Wodehouse travel|???
RWPFDC
Hi,
visiting UK in September, wondering if there are any "must see" Wodehouse
sites?
Going to be all around as well as in London.
Thanks
Rich
Alan Beechey
Before I popped off to live in America (following a distinguished
precedent), I resided in Dulwich in south-east London. PGW live there as
a child -- probably with an aunt or two -- and he later immortalized it
as Valley Fields, a remarkably bucolic suburb that surfaces in lots of
stories and novels. He also attended Dulwich College, a boys school, as
did Raymond Chandler.
(Hey, if Plum and Chandler had collaborated on a novel, would it be
called "Pip-Pip, My Lovely"? Just a thought.)
I haven't been to Dulwich for a while, and I don't know if the college
is open to visitors -- even earnest Wodehousians clutching dog-eared
copies of "Mike at Wrykyn" -- but it's an impressive pile to gawp at
from the outside.
The college also has a really good picture gallery, with some
world-class paintings, at least if they've stopped the hoi polloi
walking out with a couple of Rubenses under their raincoats, as was
happening a few years ago. It isn't part of the main college building
but on a road that leads to the exceedingly attractive Dulwich Village
-- good place for a tipple and half a game pie on a sunny Sunday
afternoon. And there's a really quirky collection housed in an Art
Nouveau building nearby, called the Horniman Museum. Mr. Horniman made
his millions in tea.
Might be worth a half-day, if the weather's fine? (The sun always shone
in Valley Fields.)
Bon voyage
Boko Fittleworth
nsh
Alan Beechey wrote:
>
> (Hey, if Plum and Chandler had collaborated on a novel, would it be
> called "Pip-Pip, My Lovely"? Just a thought.)
>
What Ho!
Young Boko has introduced a most interesting topic. What if PG had
written in collaboration with other writers of his day? How about "The
Big Sleep-That-Knits-The-Ragged-Sleeve-of-Care" or "The Maltese
Thinggummy"?
The Old Reliable
Jean Tillson
Boko thoughtlessly wrote:
>...on a road that leads to the exceedingly attractive Dulwich Village
>-- good place for a tipple and half a game pie on a sunny Sunday
>afternoon. And there's a really quirky collection housed in an Art
>Nouveau building nearby, called the Horniman Museum...
STOP IT! JUST STOP IT, WILL YOU?!!! Dammit, it's NOT a sunny Sunday
afternoon in England, it's a rotten, rainy, drizzly Monday morning
in America and the comparison just seems intolerable to me today.
Boko, how can you be so blithe in describing this earthly paradise?
"Might be all right for half a day", forsooth! No, no, I can't
bear it...
Pighooey, who has had quite enough of March, thank you very much.
JMGarciaJr
Hmm. In a PGW drought, I purchased and read a slim tome entitled "Scream
For Jeeves", which was an interesting amalgam of PGW and Lovecraft.
A Young Man In Spats
c/o The Drones Club
16 Dover Street
London, W1
nsh
Pighooey wrote:
> STOP IT! JUST STOP IT, WILL YOU?!!! Dammit, it's NOT a sunny Sunday
> afternoon in England, it's a rotten, rainy, drizzly Monday morning
> in America and the comparison just seems intolerable to me today.
> Boko, how can you be so blithe in describing this earthly paradise?
> "Might be all right for half a day", forsooth! No, no, I can't
> bear it...
>
>
On rotten rainy, drizzly Monday mornings, if anyone complained, my old
Scots Gran used to knock the miscreant up side the head and say "In
Edinburrrraaahhh if ye nay wanna leave the hoose ona dey like this ye
nay leave the hoose a tall."
I don't know which was more frightening the knock upside the head or the
idea of all those tall hooses running about Edinburrraaahhh.
Old Reliable
Alan Beechey
Jean Tillson wrote:
>
> Boko thoughtlessly wrote:
>
> >...on a road that leads to the exceedingly attractive Dulwich Village
> >-- good place for a tipple and half a game pie on a sunny Sunday
> >afternoon. And there's a really quirky collection housed in an Art
> >Nouveau building nearby, called the Horniman Museum...
>
> afternoon in England, it's a rotten, rainy, drizzly Monday morning
> in America and the comparison just seems intolerable to me today.
> Boko, how can you be so blithe in describing this earthly paradise?
