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Kirby Krieger

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Feb 11, 2003, 7:18:43 AM2/11/03
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Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about breakfast?

No movies please.

Kirby.


Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 11, 2003, 10:42:37 AM2/11/03
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In article <aT52a.4$Fb4....@news.abs.net>,
"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with>
wrote:

Well, I commute. I just eat a small bowl of cereal beforehand, as much
before the ride as possible (usually 15-20 mins).

I know, commuting, but until recently my commute was a 30-minute ride
that kept my HR in the 70-80% range except at stoplights, included
significant hills, and I would do occasional intervals just for fun.

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ronde champ

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Feb 11, 2003, 10:58:58 AM2/11/03
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"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote
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> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about
breakfast?

When I was training, I used to ride early (6am) before work. With AVA by
the way. And I'd always be late because there would be some kind of soft
core porn on Skinamax or Blowtime. Anyway, if the ride time is going to be
less than 2 hours, you'll just need a cup of coffee and you'll be fine.
Only pussies need breakfast.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ


Dominic Richens

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Feb 11, 2003, 12:22:39 PM2/11/03
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"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote:
> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning?

Well, I commute 20 km in 40 minutes at around 7:30 (not today, its -35
degrees with windchill))

> What do you do about breakfast?

I eat it. Not very scientific. Usually whatever my kids are eating. After
showering at work, I usually have a muffin.

> No movies please.

No problem.

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Mike S.

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Feb 11, 2003, 12:29:35 PM2/11/03
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"ronde champ" <ronde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I read/heard somewhere that you "burn more fat" if you ride in the AM
without eating first. Something about using your reserves, not the food you
just ate. The figure 30% comes to mind, but don't quote me.

If you're replenishing your energy stores properly and for shorter rides,
you don't really need to eat before-hand (no matter WHAT triathletes say!).

Now coffee is another story!

Anyone else?

Johan

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Feb 11, 2003, 2:07:39 PM2/11/03
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"ronde champ" <ronde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<b2b6kp$3g6$1...@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>...

This morning it was "Sex and the Autopsy". Saw a story on some
bacteriologist from Florida who was working on TB in the '30's. His
girlfriend died from it. Needless to say, he was bummed. So first he
had a death mask made of her face. Then he had her put in a
mausoleum, so he could work next to her. After that got old, he took
her out, dressed her in a wedding gown and placed her in his bed. He
would replace any decayed skin with waxed silk. And of course, no
dead bride is complete w/o a vaginal tube.

Until today, "Live Nude Girls Unite" - the story of unionizing
strippers in San Francisco might have been the best pre-a.m. ride HBO
movie.

your welcome

johan

Andrew Martin

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Feb 11, 2003, 2:11:00 PM2/11/03
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"ronde champ" <ronde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<b2b6kp$3g6$1...@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>...
> "Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote
> in message news:aT52a.4$Fb4....@news.abs.net...
> > Does anyone work out first thing in the morning?
>
> When I was training, I used to ride early (6am) before work. With AVA by
> the way. And I'd always be late because there would be some kind of soft
> core porn on Skinamax or Blowtime.

RC - One Armed intervals does not qualify as training.

Andrew Martin

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Feb 11, 2003, 2:49:42 PM2/11/03
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"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote in message news:<aT52a.4$Fb4....@news.abs.net>...
> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about breakfast?
>
> No movies please.
>
> Kirby.

No breakfast needed. Second hand report that Hamsten used to go for 6
hour "starvation" rides without breakfast at very slow pace to drop
weight. I think 90 min with some intensity is about my max.

a

ronde champ

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Feb 11, 2003, 2:49:37 PM2/11/03
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It is if your dick is as big as mine.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ


Stewart Fleming

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Feb 11, 2003, 3:39:25 PM2/11/03
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Johan wrote:
>
> This morning it was "Sex and the Autopsy". Saw a story on some


Here in New Zealand, it is still easier to schedule training in the
evenings. It doesn't get dark down here until 9:30pm still. No soft
porn on the TV either. Mornings are for sleeping, although I
occasionally have a roll in bed with honey.
STF

John Forrest Tomlinson

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Feb 11, 2003, 6:51:49 PM2/11/03
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"Stewart Fleming" <drm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mornings are for sleeping, although I
> occasionally have a roll in bed with honey.

Is that Manuka honey or some kind of sex thing?

