Shania & Faith in "EW"!
RKerseyJr
board, it looks like "Entertainment Weekly" is doing an issue about the
releases of some upcoming albums. There are articles on Both Shania & Faith's
new albums.
The Shania article contains a new photo of Shania. (She looks much better in
the new photo thanks to a lot less make-up.) I don't know if there is a photo
with Faith's article because no one has posted it *if* there is one.
If you want to see the Shania article & the New photo of her, go here:
http://groups.msn.com/ShaniaTwainandMuttLange/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhot
o&PhotoID=23
RKerseyJr
Here's what the whole thing says:
THE HOOK In praise of the tortoise: While Eminem was spouting off about his
mother and Britney was writhing with serpents, the top-knotted and flat-tummied
queen of country-pop crossover has been quietly shoring up her strength as a
commercial colossus. Shania’s last album, 1997’s Come On Over, has sold 19
million copies in the U.S. alone, tying it for the sixth hugest album in
American music history. Still for the past two years or so, fans haven’t
heard a peep; In 1999 Twain and her husband/producer, the reclusive power-riff
warlock Robert John “Mutt” Lange, moved to a chateau in Switzerland (yes,
Switzerland), where they had a baby (son Eja) and tinkered away at their next
twang-and-bang manifesto.
THE BRIDGE Tinkered slowly. Although UP! Is officially tagged to launch in
November, there have been rumors it could be delayed, possibly until next year.
If so, blame both a management shake-up (In August Twain parted ways with
manager Jon Landau and hooked up with Q-Prime, Metallica’s firm.) and a
too-rich profusion of material: Twain says UP! Might have 19 tracks, with
different versions (glossy globo-country, bright Supertrampy arena-pop)
engineered for different world markets. “I know I have pop fans, I know I
have country fans,” Twain says “I want them both to be entertained by what
they’re hearing.”
THE OUTRO EW has heard four of the under-wraps new tunes; true to the album’s
title, the new stuff has more pom-pom-weilding pep than Kirsten Dunst in Bring
It On. “It’s up and it’s cheerful,” Twain says. “We wanted to enjoy
writing it, we wanted to feel up about the whole thing, so we just ended up
gearing everything towards a very positive feeling.”
RKerseyJr
article because, as of yet, no one has posted it. However, I do have the text
of the article.
The article is interesting & it proves Kevin to be right on about what *is* and
*isn't* on Faith's new album. To go ahead and get this out of the way: Faith
is *Not* going back to country. Faith mentioned the types of music that were
on her album and country was *not* among them.
Some of the more interesting things in the article is that Faith's new album
contains at least 1 song that was written by, of all people, PINK!
For those who don't know who PINK is, *this* is Pink:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020830/170/255ak.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020830/170/256cy.html
The Faith article is in my Next post....
RKerseyJr
THE HOOK: If comparisons must be made, Hill is probably closer to Minnie
Riperton than to Minnie Pearl these days. "Because of the songs I chose to
record, [the album] certainly is more evident of the music that was my first
influence," she says, "and that's the music of the church. The material allowed
me to go futher in that direction-gospel, R&B, soul. A LOT of soul. Probably 80
percent more than the last one." Her original fan base at country radio isn't
even balking. "So far the response [to the single, also named 'Cry'] has been
really incredible-I've actually been a little bit surprised!"
THE BRIDGE: Hill relied on many of the same producers and songwriters used on
1999's Breathe. BUT LOOK FOR ONE SURPRISE IN THE CREDITS: A song co-penned by
the decidedly non-Nashvillian Pink.
THE OUTRO With rumors that Shania's album could be bumped in 2003, Hill may
have the miltiplatinum country-pop-crossover-looker market all to herself. This
fall it'll be her party, and you can Cry if you want to.
RKerseyJr
>November, there have been rumors it could be delayed, possibly until next
>year.
Right now, that "delay" rumor is just that: a *rumor*!
If you consider the timing of the "Entertainment Weekly" article, that "delay"
comment might not have even been in there if it was being written today.
Shania was confirmed to be a CMA performer on Thursday. The issue hit store
stands on Friday and Saturday. So, that article might not have included that
"delay" mention if they had known about the CMA information.
