reach
their destination, manual labor is used to pick them up and place them
into another mold. Robotics or automatic machinery could be used. If I
thought hard enough about it, I could probably design it. However, I
am not in the mood at this particular time, and manual labor would get
the job done and not cause a significant price increase. To make a
robot or an automation setup that would achieve 100 percent success at
properly filling this mold would be difficult if not impossible. Even
at 99.9999 percent accuracy, you would still need an operator to watch
for the occasional .0001 percent error.

This mold would be a two piece mold, with both halves identical. The
mold indentations would be half of a 3 inch cube, bisected parallel to
any given side. The indentations would of course be ever so slightly
larger than 3 inch by 3 inch by 1.5 inch, to allow for ease of
insertion of the cubes.

This is the basic layout of the mold. [ ] represents one cube:

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This will be the finished product that comes out of the mold:

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]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-+-[ ]-
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The + and - characters represent 1/8 inch diameter pyrex rod extruded
by the mold to cement the cubes together into a grid. In this case, we
will use a mold to create a grid that measures 1 foot (four 3 inch
thick hollow cubes wide) by 8 feet.

Now that you see the basic purpose, let's throw away that idea and go
with this one:

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In this case, the mold has the cubes placed with a distance of 1/8th
inch between the corners of the cubes, although it would be impossible
to illustrate this easily using character graphics. The mold would
connect the cubes at their corners, not their sides, with a 1/8 inch
long 1/8th inch thick extruded pyrex rod. Flipped on its side, the
panel would look like this:

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][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]

The rods that hold the array together would have to alternate height
at at alternate rows of connection corners. This is because these
arrays must be mirrored. In other words, the extrusion process is as
follows:

Three of these completed cube arrays would be placed together end to
end, using mating tangs that were injection molded by the mold that
made the array, to make a 3 inch by 1 foot by 24 foot section of
array. As the three arrays are mated they are tack welded together at
their connection points with a laser or torch, or a slight amount of
pyrex sprayed onto the mating tangs.

To start the extrusion of a 1 foot thick by 24 foot wide panel of
arbitrary length, the array manufacturing process would begin turning
out arrays, feeding them by short wide conveyor belt to the extrusion
area.

The panels are delivered alternating, flipped over, or rotated 180
degrees, so that the cubes of one array mate into the empty spaces of
the previous array. This is why the height of the connection points
has to alternate. Say the connection points at the corners of the
cubes are located at 1 inch rather than at the center (1.5 inches) of
the cube corners. For each successive cube in the array, the height
would alternate between 1 inch and 2 inches, or high low high low.

When each panel arrives, its precise location is determined by
sensors, and is automatically aligned to the correct location. The
array is then flipped up (rotated 90 degrees along the 24 foot length)
into the extrusion area by steel fingers and held in place by the
positioning tangs that were extruded by the array mold.

The machine waits for the second panel to arrive and be positioned.
Then the molten and frozen pyrex are sprayed onto the array, enough to
ensure a good 1/8th inch thickness of coverage, and then the second
(appositely oriented) panel is rotated into place. With the opposite
orientation, the cubes slide into the cubical holes in the first array
panel. The second panel is only inserted halfway into the first, so
that only 1.5 inches of the array panel is mated.

The process is then repeated over and over again. A 40 foot long
panel, 12 inches thick and 24 feet wide, can be constructed in this
fashion.

This techniques is best used in conjunction with the technique of
using potassium filled pyrex bullets (in all three stages), to
introduce potassium into the internal structure of the pyrex, in order
to impart greatly improved strength and fracture resistance
characteristics.

I have left out some of the details, like the need for half cubes
(3x3x1.5) at the outer surfaces, the breaking off of the positioning
tangs, and the coating of the exterior surfaces with 1/8 inch to 2
inches of molten pyrex (only this outer layer needs to be tinted or
combination tinted to simulate jade or marble or onyx), and the
finishing of the ends of the panels. The middle assembly step
(conveyor belt) can probably be skipped, and the cubes directly
applied to the extrusion surface from the molds they were created in,
by using that mold to also make the positioning tangs and cube
connection points and connections.


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These panels have greatly improved load-bearing to weight ratio and
impact resistance characteristics over foamed pyrex, and immensely
improved characteristics over solid pyrex.
In building construction, smaller cube sizes would be more desirable
for use in floors, and larger sizes for use in walls.

Obviously, with clear pyrex, foamed and chambered foamed pyrex do not
offer the comparatively excellent optical properties of solid pyrex.
Thin wall solid pyrex is better suited to use in solar greenhouses,
and thick chambered foamed and foamed pyrex are better suited to
load-bearing.

Rhomboids would give the greatest amount of interior air space of any
geometric shape, but using three or four sided pyramids might give
better strength in very high capacity load bearing applications.

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There are some points that are not immediately apparent on the initial
description page. I will attempt to address these potential issues
here.

First, some details of a viable first generation machine.

Vertical axle carrying 8 horizontal arms for a high speed rotary
extrusion machine. Compressed air blows pyrex dust up the center of
the hollow vertical axle and out through the eight hollow arms. An
auger or screw rotating inside each arm ensures that the dust does not
get compacted, and the centrifugal force of the rotating arms produces
the ejection pressure for the cold side nozzle at the end of each arm.

The molten pyrex flows down through the top half of the hollow
vertical axle and is routed to the hot side ejector nozzle in each of
the eight arms, and again the centrifugal force of the rotating arms
produces the ejection pressure.

With a high rate of extrusion limits are reached and a high enough
deposition rate is easily achieved to where the molten pyrex will tend
to run down the face of the extrusion surface. Blowing compressed air
up the face from nozzles located below the extrusion surface will keep
the molten pyrex suspended and prevent this. (If a high enough air
pressure were used, the molten pyrex could be blown up the face.) The
compressed air will also serve to cool the extrusion surface and
therefore achieve faster solidification of the extrusion.

If chambered pyrex is desired, the cubes can be made on demand
elsewhere, and rotated down to the extrusion surface on mechanical
racks one section at a time. These would have to be four sided
blocks, with the through pass (two open sides) oriented along the
radius of the rotating arms (pointed at the surface. This way the
ejection nozzles spray into the through pass and deposit material
inside the four sided block as well as along the outer dimension of
the block. Shortly after this adhesion will occur, and then a rack of
flat faces to mate with the cubes can be rotated down onto the surface
to seal off the ends of each block. This process is alternated to
build up the surface.

Expand this basic high speed extrusion concept to a six layer axle
carrier, so that six separate extrusion planes exist stacked on on top
of another, to be able to extrude six separate panels at once. Each
of the six planes has its own set of eight ejection nozzles.

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Say a foot or two of space between each level. Six extrusion tunnels
instead of one, stacked six high with a foot or two of space between
each one.

If sticking to the extrusion tunnel is a problem it can be solved by
using Teflon coating on the extrusion tunnel (the tunnel the panel
slides through as it being built up). If this is not enough, two
interlaced pin carriers will work. Two racks of fine pins, with one
threaded through the other, oscillating or vibrating so that one
changes height about a 64th of an inch up and down. Similar to a pin
rack mold, where you can press your hand or face into a rack of
through pins, and the force causes a nearly perfect mold of your the
face or hand on the other side of the mold.

Obviously, one end of the finished length of panel will be concave,
the other convex. The machine can be designed to make given lengths
and automatically cut off the rounded ends and sent them back to the
heat to be recycled.

With a six layer machine, structures can be extruded at what will
likely be an astonishing rate of speed. Say the panel length is
decided upon as 40 feet. The machine can be designed with 50 foot
long extrusion tunnels. After the six panels pass out of the end of
the extrusion tunnels the ends would automatically be cut off and sent
back to be melted down again.

Then the top panel would be automatically lifted by hydraulic
pressure, rotated to vertical and moved a distance to the right side.
The next top panel would rotated vertical and moved a similar distance
to the left side. The next tow panels would be unstacked and moved
side by side an automatically welded together, as would be the last
two at the bottom. If the panels are 8 feet wide, this yields a 16
foot wide by 8 foot high by 40 foot long structure which the machine
will automatically weld together after it manipulates the panels into
the proper positions with hydraulics and robotics.

These structures would be well suited to housing, greenhouses, or
solar. For housing one would think it would be better to extrude thin
tinted cover panels perhaps an inch or a half inch thick for the walls
and roof, in case at some future date a different purpose (solar or
agricultural) was desired, at which time the tinted panels could be
fairly easily removed. If the entire structure is tinted originally,
the only way to change its function from housing to solar or
agriculture (transparent glass) will be to destroy and replace the
entire structure.

I doubt that further details are needed since the robotics and
hydraulic and computer control systems to implement this machine
already exist in numerous different flavors and configurations.

I would suspect that a machine with a configuration based on this
basic design should be able to easily terraform a mile each day of
operation. Two or three miles per day would not be surprising.

Oxidation may be an issue. If it is, oxygen concentration equipment
can be used, similar to home medical oxygen concentrator equipment, to
create either an oxygen enriched atmosphere in the extrusion chamber,
or by using the nitrogen / hydrogen side of the concentrator output to
produce an oxygen deficient atmosphere.

That the molten droplet size and velocity are issues should be self
apparent, and it need only be noted that the droplets must have a
minimum mass and velocity, with the goal being to have a skin form on
the droplet as it is ejected and have the droplets explode on contact
with the surface, releasing their molten contents. If the droplet
size is too small and the nozzle velocity is incorrect, too much skin
will form and not enough molten material will be deposited. The only
significant concern here is that this places upper limits on the
possible speed of extrusion (which can also be expressed as how many
miles of extrusion per day are possible).

A single or multiple plane rotary machine can also have its place in
housing construction as described in pyrex2.htm, the only concern is
that the rounded ends must be cut off, and that there are limits to
the potential width of the panels. This can be overcome by butt joint
or other type of joint welding multiple panels together at their ends
to form a single wide panel.

If nozzle cooling is an issue, a liquid lithium or liquid sodium
cooling system can be used, routing the coolant down through the upper
half of the vertical axle. The best example of liquid metal cooling
is found in the Clinch River Liquid Metal Fast Breeder Reactor.
However, such designs are not that far advanced beyond a standard
automobile cooling system. One must have a pre-heater to liquefy the
metal, a radiator to get rid of the heat, and a pump to circulate the
liquid metal. The heat resistant characteristics of the cooling
system metals are more demanding, but usable materials do exist, as
evidenced in the fast breeder reactor.


feklar

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You realize of course, that when replying to this thread you don't
want to quote the entire original text, I hope...

Jim Buch

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feklar wrote:

> You realize of course, that when replying to this thread you don't
> want to quote the entire original text, I hope...

I would rather not quote any of it.

Jim Buch

jbuch

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You Wrote:

Let's begin with a lesser use of this machine, standard building
construction. (For example, 24 by 40 foot by 8 inch thick Pyrex
panels)

This machine allows houses and buildings to be constructed at less
than half the cost of conventional construction methods.

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Actually, the rammed earth and straw bale home builders have made these fantastic
promises as well.

The truth is that the "finishing" costs of a house account for more of the cost than
the basic structure.

As a result, the rammed earth and straw bale homes provide really only a modest
decrease in the cost of a modern home.

So, unless your pyrex power can decrease the real costs of a modern home, you should
retract the absurd common claim.

Those who really know modern home construction costs will just turn you off as yet
another "worker of material magic" who knows little about what he or she writes.

Jim Buch

feklar

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 07:58:31 -0600, jbuch <jb...@revealed.net> wrote:

>The truth is that the "finishing" costs of a house account for more of the cost than
>the basic structure.

You lack the capability to visualize.

This type of house needs no paint, needs no roof, needs no siding,
three of the more expensive finishings of a common house.

It does need wiring, plumbing, doors, windows, carpets, and cabinets,

It stands up very well to a detailed costs breakdown using any
building center's materials price list.

I seriously doubt you have looked into the price of lumber lately,
judging by your relating the frame costs to insignificance as you did.

Let's say a church wanted to build a 500 bed mission somewhere. With
the machine, the costs would be the electricity to run the machine,
the sand to dump into it, a few additives like boron, (maybe one 55
gallon drum of boron for $11). and the machine maintenence and labor
costs plus any government bullshit and what it costs to transport the
machine to and from the site.

A total of perhaps a few tens of thousands of dollars to make ten 40
foot long by 8 foot high by 16 foot wide buildings.

As for labor costs, the machine can buld these ten structures in two
days. Any other method would take many months, with a (very)
considerably larger wokforce.

I would say that this easily defeats the many millions of dollars it
would cost to build these ten structures using steel, brick, wood, and
probably even your cow pie and thatch idea.

Pay closer attention and its pretty obvious that the claim is entirely
valid.

I worked with my old man for years. He was a framing, general, and
finishing carpenter. I never made it my life's work, but my brother
folowed in his footsteps and became a journeyman capenter. But I do
have plenty of experience with the subject, so if you expect to defeat
me on some supposed lack of knowledge in this field you are pretty
much out of luck.

Visualization can be a valuable asset for you (or anyone else) to
possess, you might want to get more practice at it.

Jim Buch

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:24:03 PM3/21/03
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feklar wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 07:58:31 -0600, jbuch <jb...@revealed.net> wrote:
>
> >The truth is that the "finishing" costs of a house account for more of the cost than
> >the basic structure.
>
> You lack the capability to visualize.
>

I visualize ok. I don't fantisize as well as you do.

