Nazarene Judaism
James Trimm
>From: lev...@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
>Don't e-mail me bullchips. Every Xian group traces itself to
>32 C.E.
Nazarene Judaism is more correctly a Jewish group. This may help you
distinguish it from the 666,000 sects of Christendom which make such a
claim.
>Who created the organization known as "Nazarene Judaism" based in
>Texas? When was this organization created? What are its
>principles of faith.
Nazarene Judaism (Acts 24:5) is the Jewish portion of the one true
Body of Messiah (Rom. 12:5; 1Cor. 12:12-13; Eph. 4:4) which was founded by
the Messiah (Mt. 16:18). Since new Believers were "added" to it in 32 CE
(Acts 2:41, 47) it may have existed from the foundations of the earth
(Rev. 13:8; Eccl. 1:9-10; 3:14-15) but only been revealed in 32 CE (Col.
1:26-27; Rom. 16:25-26; Eph. 3:3-4). In any case Messiah is its head (Col.
1:18; 2:10, 19) and founder.
Nazarene Judaism is being restored as the words of the sealed book
are being revealed (Is 29:11-12, 18; Rom. 11:23-26) by Messiah (Rev. 5).
The sealed book is written in Hebrew/Aramaic (Ezkl. 2:8-3:6), contains the
"words of the cross" (1Cor. 1:18-19 where 1:19 = Is. 29:14) and speaks of
Messiah (Heb. 10:7 = Ps. 40:7). Thus the sealed book is G-d's Word,
including the Hebrew/Aramaic N.T., Which is being revealed in these last
days.
Our principles of faith/statement of faith are the Scriptures (2Tim.
3:16-17).
>Please post this information to the network, since others are
>interested.
>It might be instructive to point out how your views differ from
>* the UMJC statement of faith
>* the ECFA statement of faith
>If you don't have these, let me know, and I'll e-mail them to you.
Please E-Mail these to me, I would be very interested in comparing
the "statement of faith" of the two sects you mentioned with our
"statement of faith" the Scriptures (2Tim. 3:16-17)
All members of the Body of Messiah should share the same statement
of faith (Phil. 3:16; 1Cor. 1:10) the Scriptures (2Tim. 3:16-17).
Admittedly there have been a number of requests for the teachings of
Nazarene Judaism as found in the Scriptures, I had hoped to provide these
in detail as a series of detailed messages, however this will take a
while. As a result I am uploading the first two articals on Nazarene
Jewish teaching as the next two posts:
* Apostasy and Restoration
* Understanding the Covenants
This will be followed by two additional posts which expound other
teachings from the Scriptures:
* Are You a Religious Drunkard?
* Faith + Works [for Salvation] = Damnation.
further posts will be forthcoming. Please feel free to ask any specific
questions.
Shalom,
James Scott Trimm
Fore more info write: Nazarene Judaism
P.O. Box 471
Hurst, TX 76053
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James Trimm
>As Messianic Jewish believers we believe:
>1. That we are a part of the universal body of Messiah comprised of both
Jews and Gentiles and consider Biblical Christianity to be Biblical
Judaism.
A: No problem here.
>2. We believe Yeshua Hamashiah, the Jewish way to say Jesus Christ, is the
> Promised Messiah, was born of the Virgin Miriam(Mary), lived in Israel
> ministered to the Jewish People, chose 12 Jewish Apostles, fulfilled
> the prophecies of the Tanach,(Old Testament), taught the precepts of
> God, died for our sins on the cursed tree (cross), shed his blood for
> everlasting atonement, and rose from the dead the third day, to be both
> Lord and Messiah. We believe in Him was the fulness of God in a body.
> (His diety). We express this Unity as a Tri-Unity. One God expressed
> in three personages. We believe He is coming again soon to rule over
> the nations of the world for 1,000 years after which, there will be
> a new heaven and a new earth, with its capitol city being Jerusalem,
> whose foundations will have the names of the twelve Jewish Apostles
> of Yeshua, and the gates having the names of the 12 tribes of Israel!
A: I would find gerneral agree ment with most of whats said here, but
since the wording is not verbatim Scripture I cannot replace my statement
of faith, the Scriptures (2Tim 3:16-17) with this alternate document.
>3. We believe that we are to help bring Messiah back by sharing the good
> News with the Jewish People reconciling them back to their God and
> Messiah.
A: Let us not forget Is. 29: 11-12, 18... this will only happen with the
revealing of the sealed book (including the Heb/Aram NT)
>4. our eschatology is as fortold in Matt. 24, Revelation etc..
> Most are Pre-Millenial without dispensationalism.(overlaping
> dispensations).