Right now, I *don't* think the album will be delayed. She's already done too
much promotional work for the album to be delayed again.
Ritaloves3
>I know I have pop fans, I know I
>have country fans,” Twain says “I want them both to be entertained by what
>they’re hearing.”
>
Is that what the saying "straddling the fence" means??
RKerseyJr
No. It's actually a smart move both in terms of marketing and in terms of
keeping both sets of her fans happy.
She's supposedly releasing one country version of the CD and one pop version.
If she were to quit doing the remixes, her pop fans would be unhappy about
that. If she were to quit doing country versions, then her country fans, such
as myself, would be unhappy.
RKerseyJr
btw: According to all of the different people who have heard part of the album
(4-6 of the 19+ songs) say that there is at least 1 *very* country song on the
cd & one other one that is described as "new country."
Ironically, the supposed lead single "I'm Gonna Getcha (Good)!" is getting
mixed reports. Overseas reports say that the song is very pop. Reports from
U.S. people have generally said that it's very country. I guess she played the
country version for the U.S. people and did the pop version for people like the
Norwegian reporter. That's the only way to account for the *huge* difference
in the descriptions.
I *hope* the country reports are true.
brit_am
RKerseyJr <rker...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The print of the copy of the Shania article is kind of small.
Beginning to look an awful lot like spam.
Kevin C.
forward to the Music preview issue.
________________
Kevin C.
"I can't stand someone that stands up and says he loves America, but can't
stand Americans." - Barbara Sherrill
brit_am
> Here's the Faith article:
>
> THE HOOK: If comparisons must be made, Hill is probably closer to Minnie
> Riperton than to Minnie Pearl these days.
Oh really? I wouldn't even mention any of those people in the same post
with Hill. Riperton was a hell of a singer, Hill is not antwhere close.
Minnie Pearl was invilved in great cgarities in Nashville, and quite a
classic comedien. People all over the wordls could laugh at Pearl's
jokes --- but Faith Hill is just plain laughable.
brit_am
> >THE BRIDGE Tinkered slowly. Although UP! Is officially tagged to launch
in
> >November, there have been rumors it could be delayed, possibly until next
> >year.
>
> Right now, that "delay" rumor is just that: a *rumor*!
>
> If you consider the timing of the "Entertainment Weekly" article, that
"delay"
> comment might not have even been in there if it was being written today.
That joke of a magazine should be titled Entertainment "Weakly".
brit_am
Yes, and partly to the fact that no one gives a damned about Shania in
Europe. You could probably count the people on one hand who bought her
albums in Norway.
G. Murray
bashing someone, do us all a favor and at least take the extra time to make
sure you SPELL correctly while doing it! Sheesh!
Leah
dress in a mirrored kinda room. I have looked for the pic everywhere but I
can't find it. If any one has seen it on the net can you pls leave a link.
Pretty sure this is one of the newer ones of her.
Thanks,
Leah
--
Work like you don't need the money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one is watching.
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RKerseyJr
>Europe. You could probably count the people on one hand who bought her
>albums in Norway.
Your point?
You could probably count the people on one hand who bought *a lot* of artists'
albums.
RKerseyJr
No. Believe it or not, some people have told me they had trouble reading it.
Sorry that not everyone is as 'perfect' as yourself...
Kevin C.
>Yes, and partly to the fact that no one gives a damned about Shania in
>Europe.
You're so wrong it's funny. "Come On Over" was the U.K.'s top-selling album
of 1999, and has been certified 10x platinum there (which means 3 million sold,
as platinum is 300K is England.) "COO" has sold 18 million units worldwide,
about half of which were in Australia/Canada, and the other half in
Europe/Asia. "COO" was also the top-selling album in all of Europe over a
two-year stretch - 1999-2000. Shania also sold out every venue she played
across Europe when she toured there, and she was playing arenas in some cities.
You could probably count the people on one hand who bought her
>albums in Norway.
If you have hundreds of thousands of fingers. "Come On Over" was a #1 album
in Norway, as it was in more than a dozen other countries. The U.S. is one of
the only countries that the album didn't go to #1.
RKerseyJr
>dress in a mirrored kinda room. I have looked for the pic everywhere but I
>can't find it. If any one has seen it on the net can you pls leave a link.