JT

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Lindsay Rowlands

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Feb 11, 2003, 7:52:45 PM2/11/03
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Kirby Krieger <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote:
: Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about breakfast?

Yep! The bulk of my rides are 0630 to 0730 and I don't have anything to eat, just some water on the ride.
I do however, make a point of having muesli with fresh fruit and rice milk within 15 minutes of getting
off the bike to take advantage the glycogen uptake window.

I participate in a 1.5 hour early ride Saturday mornings and usually have half a banana before I leave
and again have breakfast as soon as I can afterwards.

On Sundays I have a 2.5 hour early ride starting with a full banana and I take a fruit bar which I eat at
the half way mark - breakfast as usual.

One of the hardcore vets I ride with never has breakfast before a ride, even centuries, and in the annual
Grafton to Inverell race (223km) he only consumes sports drinks - no food and he's come second in his
agegroup a few times.. This is a gruelling uphill event with many non-finishers so he has my utmost
respect and no doubt he has taken a number of years to fine tune what works for him.

As far as breakfast goes, remember that if you eat and then get into intense exercise you may experience
discomfort since body resources are redirected to supply oxygen and fuel to muscles rather than digestive
processes. So you'd probably feel a bit queasy and fart a lot! The fuel you need is available as glycogen
stored in muscles and the liver and is usually good for the first hour or so. Breakfast won't become
available as fuel until it is processed so energy bars, etc, are ideal for keeping the supply topped up.

Hope this helps.
Cheerz,
Lynzz

Dave

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Feb 11, 2003, 9:16:59 PM2/11/03
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I do early morning workouts too. I ride at 5:15am, usually about 35
miles before work. I generally put down a banana before I leave the
house, utually with a small cup of juice. The a 15 minute car ride to
the ride start (you don't want to ride from my house in the dark - it's
suicide), then 10 mins getting the bike out, and during the ride, I use
only water and Emergen'C (electrolyte supplement).

Post ride, I'll have either a bowl of fiber cereal or a Clif bar,
usually within 30 mins of finishing the ride. Then normal feeding
pattern for the rest of the day.

Dave


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Mapei81

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Feb 11, 2003, 10:31:55 PM2/11/03
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>Is that Manuka honey or some kind of sex thing?
>
>JT

Please post in the appropriate newsgroup. Read the FAQ.

John Forrest Tomlinson

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Feb 11, 2003, 11:02:26 PM2/11/03
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"Mapei81" <map...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Is that Manuka honey or some kind of sex thing?
> >
> >JT
>
> Please post in the appropriate newsgroup. Read the FAQ.

Pre-training diet and, er, warmup, are entirely appropriate for this
group.

Bruce Johnston

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Feb 12, 2003, 1:10:15 AM2/12/03
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I still do six hour starvation rides in the mountains. Well not totally
since I drink cytomax and accelerade, but no breakfast or lunch. I did that
for years, and lost far too much weight riding nearly everyday. I eat better
now, but still do the 6 hour starvation rides but not as frequent. 6 hours
won't kill anybody, but I would eat, it's just that I can't tolerate any
food during my rides. Never could. My stomach sort of shuts down during
riding and doesn't really tolerate any food. Skipping breafast is no big
deal. Feels much better to eat after your morning ride. My body doesn't seem
to like too many processes going on either. I think my legs want all the
blood and won't share any with my stomach. My stomach can barely tolerate
water sometimes. I try to keep my fluid consumption down to just what I need
or my stomach starts to complain. That is especially hard on hot days with a
cranky stomach.

Skip breakfast and wait for brunch!

Bruce
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Per Elmsäter

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Feb 12, 2003, 8:23:46 AM2/12/03
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"ronde champ" <ronde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Only if you hang a 5 gallon bucket of water over it and do kneebends.

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Ken Papai

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Feb 12, 2003, 10:03:33 AM2/12/03
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"Kirby Krieger" <mynameet...

> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about
breakfast?

Skip it? Or, eat a power bar or 3 slices of toast, then
chow down at the office (31 miles away).


>
> No movies please.
>
> Kirby.
>
>


heather halvorson

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Feb 12, 2003, 11:08:55 AM2/12/03
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Kirby Krieger wrote:
>
> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about breakfast?

re: working out-i always eat first, but, when i have to be at a race
start at 7:30 am, i like those liquid meals (spiz, sustained energy,
slim fast). they can taste gross, though.

but i get dizzy and nauseated if i don't eat very regularly, sounds like
other people don't have this prob.
h

Veloflash

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Feb 12, 2003, 11:13:21 AM2/12/03
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"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote in message news:<aT52a.4$Fb4....@news.abs.net>...
> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about breakfast?
>
> No movies please.
>
> Kirby.

