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Neal Stevens

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Oct 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/15/99
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Smoke on the horizon, Kapitan!"

Although it first came out in 1993 as a DOS sim, then later was upgraded to a
Win 95 sim with voice recognition, Command Aces of the Deep continues to thrive
as a cult favorite. With the release of Silent Hunter II still months away, we
pulled the classic Command Aces of the Deep from the shelf and served several
tours of duty. With a few tweaks, CAOD will run fine on Win 98 and with PCs that
sport 64+ MB RAM (see the T&T section for help).

Look for an updated review of an old favorite at SUBSIM Review.
www.subsim.com

Neal Stevens

Scotty

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Oct 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/17/99
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> >
> If you know tweaks that will make AotD run in Win98, please share them
> with us here and now, because no one else has been able to do it. :)
> (One guy on this newsgroup claimed he could but he never responded
> when asked how.)
>

From what I hear, AOD will NOT run under Win98's dos .... I personally
I'm not 100% sure, as I run win95 (there is no reason on this earth to
upgrade from win95 to 98... nothing runs better on 98 than 95) ....
There is a possable way to havwe windows 98 and run AOD, but you'll
need a program call3ed system commander (I used to run it), you can run
multiple Operating systems with it, I used to have both Dos 6.22 and
Windows 95 on my system at once.. System commander loads up on boot, and
asks witch one you want to run.. simple..

Running AOD Dos (either floppy or CD) in dos under windows 95 can be
tricky... you have to load mouse and CD (if you have the DOS CD ver)
drivers for dos... have extended memory working, Memaker is sometimes
required for certain dos games.. Aces Over Europe was notorious for
needing lots of lower mem, like 609k, memaker would get 612-620 with it,
and 624-634/635 with QEMM... (thos old DOS days were sure fun, but not
very user friendly if you was new to it)...

I don't have much info on my u-boat/Aces of the Deep page
http://www.abcs.com/kraut/aodtip.html
I haven't done much to it in a year or so... been so buisy. I used to be
the onlyone who had the expansion for download online, but I see Neal
Stevens has it up on his sight also.. good work, more people should have
it for download I would think.. you can not get it anywere, unless you
have the Win95 CAOD that has it built riught in the game.

I'm sure there could be a way to get AOD Dos to work somehow with
Windows 98 dos.. I know of no one who has though.

Scotty

Steve_148

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:44:36 -0500, Scotty <kr...@pop.abcs.com> wrote:


> I'm sure there could be a way to get AOD Dos to work somehow with
>Windows 98 dos.. I know of no one who has though.
>

I had it running just two days ago with win98 dos mode (I mean
rebooting to Dos7.x). My problem is that I have a SB Live! sound card
and for the card to work in SB16 emulation mode I have to run
emm386.exe. AOD won't run with emm386.exe loaded. I can run it with no
sound, but I don't like it that way. Here's the settings I used to get
it to run. AOD runs in protected mode.

rem config.sys
Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
rem DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
FILES=30
BUFFERS=20
lastdrive=h

rem autoexec.bat
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT$p$g
C:\Mouse\Mouse.exe /z /q
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
SET COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM


email:steve_148 at usa dot net


Hi...@potowmacnet.com

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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Hi...@potowmacnet.com

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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Neal, don't want to seem like I am ragging on AoD, I'm not - it's my
favorite sub game. I'm just not a fan of CAoD for the reasons I
mentioned and because that's what Dynamix gave us instead of AoD-II.


Scott D. Orr

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:44:36 -0500, Scotty <kr...@pop.abcs.com> wrote:

>> >
>> If you know tweaks that will make AotD run in Win98, please share them
>> with us here and now, because no one else has been able to do it. :)
>> (One guy on this newsgroup claimed he could but he never responded
>> when asked how.)
>>
>
> From what I hear, AOD will NOT run under Win98's dos .... I personally
>I'm not 100% sure, as I run win95 (there is no reason on this earth to
>upgrade from win95 to 98... nothing runs better on 98 than 95) ....
> There is a possable way to havwe windows 98 and run AOD, but you'll
>need a program call3ed system commander (I used to run it), you can run
>multiple Operating systems with it, I used to have both Dos 6.22 and
>Windows 95 on my system at once.. System commander loads up on boot, and
>asks witch one you want to run.. simple..
>

You don't actually need System Commander to do this--Win95 already
supports it. But you can't do it in Win98, unless you failed to
convert your hard drives to FAT32. DOS (real DOS, as opposed to Win98
DOS emulation) won't handle the FAT32 drives.

The FAT32 of course is one big reason for upgrading to Win98, unless
you have the "B" release of Win95, which was OEM only (that is, you
can't buy it as an upgrade). USB support is another reason (again,
95B also has that.)

> I'm sure there could be a way to get AOD Dos to work somehow with
>Windows 98 dos.. I know of no one who has though.
>

Well, one guy in this newsgroup _claimed_ he had done it, but when
asked to explain how he never replied.

Scott Orr

Scott D. Orr

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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>I had it running just two days ago with win98 dos mode (I mean
>rebooting to Dos7.x). My problem is that I have a SB Live! sound card
>and for the card to work in SB16 emulation mode I have to run
>emm386.exe. AOD won't run with emm386.exe loaded. I can run it with no
>sound, but I don't like it that way. Here's the settings I used to get
>it to run. AOD runs in protected mode.
>

You probably aren't missing anything--sound is the one thing nobody
can get it to run in Win98.