>Pretty sure this is one of the newer ones of her.
>Thanks,
>Leah
Long black dress? Mirror?
I don't keep up on new Faith photos, but I think I've got one similar to what
you're describing.
I posted a link to it in another thread. It looks more like she's wearing a
black bathrobe, but this is the only one I can think of:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/music/0,6115,345716~4~0~cry,00.html
Brad Noble
> RKerseyJr <rker...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20020915142934...@mb-fq.aol.com...
> > Here's the Faith article:
> >
> > THE HOOK: If comparisons must be made, Hill is probably closer to Minnie
> > Riperton than to Minnie Pearl these days.
>
> Oh really? I wouldn't even mention any
Either.
of those people in the same post
> with Hill.
You did.
Riperton was a hell of a singer, Hill is not antwhere close.
How close? What ants? Is your opinion supported by some general
consensus?
> Minnie Pearl was invilved in great cgarities in Nashville,
She was also involved in some great charities. I wasn't aware of
her being invilved in any cgarities, please tell us more.
and quite a
> classic comedien.
Did you know she was also a comedienne (gender specific)/ comedian
(gender neutral)?
People all over the wordls
How many wordls? Two wordls? Three wordls? More wordls?
could laugh at Pearl's
> jokes
I'm sure they could, unless they have no vocal chords. Do people on
wordls have vocal chords?
As for the world, people all over it have laughed at Minnie Pearl's
jokes. People all over the world have also enjoyed listening to Ms.
Hill's music and have bought millions of her records. Or should that
be millons?
--- but Faith Hill is just plain laughable.
No, the joke here is undoubtedly you. Troll.
and a one, and a two, and a PLONK.
Leah
Thanks
Leah
--
Work like you don't need the money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one is watching.
Leah...@shaw.ca
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brit_am
Kevin C. <lysi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> brit wrote:
> >Yes, and partly to the fact that no one gives a damned about Shania in
> >Europe.
>
> You're so wrong it's funny.
How often do you go to the U.K. and Europe then?
brit_am
brit_am
G. Murray <gmurr...@aol.comNOJUNK> wrote in message
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Fuck off. It's typos in a post sent away in too much of a hurry. Who cares
anyway? It's not a bloody english class anyone is conducting here.
Kevin C.
>How often do you go to the U.K. and Europe then?
The numbers already proved you wrong. Quit while you're behind.
brit_am
> brit_am:
> >How often do you go to the U.K. and Europe then?
>
> The numbers already proved you wrong. Quit while you're behind.
They don't mean anything. Ask anyone on the street in Leeds, London,
York,... or which ever you choose, and they'd tell you she sucks.
Brad Noble
> Kevin C. <lysi...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20020916001252...@mb-md.aol.com...
> > brit wrote:
> > >Yes, and partly to the fact that no one gives a damned about Shania in
> > >Europe.
> >
> > You're so wrong it's funny.
>
> How often do you go to the U.K. and Europe then?
>
>
(...)
~^Johnny^~
<bri...@yahoo.spammersmustdie.ie> wrote:
> You could probably count the people on one hand who bought her
>albums in Norway.
They were probably buying Steinar Albrigtsen CDs! :-)
--
-john
~~~~~~~~
"Mama had one on her and one in her
as long as I can remember" - Dolly Parton
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SoGoodT...@webtv.net
advertisements for her new single she has been sending through email. I
have gotten like 3 or 4 of the same advertisements for it. If you have
recieved it in your email then its that same picture in her email promos
that is in the EW.
Shawn
RKerseyJr
>forward to the Music preview issue.
>
>
>________________
>
>Kevin C.
Np. :)
The Shania article and photo are on page 59 of the issue.
When I flipped over the page to page 61, I found a *Huge* new photo of Faith.
The photo literally covers the whole page.
That photo of Faith just shows you that the 'old' Faith is *not* coming back.
The 'new' Faith is in love with water, push-up bras, and 'accidently' exposing
her bra.
The photo is neither natural-looking or tasteful for a promotional photo for a
new album. She should save that stuff for the men's magazines.
RKerseyJr
You're right Kevin.