I have been through about six of these inventions that will
revolutionize the building industry, and none of them has worked out.

I expect things to go on as they have with high failure rates for those
who promise new ways to "revolutionize the building industry".

Jim Buch

feklar

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Mar 21, 2003, 8:53:33 PM3/21/03
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:24:03 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
wrote:

>I visualize ok. I don't fantisize as well as you do.
angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_what_the_hell_were_you_thinking.wav
angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_you_idiot.mp3

>I have been through about six of these inventions that will
>revolutionize the building industry, and none of them has worked out.

angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/jesse_ventura_slack_jawed_faggots.mp3

>I expect things to go on as they have with high failure rates for those
>who promise new ways to "revolutionize the building industry".

angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_arnold_laugh.wav
angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_you_idiot.mp3

>Jim Buch
angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_chillout_dickwad.wav
angelfire.com/empire2/ptaak/sounds/jesse_ventura_slack_jawed_faggots.mp3

toadmonkey

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Mar 21, 2003, 9:26:40 PM3/21/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 01:53:33 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote a bunch of
absolutely totally worthless bullshit....

Feklar, initially I was thinking you may have an idea there. Would it live up
to such high expectations? I doubt it. Is it a good idea? Maybe. Will I look
into it? No. Why? Ahhhh....

Mr. Buch is one of the finest professionals I see in this NG. He expresses
doubt and criticizes your idea, and you answer back INSULTING him. What does
that tell me? It tells me, feklar, you are a liar, bumbling fool, brainless
twit, and either some stupid 12-14 year old kid that likes to troll or you're a
psychotic homophobic pedophile democrat. Provided you're in America, that is.

And if you are in America, our FBI (even as idiotic as they are) WILL find you
and bring an end to terrorist swine such as yourself.

Unless you decide to apologize to Mr. Buch and this newsgroup.
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Mar 21, 2003, 11:07:15 PM3/21/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:26:40 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 01:53:33 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote a bunch of
>absolutely totally worthless bullshit....

>Mr. Buch is one of the finest professionals I see in this NG. He expresses


>doubt and criticizes your idea, and you answer back INSULTING him.

You're an idiot. I wasn't insulting him, he hasn't proven himself
beyond doubt to be a troll or an idiot yet. You on the other hand...

>And if you are in America, our FBI (even as idiotic as they are) WILL find you
>and bring an end to terrorist swine such as yourself.
>Unless you decide to apologize to Mr. Buch and this newsgroup.

I see no need to apologize for him, but I will apologize to the entire

universe on behalf of the rest of the world for its having produced
someone as dense as you.

We are really and truly sorry. We apologize.

feklar

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:22:18 PM3/21/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:26:40 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 01:53:33 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote a bunch of
>absolutely totally worthless bullshit....

>Mr. Buch is one of the finest professionals I see in this NG.

Usually when you ignore the possibility that someone may be being a
troll and correct their mistake, error, or ignorance, it is they who
would take it mean they had been personally insulted and end up having
a cow. Science is pretty much like that, any other scientists take
any new idea as a personal insult, because if it was a such a good
idea then surely they and not someone else would have thought of it.

Perhaps Mr. Buch can refer me to the web page where I can get my own
personal flunky. It ain't right, him having one and me not having any
(or at least any who can post here)

Mike Halloran

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Mar 22, 2003, 12:00:00 AM3/22/03
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I gotta learn to just stop reading at the word 'would'.

-Mike-

feklar

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Mar 22, 2003, 12:55:49 AM3/22/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:26:40 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>And if you are in America, our FBI (even as idiotic as they are) WILL find you
>and bring an end to terrorist swine such as yourself.

Just out of curiosity, where did you get the retarded idea I was a
terrorist? A terrorist says "do what I want or what I say or I will
fuck you over". I have never said that. Under your apparent
definition of terrorism, clearly George Bush is a terrorist, God is a
terrorist, Police are terrorists, Governments are terrorists, and all
parents are terrorists.

I merely stated elsewhere that it was getting to the point where I
wouldn't be able to hold my finger in the dam much longer, and if
something didn't get done to repair the dam it was going to break and
a lot of people would be screwed. Anybody has endurance limits, and
seriously, if the town you are trying to protect throws shit and
tomatoes at you it doesn't increase that endurance. It gives you an
attitude. I don't appreciate my time or the god's investments, either
one, getting wasted. I don't appreciate my daughter Athena being
locked up in the Minnesota Correctional Facility for writing bad
checks, when the reason I haven't had my economic act together was the
direct result of criminal activities on the part of the Minnesota
government. She should have had it made financially, and the worst
trouble she should have gotten into with the law should have been
underage drinking, rather than having to live in a housing project
like she did once, and having to try to write bad checks just so her
kids could eat. I don't appreciate my mother having to suffer the low
standard of living and boredom and medical problems she has to as a
result of the loss that was caused to me either. These are two of
maybe 1o00 things that piss me off about Minnesota's lack of respect
for the law, the Constitution, their own people and country, and
myself and my family.

Yet not ever have I said "I am tired of your faggot bullshit: give me
what I demand or I will personally fuck you over good". In fact if
you read the postings elsewhere it is obvious I have tried to prevent
terrorism on the part of others rather than try to cause it. I admit
I have threatened to reincarnate deserving lame asses, and I admit
that I plan on carrying out that threat, if the lamerZ don't
appreciate it well suffer, bitch, I say. If that is what you are
referring to, you can't expect either me or the gods to be crapped all
over and then say "hey that was really excellent, now let us take
turns sucking your dick, and after that you can fuck us over, flush
vast quantities of our assets down the toilet, irritate us, and make
our people suffer some more".


feklar

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Mar 22, 2003, 3:07:45 AM3/22/03
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You might have to understand the economics of large scale terraforming
before you can appreciate how the machine can come to be used.

Let's take the example of farmers in Iowa. A single farmer cannot
possibly come up with enough money to buy a machine. Many farmers
will have to form a conglomerate in order to terraform their
properties.

Then there is a electricity cost, which is considerable. Even a
medium sized conglomerate could have trouble producing the large sums
of money to pay for these considerable electricity costs.

This is overcome by the conglomerate going down south into Texas or
Arizona, buying a small tract of land, and terraforming that land
first, before using the machine in Iowa. The entire area gets
terraformed into solar greenhouses, and the conglomerate begins
selling electricity into the power grid.

The concepts of the solar power generation angles have been proven by
research at Solar Power Research Institute, the National Bureau of
Standards, and Sandia National Laboratories. Reflectors are used to
heat up a solar heat storage mass inside a triple insulated pyrex
greenhouse.

It might be obvious how these reflectors can be constructed via the
same machine that makes the greenhouses. The ends of the panels are
concave and convex. Simply use the machine to make thin sections of
arc, one after another, say an inch or two or three thick, take them
out of the extrusion tunnel as soon as they are built up to the
required thickness, polish them and stack them end to end and weld
them together, polish the weld seams out and lightly silver or chrome
the faces. This can all be done in a highly automatic manner with
little human intervention or labor.

The heat mass boils water, the steam turns electrical turbines and
generators. These can be made partly of pyrex to save costs, the
bodies for example can be cast, as can the spindles for the
generators. The only metal would be the copper windings and iron
ferrite cores and armature plates.

A federal law really needs to be passed regarding any pyrex solar
construction. Most people would choose the cheaper alternative and
not build 24 hour a day solar generation capability into their solar
greenhouse setups, but a law needs to be passed requiring that whether
or not the owner chooses to generate solar power 24 hours a day or
not, they must build a minimum amount of oxygen and hydrogen storage
tanks into the basement level of their greenhouses for future
upgrading to 24 hour a day operation. Then at some point in the
future if and when (and there likely will be) a greater national
demand for electricity, the facilities will already exists and only
need the electrolysis equipment installed to separate water into
oxygen and hydrogen for burning at night. The storage tanks will
already exists. It is likely that in the future oxygen and hydrogen
gas pipelines will be built to replace long distance electrical power
transmission lines, since there is a considerable wire resistance loss
in these lines over such long distances, and there is no loss with
shipping the gases. When this approach gets taken a great demand will
appear for solar generated oxygen and hydrogen.

To return, after the conglomerate is producing enough power to make
the payments on the machine, run the machine, and pay for the labor
and other costs, the conglomerate moves back to Iowa and starts
upgrading it's members properties, using the income from the solar
generation, and buying back some of the power for use by the machine.
Probably some sort of lottery arrangement and doing a portion of each
property, one after another, then going back and doing another
percentage, one property after another, and repeating until all the
desired properties' areas have been terraformed.

This is something those farmers can now only dream about. Two crops
per year instead of one. No topsoil erosion. One hundred to one
thousandth the amount of fertilizer to do the same job. No
insecticides. No possibility of hail damage, possibility of storm
damage a thousandth of what it had been (only a direct hit from an F-4
or F-5 tornado, and then only near the core of the tornado, and the
damage is repairable. Instead of the entire crop, maybe 20 percent of
it) Selective introduction of insects, denial of entry to undesirable
insects, bacteria, mold, corn rot, etc... If an infection or
intrusion does occur, it is limited to one or two greenhouses, the
other 198 or 498 remain unaffected. The affected greenhouses are
microwave sterilized and restarted. Greatly reduced equipment costs.
Greatly reduced operating costs. Perfect growing conditions. Precise
control over plant food, water, climate, humidity, and temperature.
Expanded range of possible crop types. I could double this list of
advantages but the point has been made.

Obviously, the Federal government has to step in at some point and
implement something they are actually pretty good at implementing,
production controls. This is old news to farmers, it simply means
there can be more farmers if controls are used, and fewer farmers if
they are not. A farmer share of the profit on a box of cereal is 2
cents, a half a cent on a loaf of bread. If controls are imposed,
less gets grown and the price of the product goes up. The controls
can actually let the farmers make more money than they currently make
without destroying any other part of the economy. If the farmers
make twice as much money, the cost of a loaf of bread increases by one
cent, and a box of cereal goes up 2 cents.

Look at the long term effects. This machine will eliminate almost all
food crop production in California. THe worthless wastelands of
Kansas and Oklahoma will be terraformed to grow cucumbers, cabbages,
carrots, lettuce, strawberries and the like. California will
terraform as well, but they will grow eucalyptus and sugar cane, or
generate solar power, or both ag and solar on the same land.

In Minnesota, corn based ethanol must be subsidized 10 to 30 cents per
gallon by the State, and the resulting gasohol is almost (but not
quite) an effective alternative to straight gasoline. If it were
profitable and effective, it would need no subsidy. But compare this
to California, where three crops a year of eucalyptus can be grown.
This crop contains 30 times the energy content of corn, and since
three crops per year can be grown at the latitude of California this
means that 90 times the annual energy content of Minnesota's annual
corn crop can be produced there. The resulting biomass product will
no doubt be natural gas rather than ethanol, but that is still 90
times the total energy content in the resulting end fuel product. If
ethanol is almost but not quite profitable in Minnesota, what does
that say to the economics of growing something with 90 times the
energy content?

Obviously, there are wide sweeping ramifications of this new approach.

However it can be proven that more jobs will be destroyed than
created, and the new jobs will be higher quality jobs. It will put
many roofers and carpenters out of work on the one hand, but on the
other, if people are paying around half what they used to for a house,
what will they want to do with all that extra money. Probably go to
Minnesota for the camping and fishing trips they can now afford,
staying at the new resort owned by the ex-roofer. They will want to
buy the $3500.00 solid oak entertainment center it took a skilled
carpenter three weeks to build, not the worthless $99 particle board
piece of junk from Wal-Mart they have to buy because they cannot
afford any better. The carpenter's standard of living is greatly
improved. He does less work in better conditions and makes at least
as much money, and you can ask any roofer whether they would want to
roof or run a fishing resort, given the choice.

feklar

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Mar 22, 2003, 3:23:13 AM3/22/03
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The real strength of the United States, other than a basic surplus
rather than deficiency of spiritual respect and righteousness, has
always been the ability of its people to take any new technology and
rapidly implement it on a vast and immesne scale, making all other
countries' efforts pale to palsy insignificance in comparison. If you
don't realize this, you cannot possibly be an American.

There is no reason to suspect that this has some how magically
changed. Even with some of the assholes we have had to deal with
lately, the first part is still true, and regarding a few small minded
people who lack the capability to visualize, they too are still only
the minority; they always have been.

toadmonkey

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Mar 22, 2003, 7:41:28 AM3/22/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:55:49 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:
>
-snip-

>Just out of curiosity, where did you get the retarded idea I was a
>terrorist? A terrorist says "do what I want or what I say or I will
>fuck you over". I have never said that. Under your apparent
>definition of terrorism, clearly George Bush is a terrorist, God is a
>terrorist, Police are terrorists, Governments are terrorists, and all
>parents are terrorists.
Just because.

-snip-


>I don't appreciate my time or the god's investments, either
>one, getting wasted.

Then why, may I ask, do you waste your ever so precious time, in the
sci.engr.metallurgy NG? IIRC, this is the wrong NG to begin with.

