Monogram's B-29
LYRAD108
Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
(bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
paint it?
lar...@dbgcorp.com
lyra...@aol.com (LYRAD108) wrote:
> Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
It's really big! :-)
><snip>. Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> paint it?
Airbrush or no airbrush, B-29's were usually silver (ie. bare metal). ;-)
Your best bet would be to use cans of silver spray enamal, or, if you are
really brave, you could cover it with Bare Metal foil.
Eric
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Michael K. Kroeker
plenty of raised panel lines and rivets to go around. It builds into an
impressive model if you take your time. I've built several for veteran friends
of my Dad and usually airbrush SnJ masking various panels, but if I didn't have
an airbrush, I would probaby use non-buffing aluminum Testors metallizer in a
spray can. Yes, it does have plenty of interior detail that you will spend hours
detailing that no one will ever know about once the fuselage is closed up, like
any bomber kit. I like the old kit and will probably build a couple more before
it's all over with. The Academy Minicraft B-29A offers comparable detail in a
more modern kit (read engraved panel lines) in a smaller, more manageable scale
at 1/72. Even at that scale this makes for a fairly good sized model. Think
about where you're going to store/display the 1/48 Monogram. It will take up the
whole dining room table. :^)
Mike Kroeker
LYRAD108 wrote:
> Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
> Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
> (bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> paint it?
LYRAD108
>are "Paddle" types which were used only on the nuclear bombers or post war
>versions as far as I know<
Good, then I can live with the fact that I never knew what paddle props were,
and that they were only on the atomic bombers, and I have no idea what the
paddle props look like. And I can live with the fact that I don't really care
about the props. I do plan on getting Aeromaster decals, Easyframes, and
bulged/flattened resin tires(probably not the last one, though)
LYRAD108
"I've come to think that war is God's way of teaching us geography. Just two
weeks ago I thought that Kuwait was a fruit from New Zealand"- some comedian
RLobinske
>Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
>(bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
>paint it?
>
It is an older kit that has aged well. The most obvious problem it the cuffed
Curtis props that were only found on the later bombers, most had Hamilton
standard props without the cuff at the base of each blade. It is also one tail
heavy kit and the provided small bit of clear plastic doesn't do a good job of
holding it up. The nosegear is strong enough to add weight, but you will need
a lot, I filled the forward fuesalage under the flight deck and had to add
weigth to the two inboard nacelles to get it to sit properly. The bunks were
not used on most of the aircraft, those with radars had the RO in that
compartment, about midpoint on the port side. On the last one I built, I cut
out the tops of the crew compartments so that the interior could be seen.
Engstrome
>>Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
>>Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
>>(bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
>>paint it?
>>
Yes. It rules, is easy to work into the myriad conversions that have been
documented and it is IMPRESSIVE!!. It has omigod..raised panel lines. BFD, if
that is a concern, rub the beast down with 3600 and then 8000 grit micromesh to
really subdue them and go to work with foil, SNJ and Metalizer. We are
modellers, no? This is a great kit that you can do lotsostuff to!
Best, Eric
"I model what I will, and that which pleases me..."
MODEL HAWK
(snip)
>
>Airbrush or no airbrush, B-29's were usually silver (ie. bare metal). ;-)
>Your best bet would be to use cans of silver spray enamal, or, if you are
>really brave, you could cover it with Bare Metal foil.
....unless you're doing "Monsoon Goon - Esso Express." It was OD over NG and,
after some (?) missions, was relegated to hauling fuel and cargo "over the
hump." I have a set of old 1/48 decals for it.
Happy modeling; Modelhawk
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Suvoroff
and see the top of the bomb-bay tunnel.
Yours,
A.V. Suvoroff
Steven Murray
in SMO's B-29s in Action) painted olive drab/light gray. And then in the
Korean War, there were -29s with black undersides (or perhaps those were
B-50s?)
Steven
lar...@dbgcorp.com wrote:
> In article <19990127082013...@ng-cd1.aol.com>,
> lyra...@aol.com (LYRAD108) wrote:
> > Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
> ><snip>
>
> It's really big! :-)
>
> ><snip>. Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> > paint it?
>
> Airbrush or no airbrush, B-29's were usually silver (ie. bare metal). ;-)
> Your best bet would be to use cans of silver spray enamal, or, if you are
> really brave, you could cover it with Bare Metal foil.
>
Michael K. Kroeker
Gee, can't ever please the guy. Academy kit is the same way.
-mkk
Joe Hegedus
>
> B-29s were typically natural metal, but there was at least one (saw the photo
> in SMO's B-29s in Action) painted olive drab/light gray. And then in the
> Korean War, there were -29s with black undersides (or perhaps those were
> B-50s?)