> "Might be all right for half a day", forsooth! No, no, I can't
> bear it...
>
Hey, I happen to be this side of the old herring pond too, and it's been
raining Websters and Mackintoshes all morning. Of course, in urging
people to visit Dulwich Village, I should have said a good place on
*the* sunny Sunday afternoon. I believe there's one every decade or so.
And half a day is about all you get.
On "A Prairie Home Companion" last week, Garrison Keiller described
March as God's way of telling people who don't drink what a hangover
feels like.
(He also described cats as proof that not everything in nature was
designed to be useful.)
Yours, chastened but unrepentent,
Boko
Jean Tillson
> Of course, in urging
> people to visit Dulwich Village, I should have said a good place on
> *the* sunny Sunday afternoon. I believe there's one every decade or so.
> And half a day is about all you get.
It's very kind of you, Boko, old scream, to try and ease the pain a
bit by toning down the description, but it simply won't do. Which
coast are you on, if you don't mind my asking? I'm not usually this
sensitive - after all, I'm originally from Maine where, as we say,
we have 9 months of Winter and 3 months of real rough sleddin'.
Now I am 4 hours south in Boston and we have had a total of 8 inches
of snow this year, (compared to last year's 105 or whatever it ended
up being), but somehow I still am not happy. But then Americans are
always whinging about the weather, are we not? (That's what my English
friends tell me, anyway.)
> On "A Prairie Home Companion" last week, Garrison Keiller described
> March as God's way of telling people who don't drink what a hangover
> feels like.
Ha! That is a good one. I'll bet Wodehouse would have liked Keiller,
what?
Yours ever,
Pighooey
Richard Herring
In article <332422...@texas.net>, nsh <hu...@texas.net> wrote
Well, Chandler's last (unfinished) book would have to have been called
"Pekinese Springs", for a start.
--
Reggie "Kipper" Herring <ric...@clupeid.demon.co.uk>
Green Swizzle Wooster
>On "A Prairie Home Companion" last week, Garrison Keiller described
>March as God's way of telling people who don't drink what a hangover
>feels like.
>(He also described cats as proof that not everything in nature was
>designed to be useful.)
Garrison Keillor is evidence that humour doesn't have to British or high-brow
to be witty and elegant - Americans can be literate, too. I have only heard a
limited amount of his material, and don't understand it all because of my lack
of knowledge of the American mid-west, but the stuff I hear, I like. I was
particularly struck by a concert-format routine he did entitled something like
"A Young Methodist's Guide to Music" in which he characterizes various
symphonic instruments as representing different streams of American
mid-western religion. Frankly, I missed a lot of the nuances, but found the
whole concept very funny and elegantly done.
Green Swizzle
Green Swizzle Wooster
>In article <332422...@texas.net>, nsh <hu...@texas.net> wrote
>>Alan Beechey wrote:
>>Young Boko has introduced a most interesting topic. What if PG had
>>written in collaboration with other writers of his day? How about "The
>>Big Sleep-That-Knits-The-Ragged-Sleeve-of-Care" or "The Maltese
>>Thinggummy"?
>>
"The Maltese Thinggummy" is a riotous title, but alas, as is so often the
case, here Art merely imitates Life. Wodehouse wrote such a story - with
Bertie stealing and unstealing a cursed statuette brought from African by one
Colonel Plank. This story in many ways is similar to "The Maltese Falcon" in
its sinister characters, sexual tension, and near scrapes with the law.
Green Swizzle
Alan Beechey
Jean Tillson wrote:
Which
> coast are you on, if you don't mind my asking? I'm not usually this
> sensitive - after all, I'm originally from Maine where, as we say,
> we have 9 months of Winter and 3 months of real rough sleddin'.
> Now I am 4 hours south in Boston and we have had a total of 8 inches
> of snow this year, (compared to last year's 105 or whatever it ended
> up being), but somehow I still am not happy. But then Americans are
> always whinging about the weather, are we not? (That's what my English
> friends tell me, anyway.)
"Pray don't talk to me about the weather, Mr Worthing. Whenever people
talk to me about the weather, I always feel quite certain that they mean
something else. And that makes me so nervous."
I'm on the same coast as you, young Pighooey -- the right-hand one, but
a few miles south of you. But speaking as a native of a sceptr'd isle,
set in the silver sea, etc., I have to say that I thought whinging about
the weather was an English prerogative, largely because we're all too
bally embarrassed to talk about anything else in front of strangers.