-snip-


>I don't appreciate my daughter Athena being
>locked up in the Minnesota Correctional Facility for writing bad
>checks, when the reason I haven't had my economic act together was the
>direct result of criminal activities on the part of the Minnesota
>government. She should have had it made financially, and the worst
>trouble she should have gotten into with the law should have been
>underage drinking, rather than having to live in a housing project
>like she did once, and having to try to write bad checks just so her
>kids could eat. I don't appreciate my mother having to suffer the low
>standard of living and boredom and medical problems she has to as a
>result of the loss that was caused to me either. These are two of
>maybe 1o00 things that piss me off about Minnesota's lack of respect
>for the law, the Constitution, their own people and country, and
>myself and my family.

Gee, thank you for the information. Apples don't fall far from the trees, you
know.

-snip-


>Yet not ever have I said "I am tired of your faggot bullshit: give me
>what I demand or I will personally fuck you over good". In fact if
>you read the postings elsewhere it is obvious I have tried to prevent
>terrorism on the part of others rather than try to cause it. I admit
>I have threatened to reincarnate deserving lame asses, and I admit
>that I plan on carrying out that threat, if the lamerZ don't
>appreciate it well suffer, bitch, I say. If that is what you are
>referring to, you can't expect either me or the gods to be crapped all
>over and then say "hey that was really excellent, now let us take
>turns sucking your dick, and after that you can fuck us over, flush
>vast quantities of our assets down the toilet, irritate us, and make
>our people suffer some more".

Tell you what, why don't we, me and you, meet somewhere and see if you're man
enough to follow through with that threat? You man enough for that? You call
me a faggot. Interesting. I have always known a faggot to be a small piece of
wood. If you mean a homosexual faggot, that shows you're such a quaint little
bigot. Say, I'm part Anglo and part Native American. Are you gonna make
comments on that? That would seem normal for you, from what I've seen of you.
Guess then you'd be a quaint little racist too, wouldn't you?

Buch criticized you, and you should have expected it. He's a professional, and
you should expect this from most anyone that is a professional in most any
industry. It's not prove that it doesn't work, but prove that it does. Don't
like it, too bad.

Go get yourself a shrink. You need one. I have no idea who this Athena chic
is, and I don't care to either. I have no idea why you bring her into this
discussion. Same with your old lady. You involve personal family issues in a
public debate, and then you resort to racist/bigoted comments and eventually
making rude sexual innuendos.

Get a life. You're either a moron, a mental case or some dumb 12 year old that
doesn't get any attention from his/her parents.

feklar

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Mar 22, 2003, 12:31:39 PM3/22/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:41:28 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>Just because.

toadmonkey is obviously a defective AI program written from a hacked
version of clips by a bored 14 year old.

Just in case you actually exist, I gave my address elsewhere asshole.
I might have used fek...@mykswomail.com ... you would be the one who
got surprised chump.


Jim Buch

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Mar 22, 2003, 4:59:48 PM3/22/03
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feklar wrote:
>
> You might have to understand the economics of large scale terraforming
> before you can appreciate how the machine can come to be used.
>

Just how much large scale terraforming have you done?

Jim Buch

Jim Buch

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:07:21 PM3/22/03
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feklar wrote:
>
> You might have to understand the economics of large scale terraforming
> before you can appreciate how the machine can come to be used.
>

Of course, I finally figured out what large scale terraforming you had
done that gave you the experience.

I believe it was your near record pile of BS about changing the way the
construction industry will respond to your invention.

If we allow BS terraforming, then you do have a degree of repectability
that should be recognized.

You also have remarkable wind power.

It will serve you well, if you mature.

Jim Buch

feklar

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:52:28 PM3/22/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:59:48 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
wrote:

>Just how much large scale terraforming have you done?
>
>Jim Buch

Depends on what kind you mean.

Jim Buch

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Mar 23, 2003, 12:12:18 AM3/23/03
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How well did your boasting in mn.politics go over? Especially the part
about posting your stuff here.

You seem capable of calling everybody names.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 7:36:40 AM3/23/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 23:12:18 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
wrote:

>feklar wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:59:48 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Just how much large scale terraforming have you done?
>> >
>> >Jim Buch
>>
>> Depends on what kind you mean.
>
>How well did your boasting in mn.politics go over? Especially the part
>about posting your stuff here.
>
>You seem capable of calling everybody names.

I am more concerned as to how the printouts of all of this will be
received.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 7:44:18 AM3/23/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 23:12:18 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
wrote:

>A slew of moronic bullshit

If USENET, or at least this version of it, isn't proof of a serious
foreign problem in US government intelligence, I don't know what could
be.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 8:09:43 AM3/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:06:58 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:

I realize you are somewhat short on brain cells, but even a retarded
chimpanzee only takes about three minutes to realize what I invented
works, and what the potential is.

However, with your deficiency it wouldn't surprise me if you had
memory problems so let me refresh your memory: search google.com for
"Weedhopper", from 10 months ago. What I have been posting here is
merely a repeat of what I posted then asshole.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 8:06:58 AM3/23/03
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The records of all of this show an undeniable pattern of censorship.

Whoever is doing it obviously has no problem taking a giant crap all
over one of the greatest assets possessed by the United States.

Whoever is doing it obviously has no problem taking actions that
endanger the interests of the Unted States if numerous ways.

There are only two different types of maggots who would do this:
foreigners trying to fuck over the United States, or devil worshippers
trying to fuck over whoever happens to be convenient.

Once the OSBI wakes up to this, you assholes best hope your influence
in the FBI and DIS is truly considerable,

Jim Buch

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Mar 23, 2003, 8:33:38 AM3/23/03
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So, you are one of those paranoid types as well as your other fine
qualities.

Jim Buch

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Mar 23, 2003, 8:38:31 AM3/23/03
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feklar wrote:
>
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 23:12:18 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
> wrote:
>
> >feklar wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:59:48 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Just how much large scale terraforming have you done?
> >> >
> >> >Jim Buch
> >>
> >> Depends on what kind you mean.
> >
> >How well did your boasting in mn.politics go over? Especially the part
> >about posting your stuff here.
> >
> >You seem capable of calling everybody names.
>
> I am more concerned as to how the printouts of all of this will be
> received.

Headline:

"Demented Pyrex Earth Terraformer Entombs 11 at a McDonalds"

Is this your concern?

Jim Buch

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Mar 23, 2003, 9:04:10 AM3/23/03
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feklar wrote:
\
> The housing that can be constructed lasts 100,000 years or more, is
> hurricane-proof, flood-proof, fireproof, and tornado-resistant. As a
> result, immense amounts of destruction and human pain and suffering
> are prevented.
>
>
>
> I invented a Pyrex extrusion technique that will allow large Pyrex
> panels to be extruded.
>

over 70 years ago, Thomas Edison "invented" concrete houses. Now viewed
as one of his "Oddities".

flyingmoose.org/truthfic/edison.htm

_gallery/dp025-1848-edison-concrete-houses.htm

americanhistory.si.edu/edison/ed_d13.htm

www.miconcrete.org/page.cfm/124/

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 2:40:07 PM3/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:04:10 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
wrote:

>over 70 years ago, Thomas Edison "invented" concrete houses. Now viewed


>as one of his "Oddities".

Comparing me to Edison now? Finally, some deserved respect.

We note that most house basements are now constructed of concrete, and
the vast majority of commercial buildings ar enow constructed of
concrete. Concrete filled and coated hollow plastic brick is now
coming into widespread practice to build tornado resistant housing.
(Note that the basic concept of pyrex is not that far removed from
this, but is far less expensive, especially in terms of not being
labor-intensive... brick laying, even plastic brick laying, is
expensive).

There are numerous reasons why concrete is unsuitable for homes but is
acceptable for commercial buildings. Being more expensive to finish
(and more expensive in general) ranks highly among the reasons. A
pyrex house will be a lot cheaper than concrete, more tornado
resistant that concrete, and needs no exterior finish: it comes with
the finish built-in.

Of course, you would want to paint, panel, or carpet the interior
walls, otherwise people will start buying video cameras that can see
right thorugh your tinted walls so they can start selling videos of
you and your wife on the internet.

feklar

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 07:33:38 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
wrote:

>feklar wrote:


>>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:44:18 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:
>>
>> >If USENET, or at least this version of it, isn't proof of a serious
>> >foreign problem in US government intelligence, I don't know what could
>> >be.
>>
>> The records of all of this show an undeniable pattern of censorship.

>So, you are one of those paranoid types as well as your other fine
>qualities.

Strange how no one from Philips Petroleum has yet contacted me after I
sent them the following message via their web page e-mail submission
form, especially considering how they were so impressed with my
talents in the past that they wrote me a personal letter of
recommendation. And I am right here in Oklahoma, same as Phillips, so
you would think getting ahold of me wouldn't be too difficult...


Here is the copy of the e-mail submission confirmation page from
Conoco/Phillips web site sent 1/31/03:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for your interest in ConocoPhillips.

Name: R. Nelson
Phone: 580 248 5801
E-Mail: fek...@mykswomail.com
Mailing Address: 2301 SW Sheridan Rd Lawton, OK 73501
Fax number:
Comments/
Questions: I am an inventor. Companies have utilized my inventions in
the past, and your own W. Delamr Johnson wrote me a personal letter of
recommendation on Phillips letterhead in 1986. I have invented three
new technologies over the last four years, and two of them can
directly impact your corporation, in a very respectable manner. One is
a method of cutting the cost of land based gas and oil production by
50 percent. The other allows 80 undersea oil rigs to be constructed
for the 20 billion dollars it currently cost to build one offshor
surface oil rig. The third invention may or may not lie along
ConocoPhillips immediate interests, but it will eventually have a
large impact: it is actually far more valuable than the other two. I
am willing to give this technology to ConocoPhillips, and only ask a
personal favor in return, namely assistance in dealing with PEMEX and
the Mexican government. This assitance can prevent a the potential for
a vast amount of damage to the USA from occurring. I have undeniable
and absolute proof of inventorship for the first and the third
technology, but not for the new type of undersea oil rig. I would be
willing to participate in your efforts to use this proof to obtain
patents, and it is possible you may be able to create an acceptable
proof of inventorship for the second one. The new type of oil rig
could end oil imports from the Middle East. It would be better to have
a representative show up at my location to talk about this, or failing
that, give me a phone call. The Oklahoma Governor's office knows about
the first and third technologies, and may have already approached you
regarding these.
-----------------------------------------------------------
end

(Obviously, the third invention is the pyrex machine)

feklar

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Of course, this wouldn't be the first time for that.

I have more than one two year old burned CD (and it's really hard to
alter dates on a 700 megabyte CD rom, especially one that contains
thousands of e-mail message copies and hundreds of ZIP files)
that contains copies of my e-mail records.

Like the last time I tried to contact W. Delmar Johnson at Phillips
66. I got ahold of him, and we sent some e-mails back and forth,
shooting the bull and bullshitting about old times. Then I bring up
having figured out how to cut the cost of pumping oil, and all of a
sudden I never hear from him again. I resent the third e-mail three
or four times, but never heard from him again. This was the same guy
who wrote me the letter of recommendation.

The records also show a copy of the web site I found that contained
hundreds of e-mail addresses of attendees of a huge medical research
conference, ranging from CDC and NIH researchers to hundreds of county
and state health care workers. Found the site by accident, about a
week after the conference had ended. I harvested the e-mail addresses
and sent a copy of the silver poisoning documentation to about 300 of
them. 2 1/2 or three months later, I had received no reply from any
of them, then I was accused of trying to hack my ISP (which was total
bullshit) and my internet was cut off.

These are two of the more prominent examples of many to be found in
those records. I have similar records that show this same type of
pattern from Jan. 2001 to June 2002 as prot...@swbell.net

As far as the issue of patriotism is concerned, it may prove
interesting to see just how many oil wells have been upgraded.
Troublemaking foreign asshole's protestations of only being retards
who were too moronic to follow such an "advanced concept" as the oil
pump improvement are a little too transparent: it isn't that advanced
a concept, and if it was nothing then why was the e-mail to W. Delmar
Johnson censored?

If it were merely criminal maggots trying to steal, then surely
respectable numbers of oil wells would have been upgraded over the
last four years. A list of at least 500 would be presented, so that
the OSBI or Texas Rangers or DIS or FBI could pick two at random to
inspect. (Yea like the FBI is to be trusted)

The logic is especially valid considering the troubles in the Middle
east over the last three years: That inventoin decreases oil imports
from the MIddle East, considerably if widely implemented.

It pays for itself in 100 days, and cuts the cost of pumping crude oil
on land in half, or doubles production at no extra production cost. I
did not come up with the metal-free steam system until about a year
and a half ago, but the 100 day return on investment would still have
been true four years ago using an off the shelf cast iron or steel
steam system.

feklar

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Like you haven't seen this before ver the last 2 years:

begin oilpump1.htm:
------------------------------------------------------
How to Reduce Oil Pumping costs by 75 to 80 percent, and make
cost-effective advanced oil recovery technique of steam injection
possible
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Modified 9/11/2001: Extensive additions: added pump construction
details, computer control system details, and modified the storage
construction details.
Modified 11/7/2001: Added basic non-metal boiler construction
description and a note regarding use in submersible pumps.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Currently, oil wells use one of three methods of pumping crude oil.
These are electric, natural gas, and oil fueled pumps which are fueled
directly from the well. (This ignores advanced recovery techniques
such as brine pumping, but the improvement works for those techniques
as well). The latter method is not in widespread use because of
government pollution regulations, fuel inefficiency, and high
maintenance costs and requirements.
The modification is an upgrade to use a low cost computer controlled
steam powered pump, powered by electricity or natural gas or other
means, augmented with passive solar power.

