Old Roy Dog Food
LuSwinton
I have nine dogs - my sister has 24 - we feed them Ol Roy and have for some
time. Now after reading these posts, I am very concerned. Please would you
give me some brands that you would feed your own dogs. If I had only one or
two, it would not be so bad, but since between us, my sister and I have 33 dogs
that we have rescued (abandoned/strays/throwaways) we have been buying Ol Roy.
I will not do this any more I will change their feed but need help in deciding.
Would appreciate your e-mailing me.
Thanks,
Jean
(LuSw...@aol.com)
jean
dc...@postoffice.swbell.net
LuSwinton wrote:
> I have nine dogs - my sister has 24 - we feed them Ol Roy and have for some
> time. Now after reading these posts, I am very concerned. Please would you
> give me some brands that you would feed your own dogs. If I had only one or
> two, it would not be so bad, but since between us, my sister and I have 33 dogs
> that we have rescued (abandoned/strays/throwaways) we have been buying Ol Roy.
I feed mine Solid Gold, although I am beginning to see a negative pattern with lamb
and rice formulas in my dog, so I will be switching back to Precise as soon as
this bag is gone.
I'd honestly think just about anything would be better than Old Roy, including the
relatively inexpensive Purina Dog Chow. I know you have financial concerns with
rescuing 33 dogs, so you might want to strike a balance between "ultra premium" and
"baked cardboard". Note, I am not recommending Purina Dog Chow, but it _has_ to be
better than Old Roy. Maybe you could call purina and get a bulk rate for rescue
dogs. I like their Purina One/Pro Plan foods. Of course you cold become a
distributor for one of the "ultra premium" type foods, and sell the food to
subsidize feeding your dogs.
I go the extra mile with my dog food, but I only have one dog so it's not much of a
financial strain.
dc potts
biologist at large
lau...@uic.edu
If cost is a concern but you would like to feed a better food, you might
want to try Purina Lamb and Rice Formula Dog Chow. If you watch your
local stores, you can catch it on sale for a fairly decent price. I
like it better than regular dog chow because the recommended feeding
size is comparable to that of the premium dog foods (like science diet),
so there is substantially less poop to pick up. On Ol Roy, you have to
feed the dogs a whole lot at a serving, so the food is probably not as
much of a bargain as you might think.
Tatiana
LuSwinton wrote:
>
> I have nine dogs - my sister has 24 - we feed them Ol Roy and have for some
> time. Now after reading these posts, I am very concerned. Please would you
> give me some brands that you would feed your own dogs. If I had only one or
> two, it would not be so bad, but since between us, my sister and I have 33 dogs
> that we have rescued (abandoned/strays/throwaways) we have been buying Ol Roy.
>
michael garner
Can somebody post the nutritional info from the back of an Old Roy bag? I am
curious.
Faithdobes
am curious.<
Corn....junk...fillers...hehe
Faith Picos
DPCA COPE RESCUE Member
DOBERMAN PINSCHER RESCUE
sue sanchez
very seriously. Consumer Reports magazine, by far the MOST REPUTABLE
source of consumer information found Old Roy to be perfectly adequate.
at our rescue, we have used Old Roy and many, many other brades
successfully for year.
i suggest that you observe if your dogs are thriving on Old Roy - - and
if so, don't be concerned unless your vet actually determines a
condition requiring a special diet.
why is it that some users are so adament about "grocery store" dog food
? i have seen this phenomena for years. imho, some are merely misguided
dog-lovers with poor understanding, but great distrust of science and
technology. hence their attraction to so-called "natural food".
others, are "shills" for "premium" dog food companies, using usenet to
promote their products which are of doubtful advantage or even utility.
frankly, others may be profoundly deluded. writers who claim they can
tell what dog food was fed by the way the dog WALKS are out of touch
with our shared reality.
LuSwinton wrote:
>
> I have nine dogs - my sister has 24 - we feed them Ol Roy and have for some
> time. Now after reading these posts, I am very concerned. Please would you
> give me some brands that you would feed your own dogs. If I had only one or
> two, it would not be so bad, but since between us, my sister and I have 33 dogs
> that we have rescued (abandoned/strays/throwaways) we have been buying Ol Roy.
>
> I will not do this any more I will change their feed but need help in deciding.
> Would appreciate your e-mailing me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jean
>
> (LuSw...@aol.com)
> jean
--
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On 1998-07-06 mtga...@berlin.sireco.net said:
>Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health
>Can somebody post the nutritional info from the back of an Old Roy
>bag? I am curious.
I kinda doubt that anyone here feeds their dogs that trash, hence no
empty bags to quote from.
Bob K
williams
dog). The vet put him on Predinizone a few months ago to control what appears to be
a huge hot spot across his chest. I've had to increase the Pred 4 times. The vet wants
to try a diet consisting of potatoes and duck or potatoes and venison. Of course the
food would have to be bought from the vet (according to him). He thinks the hot spot is
an allergic reaction to something in his food.
any suggestions???