In my experience, Americans usually talk about money, when they're not
accusing me of being Australian, calling me "Al," or asking me if I like
Benny Hill and warm beer. But I've grown rather fond of them. Especially
those blessed fortunates who appreciate PGW.
Changing the subject, but not entirely (and probably not permanently
judging from Pighooey's current obession with matters meteorological),
here's the opening paragraph from an obituary of Frank Launder, which
appeared in last week's Economist and may strike a c. with fellow
Plum-enthusiasts:
"As a footnote to the Ten Commandments, Hilaire Belloc suggested:
'Candidates should not attempt more than six of these.' If this sounds
funny, it may be that you appreciate that quirky thing called British
humour. If not, best not to bother. Belloc took more than 30 years to
become British, overcoming the handicap of being born in France. The
British Council teaches 'British humour' to foreigners, but some believe
this itself is an example of British humour."
Yours
Boko Fittleworth
Steeple Bumpleigh-on-the-Hudson
Bianchi
On Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:29:31 GMT, john...@Carleton.CA (Green Swizzle
Wooster) wrote:
>"The Maltese Thinggummy" is a riotous title, but alas, as is so often the
>case, here Art merely imitates Life. Wodehouse wrote such a story - with
>Bertie stealing and unstealing a cursed statuette brought from African by one
>Colonel Plank. This story in many ways is similar to "The Maltese Falcon" in
>its sinister characters, sexual tension, and near scrapes with the law.
>
>Green Swizzle
Greetings from B on the Bayou: Sexual tension, a Wodehouse story? Have
i been missing something all these years? Lady c
JMGarciaJr
<<Greetings from B on the Bayou: Sexual tension, a Wodehouse story? Have
i been missing something all these years? Lady c>>
I believe the intended message was that every character generally seems to
be awfully tense about sex.
Augustus Fink-Nottle
Ladty Constance wondered:
>Greetings from B on the Bayou: Sexual tension, a Wodehouse story? Have
>i been missing something all these years?
Dear Lady C.,
Put Madeline Bassett in any scenario and you have great tension between the
sexes. You ladies might pass her off as a mere sop and go about life as if
nothing had happened, but we gentlemen tend to have a much darker view where
the Bassett menace is concerned.
regards,
Gussie (who, if anyone, ought to know!)
Green Swizzle Wooster
>From: jmgar...@aol.com (JMGarciaJr)
><<Greetings from B on the Bayou: Sexual tension, a Wodehouse story? Have
>i been missing something all these years? Lady c>>
>I believe the intended message was that every character generally seems to
>be awfully tense about sex.
>A Young Man In Spats
Wouldn't you be tense if faced with the prospect of marrying Madeline Bassett,
and having her go "peekaboo" over your morning paper at breakfast?
Green Swizzle
Bianchi
On Wed, 12 Mar 97 17:36:50 GMT, bhur...@pilot.msu.edu (Augustus
Fink-Nottle) wrote:
>Ladty Constance wondered:
>>Greetings from B on the Bayou: Sexual tension, a Wodehouse story? Have
>>i been missing something all these years?
>
>Dear Lady C.,
>Put Madeline Bassett in any scenario and you have great tension between the
>sexes. You ladies might pass her off as a mere sop and go about life as if
>nothing had happened, but we gentlemen tend to have a much darker view where
>the Bassett menace is concerned.
>regards,
>Gussie (who, if anyone, ought to know!)
Greetings from B on theB: I am greatly relieved to know i haven't been
missing the boat. I don't think any woman would consider Madeline
Bassett to have sex appeal but we don't spend a lot of time looking at
her sideways and in profile. Lady Constance
Jean Tillson
Boko wrote:
>I'm on the same coast as you, young Pighooey -- the right-hand one, but
>a few miles south of you.
Just thought I would mention the fact, Boko, old scream, that there are
several chapters of The Wodehouse Society on this side of the continent
and if you are interested in joining one just say the word. You seem a
bright enough fellow - why not join us in the New England Wodehouse
Thingummy Society, (NEWTS), and I will personally teach you how to play
Persian Monarchs.
>In my experience, Americans usually talk about money, when they're not
>accusing me of being Australian, calling me "Al," or asking me if I like
>Benny Hill and warm beer.