A: I have no problem agreeing with this statement, I only have a problem
elevating it to the level of the Scriptures by making it my statement of
faith. (2Tim. 3:16-17)
>5. We relate to many different denominations and fellowships, some MJ
> congregations are Baptist, some Pentecostal, some Charismatic, some
> Lutheran etc.. Being an Evangelical is the covering that we best
> relate to.
A: How about disposing of such sectarianism. This statement makes it
plain that many MJ congregations are SECTARIANS and sectarianism is
strongly condemned in the Scriptures. if "relating" to them means being
religiously yoked to them (2Cor. 6:14) when these sects certainly contain
some non-believers, might I recomend "come out from among them and be
seperate" (2Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4; Is 52:11) rather than "lets relate with
them". Why dont we just say "being a member of the Body of Messiah" is
the covering we best relate to.
>Mr. Trimm:
>
>You still haven't answered my question. I don't care where you
>trace your group's origins. How about this:
>
>"At what time would mail addressed c/o 'Nazarene Judaism' arrive
> at a person's desk?"
>
>"Who would read the mail?"
A: I would. As a teacher within the Body of Messiah I am obligated to
engage in the work of:
...the perfecting of the believers for the work of service, for
the edifying of the Body of Messiah, till we all come to the
unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a
perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of
the Messiah; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and
fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the
trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness by which they lie in
wait to decieve. but speaking the truth in love, may grow up in
all things into him who is the head-- the Messiah-- from whom
the whole Body, joined and knit together by what every joint
supplies, according to the effective working by which every part
does its share, causes growth of the Body for the edifying of
itself in love. (Eph. 4:11-16)
>A Protestant would say something like "We're the authentic religion
>of Jesus, our modern movement was started by Luther" or something
>like that.
A: Is the Body of Messiah a modern movement? The restoration through the
revealing of the sealed book (Is. 29:11-12, 18) was initiated by Messiah
(Rev. 5) and performed by his workers in the Body (Eph. 4:11-16).
Feel free to send any more questions my way.
James Scott Trimm
PO Box 471
Hurst, TX 76053
James Trimm
>
> In Response to James Trimm--
>JT> Do you have any specific questions about my "religious orentation"?
>JT>as general as you are I can only refer you to the Scriptures.
> The question wasn't non-specific, James, and it wasn't hostile
>either. Your posts are not in a discussion format, but require a
>certain investment of time to look up the specific citations made to
>support your points. I am a bit wary of those who want to pour out
>many highly developed dissertations but seem to prefer not to identify
>where their affiliations lie. So the question was asked to help me
>determine whether or not it was personally worthwhile for me to make the
>investment of time to look more deeply into what you are posting. I
>don't have the time to waste only to find out I'm being pumped with
>B'nai Noach doctrines, or David Koresh-type ramblings...<grin>
A: Donna, I am sorry if I gave to many referances... I try to thoroughly
document my work. I have no problem stating where my "affiliations lie"
I am a member of the Body of Messiah and nothing more. By virtue of being
a part of Am-Yisrael (the people of Israel) I call myself a Nazarene Jew
(see Acts 24:5). If whether my writings are worth your time to read in
detail depends on my being a member of some sect then I must disapoint you
on this because I am not sectarian, the Scriptures call sectarianism a
"work of the flesh". I am not a member of B'nai Noach, (Sons of Noah)
to the contrary I am a part of B'nai Yisrael (Sons of Israel), I assume
you refer to the sect run by Vendyl Jones, rather than to the literal sons
of Noah or sons of Israel to which I refer.
>JT>4:4). The New Scriptures (and "church fathers") call the Jewish portion
>JT>this body "Nazarene Judaism" today it is often labled Messianic Judaism
> So...are you a Jewish believer?
A: Yes, does this help you some?
JT> Due you disaprove of "the teaching nature" of my posts?
>JT> I am not associated with...or any other religious
>JT> organization created by men.
> It is not just the words that are spoken but who is doing the
>speaking. So what is it, James? What is Nazarene Judiasm? Is it a
>group, or is it James Trimm?...what is it? Is this too much to ask
>of you?
A: There are many Nazarene Jews throughout the world. Some of us meet
together in my home in Hurst TX, others may be meeting elsewhere soon...
perhaps some I am unaware of already are. You are more than welcome to
come join us.
Shalom,
Robert A. Levene
In article <30MAY199...@utarlg.uta.edu>
b64...@utarlg.uta.edu James Scott Trimm writes:
>> From: lev...@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Obviously, the attribution is incorrect. The text erroneously
attributed to me was the familiar "UMJC / MJCN Statement of faith"
posted last August by Harvey Smith. The ">>" text should be
attributed to him.
>> As Messianic Jewish believers we believe:
>
>> 1. That we are a part of the universal body of Messiah comprised of both
> Jews and Gentiles and consider Biblical Christianity to be Biblical
> Judaism.
>
>A: No problem here.
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