The concept of passive solar power is a proven technology, gone into
in vast detail in the book "Passive Solar Design". This invention is
not patentable, because it is based on a steam pump, the patent on
which expired more than a century ago, and passive solar research done
by the U.S. Department of Energy and Solar Energy Research Institute,
which falls into the public domain is is therefore not patentable.
That this is so is a benefit, not a detriment.

Let's say that all current oil well pumps were converted to steam
pumps, where natural gas or electricity heated water to steam to drive
the pump. This would actually be a slight to moderate improvement over
existing methods, in and of itself, in terms of efficiency, because
the Stirling cycle engine (steam engine / steam pump) is the most
efficient means known to convert heat into mechanical energy.

But this small efficiency improvement is not the heart of the proposed
modification.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The basic concept of the improvement is to use fuel or electricity to
raise solar heated water temperature at 160 to 200 degrees up to 212
degrees (the temperature of steam) or more, instead of using it to
heat water from 70 to 100 degrees to 212 degrees.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

After the steam drives the pump, the heat of the steam is converted
into mechanical energy, and the temperature of the steam falls from
212 degrees to 80 to 100 degrees in the process.

Normally, to just use fuel to bring the water temperature back to
boiling is to raise the water temperature from 90 degrees back to 212
degrees, a temperature increase requirement of 122 degrees.

This improvement uses a passive solar heat generation and storage
layout to use solar heat to raise the water temperature from the 90
degree condenser temperature up to 180 degrees. Then, fuel or
electricity only needs to be used to raise the temperature from 180 to
212 degrees, a temperature increase requirement of only 32 degrees.

Do the math: use fuel to increase water temperature 32 degrees, or use
fuel to increase the water temperature 122 degrees. This works out to
a savings of about 1/4 as much energy as it would take to raise the
water temperature 122 degrees. At the lower latitudes of Texas,
Oklahoma, and California, it works out closer to 1/5 as much energy.

I've been around in Texas and Oklahoma, and I never witnessed any
passive solar installations in operation. I rode a bicycle through the
Oklahoma countryside over 50 miles, saw hundreds of oil pumps, but no
solar.

The solar and steam technologies are proven, but have never been
applied to this type of application. It gives US domestic oil
producers a competitive advantage, because it makes transportation
costs more of an issue in the total price of fuel. Arabs have to ship
crude oil thousands of miles, domestic producers only hundreds of
miles.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Boiler construction:
Without going into too many details, a boiler can be constructed that
contains no exposed metal for about $300 for a simple efficiency
improvement setup, or $1500 for a high capacity boiler for both pump
and steam injection steam supplies.

The boiler would be made of fairly thick rebar reinforced concrete.
Two hanging rack supports would be cast into the concrete by placing
them into the rebar array before the concrete is poured. After the
concrete cures, the interior of the concrete tank is sprayed with
fiberglass.

The rack would be made of two high strength steel bars. The bars would
be placed inside high temperature plastic pipe, and the empty space
filled with sand to allow for heat expansion and contraction. The
plastic pipe simply insulates the steel from contact with the water.

This rack, consisting of these two support bars and possibly linked
with plastic encased crossmembers, would hold an array of electric
heating elements.

The construction of the heating elements is similar to the support
racks. Electric heating filament, similar to those found in certain
electric heaters and toasters, are run inside of high temperature
black pigmented plastic pipes, and black tar sand is used to fill the
empty space inside the pipes. The resistance and thickness of the
filaments are designed to produce a working temperature range of 250
to 300 degrees Fahrenheit.

The heating elements are secured at the ends with springs which are
connected to heat resistant anchors at the ends of the pipe.
Components of these types that can withstand the operating temperature
are readily available. These pipes are sealed at the ends, and the
insulted wire for the power supply are attached with fused multiply
flanged seals.

The heating element pipes are then hung from the support racks. At the
bottom level of the tank, the heating pipes are arranged in triads.
This way, the inlet water from the solar preheat tanks can be routed
into the tank through an inlet pipe, and this inlet pipe can be
threaded between the triads, so that there is maximum heat
concentration directly incident upon the inlet water before it exits
the inlet pipe and enters the tank. After the pipe passes between a
triad of heating pipe, the pipe is routed back 180 degrees to flow
back through the next triad in the tank bottom.

The water inlet and the steam outlets pass through a triple flanged
seal in the tank wall. The seals are chosen for a greater heat
expansion coefficient than the pipe or the concrete, coated with high
temperature grease, and then placed onto the rebar array before the
concrete is poured. The inlet and outlet pipes and the support pipes
should be grooved, and the seals should be directly cast onto the
pipes.

During operation the pressure will flatten the flanges away from the
pressure, forcing the grease to seal any small deficiencies in the
contact between the concrete and the seal. This pressure against the
other side of the flange (closer to the exterior of the tank) will
keep the grease from being forced out of the seal. Three flanges
means that there will be no possibility of loss of steam pressure
through these seals.

The top of the tank is formed out of very thick rebar reinforced
concrete coated with fiberglass. A series of male / female concentric
mating grooves between the tank lid and the top of the side of the
tank are grooved into the lid and the top of the sides of the tank. A
flexible rubber seal coated with high temperature grease between the
mating surfaces will prevent any loss of pressure through the seal,
and the weight of the lid should be enough to contain the pressure if
the lid is made thick and heavy enough.

This type of design provides additional failsafe against valve or
computer control failure, because if the pressure ever rises very far
above design specifications, the excess pressure will raise the let
and the excess pressure will safely escape. The lid would be lifted
slightly, not blown off, and the excess pressure would equalize
itself.

Details beyond this need not be given regarding the boiler
construction past this basic concept. It is widely known that
appropriate sealing materials exist, and that this type of
construction can easily withstand the steam pressure.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pump construction:
I should be able to build a computer controlled steam pump for a
medium sized capacity oil well for less than $1000. For the largest
wells, this cost should not rise to more than $1500. This would
include the steam pump, the computer controls, and all the valves,
sensors, and wiring.

The pump body would be sand casted from high temperature resin or
plastic, as would the pistons, valves, and rods. Steel corrodes, and
requires the use of anti-corrosion agents and a complicated water
quality and chemical composition monitoring system, where this
approach needs no such additives.

My approach would be to find the total horsepower requirement for the
pump, calculate the required piston diameter and stroke, then go to
the catalog and look up teflon piston rings for the next largest size
piston, and design the piston to use this ring. The same procedure
would be followed for the teflon valve seals, using steam flow
requirements for determining the valve sizes.

The rest of the pump design is rather obvious, except that the body
would be designed around the piston diameter, and cast in two halves,
one having a male boss extruded around the perimeter of the mating
surface, and the other half would have a female channel, so a sealing
gasket can be placed into the mating channel and the two halves can be
mated together and then clamped down to form an airtight seal.

High capacity submersible oil pumps can be upgraded with the
efficiency improvement by raising the pump, removing the power drive
and replacing it with a cable drive, and then driving the pump from
the surface via the drive cable.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If by some bizarre chance the Texas or Oklahoma governments would be
moronic enough to want to screw themselves economically and require a
boiler license to operate the steam pump, there are two solutions. One
would be to give the computer program the capability to pass the steam
boiler license test. The other would be to simply bulldoze out a
trench, line it with cinder block, and bury the steam pump, so even if
it did blow up, it would be impossible for anyone to be injured or
killed in the blast.
If I, or someone else who was actually competent, wrote the control
program and designed the sensor and control systems, the device could
be made entirely fail-safe. My accomplishment with the railroad safety
invention, another computer controlled fail-safe system, proves that
this can be achieved. There has not been a single instance of a head
on train collision in the United States since 1987, when the railroads
installed the system. I did not write that control program, or it
would have also prevented rear end collisions. However, I have the
assembly, C, and C++ programming experience and background to be
capable of writing either it, or the control program for the steam
pump.

A number of different companies offer sensors and fluid / steam
control valves that are certified for use in nuclear power plants at a
very reasonable price.

I would install a system comparable to that of the space shuttle
control computer bank, except that my control system would only use
three computers rather than five, since human life would never be put
at risk. A simple safety interlock on the entryway into the
underground pump that prevents entry if the steam pressure exceeds a
given value, and redundant pressure sensors and indicators that can be
examined before entry, combined with posted warnings and instructions,
can easily avoid any possibility of this danger.

The three computer boards (currently as of this writing) would be off
the shelf Pentium motherboards, with a minimum amount of RAM, running
a control program in either freeDOS or pure assembly language. These
three boards can currently be obtained in the proper configuration for
less than $150, or less than $100 when bought in quantities of 50 or
more. This price usually holds true for off the shelf low end or
borderline obsolete motherboard / CPU combo boards.

The actual control program is not complicated, and could be written in
30 days. All the program has to do is read the serial ports for the
sensor values and make adjustments to the control valves and servos in
response. The valves and sensors would take the form of three
independent systems, each capable of overriding the others in order to
lower boiler temperature or control steam pressure or distribution
pathways. Each would monitor the democratic votes cast by the other
two, and if an error condition arises in one of the boards, the other
two will reinitialize and reboot the malfunctioning unit. Error logs
would be kept, and upon recognition of the existence of a failure
pattern, the computer would call via telephone or wireless for human
assistance, to repair the faulty unit. If the computers failed to
check in once (or more) a day with the reporting station, it would
automatically be recognized as an error condition and a maintenance
check would be made, fist via remote means, then physically if
required.

The computer control systems will have the capacity to completely
disable the steam system. Each board sends out control signals to
control valves and servos that automatically shut down the boiler and
release the pressure if the correct encoding of signals is not
received on a regular basis.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note: the pyrex extrusion machine supersedes the heat storage method
described below, although the one described below would work, and be
cost effective. Pyrex water storage tanks would be even more cost
effective.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Let's say we are in Texas. The sun heats stored water to an annual
average (including after dark heat storage) of 180 degrees at the
latitude of Texas. Of course, one needs to have a sufficient number of
black plastic 55 gallon drums or suitable substitute heat storage
medium materials to adequately meet the supply and storage
requirements, so that at night in winter, the heat will not fall below
150 to 160 degrees by the time the sun rises again.
That this can be done is more than obvious. Read the book "Passive
Solar Design". There is no theory there, only known and proven fact.
Don't be frightened off by the sheer size of this book. The entire
second half is comprised of solar tables for each latitude and
longitude, and of the first half, the book is printed in large type,
and contains vast numbers of diagrams and photographs, many of which
are full page or two page. The concepts presented in this book are
neither complicated or technical: it was written for the layman.

One uses the solar constant tables form that book, and with their
calculated water flow requirements for the pump's capacity in CFM,
calculates the number of hot water storage 55 gallon drums required.

Then one bulldozes out an appropriately sized area, creating a 5 foot
high hill that runs east and west. The south half of the hill is then
bulldozed out, and styrofoam panels installed on the back (south
facing, east-west running) wall and floor. Then one installs the 55
gallon plastic drums and plastic pipe to connect them.

Then one builds a sparse frame out of wood or steel or aluminum, and
covers the entire area with a clear sheet plastic greenhouse. One
installs one more sheet plastic greenhouse around the first one,
leaving a little air space between the two, and then installs a hard
plastic or glass greenhouse around that, to create a triple insulated
greenhouse.

A cheaper method would be to use two layers of clear plastic sheeting
two form the inner two levels of greenhouse, and use a wall
constructed of standard glass privacy brick as the outer layer.
Because this type of glass has lesser optical qualities, slightly more
total surface area would be required, say perhaps an additional 5 to
10 storage drums, but this would be more than offset by the cost
savings of using the privacy block, and the privacy clock is much more
resistant to passing storms and hail.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For a steam pump that has a 1000 gallon per hour pumping capacity, the
pump itself would cost about $2000. The greenhouse and 55 gallon drums
would cost about $6000 (less than half of this if the well owner does
the construction).
A fail-safe computer monitoring system for the steam pump, that has
the capacity to regulate the system and call for human assistance when
required, about $200 to $5000, depending on where one acquires it. A
high school senior can build that for $200. IBM would likely want
$5000.

Say the well owner does their own construction. This amounts to a
total of about $5000 for the entire installation, assuming that the
Oklahoma or Texas petroleum organizations have published construction
plans and written the computer control program.

This would easily pay for itself in a single year. Notice, that's 1000
gallons per hour, not 1000 gallons per day.

So, unless the Arabs have taken over all the banks, there is
absolutely no problem obtaining the financing to reopen a closed down
oil well. The vast majority of US oil wells that have closed (by the
thousands) have closed simply because it costs more to pump the oil
than the oil can be sold for. Costing $40 to pump $31.50 worth of oil
is a recent example that caused operating oil wells to be shut down.
(from NBC News).

Do the math above. Instead of $40, it would cost $8 to $10 to pump
that 31.50 worth of oil, after this improvement is installed.

In a worst case scenario, where Texas saw cloud cover for 365 out of
365 days in a given year, with it raining 30 percent of the time, the
average water temperature would never fall below 140 degrees, which
means that no profit was being made at all the first year, because all
the profit had gone to pay the financing on the modification.