In January of last year, 2001, "Come On Over" hit sales of 7 Million copies in
all of Europe. ....
http://www.ifpi.org/site-content/press/20010206.html
It's been a while since "Come On Over" received new certificiations in a few
countries. It should be receiving new certifications soon. :)
Barbara Sherrill
I am biting my tongue in a huge way.
Barb
RKerseyJr
>record, [the album] certainly is more evident of the music that was my first
>influence," she says, "and that's the music of the church. The material
>allowed
>me to go futher in that direction-gospel, R&B, soul. A LOT of soul. Probably
>80
>percent more than the last one." Her original fan base at country radio isn't
>even balking. "So far the response [to the single, also named 'Cry'] has been
>really incredible-I've actually been a little bit surprised!"
>
>THE BRIDGE: Hill relied on many of the same producers and songwriters used on
>1999's Breathe. BUT LOOK FOR ONE SURPRISE IN THE CREDITS: A song co-penned by
>the decidedly non-Nashvillian Pink.
>
Well, as if there was any doubt about where Faith is heading...
It seems that cowboy hats were *not* allowed at the taping of Faith's NBC
special in L.A.. Fans were told to "leave their cowboy hats at home."
Read about it in this article from Launch.com:
Faith Hill Performs Free Concert
09/18/2002
(9/18/02, 12 p.m. ET) -- Faith Hill fans in Los Angeles were treated to a free
performance by the superstar in as part of her upcoming NBC Thanksgiving
special Tuesday (September 17) night. Six hundred lucky fans took in the
concert at The Palace in Hollywood, which was filled to capacity. In addition
to barring the usual cameras, recording devices, pagers, cell phones, and large
bags, fans were also asked to leave their cowboy hats at home.
Hill has been taping segments of the special around Los Angeles for the past
week. Sunday's (September 15) planned taping at the El Rey Theater had to be
canceled after the building was condemned due to safety issues, but will be
rescheduled at an undetermined location. Hill's new album, Cry, hits retail
outlets October 15. Her current single, "Cry," sits at Number 12 on the
Billboard Hot Country Singles & Tracks chart.
-- Margy Holland, Nashville
Barbara Sherrill
"Barbara Sherrill" <bshe...@pdq.net> wrote in message
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Thought about it and just can't do it. Can I ask what is your point to
*bash* Faith, when you dont want anyone to say those same things about
Shania? Why did you find it neccessary to bait Faith fans. With your
comments that you, just made is all you could do is start a thread war with
Faith fans. Can't you ever leave things well enough alone? Now IF her fans
come here and start up with you about Shania, do not scream foul...
Barb
Ray Zuniga
utterly amazing. Anyone know what the reasoning was for this?
Amazing. I wonder what's next....
In article <20020918161629...@mb-fe.aol.com>,
RKerseyJr <rker...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Faith Hill Performs Free Concert
>09/18/2002
>
>(9/18/02, 12 p.m. ET) -- Faith Hill fans in Los Angeles were treated to a free
>performance by the superstar in as part of her upcoming NBC Thanksgiving
>special Tuesday (September 17) night. Six hundred lucky fans took in the
>concert at The Palace in Hollywood, which was filled to capacity. In addition
>to barring the usual cameras, recording devices, pagers, cell phones, and large
>bags, fans were also asked to leave their cowboy hats at home.
>
>Hill has been taping segments of the special around Los Angeles for the past
>week. Sunday's (September 15) planned taping at the El Rey Theater had to be
>canceled after the building was condemned due to safety issues, but will be
>rescheduled at an undetermined location. Hill's new album, Cry, hits retail
>outlets October 15. Her current single, "Cry," sits at Number 12 on the
>Billboard Hot Country Singles & Tracks chart.
>
>-- Margy Holland, Nashville
>
>
>http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=210499
--
Ray Z.
rv...@yahoo.com
Jon Weisberger
"Ray Zuniga" <r...@seepost.com> wrote in message
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> I find the fact people were told to leave their cowboy hats homes
> utterly amazing. Anyone know what the reasoning was for this?
My guess is they didn't want audience members wearing them.