KaliServ
Hi, I have a rescue dog also who is around 8 years old. He had a severe food
allergy which was not diagnosed until he went into "foster care." His tummy
was also bald and one big hotspot. After his foster mom changed his diet to
"Sensible Choice Lamb & Rice", his hotspots went away. I think it took 1-2
months.
He was also on "pred" and various other drugs. None of them helped. From what I
understand these allergy drugs only work for a small percentage of dogs.
If you decide to change his diet give it a few weeks. Some dogs do not respond
to diet changes right away. I dont know much about the potato/duck/venison diet
so I'm not sure if you can buy it any where other then your vet.
Good luck with your Bullie! :)
Lyda
Lyda & Buddy aka. Mr.Stink , you an visit us at
http://members.tripod.com/~SilkyGirl/silkyindex.html
(the yellow screen is a pop-up, just click it down)
Trish or Brodie
help alleviate itching/scratching from air borne allergies.
Trish
Thalocean
higher in protien. I have healthy dogs with shiny coats, firm stools and no
anal gland problems and they eat Ol'Roy. (They don't walk any differently
either ;-)
Toni
>Has anyone tried the fish and potato kibble? It
>has been suggested to me to help alleviate
>itching/scratching from air borne allergies.
that manifests in irritable bowel syndrome. She seems to do well on it,
and aside from the $2 per pound (She eats upwards of 15 cups per day)
and fish breath I have no problem with it. The bag does state that it is
a temporary food, and although I have been advised that long term is ok,
I am slowly adding fresh veggies and do plan to try and get her off it
eventually.
Faithdobes
Toni
>15 cups per day...YIKES that's a lot of food!
MaryBeth
KaliServ wrote in message
<199807082045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>My English Bulldog is about 8 years old (guessing his age because he is a
>>rescue
>>dog). The vet put him on Predinizone a few months ago to control what
appears
>>to be
>>a huge hot spot across his chest. I've had to increase the Pred 4 times.
The
>>vet wants
>>to try a diet consisting of potatoes and duck or potatoes and venison. Of
>>course the
>>food would have to be bought from the vet (according to him). He thinks
the
>>hot spot is
>>an allergic reaction to something in his food.
>>
>>any suggestions???
I know my Golden, Rudy, used to have terrible hotspots year round. Frontline
helped with the fleas, in the summer, but we switched to Avoderm food for
his sensitive skin, and he hasn't had any hotspots in about 2 years now. I
have also heard good things about Innova, tho don't have any experience with
it. Avoderm can be found at Petcos in some areas of the US...not around here
tho...I have to ship mine in, and it costs just about as much to ship as it
is for the food, but well worth it to me :)
If you are interested, let me know, I am not affiliated with the company,
just a very satisfied customer :)
MaryBeth
marb...@ix.netcom.com
Chris Kosmakos
: we switched to Avoderm food for
: his sensitive skin, and he hasn't had any hotspots in about 2 years now. I
: have also heard good things about Innova, tho don't have any experience with
: it.
The same company that makes Innova has a 2nd brand, California Natural, that
is great for dogs with allergies. 4 ingredients, no wheat, soy, corn, etc.
Their web site is www.naturapet.com. I also recommend AvoDerm for dry skin,
dermatitis and sensitive skin.
Lynn K.
--
chri...@netcom.com
Chris Kosmakos
: if i were you i wouldn't take this stuff about Old Roy being inadequate
: very seriously. Consumer Reports magazine, by far the MOST REPUTABLE
: source of consumer information found Old Roy to be perfectly adequate.
Heh. Consumers Reports got NAILED for that article and had to retract
most of it. Check their web site.
Lynn K.
--
chri...@netcom.com
MaryBeth
I *thought* it had been you that told me about the other food but wasn't
sure.
I am even to the point with Rudy now that I mix almost 1/2 & 1/2 with
Ceilidh's food in with the Avoderm, and still no problems. Gotta keep an eye
on him tho, especially around the groin area, where he seems to get the
hotspots first. Loses all the hair there and gets really sore looking. But
luckily, as I said, since switching to Avo and Frontline for fleas, haven't
seen a single hot spot in over two years.
MaryBeth
Chris Kosmakos wrote in message ...
sue sanchez
please re-read the retraction carefully. it does NOT affect the evaluation of
Old Roy or any other food they previously recommended.
Lisa A. Hadler
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<199807060408...@ladder01.news.aol.c q
In a previous article,
chri...@netcom.com (Chris Kosmakos) says:
>sue sanchez (st_...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: if i were you i wouldn't take this stuff about Old Roy being inadequate
>: very seriously. Consumer Reports magazine, by far the MOST REPUTABLE
>: source of consumer information found Old Roy to be perfectly adequate.
>
>Heh. Consumers Reports got NAILED for that article and had to retract
>most of it. Check their web site.
What the article basically measured was whether dog food would keep your
dog alive. Anything above and beyond that was considered superfluous.
Well, Ol' Roy will keep your dog alive, that is, it is food in a sense.
But the question of quality was never really addressed. I work as a
consumer advocate, and that was one of the worse articles of the kind
I'ce ever read. And the retraction didn't help much.