After another six months to a year of this total cloud cover, the
financing would have been paid, and the well would begin turning a
profit.

There is no doubt of this. The technology involved is proven, but no
one seems to have noticed its potential in the field of pumping oil
until now.

There are some other more sophisticated modifications that apply, such
as using a large amount of water as heat storage, and using a much
smaller amount of carbon tetrachloride (CT) as the working steam fluid
instead of water. Except in midsummer at very low latitudes, the
absorbed solar heat cannot boil water, which boils at 100 degrees C.

However, CT (a common non-toxic dry cleaning chemical) boils at 79
degrees C. The heat stored in the water can easily boil CT, and keep
it boiling from two to six hours past sundown, given enough water
mass. This can obviate the need for fuel entirely, or further reduce
its use by another 1/4 to 1/5 over the initial 1/4 to /15 reduction,
making the total fuel savings 1/8 to 1/10 what had originally been
required.

Many oil well owners might easily choose just to have the pump shut
down for two to 6 hours a night, and never spend a single dime on
fuel, using pure passive solar power to pump the oil. The CT method
allows for this: straight water does not.

There is no better choice for an alternate working fluid, by the way.
I researched every chemical known to man, going through each and every
one, reading the Merck Chemical Manual (the chemist's bible) from
cover to cover, examining thousands of chemicals, looking for the best
alternative to water. Although some chemicals had appreciably lower
boiling points, these were either toxic, explosive when exposed to
water or air, or degenerated / decomposed over time. (See: 1986
geothermal power plant design) CT is also inexpensive in the small
quantities required.

feklar

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Like you haven't seen this before over the last 4 1/2 years:

The original version from the spiritual servitude web page
http://rjnpages.tripod.com/warning.htm

begin oilpump.htm:


------------------------------------------------------
How to Reduce Oil Pumping costs by 75 to 80 percent

(Notice: this file is intended for criminal internet maggots, and a
few other lamers around Minnesota and Iowa. It was first written and
circulated and posted to the internet in 1997 It is not intended for
others, except in perhaps a few isolated cases of total disrespect).
Warning: this could be very dangerous for your ass.

If you profit, know that I will charge a penalty of spiritual
servitude in certain cases. If you own an oil well or two, and this
information comes your way, you don't have to worry about it, unless
it makes you more than a million dollars a year, and then I expect a
cut of the profits. If you have no idea how to get ahold of me, then
I'll likely let you slide. Be aware that I will go through your
memories, to see exactly what you knew.

That includes oil companies. For those mentioned above, after 30 years
from 1999, no penalties will be charged.

The ones who have the serious need to worry about owing me spiritual
servitude would be those fools who bought at least a part of one or
more closed down oil wells, with the intention of reopening them based
on my proposed modifications, without cutting me in for 10 percent of
the profits. I will not be lenient with your lame ass, be rest
assured...

Currently, oil wells use one of three methods of pumping crude oil.
These are electric, natural gas, and oil fueled pumps which are fueled
directly from the well. (This ignores advanced recovery techniques
such as brine pumping, but the improvement works for those techniques
as well). The latter method is not in widespread use because of
government pollution regulations, fuel inefficiency, and high
maintenance costs and requirements.

The modification is an upgrade to use a steam powered pump, powered by
electricity or natural gas or other means, and augmented with passive
solar power.

The concept of passive solar power is a proven technology, gone into
in vast detail in the book "Passive Solar Design".

Let's say that all current oil well pumps were steam pumps, where


natural gas or electricity heated water to steam to drive the pump.
This would actually be a slight to moderate improvement over existing
methods, in and of itself, in terms of efficiency, because the
Stirling cycle engine (steam engine / steam pump) is the most
efficient means known to convert heat into mechanical energy.

But this small efficiency improvement is not the heart of the proposed
modification.

The basic concept of the improvement is to use fuel or electricity to
raise the water temperature at 160 to 200 degrees to 212 degrees (the
boiling point / steam) or more, instead of using it to heat water from
80 to 100 degrees to 212 degrees.

When the steam drives the pump, it's heat is converted to mechanical


energy, and the temperature of the steam falls from 212 degrees to 80
to 100 degrees in the process.

Normally, to just use fuel to bring the water temperature back to
boiling is to raise the water temperature from 90 degrees back to 212
degrees, a temperature increase requirement of 122 degrees.

This improvement uses a passive solar heat generation and storage

layout to raise the water temperature from the 90 degrees condenser
temperature 180 degrees. Then, fuel or electricity only needs to be


used to raise the temperature from 180 to 212 degrees, a temperature
increase requirement of only 32 degrees.

Do the math: use fuel to increase water temperature 32 degrees, or use
fuel to increase the water temperature 122 degrees. This works out to

a savings of 3.8125, or about 1/4 as much energy as it would take to


raise the water temperature 122 degrees. At the lower latitudes of
Texas, Oklahoma, and California, it works out closer to 1/5 as much
energy.

I've been around in Texas and Oklahoma, and I never witnessed any
passive solar installations in operation. I rode a bicycle through the
Oklahoma countryside over 50 miles, saw hundreds of oil pumps, but no
solar.

The technology is proven, but has never been applied to this type of


application. It gives US domestic oil producers a competitive
advantage, because it makes transportation costs more of an issue in
the total price of fuel. Arabs have to ship crude oil thousands of
miles, domestic producers only hundreds of miles.

Let's say we are in Texas. The sun heats stored water to an annual


average (including after dark heat storage) of 180 degrees at the
latitude of Texas. Of course, one needs to have a sufficient number of
black plastic 55 gallon drums or suitable substitute heat storage

medium to adequately meet the supply and storage requirements, so that


at night in winter, the heat will not fall below 150 to 160 degrees by
the time the sun rises again.

That this can be done is more than obvious. ("Passive Solar Design")


There is no theory there, only known and proven fact.

One uses the solar constant tables form that book, and with their


calculated water flow requirements for the pump's capacity in CFM,

calculates the number of drums required.

Then one bulldozes out an appropriately sized area, creating a 5 foot
high hill that runs east and west. The south half of the hill is then
bulldozed out, and styrofoam panels installed on the back (south
facing, east-west running) wall and floor. Then one installs the 55

gallon drums and plastic pipe to connect them.

Then one builds a sparse frame out of wood or steel or aluminum, and
covers the entire area with a clear sheet plastic greenhouse. One
installs one more sheet plastic greenhouse around the first one,
leaving a little air space between the two, and then installs a hard
plastic or glass greenhouse around that, to create a triple insulated
greenhouse.

For a steam pump that has a 1000 gallon per hour pumping capacity, the


pump itself would cost about $2000. The greenhouse and 55 gallon drums

would cost about $6000. A failsafe computer monitoring system for the


steam pump, that has the capacity to regulate the system and call for
human assistance when required, about $200 to $5000, depending on
where one acquires it. A high school senior can build that for $200.
IBM would likely want $5000.

In other words, this would pay for itself in a single year. Notice,


that's 1000 gallons per hour, not 1000 gallons per day.

So, unless the Arabs have taken over all the banks, there is
absolutely no problem obtaining the financing to reopen a closed down
oil well. The vast majority of US oil wells that have closed (by the
thousands) have closed simply because it costs more to pump the oil
than the oil can be sold for. Costing $40 to pump $31.50 worth of oil

is a recent example that caused an oil well to be shut down. (from NBC
News).

cover to cover, looking for the best alternative. Although some had


appreciably lower boiling points, these were either toxic, explosive
when exposed to water or air, or degenerated / decomposed over time.
(See: 1986 geothermal power plant design) CT is also inexpensive in
the small quantities required.

I took this idea to US Senator Grassley's office (R-IA), offering them
this golden opportunity to make an immense profit by buying closed
down oil wells, but he as yet still hasn't developed the required
intelligence to see the need to cut me in for a piece of my own pie...
All these spiritual servitude pages apply, I brought a copy of them
down there as well, so it isn't as if I didn't point all this out
earlier...

Just so you know, I approached Grassley as both a Senator and as a
private individual, so there would be nothing illegal in him and his
associates dealing with and profiting by my business proposition.


I have to admit, I seriously have to consider whether foreign dickweed
lamers have taken over, given the lack of response from there...
Foreign assholes that would be wise to either remove their lame ass
back to their faggot country, or become Americans like normal
people... after all, we all immigrated, you know. Seriously, could a
US Senator actually be this un-American?


"Snatch the technology from my hand, Grasshopper"


feklar

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Then there are the records of well over 100 internet sales I made,
about 2/3 on eBAy and the rest on USENET.

Of all of these, about half were transacted between myself and buyers
with .com, .gov, .org e-mail addresses, and there was never any e-mail
problem with those.

It obviosuly wasn't therefore any type of blanket censorship: each
e-mail had to be individually assessed to see if it should be censored
or not.

So, using certain excuses for the censorship fail under the light of
investigation.

If you don't follow what this means... well, don't worry about it.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 4:32:41 PM3/23/03
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Well, I oculd give one example for one of the possible excuses, but
this isn't the excuse that I was really trying to address.

It obviosuly wasn't an effort to screw me by my enemies, because if it
if was, with the demonstable level of censorship that went on, I
wouldn't have been able to go up to St. Paul, MN, buy 18 SVGA monitors
for $2 each, half needing no repair, the other half except one that
was unsalvagable needing minor adjustments, and then turn around and
sell them on eBay and USENET for an average of $100 each... very
profitable.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 6:13:39 PM3/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:32:41 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:

>It obviosuly wasn't an effort to screw me by my enemies, because if it
>if was, with the demonstable level of censorship that went on, I
>wouldn't have been able to go up to St. Paul, MN, buy 18 SVGA monitors
>for $2 each, half needing no repair, the other half except one that
>was unsalvagable needing minor adjustments, and then turn around and
>sell them on eBay and USENET for an average of $100 each... very
>profitable.

Even a retard could follow that, with one little extra piece of
information. Someone was censoring either my outgoing or incoming
e-mail, or more lkely, both: this can be proven.

Someone wants to screw me over. They have this capability. I try to
sell something on eBAy. I list it, the auction ends and the items
sells. The e-mails to complete the sale begin. The retards pulling
the censoring decide if the mail should go through. If the mail does
not go through I get kicked off eBAy or almost as bad, get negative
feedback posted that I do not pay for auctions I win or do not ship
items I sell.

Yet I have a postive feedback rating of greater than 60 on eBay, and I
have the saved recrods to prove it. Of my total 60+ feedbacks on
eBay, there has neveer been a single posting of a negative feedback,
ever.

100 percent postive feedback. More than 60 positives, no negatives.

I always knew I was a hell of a guy but that is ridiculous.

The higher the feedback rating, the more $ one gets selling on eBay
because the buyers have confidence they will not get screwed.

This works the other way around, too. And some of the earliest
e-mails in my records involved potential problems with buyers on eBay.
Once I sent the wrong item to the wrong address, then realized it and
sent an e-mailtelling the buyer of my mistake and asking them not to
post negative feedback because I would more than rectify my error for
The subject was mentioned at least 2 or 3 other e-mails, so to anyone
reading the e-mails, that not getting negative eBay feedback was
important to me was very obvously apparent.

So even if the retards were my enemies who were doing the censoring to
screw me over personally, but were too moronic to figure out how to
screw me over, one would think it would be pretty easy after I pointed
out exactly how to go about doing it you think? So why wasn't it done
if that was the excuse?

Let's hear other excuses, maybe you can think of one I missed...

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 6:39:46 PM3/23/03
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Normally, anyone would would try to censor the news of silver
poisoning would be locked up for treason.

A lawsuit over silver poisoning would be decided by a United States
Judge, and Oriental-Land would end up paying 90 percent or more of the
settlement, a one-time improvement to the United States trade deficeit
of at least upwards of five billion dollars, more likely a lot more
than that. To put amount that in perspective, the USA imports 50 to
100 billion dollars of foreign oil annually.

It is far too difficult and expensive for any government agency to try
to detect assholes using electromagnetic weapons or using silver
poisoning to run theoir faggot scams, and actually stand any
reasonable chance of finding anything. In addition, no TV sets are
even made in the USA anymore. They are all made in Japan, Korea,
Mexico, Taiwan, Malaysia... Japan and Korea are worthy of note since
we have been known to be at wor with both at one time or another in
the past, and Japan has been known to attack without warning and kill
many thousands of Americans.

Given the current war, obviously dreams of conquest are by no means
dead. Given the events of five or ten years ago, the same is true.

Are you going to tell me that the government is capable of checking
every single imported TV set to be sure that everything inside is
legitimate? Some people have said that the Nintendo machine has been
a form of foreign attack, and has greatly decreased the physical
quality of our children's physical conditon, from lack of exercise as
a result of the use of a brainwashing device, to where half of them
would be rejected by our military as being unfit for service because
they are so out of shape physically.

In a case like this the best the government could hope for would be to
hope that the television importers would be decent, and not implement
the mind control that is possible with such devices, because of the
near mpossibility of detection or deciphering the meaning, and
especially the actual source, of unknown modulatoin patterns.

It does stand to reason, especially after what some in the government
have seen demonstrated as to the degree of control one person can
exercise upon another.

As for the financial impact in the USA, obviously the government would
tell Zenith and Emerson a year in advance of the coming lawsuit, so
they could all bail out with their golden parachutes and declare
bankruptcy, and later start up replacement corporations. Remember,
there is no real workforce anymore, at least not in the USA: all of
that is comprised of foreigners working in foreign countries.