Preferable to ride in afternoon for the following reasons -

1. Testing (Japanese I recall) revealed that afternoon training
provided greater gains in V02max compared to morning training.

2. The body is at its strongest when core temperature heats up. The
difference between strength at rising temperature and normal
temperature was tested to be 11%. At around 4.00pm/5.00pm is the
optimal time.

3. Training raises the rate of metabolism. Metabolism rate is at its
lowest during sleep so any elevated rate during sleep through training
later in the day provides weight reduction benefits.

4. You wont be yawning in the afternoon.

ronde champ

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Feb 12, 2003, 11:23:32 AM2/12/03
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> i like those liquid meals (spiz). they can taste gross, though.

The above sentence is very funny, if you know what I mean.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ


heather halvorson

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Feb 12, 2003, 11:41:10 AM2/12/03
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yeah yeah, we actually refer to it as jizz around here.

i didn't want to tell kirby to try jizz, though.

h- losing any minute chance to ever be sponsored by a liquid meal
replacement manufacturer.

ronde champ

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>
>
> ronde champ wrote:
> >
> > "heather halvorson" <clevisrem...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3E4A7197...@attbi.com...
> >
> > > i like those liquid meals (spiz). they can taste gross, though.
> >
> > The above sentence is very funny, if you know what I mean.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ronde Champ
>
> yeah yeah, we actually refer to it as jizz around here.

I've heard many women (and Mike Jones) complain that it can taste funny.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ


Stewart Fleming

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Feb 12, 2003, 2:27:53 PM2/12/03
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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> "Stewart Fleming" <drm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>Mornings are for sleeping, although I
>>occasionally have a roll in bed with honey.
>
>
> Is that Manuka honey or some kind of sex thing?
>
> JT

Manuka Gorge is about 50km south of here, but I prefer the stuff my
triathlete mate gets me from Oamaru.

Accordng to heart guru Sally Edwards, sex doesn't count as a workout,
your HR doesn't get high enough, not even if you do interval repeats.
STF

ronde champ

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"Stewart Fleming" <drm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Accordng to heart guru Sally Edwards, sex doesn't count as a workout,

It does if you have to chase the bitch down.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ

Jeff Jones

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Feb 12, 2003, 4:29:43 PM2/12/03
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"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote in message news:<aT52a.4$Fb4....@news.abs.net>...
> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about breakfast?
>
Depends on the length of the ride. For anything under three hours,
without too many intervals, then I can get away with little or no
breakfast e.g. grapefruit + some caffeinated beverage.

For anything much over that and/or with a fair bit of intensity, then
breakfast is important. A bowl of porrige with fruit + some
caffeinated beverage generally works for me, even if I only have a 40
minute window between getting out of bed and getting out the door. I
have gotten out of that habit because the first 10-15 km can be a bit
uncomfortable if I'm chasing to get onto the bunch, but having
breakfast is worth it later on.

cheers,
Jeff

Speedy

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Feb 12, 2003, 10:46:03 PM2/12/03
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During the week I have a big glass of water & a Flash-5 bar www.flash-5.com
& I'm good to go full tilt just a few minutes later. Very easily digested.

Race day I have a CytoMax Preformance shake 2hours before & a F-5 an hour
before.

Cheers,

Paul "Speedy" Gonsalves

"Kirby Krieger" <myn...@toad.dought.the.thing.you.catch.fishes.with> wrote
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> Does anyone work out first thing in the morning? What do you do about
breakfast?
>

> No movies please.
>
> Kirby.
>
>


Kirby Krieger

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Feb 12, 2003, 9:37:08 PM2/12/03
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Does anyone have the Japanese citation? or is this common knowledge?

Likewise point two -- not to doubt Veloflash, but can anyone confirm #2? It does match my
experience. A more subtle question is, even though strength is diminished, does training then have
less of an effect? In other words, see #1.

Simple query: what is the best time of day to train? Why?

Kirby.

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Dan

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"ronde champ" <ronde...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<b2e7l9$qdo$1...@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>...

Coffee just shot out of my nose.

Missed the keyboard though.

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