--
Our lives begin to end the day we are silent about things that matter.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Chris Kosmakos
: What the article basically measured was whether dog food would keep your
: dog alive. Anything above and beyond that was considered superfluous.
: Well, Ol' Roy will keep your dog alive, that is, it is food in a sense.
: But the question of quality was never really addressed. I work as a
: consumer advocate, and that was one of the worse articles of the kind
: I'ce ever read. And the retraction didn't help much.
Yup - and I question whether some foods would even keep lactating
bitches or working dogs alive. I saw some of the correspondence between
Consumer Reports and U.C. Davis Vet school after the article, and what
is most frustrating about the retraction was that they had the information
at hand to really correct their mistakes and basically bungled it.
Lynn K.
--
chri...@netcom.com
DollyH
was better than OR.
sue sanchez
conducted. AAFCO feed tests are conducted ON "lactating
bitches and working dogs" if the food is approved for all stages or for those
stages.
since this information is readily available at (for example)
http://www.iams.com/fftfb/LIBRARY/FFTTB/50r.htm
one can only conclude that a person that expresses opinions such as yours is
seriously deluded or pathetically stupid.
no offense intended , of course.
Chris Kosmakos
: one can only conclude that a person that expresses opinions such as yours is
: seriously deluded or pathetically stupid.
: no offense intended , of course.
You have every right in the world to feed the dogs in your rescue something
I would hesitate to use as mulch, but I'm hardly about to switch my
search and rescue dog to it. I believe our goals are different. What
isn't clear is the motivation behind your attitude.
Lynn K.
krei...@mail.sunlink.net
On 1998-07-13 laha...@prairienet.org(LisaA.Hadler) said:
>And the retraction didn't help much. --
You've got that right! A guy at work has a Shepherd bitch that
he wants to rehome. Sad story, but he is on the right track.
Anyway, he read the CR article, and since he wanted the best
for Duchess, he started feeding her Ol' Roy. Now, some months
later, Duchess has all these skin problems. I'd say it's due to
a lack of fatty acids. I told him to get something else to feed
her. I like Purina ONE Lamb & Rice, but there are certainly other
good foods. Ol' Roy ain't one of them. I wonder how much damage
the CR article must have done.
Bob K
Toni
feed my dogs. A human could "survive" on McDonald's food, but would not
have zest, a long life free of degenerative disease, nor an optimumly
functioning immune system. A dog with such a lack of quality nutrition
is open season on any little pathogen that comes its way. Small ear
infections become systemic, skin disease takes over, and so on.....
SURVIVE and THRIVE are vastly different terms.
krei...@mail.sunlink.net
On 1998-07-15 tm...@webtv.net(Toni) said:
>A dog with such a lack of
>quality nutrition is open season on any little pathogen that comes
>its way. Small ear infections become systemic, skin disease takes
>over, and so on.....
And that's exactly what happened to my buddy's Shepherd! Now she
has ear mites, and skin problems in the "underarm" area, and
around the eyes. Vet bill was $108, which was fair, but Ol' Roy
turned out to be one damn expensive food, and the dog was in quite
a bit of discomfort.
Bob K
sue sanchez
lynn, unfortunately you know nothing about how AAFCO feed tests are actually
conducted. AAFCO feed tests are conducted ON "lactating
bitches and working dogs" if the food is approved for all stages or for those
stages.
since this information is readily available at (for example)
http://www.iams.com/fftfb/LIBRARY/FFTTB/50r.htm
one can only conclude that a person that expresses opinions such as yours is
seriously deluded or pathetically stupid.
no offense intended , of course.
misinformation such as that which you spread about AFCO feeding tests reduces the
credibility of all information posted here. try learning about something before
expressing an opinion.
Chris Kosmakos wrote:
--
st roch dog rescue "serving people and dogs of all faiths and no faith"
Chris Kosmakos
:
: misinformation such as that which you spread about AFCO feeding tests reduces the
: credibility of all information posted here. try learning about something before
: expressing an opinion.
I think you are in serious need of a reading comprehension course. I made
no reference at all to the AAFCO feed tests. You are the only one who
has mentioned it at all. I never expressed any opinion at all about the
testing process. The only opinion I ever expressed was while Old Roy
might sustain a dog, I doubt that it would meet my needs for performance
nutrition for my working dog.
Lynn K.
Jay
sue sanchez wrote in message <35B37E06...@geocities.com>...
here's why:
lynn, unfortunately you know nothing about how AAFCO feed tests are actually
conducted. AAFCO feed tests are conducted ON "lactating
bitches and working dogs" if the food is approved for all stages or for those
stages.
since this information is readily available at (for example)
http://www.iams.com/fftfb/LIBRARY/FFTTB/50r.htm
one can only conclude that a person that expresses opinions such as yours is
seriously deluded or pathetically stupid.
no offense intended , of course.
misinformation such as that which you spread about AFCO feeding tests reduces the
credibility of all information posted here. try learning about something before
expressing an opinion.