200 people might be temporarily displaced vs. an extra minimum 5
billion dollars coming into the USA.

GE and North American Philips are the only other real domestic
concerns, and both are large enough to withstand a one time
considerable loss. NAP used to be only 40 percent American owned, and
the percentage is no doubt less today. Emerson is an importer, not a
picture tube designer. The picture tube designers and manufacturers
would be the only real defendants in the lawsuit (other than the FCC).
IF the FCC has to pay something it would be decided by a USA Judge,
and have no real effect on the economy. A one time improvement in the
trade balance of at least 5 billion dollars on the other hand...

Of course, all of this is nothing new: I said the same thing four
years ago, and I tried to say it on the internet. I have the records
to prove it.

There could be no frivilous claims for silver poisoning either,
because it can be demonstrated exactly what degree of silver poisoning
someone has, and one would have to have a pretty bad case to get more
than getting their silver fillings replaced. Of course, just to
replace everyone's silver fillings would cost a lot more than 5
billoin dollars, about 7 or 8 billion dollars at least, maybe 4
billion if Japan sent over roving teams of their own dentists to offer
the replacement service for free.

The only real issue is whether silver poisoning allows manipulation of
people's sleep schedules and "mind control". This has been
demonstrated, and the right people already know how to verify that.

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 6:45:47 PM3/23/03
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Now the first issue, the eBay feedback , even a censoring retard could
fllow without that much difficulty. The logic is easily apparent.

The second example, silver poisoning, involves more complicated logic,
and lamers would cry about being to moronic to follow it, or dismiss
it, but if the lamers are someone inside any government intelligence
agency, if something comes up involving a potential matter of national
security and someone is too stupid to follow it or doesn't have access
to all the facts to be able to make an intelligent decision, they are
required to and have the resposibility to send it off to someone who
does have the capability to make an accurate assessment.

The censoring implies to the level of, basically, proof, that the
assessment was already made, the facts were known, and the lamers felt
no need to ask anyone about something they already knew about.

Without the censoring, an accurate assessment would have resulted.

toadmonkey

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Mar 23, 2003, 7:12:45 PM3/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 23:39:46 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:

>Normally, anyone would would try to censor the news of silver
>poisoning would be locked up for treason.

-snip-


>The only real issue is whether silver poisoning allows manipulation of
>people's sleep schedules and "mind control". This has been
>demonstrated, and the right people already know how to verify that.
>

I take it you're not a strong supporter of collodial silver, then?

feklar

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Mar 23, 2003, 7:17:50 PM3/23/03
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:12:45 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>I take it you're not a strong supporter of collodial silver, then?

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feklar

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:12:45 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>I take it you're not a strong supporter of collodial silver, then?

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Jim Buch

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Mar 23, 2003, 9:49:25 PM3/23/03
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feklar wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:04:10 -0600, Jim Buch <jb...@revealed.net>
> wrote:
>
> >over 70 years ago, Thomas Edison "invented" concrete houses. Now viewed
> >as one of his "Oddities".
>
> Comparing me to Edison now? Finally, some deserved respect.

No, even Edison made this "magic material" mistake.

Just because you make a similar mistake as Edison doesn't mean that you
are comparable to Edison.

Edison probably wasn't as inconsiderate as you seem to be.

feklar

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Mar 24, 2003, 6:55:44 PM3/24/03
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I want to avoid any confusion about the extrusion tunnel(s).

Consider the extrusion tunnel to be the tunnel the panel that is being
created slides through as the extrusion machine moves forward.

The panel remains stationary with respect to the ground of fixed
ground points while the machine that is creating it moves forwards.

There are numerous ways this can be implemented, and in some designs
the machine may well stay stationary while the panel being extruded
moves.

Consider a rectangular extrusion tunnel, 12 feet wide with an
adjustable height from 6 to 24 inches, and is somewhat longer than 40
feet long.

The bottom will be a rotating endless conveyor belt made of fairly
thin width steel plates. Compare it to a ARMY tank track, only much
longer, thinner, with a much greater number of plates that are much
thinner and much less wide.

Compare this to a long wide endless conveyor belt made of rubber that
has two cylinders at the ends to supply rotation power and the
rotation end points

The panel being extruded will be carried along on this steel conveyor
as it is extruded.

In all likelihood there will be two separate conveyor belts. First a
short one a few feet long at the extrusion end, with rotating racks of
oscillating interlocking racks of pins, (or teflon or similar material
coated steel plates) as described earlier to keep the pyrex from
sticking to the surface. Then the longer one butted up against the
first to carry the more solidified and cooled panel the rest of the
way down the tunnel.

In the short section of the tunnel, it is likely that there will be
four rotating pin plate belts, bottom, top, and the two sides. In the
long section of the tunnel, only the bottom, or only the two sides
will carry the panel. Pressure wheel along the two sides could press
tightly against the panel's sides and force it along, or the bottom of
the tunnel can be a standard conveyor belt. In another possible
arrangement the bottom would only be a smooth steel slide surface, and
the panel would be pulled through the channel from the other end.

At the beginning of a panel's extrusion, a curved steel plate, as high
as the tunnel height, is used as the initial surface to begin the
extrusion upon. The chord matches the chord of the rotation radius of
the rotary extruder arms described earlier.

Using the high speed rotary design, this means that the nozzles at the
beginning would sweep past the plate from a distance of a few inches
to begin the deposition.

But instead of using a smooth curved steel plate to begin the
deposition, use one the has a number of T-handles or T-posts sticking
out of the front face towards the extruder arms. After numerous
passes by the extruder, these posts would be encased in pyrex and the
pyrex would have solidified enough around them for the entire curved
plate to be used as a winch connecting point, and a cable on the other
side of the plate can drag the plate and the attached panel through
the tunnel. In the first few feet, to allow enough cooling and
solidification to occur, the panel is moved through the first, short,
powered section of the extrusion tunnel by the rotation force of the
four rotating conveyor belts on all four sides. After the curved
steel plate passes out of this area the drive motors to the four
conveyors can be turned off and the movement control transferred to
the cable and a powerful winch at the other end. Obviously, given the
massive weight of even a chambered panel, the winch will have to be
very heavy duty, and be more massive than the greatest panel weight
the machine is expected to produce, or at least be very massive and be
able anchor itself to a fixed reference on the ground to provide
leverage.

After the panel has been built up to the required length, say 46 feet
for a 40 foot final panel length, the two curved ends can be cut off
the panel and recycled. The end that contains the embedded starter
plate has the plate melted off (meaning the pyrex is melted back off
of the plate) and the plate is returned to the plate pool for further
duty.

It is likely, even if a cable is used to pull the plate through the
tunnel, that an unpowered roller type conveyor belt made of thin width
steel plates will be used in the long section of the tunnel, to
provide less resistance to the traveling panel than a smooth slide.

The first cable would be longer than the tunnel. If done properly,
shorter additional sections of cable can pull more panels through,
each connected to the other using the same approach of using the
starter plate as an anchor, but in this case also having ending
plates, and using the short cables to connect each ending plate to a
new starting plate. The ending plates would obviously have the
T-posts on the other side of the curve than the beginning plates.

feklar

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Mar 24, 2003, 8:19:07 PM3/24/03
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Ah the second one, how we could end oil imports from the Middle east,
only importing from Mexico and South America and maybe Canada. and we
would have enough oil that way to last 50 to 100 years, more than
enough time to switch to our 1000 year supply of domestic natural gas,
and then later our endless reserve of biomass natural gas.

If you want to cut the cost of a 20 billion dollar offshore oil rig
all the way down to 250 million dollars, and build 80 oil wells for
what it costs to build one now, all you have to do it this (its really
simple):

Fill a sink full of water, hold a shot glass upside down over it and
lower it into the water so the air doesn't escape, then place a brick
over the top of it so it doesn't float up to the surface. Just show
that to someone who actually knows some basic mechanical design.
That's all you need to do.

Of course, under the Gulf of Mexico one builds the structure first,
using reinforced concrete encased in extruded plastic to make it
waterproof, then pumps the water out and replaces it with air after it
has been weighted down..

Draw a scale representation of a 30 foot wide diameter, and a 42 foot
diameter around that. Use a compass to mark off ten 36 degree
sections of both rings starting a 0 degrees.

This represents ten 36 degree wide sections, each made of two foot
thick concrete (or steel) (before plastic encasement), so that each
section of the ring measures about 12 feet high by 12 feet wide and 18
degrees of arc long, with an internal hollow cavity of 8 feet by 8
feet.

Make each section out of cast concrete with heavy rebar reinforcement.
Before the concrete is poured, install six heavy duty structural steel
curved pipes running horizontally the length of the chord or arc,
three on the inner wall, upper, middle, and lower, and three longer
ones inside the outer wall, upper, middle, and lower.

After the section has been cast and cured, use a crane to lower it
into a plastic injection machine and mold two inches of plastic around
the entire outer surface and end surfaces. As part of the injection
mold create plastic interlocking grooved ridges around the ends of the
sections so that a grooved rubber seal can be placed between sections
to mate them together.

I will describe the entire structure, but I want to point out here to
the ignorant that this method would work perfectly: the reinforced
concrete is strong enough (although I might be of a few inches on the
thickness) to serve the intended use.

If that isn't obvious, then imagine that solid steel sections would be
used, encased in plastic as with concrete, to keep out rust rather
than to keep out water to maintain strength). If concrete were used,
the parts cost for the entire structure, with five or six complete
rings stacked on top of one another and a roof made of similar
construction placed atop the structure, would be 5 million dollars.
If steel were used, the total cost would be 20 million dollars: still
well within a very acceptable range, especially considering the
alternative, having to build a 40 to 100 story tall skyscraper rising
off the ocean floor, that is capable of withstanding minor tidal
waves, and storm surge from category 5 hurricane, an equivalent of
winds many hundreds of miles per hour strong if the same strength were
needed in a land based skyscraper. Its no wonder they cost 20 billion
dollars., about five times the cost of a similar storied land based
skyscraper. In other words, if planes had crashed into a skyscraper
built as strong as an oil rig, the people inside would have been
laughing their asses off at the terrorist assholes as they watched the
planes bounce off the buildings, without hardly leaving a dent in the
side (at least until they found out about the innocents on board but I
think the point has been made...).

Consider a modern Trident submarine hull. We have submarines that
have far less hull thickness than the proposed thickness that can
easily go down to that depth, park on the ocean floor, and stay there
almost indefinitely.

At any rate... the ring sections are lowered to the bottom and placed
around 30 foot diameter concrete floor disk sections that preceded
them.

Six heavy duty steel cables are run through the pipe inside the walls,
and turnbuckles are used to tighten them down. This locks the ring
more solid than a fist. The sections are locked together, end to end,
by the considerable force of the six cables inside the six hollow
rings of pipe that are contained within the inner and outer walls.

Actually, each pipe ring will likely contain three or four cable
sections, and each will have a turnbuckle so there are three or four
turnbuckle tightening points around each pipe ring. The effect is six
rings of cable inside the pipes.

Obviously, the cable tension in the outer three pipe rings must be
slightly to somewhat greater than that for the inner three pipe rings.
(The leverage and locking concepts of the architectural arch)

Five or six stories of rings are fit together, stacked one on top of
another, and these can be locked together with steel cable inside pipe
the same way, from top to bottom.

A roof made of similar construction is attached and locked down the
same way, and the structure is almost ready for occupation.

First we need ballast. Concrete ballast blocks are constructed, say
12 feet by 12 feet by 24 inches, with a a foot diameter hole in the
center of each one. I am not certain the need exists to encase these
in plastic, but they probably need some minor mild steel rebar
reinforcement.

Place about 40 or 50 of these end to end on the ocean floor, one set
at each of the four points of the compass. Then thread 12 inch
diameter marine duty poly cable through the center hole and lock the
end of the cable and the sections together.

Then thread a web of marine duty poly cable over the top of the
structure and tighten the whole thing together.

Obviously, one of the four 5 million dollar mini subs attached to the
station is going to have to go out once or twice a week to check the
cable tension and adjust it if required. The need for double or
triple strength redundancy (three separate cable networks) for safety
concerns is also apparent.

Now we have ballast, and the structure will not float up and turn over
when the water is pumped out and positive air pressure established
inside. The entire center of the structure plus the bottom two rings
are evacuated of water and a positive air pressure established.

After a few more minor details are attended to, land based style
drilling operations can commence in the interior of the structure.

The need for equipment and personnel transfer airlocks is apparent,
but simple enough to implement that there is no need to bore anyone
with details.

The connections to the surface are established. A redundant snorkel,
the oil pumping lines, electrical connections to the pumping station
at the surface, comm lines and the like.

The pumping station would eventually be an anchored supertanker, but i
an emergency about 50 destroyers and battleships could be taken out of
mothballs and would serve the purpose more than adequately.

In the case of a hurricane, the pumping station leaves to find a
better environment, and returns after the bad weather passes.

We still need two more sets of four sets of ballast blocks.