<g>
--
Jon Weisberger
RKerseyJr
>*bash* Faith, when you dont want anyone to say those same things about
>Shania? Why did you find it neccessary to bait Faith fans. With your
>comments that you, just made is all you could do is start a thread war with
>Faith fans. Can't you ever leave things well enough alone? Now IF her fans
>come here and start up with you about Shania, do not scream foul...
>
>Barb
Interesting...
There have been threads where I, nor any other Shania fan, has brought up
Shania's name & self-proclaimed Shania haters have brought her name up and
bashed her. Then, when Shania's fans respond, you guys say "quit bringing her
name up."
Those who don't like Shania need to Practice what you preach...
Jon Weisberger
looking
> >forward to the Music preview issue.
> >
> >
> >________________
> >
> >Kevin C.
>
> Np. :)
>
> The Shania article and photo are on page 59 of the issue.
>
> When I flipped over the page to page 61, I found a *Huge* new photo of
Faith.
> The photo literally covers the whole page.
>
> That photo of Faith just shows you that the 'old' Faith is *not* coming
back.
And? Is the 'old' Shania about to make a reappearance? Is the cover of Up!
going to be another faux tundra scene, complete with sled dog? What's your
point?
--
Jon Weisberger
RKerseyJr
>*bash* Faith
Btw: I forgot to ask: What is *your* point when you, and others, *bash*
Shania?
Like I said: Practice what you preach...
Coop
to be bad about a cowboy hat? This has major potential to piss off a
bunch of people. Dumb! It's an insult.
Coop
Archie Elliott
: I find the fact people were told to leave their cowboy hats homes
: utterly amazing. Anyone know what the reasoning was for this?
Considerations of security? Note that large bags were also banned. They
might have feared that weapons could be concealed in cowboy hats.
: In article <20020918161629...@mb-fe.aol.com>,
Barbara Sherrill
You don't have a clue do you ?? You hate Faith so much its okay for you to
trash her, but it's not okay to trash Shania, for the same thing. Your
Double Standard is showing.
Barbara Sherrill
My comments about Shania, has stayed with in the music .... Yours are
personal.
apparently you like a fight, if you didn't you would of kept your opinions
about Faith to yourself. You won't have it with me. I am just really
disappointedd that you felt it was neccessary to fire the opening shots.
Just when I started to really enjoy your post !
Barb
RKerseyJr
>might have feared that weapons could be concealed in cowboy hats.
I don't know. Tim had a larger crowd at his taped special and I did *not* hear
anything about him or his people banning cowboy hats.
~^Johnny^~
> Considerations of security? Note that large bags were also banned. They
>might have feared that weapons could be concealed in cowboy hats.
What about boots?
(A Kelly Willis song comes to mind...) ;->
Brandy
Barb>>>
Your not alone Barb! Just be careful, reading this girl's posts could
cause you to bite it off!
Erik
Damn sure had me fooled....
Erik
"I like George Jones, Willie and Waylon, I think Kris and Merle are songwritin'
saviors"--Cory Morrow
"God bless Texas, Country Music, Rednecks, Aggies, Taco
Cabanas, and of course, Jim Bob Jumpback!"--Nshvlbrat
Kevin C.
>And? Is the 'old' Shania about to make a reappearance? Is the cover of Up!
>going to be another faux tundra scene, complete with sled dog?
Probably not, but I imagine the belly button she showed in her first video from
that CD will be making a comeback.
Fb1123
totally away from her country ties and cowboy hats are just a reminder of her
shameful past. She wants her new, improved, larger audience to forget her
humble country beginnings and only see her for the cover girl, cosmetic
endorser with a limited vocal range they know her to be.
Oh by the way, Country is still the red-headed step-child of the music world
and the girl is just too good for little ol' us.
~^Johnny^~
Fuck you, Esker.
Clark Reid
> The Shania article and photo are on page 59 of the issue.
>
> When I flipped over the page to page 61, I found a *Huge* new photo of
Faith.
> The photo literally covers the whole page.
>
> That photo of Faith just shows you that the 'old' Faith is *not* coming
back.
> The 'new' Faith is in love with water, push-up bras, and 'accidently'
exposing
> her bra.
>
> The photo is neither natural-looking or tasteful for a promotional photo
for a
> new album. She should save that stuff for the men's magazines.
Geeeezus, you're to freaking much!!!!
Clark