Oooooh, I like that "accusing me of being Australian" part - what say you
to that, young Macintosh?
>Changing the subject, but not entirely (and probably not permanently
>judging from Pighooey's current obession with matters meteorological)
Well, I'm just about over it now, actually. It was the combination
of the weather and it being Monday, I think. Sorry to have gotten
so off topic. Still, someone told me today that they got a round
trip fare to England for around $350! (sigh)
Anglophilically,
Pighooey
JMGarciaJr
Actually, the thought of being involved in marital conress with The Basset
Menace, whereupon she shouts "peekaboo" at the worst imaginable moment,
sends assorted shivers through me.
A Young Man In Spats
Keith Ingram
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> Young Boko has introduced a most interesting topic. What if PG had
> written in collaboration with other writers of his day?
His day was a long one, so this thread has legs. Oh dear, is my metaphor
tangled?
I see him with Hemingway, somehow. The Snows of Blandings, or The Old
Mulliner and the Sea.
Judelon Ingram
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Augustus Fink-Nottle
"Keith Ingram" <kin...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I see him with Hemingway, somehow. The Snows of Blandings, or The Old
>Mulliner and the Sea.
>Judelon Ingram
Hmmm. Hemingway cum Wodehouse. Thats quite a tall order. Would anyone like to
try and imagine a paragraph from such a book?
(Hemingway and Wodehouse have such diametrically opposite styles that the
imagination boggles at the thought of having a Heminghouse or a Wodeway.)
regards,
Gussie
sha...@nospam.com
In article <33247F...@aol.com>, Alan Beechey <ABee...@aol.com> wrote:
>On "A Prairie Home Companion" last week, Garrison Keiller described
>March as God's way of telling people who don't drink what a hangover
>feels like.
I believe that I am quite an expert where hangovers are concerned; but
I find this remark rather puzzling. I look outside the window to see
blue skies, bright sunshine, gentle zephyrs, birds singing and all
that rot, and wouldn't have compared it to a "morning after".
Puzzled in California,
Pongo.
--
Shamim Mohamed <spm "at" crl "dot" com>
"Her eyes, he says, were shining like twin stars and there was a sort of Soul's
Awakening expression on her face, and what the dickens there was in a pink chap
like the pink chap, who even as pink chaps go wasn't much of a pink chap, to
make her look like that, was frankly, Pongo says, more than he could
understand."
Augustus Fink-Nottle
In article <5gcgfk$g...@crl.crl.com>, sha...@noSpam.com wrote:
>I believe that I am quite an expert where hangovers are concerned; but
>I find this remark rather puzzling. I look outside the window to see
>blue skies, bright sunshine, gentle zephyrs, birds singing and all
>that rot, and wouldn't have compared it to a "morning after".
Pongo, you foul blot, you must have guzzled one of Jeeves' pick-me-up's to
have written that abominable, sickly picturesque description.
May the floods be with you.
Gussie
(Who's sick of this freezing rain thats been coming down the last two days,
which caused power lines to go down, which put the lights out at the theatre
where one might have watched Return of the Jedi last night, which caused one
to go to a restaurant instead, which made one park in the restaurant parking
lot, which gave one a nail in the tire, which made one fix it in the cold,
which gave one a head cold, which has made one quite grumpy indeed!
March be blasted. Anyone know the entire recipe for Jeeves' reviver?)
bhur...@pilot.msu.edu
From: bhur...@pilot.msu.edu (Augustus Fink-Nottle)
Subject: March and everything after
Newsgroups: alt.fan.wodehouse
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 20:18:23 GMT
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In article <5gf0gs$5gh$1...@msunews.cl.msu.edu>,
Augustus Fink-Nottle <bhur...@pilot.msu.edu> wrote:
>(Who's sick of this freezing rain thats been coming down the last two days,
>which caused power lines to go down, which put the lights out at the theatre
>where one might have watched Return of the Jedi last night, which caused one
>to go to a restaurant instead, which made one park in the restaurant parking
>lot, which gave one a nail in the tire, which made one fix it in the cold,
>which gave one a head cold, which has made one quite grumpy indeed!
Ye Gods! Please don't spring these tales of horror on those of us with
delicate sensibilities.