First the interconnector point, somewhere not too far under the
surface, a few tens of meters down. This point separates the cables
and hoses into an upper and lower half, and is designed to separate if
enough shearing force is applied from the surface. If enough force is
applied (say the pumping station Captain is doing to the wife on the
bridge and the ship goes floating away while still connected because
the Captain is too occupied with other matters for his own good) the
interconnector will release and separate in a controlled manner, and
the worst damage done is that someone has to go down in a mini sub and
hook the two ends back together. The ex-Captain of the EXXON Valdez
could be trusted here not to screw things up.

The interconnection assembly is anchored by four sets of ballast
blocks, no doubt much less heavy duty or far fewer in number of
individual blocks. The Marine duty cable runs up from the blocks on
the ocean floor to the interconnector. No doubt smaller cable
diameter will be used because it costs a lot less and there is no need
for extra heavy duty here.

Then there is the pumping station / Supertanker anchoring point at or
near the surface. Four more sets of ballast blocks, that is, four
extremely heavy duty sets, spaced a little further out from the
station on the bottom as the first two sets. More cables run to the
surface, and these cables are the extra heavy duty variety, perhaps
thicker than a foot in diameter.

Obviously the end goal is to allow two oil supertankers to dock to the
docking ring and not drag the ballast block arrays along the ocean
floor. This is just a question of "how many total blocks do we need?"

Now we are finally ready to get something started. First we get some
type of initial pumping station to dock. The pumping station pumps
down a small amount of crude oil, and sends electricity down.

At the bottom, the battery banks are brought up to full charge. The
main and reserve compressed air tanks are brought up to the
appropriate pressures. Fresh breathing air gets pumped down from the
surface and exhaust air gets pumped out.

Now we are ready to start the electrolysis / hydrolysis units. We get
those going and now we have oxygen and hydrogen. The hydrogen we pump
out the side. The oxygen we use to burn a finely ionized mist of
crude oil. Now we have internal power from the steam generator thanks
to the burning oil. Even crude oil burning in a nearly pure oxygen
atmosphere produces almost no pollution, and the entire exhaust output
of the station will be less than that of the average automobile.
Therefore not even Greenpeace can cry about it or have a cow.

All this time air is being brought down from the snorkel at the
surface, then compressed into tanks. This positive air pressure blows
what little exhaust gas as gets created.

Now the station is self-sustaining, as long as a crude oil fuel supply
is maintained, (considering that even a chimpanzee knows that
redundancy in all station systems is a requirement here).

We have all the electricity we need to power the station and power the
drilling operations, to keep air coming down from the surface, keep
the batteries and air tanks on the four maintenance and escape mini
subs, and so on and so forth.

If the oil well never comes in, the entire station is disassembled and
moved to a better location. If the well does come, the station begins
to use a small part of the pumped oil to fuel itself.

A water column can be maintained above the borehole to come slamming
down in case of a high pressure blowout, just in case you were
wondering. There is no way the force of that high pressure gas or oil
trying to come up can match the force of the entire depth of the ocean
trying to keep it down.

I will leave it to someone else to design it: it isn't that hard a
task. I guess the main point is that it would be a very heavy duty
extra large diameter steel pipe with a closed lower end.

So which is cheaper, a five story building that sits on the ocean
floor, or a building five times as expensive and almost as high as one
of the World Trade Center Towers was?

------------------------------------------------------------

This obviously works, and the economics add up.

Only foreigners wanting to screw the USA want to see this idea hidden
away.

Out of my patriotism, given the current situation in the world, I try
to give the damn thing away to Conoco/Philips and I end up having to
deal wth you retards.


feklar

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Mar 24, 2003, 8:24:30 PM3/24/03
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feklar

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Mar 24, 2003, 8:30:47 PM3/24/03
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What I want to know is why do I always have to be the one to correct
everybody else's ancient, defective, Cro-Magnon approach to
implementing a technology?

This is all very annoying

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toadmonkey

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As annoying as an individual, such as yourself, that is too stupid to speak for
himself, and instead has to use mp3s to voice his thoughts? Interesting how you
only see in others what you really see in yourself.

feklar

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Mar 25, 2003, 11:29:28 AM3/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:45:52 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>As annoying as an individual, such as yourself, that is too stupid to speak for
>himself, and instead has to use mp3s to voice his thoughts? Interesting how you
>only see in others what you really see in yourself.

My heart bleeds for your suffering. Hell I may even decide not to
reincarnate your ass.

Jim F

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Mar 25, 2003, 10:15:00 PM3/25/03
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Sounds great. Go do it and make a bucket of dough.


feklar

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Mar 25, 2003, 9:53:49 PM3/25/03
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:15:00 GMT, "Jim F" <fet...@ameritech.net>
wrote:

>Sounds great. Go do it and make a bucket of dough.

Yea right, I would need a million dollars to fight my way through the
faggot bureaucracy here, with amybe a 10 percent chance of not getting
ripped off my criminal maggots.

I went down to Mexico and tried to deal with them but they haven't
showed up here yet. Damn, the first prototype undersea oil well
should be halfway built by now, and the pyrex machine should be a
third of the way done.

I care for my 72 year old mother so I can't drive across the entire
width of Olahoma to go to Phillips and talk to someone in person
because I can't leave her here alone that long. I tried to get my
ex-girlfriend Mariel to come down from Minnesota but some criminal
maggots and the phone company I had problems with in the past made it
so she couldn't call down here, or I could have left her for a few
days and gone ot Dallas, Bartlesville, Houston, and back to Mexico by
now. Obviosuly with the faggot bureaucracy that exists here and the
rat race that breeds stealing unpatriotic criinal assholes means that
I have to give it away here and try to deal with the Mexicans: they
don't have any of these problems down there.

I don't have the resources to be out looking for a female I could
trust to deal with what Mariel could have dealt with in taking care of
my mother while I was away: the few wenches that have made themselves
available have either been incompatible (I don't start something in
that respect I don't plan on finishing), someone I doubt I could
trust, so motley looking I wouldn't jump their bones with toadmonkey's
lame carcass (or even Ozzy's carcass), or crack whores who probably
have all manner of strange diseases.

The goddamn price of gasoline will fall back below a dollar a gallon
once these new wells start coming in and the other oil pump
improvement starts getting implemented, while at the same time the oil
companies make more money than they had been making.

With the financial and other limitations I have to deal with this, I
have been left trying to find one normal person either close by or on
the internet in a vast army of total retards, and I haven't managed to
find that person yet.

I suppose I will try the OSBI again, and if I can make progress there,
then maybe the church and the Apache and Comanche Nations again.

feklar

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:15:00 GMT, "Jim F" <fet...@ameritech.net>
wrote:

>Sounds great. Go do it and make a bucket of dough.

Never could understand that... with what I invented I should have
money coming out of my ass. I should have enough to buy Carnival
Cruise Lines. All I ever wanted was $200,000 a year because that was
what I was supposed to get.

(Now if I stay ehre in tthe USA it would have to be $400,000 a year
because of the aspect of the gods' involvement having been crapped all
over, but in Mexico it would be $200,000 after the Mexicans start
making the pesos from what I invented (2 million pesos a year)

I can almost see any asshole trying to grab up an opportunity to make
money, on the one hand, but on the other hand when there is this much
money involved how someone could be stupid enough to grab it all and
then tell me and the gods both, "thanks, fucking chump", I couldn't
even begin to figure how someone would want to screw themselves that
way, but it seems to be the norm here.

Look at the imense scale of impact of the pyrex machine, and then tell
me there is no reason to suspect that I might be right about ahving a
spiritually assigned goal to be and potential as an inventor.

Or hell, even the immense potential of the oil technologies: like the
pyrex machine, they are noth worth upwards of billions of dollars, and
neither is just some better way to picking up dogshit off the
sidewalk.

Then there is the patriotic aspect: Why anyone, especially someone in
the government, would take actions (and inactions) that fuck over the
greatest potentials and assets of the USA, I couldn't begin to know,
unless the lamers are devil worshippers or foreigners, or both.

feklar

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You have your devices.
I have mine.

feklar

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It might not be readily apparent, but in a high speed rotary extrusion
setup for producing chambered panels, there needs to be three levels
of nozzles for both hot and cold sides.

It isn't necessary to fill in the area between the cubes, the more
empty space between the cubes (within reason) inside the panel, the
better.

But there need to be upper and lower nozzles to fill in the areas that
make up the faces of the panels. So, the upper and lower nozzles
would cover the area between the cubes and the outer faces of the
panels. The middle set of nozzles turn off for a few passes while the
upper and lower nozzles fill in the area between the cubes and the
outer dimension to make the outer faces (outer surface) of the panel.
After a detection method (laser, ultrasound, proximity, or other
method) detects that the face areas has been filled in, the middle set
of nozzles (wider / taller than the top and bottom sets of nozzles)
turn on again, the faces are added to the cubes, and the cycle is
repeated with another new rack of premade four sided cubes.

Obviously, when applying the cubes to a curved surface, the cubes will
not be equal-sided. One side will be longer than the other except for
the middle cube. This is no problem: continuous stock for the cubes
faces can be extruded via conventional means elsewhere inside the
machine, and the pieces can be cut to the proper length and formed
into the uneven sided cubes automatically, so that each cube wll have
the proper dimensions based on its intended destination.

Breakage should not be an issue for the continuous stock even if it is
rapidly cooled because of the small dimensions of the stock, 1 to 4
inches wide, perhaps 1/16 to 1/4 inch thick.

Edward D. Vojcak

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> You have your devices.
> I have mine.

People in glass houses (or make believe glass/pyrex houses), shouldn't throw stones!


Pyrex Kic <10 ksi in^˝

Ed Vojcak PE

feklar

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On 31 Mar 2003 20:25:24 -0800, edp...@megsinet.net (Edward D. Vojcak)
wrote:

>People in glass houses (or make believe glass/pyrex houses), shouldn't throw stones!

You are mistaken. I believe the proper corollary is "The Three Little
Pigs".

>Pyrex Kic <10 ksi in^½

There are materials far better suited and much stronger / resilient
than pyrex. Pyrex was mentioned because it is a commonly recognized
material with properties somewhat similar to structural glass, and
people could easily visualize it. A layman has no idea what Pyrex Kic
<10 ksi in^½ might indicate.

Pyrex would work for vertical panels such as walls. Because of the
strength limitations, even with lighter weight chambered pyrex, there
are somewhat restrictive limitations on the maximum dimensions of a
horizontal span such as a floor if it is to be expected to carry, say,
the weight of a filled waterbed. Other glass materials are far more
appropriate as a choice for this than pyrex is.

The machine should be able to produce synthetic marble. Marble is a
form of crude glass. Look to Athens or Rome to see 4000 year old
pillars of solid marble that hold up tens or in some cases hundreds of
tons of roof. Most are in as good a condition as the day they were
first carved, and of those that are not, the damage came from impact
or other human and animal generated causes such as acids from bird
guano. The machine should be able to produce synthetic obsidian, or
even synthetic granite (without the Uranium and radiation,
presumably).

You should speak in terms the layman can understand since many have
been invited here to see the assessments. Like how many PSI a
junkyard car crusher has to apply before it will crush a pyrex block,
for example, and a comparison to the force it takes for steel.

My favorite example of this is pointing out the strength of
bulletproof glass in an easily verifiable example, that a lot of
people are already familiar with: The commander of the ARMY Air Force
in England in W.W.II said "If Capone and Dillinger can have
bulletproof glass for their jalopies, then my B-17 bomber crews are
sure going to have it for their planes"

The glass was installed. Remember, plastic wasn't even invented until
15 years later, so this wasn't reinforced safety glass, just a solid
block of structural strengthened glass. It would stop 50mm ( about
1.5 inch) cannon shells traveling faster than rifle bullets.

Most of the types of structural glass formulations used in the
manufacture of large CRTs would be excellent choices.

Why do you quote a fact or formula when the end product's properties
have not been assessed as yet? For one, you do not take into
consideration the new method of combining potassium into the structure
of the glass, and two you cannot know what the properties of the
finished product will be, since the crystal matrix will be markedly
different in nature than with floating or casting. The internal
crystal matrix should exhibit far more randomization, and until the
finished product is available for analysis, there is no way to know
what the properties will be, except perhaps a supercomputer atomic and
molecular modeling simulation that takes weeks to write and a month to
run.

It sounds like you are considerably far more predisposed to a
predetermined negative assessment than a detached scientific
assessment would require. The use of the term "Make believe" is
probably the most obvious dead giveaway, for those ignorant of the
underlying mechanical principles of objects. You are disqualified.

feklar

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If anyone in here is more interested in analysis than trying to either
pass themselves off as being an expert or so busy bragging about being
one that they don't have any time left over for an actual assesment, I
would remind you that whatever material is used, it is a given that
vertical panels such as walls will have the structural strength
required. There will be an issue, regardless of whatever material is
used, regarding the maximum dimensions of a horizontal span such as a
floor. I would ifnd it hard to beleive that the panels could be made
strong enough to exceed 16 x 16 feet or so without additional support.

On the other hand, there are architechural techniques to deal with
this. A support pillar or post below the panel in the center can
quadruple the panel's load bearing capacity. So can two arches
underneath the panel. A single arch can double the load bearing
capacity. Therefore it is basically a non-issue, except perhaps for
the rich who might demand an 80 by 80 foot span. Hey, for them the
house could be built of glass, with steel crossmembers to support
their ridiculousness.

feklar

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feklar

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toadmonkey

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On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:49:53 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:

>If anyone in here is more interested in analysis than trying to either
>pass themselves off as being an expert or so busy bragging about being
>one that they don't have any time left over for an actual assesment,
>

Looking in the mirror again? Listen, you don't know shit. Period. Marble is
NOT a crude form of glass. Anyone that believes that is a pure stupid idiot.
Namely you, since you made that claim.