>
> Steven
No, they were B-29's. During Korea, the B-50's were busy standing Nuke
Alert, IIRC.
Joe
E McCann
lar...@dbgcorp.com wrote:
>
> In article <19990127082013...@ng-cd1.aol.com>,
> lyra...@aol.com (LYRAD108) wrote:
> > Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
> ><snip>
>
> It's really big! :-)
>
> ><snip>. Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> > paint it?
>
> Airbrush or no airbrush, B-29's were usually silver (ie. bare metal). ;-)
> Your best bet would be to use cans of silver spray enamal, or, if you are
> really brave, you could cover it with Bare Metal foil.
Of course, you've got the olive drab/neutral grey prototype, and the
silver/black Korea (?) era '29s... There's even a B-29 "Dumbo" that
carries a *huge* lifeboat. Silver and yellow, IIRC.
-Eric
emc...@iag.net
변성환
LYRAD108 wrote:
> Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
> Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
> (bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> paint it?
In my opinion, when you build the "Atomic" bomber or post war version of a
B-29, then you are right at a good detailed kit. If you want to build a real
pacific theatre B-29 then you have to get aftermarket props. The props included
are "Paddle" types which were used only on the nuclear bombers or post war
versions as far as I know. In fact other things are very good, indeed. I have
one too, and compared to the academy kit this gives you the real "BIG"
impression.
Sung-hwan Byun
RLobinske
>in SMO's B-29s in Action) painted olive drab/light gray. And then in the
>Korean War, there were -29s with black undersides (or perhaps those were
>B-50s?)
>
>Steven
Late in WWII, some of them also had black undersides, but I don't think that
all of the aircraft were changed over.
RLobinske
>it
>and see the top of the bomb-bay tunnel.
>
>Yours,
>A.V. Suvoroff
You can fairly easily fix that with some brass tubing of the same diameter as
the communication tunnel, simply cut a hole in the top and do an arc cut on the
tube, then use the brass tube to connect the astrodome to the communication
tube.
BXGCR
>>Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
>>(bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
>>paint it?
Great (big) kit!
I solved the detailed interior but can't see it by lighting it. Grain of rice
bulbs in the cockpit bombay, gunners comp. tailgunner. The tail gun light also
doubles for the formation light above the aft facing gunners window. Add
flashing led's for wingtip lights.
I built mine "gear up" and used brass tube for support. (The wires run down one
tube)
Still one problem, you can see best into the kit when I light it up in a dark
room.
Brian X. Godwin
Jeff J
>
> >B-29s were typically natural metal, but there was at least one (saw the photo
> >in SMO's B-29s in Action) painted olive drab/light gray. And then in the
> >Korean War, there were -29s with black undersides (or perhaps those were
> >B-50s?)
>
> Late in WWII, some of them also had black undersides, but I don't think that
> all of the aircraft were changed over.
Late in the war, the Marietta factory was painting the black undersides
as standard issue out of the factory, but these birds didn't make it in
time to go to war. Some were sprayed by crews in the field however.
Jeff
Jeff J
>
> >Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
> >Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
> >(bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> >paint it?
> >
>
> Curtis props that were only found on the later bombers, most had Hamilton
> standard props without the cuff at the base of each blade.
This is part right/part not -- have to run up the BS flag a little as
Joe Hegedus would say. The curtiss cuffed props were found during the
war only on the 509th composite's birds(and after during operation
CROSSROADS), because they were fully pitch reversible and added a margin
of safety and performance for the nuke bombers. After the war, you
started to see the curtiss electrics more: on most all KB-29's, some
RB-29's(formerly F-13's), and a few TB-29's. Part of the B-29 prop
mythos has been the uncuffed Hamilton Standard vs. the cuffed Curtiss
electric. The *vast* majority of the cuffed props on -29's were Hamilton
Standards *with* cuffs -- look closely -- the hamilton standards and
curtiss electric hubs are very different. I know KMC (used to) and
Paragon make "Ham Stand" replacements for the monogram B-29, but I don't
know if the Paragon version has cuffs -- the KMC set does not.
Great B-29 site:
<http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/9425/b29.html>
Jeff J.
Jeff J
>
> Steven Murray wrote:
> >
> > B-29s were typically natural metal, but there was at least one (saw the photo
> > in SMO's B-29s in Action) painted olive drab/light gray. And then in the
> > Korean War, there were -29s with black undersides (or perhaps those were
> > B-50s?)
> >
>
> No, they were B-29's. During Korea, the B-50's were busy standing Nuke
> Alert, IIRC.