I don't have the recipe for the Pick-Me-Up but let me quote the
Master, perhaps that will make you feel better:
"`California is generally described as the jewel state of the
Union. Bathed in eternal sunshine, cooled by gentle breezes, it affords the
ideal dwelling place for the stalwart men and fair womean who inhabit it. Its
noble movie houses, its spreading orange groves,---'
`How about the earthquskes?'
Mr Trout, who had been waving his hands emotionally, stopped with them
in mid-air as if he had heard a director day `Cut.' He started like one who
is having a difficulty in believing his ears.
`I beg your pardon?'
`Didn't you have one some time ago?'
`You are thinking of the San Francisco Fire of 1906.'
`Oh, It was a fire, was it?'
`A fire,' said Mr Trout firmly. `Earthquakes are absolutely unknown in
California.'"
Pongo.
--
pad...@westnet.com
fmr...@ma.ultranet.com (Jean Tillson) wrote:
>Boko thoughtlessly wrote:
>>...on a road that leads to the exceedingly attractive Dulwich Village
>>-- good place for a tipple and half a game pie on a sunny Sunday
>>afternoon. And there's a really quirky collection housed in an Art
>>Nouveau building nearby, called the Horniman Museum...
>STOP IT! JUST STOP IT, WILL YOU?!!! Dammit, it's NOT a sunny Sunday
>afternoon in England, it's a rotten, rainy, drizzly Monday morning
>in America and the comparison just seems intolerable to me today.
>Boko, how can you be so blithe in describing this earthly paradise?
>"Might be all right for half a day", forsooth! No, no, I can't
>bear it...
>Pighooey, who has had quite enough of March, thank you very much.
Jean, its never, never rotten, rainy, drizzly Monday morning when you are
with a Wodehouse. Think : of the best damn brew at the Emsworth Arms
(after a invigorating walk from the Blandings Castle), of Sam (the Sudden)
wooing whats her name at the Barribaults, of Freddie losing yet another girl
(a blessing for the fairer sex in general), of Dr.Sally seeing the light
(and saying yes), of Ukridge picking up a ripe tomato (passing it on to a
pan handler, with a few coins, borrowed ofcourse).
All these and more ..... those rainy, rotten drizzly Monday mornings are but
a nasty dream....going going gone
pad...@westnet.com
From: pad...@westnet.com
Subject: Re: Wodehouse travel|???
Newsgroups: alt.fan.wodehouse
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:39:11 GMT
fmr...@ma.ultranet.com (Jean Tillson) wrote:
>>Boko thoughtlessly wrote:
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Baselight
Dear Mr Fink-Nottle,
While I cannot supply the recipe for Jeeves's pick-me-up, I believe a
suitable facsimile could be arrived at by mixing a raw egg, some Tabasco
pepper sauce, a goodish bit of sherry (good stuff, not the cooking kind),
Worcestershire sauce (gives it colour), and two crumbled aspirins.
"Help me Obi-Wan,"
Rev. Francis Heppenstall
The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
Keith Ehrle
On 21 Mar 1997 13:00:14 GMT, base...@aol.com (Baselight) wrote:
>Dear assembled masses,
>
>I had announced to some of my reading pals that I am starting up a Miami
>chapter of the Wodehouse Society. This is the reply I got: "Why would you
>want to go and do a thing like that?" I mean to say, what?
>
>Why can't a brilliant British humourist be taken "seriously"? Have any of
>you birds in the metrop faced similar derision or is the south Florida
>area a vacuum of cultural activity as I suspected?
>
>Ever yours,
>
>Rev. Francis Heppenstall
>The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
<sigh> Sorry, I think its Florida. Last summer a FL aunt (my Aunt
Sally, actually) explained in great detail how one chooses good
reading material. It seems the preferred method is to skim the first
few pages to find said novel's time period. If it is set prior to
1800, it will be a good book, as research into the period went into
its creation.
Upon my offer to lend, in this order, Canterbury Tales, Le Morte
D'Arthur, The Odyssey and the complete works of an upstart named
Shakespeare, I was met with the question 'Did the authors do good
research?' Well, she did recognize the name Shakespeare, so there is
hope.