Scott Orr

Steve_148

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:22:08 GMT, sd...@ix.netcom.com (Scott D. Orr)
wrote:


>You probably aren't missing anything--sound is the one thing nobody
>can get it to run in Win98.
>
>Scott Orr

I deleted it. Think I'll just wait for SH2.

Guy

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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Same here with my SB PCI64 I can get it to run in MS DOS mode but not with
sound. I very briefly got it to go in MS DOS prompt with sound in Win 98 DX
6.1 but it started to crash and I haven't bothered again. By the way would
installing a eisa SB card muck up my port settings etc. I ask as I have a
spare eisa slot now as I recently upgraded to a pci modem.

Guy

Steve_148 <nos...@home.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:44:36 -0500, Scotty <kr...@pop.abcs.com> wrote:
>
>
> > I'm sure there could be a way to get AOD Dos to work somehow with
> >Windows 98 dos.. I know of no one who has though.
> >
>
> I had it running just two days ago with win98 dos mode (I mean
> rebooting to Dos7.x). My problem is that I have a SB Live! sound card
> and for the card to work in SB16 emulation mode I have to run
> emm386.exe. AOD won't run with emm386.exe loaded. I can run it with no
> sound, but I don't like it that way. Here's the settings I used to get
> it to run. AOD runs in protected mode.
>

> rem config.sys
> Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
> rem DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
> DOS=HIGH,UMB
> FILES=30
> BUFFERS=20
> lastdrive=h
>
> rem autoexec.bat
> @ECHO OFF
> PROMPT$p$g
> C:\Mouse\Mouse.exe /z /q
> PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
> SET COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM
>
>
>
>

Steve_148

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:11:21 +1300, "Guy" <gard...@voyager.co.nz>
wrote:

> By the way would
>installing a eisa SB card muck up my port settings etc. I ask as I have a
>spare eisa slot now as I recently upgraded to a pci modem.

You mean having the SBPCI64 and a SBISA16 installed at the same time?
Or do you mean having just the ISA card installed?

Scott D. Orr

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:11:21 +1300, "Guy" <gard...@voyager.co.nz>
wrote:

>Same here with my SB PCI64 I can get it to run in MS DOS mode but not with


>sound. I very briefly got it to go in MS DOS prompt with sound in Win 98 DX

>6.1 but it started to crash and I haven't bothered again. By the way would


>installing a eisa SB card muck up my port settings etc. I ask as I have a
>spare eisa slot now as I recently upgraded to a pci modem.
>

Even using a Soundblaster, I can't get sound in Win98 with AotD.

Scott Orr

Guy

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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>
> You mean having the SBPCI64 and a SBISA16 installed at the same time?
> Or do you mean having just the ISA card installed?
>
>
> email:steve_148 at usa dot net
>I would be interested in having both as the PCI is OK for me except for dos
games that don't like himem.sys or emm 386. I remember a CGW mag having 2
cards in some of its dream machine rigs and wondered if I would be buying
alot of grief if I tried to run both together. Not at the same time of
course.
Guy.

Steve_148

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:36:17 +1300, "Guy" <gard...@voyager.co.nz>
wrote:


>>I would be interested in having both as the PCI is OK for me except for dos
>games that don't like himem.sys or emm 386. I remember a CGW mag having 2
>cards in some of its dream machine rigs and wondered if I would be buying
>alot of grief if I tried to run both together. Not at the same time of
>course.
>Guy.
>
>

Well, I did that with a Diamond MX200 and a SB16, but the MX200 had a
passthrough cable specifically for doing that. I guess you can do it
so long as neither card shares resources and just switch speakers
around.

Scott D. Orr

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:57:09 GMT, nos...@home.ca (Steve_148) wrote:

>Well, I did that with a Diamond MX200 and a SB16, but the MX200 had a
>passthrough cable specifically for doing that. I guess you can do it
>so long as neither card shares resources and just switch speakers
>around.
>

I've got two sound cards in my machine--both an SB16 and a Phillips
VideoEasy vid capture card, which is also a sound card. The latter
never gets used, but the computer knows it's there.

Scott Orr

Alien@404th.com Alien

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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The DOS version of AoD still had plenty of bugs too. I had occasions when
I'd be submerged, have a ship pass overhead and get all the nice engine
noises, and then not be able to get rid of the noise until I returned to
base or (sometimes) submerged again. Loved the game though in spite of this
and other bugs.

<Hi...@Potowmacnet.com> wrote in message
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> sub...@houston.rr.com (Neal Stevens) wrote:
>
> > As for buggy, I dispute that claim. I have installed and run CAOD on
> > at least ten systems and they all ran the sim fine.
>
> then later
>
> > And you're right, the engine sounds in CAOD don't vary and often cut
> > out. >
>
> I call that cutting out buggy. <g>
>
> > I'm running CAOD on my systems, one is a
> > Pentium 120 with Win 95 and the other is a Pentium 500 with Win 98. I
> > can send a screenshot for proof, if needed.
>
> Proof for what? Did I dispute something there?
>

Hi...@potowmacnet.com

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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"Alien" <XX Al...@404th.com> wrote:

> Loved the game though in spite of this
> and other bugs.

Agreed. It's the best of what is out there.


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