>
> Joe
home/deterrence front. There were less than 100 B-36's ready to take the
"big stick" position by 1950. But some RB-50's of the 91st SRS flew
recon out of Japan during the Korean conflict.
Jeff J.
Jeff J
>
> B-29s were typically natural metal, but there was at least one (saw the photo
> in SMO's B-29s in Action) painted olive drab/light gray. And then in the
> Korean War, there were -29s with black undersides (or perhaps those were
> B-50s?)
;-)
> >Your best bet would be to use cans of silver spray enamal, or, if you are
> >really brave, you could cover it with Bare Metal foil.
>
> ....unless you're doing "Monsoon Goon - Esso Express." It was OD over NG and,
> after some (?) missions, was relegated to hauling fuel and cargo "over the
> hump." I have a set of old 1/48 decals for it.
>
There were approximately 50(most all out of the Witchita plant) of the
first production B-29's that were painted with the Olive Drab/Neutral
Gray scheme. Almost all had replacement aluminum doped replacement
rudders fitted when they got into action in the CBI.
Jeff J.
Jeff J
>
> >
> >>Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Co
>
> Best, Eric
Yep, I just got another one today. It is a superb kit for its age and a
very good kit even now.
Jeff J.
Mike
>
> Anybody have opinions on Monogram's 1:48 B-29? Come on, I know you do ;)
> Anyway, all I hear is that it has lots of interior detail you can't see
> (bunks!). Also, I don't have an airbrush, so what would be the best color to
> paint it?
It's big. It's the only one in 1/48. By far the vast majority were NMF
so it may be a chore handbrushing it so you might want to use spray
cans. BMF may be a way to go too. I've seen them with black undersides
and possibly a pic of a OD and gray one too. Oh ya I hope you don't want
to use your diningroom table for awhile, I don't know where else you'll
be able to build it let alone display it. Hang it?
--
Mike Dougherty
Toronto, Ont.
Canada
IPMS C4928
"Uh oh....."
- famous last words
Jeff J
>
> >The props included
> >are "Paddle" types which were used only on the nuclear bombers or post war
> Good, then I can live with the fact that I never knew what paddle props were,
> and that they were only on the atomic bombers, and I have no idea what the
> paddle props look like. And I can live with the fact that I don't really care
> about the props.
>
Actually, though they were a bit more "paddlely" than the Hamilton
Standards -- the main feature of the curtiss electrics was their
reversible pitch.
Jeff
jsh...@ptialaska.net
> You can fairly easily fix that with some brass tubing of the same diameter as
> the communication tunnel, simply cut a hole in the top and do an arc cut on
the
> tube, then use the brass tube to connect the astrodome to the communication
> tube.
Did the navigator have to climb into the communications tunnel to get to the
astrodome?
Jeff
IPMS something or other
Jeff J
>
> <snip>
> > You can fairly easily fix that with some brass tubing of the same diameter as
> > the communication tunnel, simply cut a hole in the top and do an arc cut on
> the
> > tube, then use the brass tube to connect the astrodome to the communication
> > tube.
>
> Did the navigator have to climb into the communications tunnel to get to the
> astrodome?
>
> Jeff
> IPMS something or other
Jeff,
Yes. They had to get up in the tunnel. Sometimes the rear gunners
sighting bubble was also used for star shots as it had a chair and was
much more comfortable than sitting in the padded tunnel, esp. for the
bigger-statured navigator. There, of course, the tunnel ended at the
pressure capsule bulkhead. Good pics on page 18-19 of Marshall's B-29
Superfortress and on a couple of pages near the end(pg.#'s in Japanese)
of Burindo's Famous Airplanes of the World No. 52.
Jeff J.
BXGCR
>
>Yes. They had to get up in the tunnel.
Thanks for the input Jeff. That answers one of those "I wonder" questions that
I never got around to research myself.
Brian X. Godwin
IPMS 36750
Bob Sikkel
> > Did the navigator have to climb into the communications tunnel to get to the
> > astrodome?
> Yes. They had to get up in the tunnel. Sometimes the rear gunners
> sighting bubble was also used for star shots as it had a chair and was
> much more comfortable than sitting in the padded tunnel, esp. for the
> bigger-statured navigator. There, of course, the tunnel ended at the
> pressure capsule bulkhead. Good pics on page 18-19 of Marshall's B-29
> Superfortress and on a couple of pages near the end(pg.#'s in Japanese)
> of Burindo's Famous Airplanes of the World No. 52.
Geez! I've been through that tunnel, and I can't imagine having to take
shots while in there. No wonder they liked to use the aft dome! (I
think the one I was in didn't have the forward dome fitted- I don't
remember it.)
Bob