It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
Keith Ehrle
Baselight
base...@aol.com
From: base...@aol.com (Baselight)
Subject: Re: March and everything after
Newsgroups: alt.fan.wodehouse
Dear Mr Fink-Nottle,
While I cannot supply the recipe for Jeeves's pick-me-up, I believe a
suitable facsimile could be arrived at by mixing a raw egg, some Tabasco
pepper sauce, a goodish bit of sherry (good stuff, not the cooking kind),
Worcestershire sauce (gives it colour), and two crumbled aspirins.
"Help me Obi-Wan,"
Rev. Francis Heppenstall
The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
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From: k...@voyager.net (Keith Ehrle)
Subject: Re: Miami PGW group
Newsgroups: alt.fan.wodehouse
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:31:52 GMT
On 21 Mar 1997 13:00:14 GMT, base...@aol.com (Baselight) wrote:
>>Dear assembled masses,
>>
>>I had announced to some of my reading pals that I am starting up a Miami
>>chapter of the Wodehouse Society. This is the reply I got: "Why would you
>>want to go and do a thing like that?" I mean to say, what?
>>
>>Why can't a brilliant British humourist be taken "seriously"? Have any of
>>you birds in the metrop faced similar derision or is the south Florida
>>area a vacuum of cultural activity as I suspected?
>>
>>Ever yours,
>>
>>Rev. Francis Heppenstall
>>The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
<sigh> Sorry, I think its Florida. Last summer a FL aunt (my Aunt
Sally, actually) explained in great detail how one chooses good
reading material. It seems the preferred method is to skim the first
few pages to find said novel's time period. If it is set prior to
1800, it will be a good book, as research into the period went into
its creation.
Upon my offer to lend, in this order, Canterbury Tales, Le Morte
D'Arthur, The Odyssey and the complete works of an upstart named
Shakespeare, I was met with the question 'Did the authors do good
research?' Well, she did recognize the name Shakespeare, so there is
hope.
It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
Keith Ehrle
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From: base...@aol.com (Baselight)
Subject: Miami PGW group
Newsgroups: alt.fan.wodehouse
Date: 21 Mar 1997 13:00:14 GMT
Dear assembled masses,
I had announced to some of my reading pals that I am starting up a Miami
chapter of the Wodehouse Society. This is the reply I got: "Why would you
want to go and do a thing like that?" I mean to say, what?
Why can't a brilliant British humourist be taken "seriously"? Have any of
you birds in the metrop faced similar derision or is the south Florida
area a vacuum of cultural activity as I suspected?
Ever yours,
Rev. Francis Heppenstall
The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
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JMGarciaJr
What response HAVE you gotten? I beg to remain yours
Subtropically,
Baselight
Mr Ehrle replied:
>>><sigh> Sorry, I think its Florida. Last summer a FL aunt (my Aunt
Sally, actually) explained in great detail how one chooses good
reading material.
>>It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
Dear Mr Ehrle,
Ugghh!!! I received a sharp chill as I read the bit about "large grinning
rodents." My wife teases me often about my dislike for "Walt's Wierd
World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things Disney-related?
I must go and run hot water under my head.
Yours ever,
Richard Ian Stessel
I suppose it falls upon we academics to throw cold water on so much in
this modern, post-war world. Sigh. However, here on the Colonial side of
the Pond, the use of raw eggs is considered very dangerous. These
micro-biologist chappies could fill you in, but one is warned against the
risk of salmonella, and other nasty items. In most restaurants, to the
horror of all the right-thinking, the warning extends to soft-boiled eggs
(no longer available).
Luckily (or not) such somber pronouncements are within character.
Pringle.
On 21 Mar 1997, Baselight wrote:
> Dear Mr Fink-Nottle,
>
> While I cannot supply the recipe for Jeeves's pick-me-up, I believe a
> suitable facsimile could be arrived at by mixing a raw egg, some Tabasco
> pepper sauce, a goodish bit of sherry (good stuff, not the cooking kind),
> Worcestershire sauce (gives it colour), and two crumbled aspirins.
>
> "Help me Obi-Wan,"
>
>
> Rev. Francis Heppenstall
> The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
>
>
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From: base...@aol.com (Baselight)
Subject: Re: Miami PGW group
Newsgroups: alt.fan.wodehouse
Date: 24 Mar 1997 21:48:51 GMT
Dear Mr Ehrle,
Yours ever,
Rev. Francis Heppenstall
The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
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<<Ugghh!!! I received a sharp chill as I read the bit about "large
grinning rodents." My wife teases me often about my dislike for "Walt's
Wierd World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things
Disney-related? I must go and run hot water under my head.