Also, stopping a 1.5" cannon shells is gonna require a bit more than marble or
even the pyrex stuff you're talking about. But it also depends on the shell
composition (FMJ, AP, HE, etc.), the range the cannon is fired at, the powder
load used when fired, attitude of impact, and then the type of gun itself. Lots
of stuff I won't approach here.

Feklar, you spend so much time on this project, something that I strongly feel
is fiction, if you put the same effort and time into something more worthwhile,
you would have far better luck.

Something you may wish to consider.

feklar

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On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 07:43:20 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

>Looking in the mirror again? Listen, you don't know shit. Period. Marble is
>NOT a crude form of glass. Anyone that believes that is a pure stupid idiot.
>Namely you, since you made that claim.

Normal people, consult the dictionary or encyclopedia here.

>Also, stopping a 1.5" cannon shells is gonna require a bit more than marble or
>even the pyrex stuff you're talking about. But it also depends on the shell
>composition (FMJ, AP, HE, etc.), the range the cannon is fired at, the powder
>load used when fired, attitude of impact, and then the type of gun itself. Lots
>of stuff I won't approach here.

So that's why the germans lost the war, because we had advanced modern
shell composition shell


>composition (FMJ, AP, HE, etc.)

and they didn't.

I knew the military knows about shit long before the general public
gets to know, but this is ridiculous

feklar

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>I knew the military knows about shit long before the general public
>gets to know, but this is ridiculous

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feklar

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On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 07:43:20 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
(toadmonkey) wrote:

Just to make sure we are on the same page here: you do realize how
glass, marble, granite, or any other form of natural or synthetic rock
is initially formed, right?

Let me guess... you believe that God magically wished it into
existence

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feklar

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>Let me guess... you believe that God magically wished it into
>existence

Good thing God decided to be reasonable and create iron ore deposits
rather than tool steel deposits or the shit would be a real pain in
the ass to mine and process

feklar

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The concept can easily be proven beyond doubt for $2000 to $3000.

Only an idiot would try to design a high temperature machine to
extrude glass.

A wise man would go into a cold chamber, like a walk-in freezer, and
use heated water and ice chips or ice dust, to build ice panels.

The design I gave here can easily be verified in that environment for
about that much money.

I have driven for miles across windswept frozen lakes in Minnesota
without ever once seeing a crack. There are no cracks because the ice
was built up a few molecules at a time, not cast as a single
monolithic piece.

The differences between cast and floated ice, and extruded ice, can be
examined, and the degree of difference translated to within a
reasonable degree of certainty for an equivalent sized glass panel vs.
a cast or floated glass panel.

feklar

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Apr 2, 2003, 3:24:56 AM4/2/03
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:20:17 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:

>I have driven for miles across windswept frozen lakes in Minnesota
>without ever once seeing a crack. There are no cracks because the ice
>was built up a few molecules at a time, not cast as a single
>monolithic piece.

In the spring, when the ice starts breaking up and then refreezes at
night, I have also seen "side of a semi-trailer" (40 foot) length
sized pieces of one foot thick ice sticking up nearly vertically out
of lakes.

Good for hiding behind, as one goes out at night to shoot muskrats
with a 12 gauge

feklar

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feklar

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10 million people die each year from starvation and malnutrition and
poor living conditions in Africa alone, for every year of delay in the
development and deployment of pyrex greenhouse for food production in
Africa and pyrex housing. Even George Bush admits that a quarter of
the population dies there before reaching the age of five, as a result
of these causes.

Or in other words, 27397.25 people die from starvation and
malnutrition and poor living conditions every day in Africa alone, for
every day of delay in the development and deployment of pyrex
greenhouse for food production in Africa and pyrex housing.

Some retards will pay for this, and considerably.

greg

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Apr 3, 2003, 6:37:43 AM4/3/03
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Where is metallurgy or materials content ? Perhaps this belongs in a poly
sci grroup ?


"feklar" <fek...@rock.com> wrote in message
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Edward D. Vojcak

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fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote in message news:<3e894dac...@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net>...

> On 31 Mar 2003 20:25:24 -0800, edp...@megsinet.net (Edward D. Vojcak)
> wrote:
>
> >People in glass houses (or make believe glass/pyrex houses), shouldn't throw stones!
>
> You are mistaken. I believe the proper corollary is "The Three Little
> Pigs".
>
> >Pyrex Kic <10 ksi in^½
> A layman has no idea what Pyrex Kic
> <10 ksi in^½ might indicate.

ANSWER: Fracture toughness of glass


>
> You should speak in terms the layman can understand since many have
> been invited here to see the assessments. Like how many PSI a
> junkyard car crusher has to apply before it will crush a pyrex block,
> for example, and a comparison to the force it takes for steel.

How is the "PSI" applied? Only a complete novice (as you are)would not
know the difference between pressure and force!

> My favorite example of this is pointing out the strength of
> bulletproof glass in an easily verifiable example, that a lot of
> people are already familiar with: The commander of the ARMY Air Force
> in England in W.W.II said "If Capone and Dillinger can have
> bulletproof glass for their jalopies, then my B-17 bomber crews are
> sure going to have it for their planes"

Ya OK - then all I have to do is make bullets out of glass to
counteract the bulletproof glass???? You are unconscieously
incompetent - you don't even know what you don't know or disply the
ability to learn from theory. I pity you.

>
> Why do you quote a fact or formula when the end product's properties
> have not been assessed as yet? For one, you do not take into
> consideration the new method of combining potassium into the structure
> of the glass, and two you cannot know what the properties of the
> finished product will be, since the crystal matrix will be markedly
> different in nature than with floating or casting.

Really! Please educate me what space group (of the 230 topologically
possible space groups - please see D.E. Sands "Introduction to
crystallography")does this "glass" fit into - Oh BTW glass by
definition is amorphous!

>The internal
> crystal matrix should exhibit far more randomization, and until the
> finished product is available for analysis, there is no way to know
> what the properties will be, except perhaps a supercomputer atomic and
> molecular modeling simulation that takes weeks to write and a month to
> run.

Humm... what your experience with molecular simulation? What bonding
functions do you use?

>
> It sounds like you are considerably far more predisposed to a
> predetermined negative assessment than a detached scientific
> assessment would require. The use of the term "Make believe" is
> probably the most obvious dead giveaway, for those ignorant of the
> underlying mechanical principles of objects. You are disqualified.

Funny my peers don't disqualify me (I'm a P.E.) by the way what's your
qualification aside from having too much time on your hands and too
little wisdom?

Ed Vojcak PE

feklar

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On 3 Apr 2003 22:13:18 -0800, edp...@megsinet.net (Edward D. Vojcak)
wrote:

>> You should speak in terms the layman can understand since many have


>> been invited here to see the assessments. Like how many PSI a
>> junkyard car crusher has to apply before it will crush a pyrex block,
>> for example, and a comparison to the force it takes for steel.
>
>How is the "PSI" applied? Only a complete novice (as you are)would not
>know the difference between pressure and force!

You should speak in terms the layman can understand since many have
been invited here to see the assessments.

>> My favorite example of this is pointing out the strength of
>> bulletproof glass in an easily verifiable example, that a lot of
>> people are already familiar with: The commander of the ARMY Air Force
>> in England in W.W.II said "If Capone and Dillinger can have
>> bulletproof glass for their jalopies, then my B-17 bomber crews are
>> sure going to have it for their planes"
>
>Ya OK - then all I have to do is make bullets out of glass to
>counteract the bulletproof glass???? You are unconscieously
>incompetent - you don't even know what you don't know or disply the
>ability to learn from theory. I pity you.

How you arrived here one can only wonder. It indicates that
artificial intelligence programs have improved, but are still far from
being flawless, and you are an AI program.

I point out that varieties of glass exist that have amazingly strong
properties, and you point out that only Kryponite can kill Superman.

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>> Why do you quote a fact or formula when the end product's properties
>> have not been assessed as yet? For one, you do not take into
>> consideration the new method of combining potassium into the structure
>> of the glass, and two you cannot know what the properties of the
>> finished product will be, since the crystal matrix will be markedly
>> different in nature than with floating or casting.
>
>Really! Please educate me what space group (of the 230 topologically
>possible space groups - please see D.E. Sands "Introduction to
>crystallography")does this "glass" fit into - Oh BTW glass by
>definition is amorphous!

Nice dodge of the question there. If you can't dazzle them with
brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

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Why do you quote a fact or formula when the end product's properties
have not been assessed as yet? For one, you do not take into
consideration the new method of combining potassium into the structure
of the glass, and two you cannot know what the properties of the
finished product will be, since the crystal matrix will be markedly
different in nature than with floating or casting.

>>The internal


>> crystal matrix should exhibit far more randomization, and until the
>> finished product is available for analysis, there is no way to know
>> what the properties will be, except perhaps a supercomputer atomic and
>> molecular modeling simulation that takes weeks to write and a month to
>> run.
>
>Humm... what your experience with molecular simulation? What bonding
>functions do you use?

As if this question has anything more to do with relevance to the
subject at hand than my johnson has to do with saintliness...
Although I admit I haven't been paying attention to the software in
this field, it could well be that there large scale molecular
simulation now exists that runs just fine, or at least acceptably
fast, on a Pentium 2000 mHz.

The Intel 8088 was the only modern CPU designed by humans, by hand.
Since, all CPUs have been designed mostly by other CPUs. The
complexity is such that while man could manually design, without any
computer or AI assistance, say, a pentium 4 chip, it would take him
tens of thousands of years. Obviously you are aware of this, and your
attempting to obfuscate the issue is a valiant effort on your part to
try to complicate this issue to the same level as modern CPU chip
design.

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>> It sounds like you are considerably far more predisposed to a
>> predetermined negative assessment than a detached scientific
>> assessment would require. The use of the term "Make believe" is
>> probably the most obvious dead giveaway, for those ignorant of the
>> underlying mechanical principles of objects. You are disqualified.
>
>Funny my peers don't disqualify me (I'm a P.E.) by the way what's your
>qualification aside from having too much time on your hands and too
>little wisdom?

I am cool. I have many other impressive qualifications, but this is
the only one I need to mention here. I can see where your being a
lamer would incite all of this from you, being insulted by my very
existence as you must be.

I would guess, you would be pissed off because you went to school so
many years and yet I come up with this technology, and you did not.
Except that you would be a lot quicker to brag about your training,
filling the entire bandwidth of the internet with calculations and
formulas that would make Einstein reel back in fear.

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>> It sounds like you are considerably far more predisposed to a
>> predetermined negative assessment than a detached scientific
>> assessment would require. The use of the term "Make believe" is

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It is obvious to a chimpanzee that you are considerably far more


predisposed to a predetermined negative assessment than a detached

scientific assessment would require. Your resorting to obfuscation
and quoting vague references to the general subject which have no
bearing on the discussion (except for the breaking strength of glass,
I would give you that one but it is too easy, even for you, especially
since you decide bring the issue up and then ignore it once it starts
being addressed).

Your subterfuge is more transparent than the glass we (or at least I)
are (am) discussing.

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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:29:28 GMT, fek...@rock.com (feklar) wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:45:52 GMT, html5...@spamyahoo.com
>(toadmonkey) wrote:
>
>>As annoying as an individual, such as yourself, that is too stupid to speak for
>>himself, and instead has to use mp3s to voice his thoughts? Interesting how you
>>only see in others what you really see in yourself.
>
>My heart bleeds for your suffering. Hell I may even decide not to
>reincarnate your ass.

You know, some censorship does't bother me, some does. Some bothers
the gods, some doesn't.

If intelligent people were the ones doing it, it probably wouldn't
bother me at all, but unfortunately I would have to deal with a herd
of retards.

Now Ozzy has the brains to follow all of this, and there is no
interest in censorship other than a suicidal urge for the retards
pulling the shit to flush their destiny down the toilet in the light
of facts that prove they are flushing their destiny down the toilet.

If you really seem to think there is some need for you to try to fuck
my leg like a faggot dog on this particular issue, don't say I didn't
warn you that this was one of the issues that pisses both me and the
gods off. Your lame ass is going to cry later when you realize that
you should have sent me what I demanded out of Ozzy as a
responsibility that went with the territory of being a faggot dog and
preventing Ozzy from seeing it.

I'll save you the trouble of embarrassing yourself further: a google
search shows that numerous groupies, the latest from Ronnie James
Dio's cadre' show up in here, read, and post, asshole. The grapevine
therefore would normally work in here and accomplish the desired end.

Let me guess, part of your problem is ego: I can play the lead to
Crazy Train, and I have been known to do it with my eyes closed
(although I haven't quite nearly returned to that level yet, I have
played it flawlessly in the last month or two with the eyes open.

And you know full well you wouldn't be able to play the rhythm to
"smoke on the water" if you practiced it for 22 years.

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I knew the issue couldn't be attacked, but I would have at least expected
some trolls or grovelling

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> You realize of course, that when replying to this thread you don't
> want to quote the entire original text, I hope...
>


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The third from the last paragraph. Note the date, May 7th, 1999, four years
ago.
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