Yours ever,
Rev. Francis Heppenstall
The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.>>
Well, look at it this way...your hatred of Disneyfication is such that it
seems to countebalance my feelings on the matter. I beg to remain yours
Rodently,
Jim Skrydlak
Baselight wrote:
> My wife teases me often about my dislike for "Walt's Wierd
> World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things Disney-related?
Possibly, but you're not alone. I think that the world would be
a better place today had Walt Disney been strangled in his crib.
Ern
k...@voyager.net
In article <19970324214...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
base...@aol.com (Baselight) wrote:
>
> >>It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
>
> Dear Mr Ehrle,
>
> World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things Disney-related?
>
>
> Yours ever,
>
> Rev. Francis Heppenstall
> The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
I must say, its a bit of a relief to find another mouse hater! Only I
feel shudders, not chills. And the happy, jolly music contributes
horrors of its own.
I recommend brandy, myself.
Keith Ehrle
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<<Ugghh!!! I received a sharp chill as I read the bit about "large
grinning rodents." My wife teases me often about my dislike for "Walt's
Wierd World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things
Disney-related? I must go and run hot water under my head.
Yours ever,
Rev. Francis Heppenstall
The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.>>
Well, look at it this way...your hatred of Disneyfication is such that it
seems to countebalance my feelings on the matter. I beg to remain yours
Rodently,
A Young Man In Spats
c/o The Drones Club
16 Dover Street
London, W1
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Subject: Re: Miami PGW group
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Baselight wrote:
>> My wife teases me often about my dislike for "Walt's Wierd
>> World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things Disney-related?
Possibly, but you're not alone. I think that the world would be
a better place today had Walt Disney been strangled in his crib.
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Keith Ehrle wrote:
>
> On 21 Mar 1997 13:00:14 GMT, base...@aol.com (Baselight) wrote:
<snip>
> It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
Talking of extended families of rodents, has anybody noticed that the
voices in the disney movies of the last few years are more
contemporary. Something about Gargoyles and lion cubs talking in an
accent that brings to mind the less reputable alleys of New York makes
me shudder.
Stephanie Bing
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From: k...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: Miami PGW group
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In article <19970324214...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
base...@aol.com (Baselight) wrote:
>>
>> >>It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
>>
>> Dear Mr Ehrle,
>>
>> Ugghh!!! I received a sharp chill as I read the bit about "large grinning
>> rodents." My wife teases me often about my dislike for "Walt's Wierd
>> World." Am I over-reacting in my hatred for all things Disney-related?
>>
>> I must go and run hot water under my head.
>>
>> Yours ever,
>>
>> Rev. Francis Heppenstall
>> The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
I must say, its a bit of a relief to find another mouse hater! Only I
feel shudders, not chills. And the happy, jolly music contributes
horrors of its own.
I recommend brandy, myself.
Keith Ehrle
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Baselight
Mr Ehrle replied to my reply:
>>>>>>>I must say, its a bit of a relief to find another mouse hater!
Only I feel shudders, not chills. And the happy, jolly music contributes
horrors of its own.
>>
>>I recommend brandy, myself.
My dear Mr Ehrle,
I have always prided myself as a liberal feminist sort of chappie. The
thing that bothers me the most about Walt's Wierdos (and there are so many
things) is its portrayal of the female species in so many of its "magical
masterpieces". (I must digress and mention the Disney empire's glib use of
the words "magic", "classic", and "masterpiece". Who says they are
masterpieces?)
Disney has always maintained that a woman cannot be entirely "complete"
until she has snagged her man (take, for a single instance, "Pocahontas").
I find this offensive and degrading to women in general.
Stepping down from my soapbox, I remain yours,
Baselight
Mr Pringle bunged in:
>>>>>However, here on the Colonial side of the Pond, the use of raw eggs
is considered very dangerous. These micro-biologist chappies could fill
you in, but one is warned against the risk of salmonella, and other nasty
items.
Dear Mr Pringle,
Oh, dear. Perhaps that explains the constant bellyache that plagues me so.
A few too many of Jeeves' p-m-u's, I suppose.
Yours ever,
JMGarciaJr
The good Rev. Heppenstall wrote:
<<Well, truthfully, the only TRUE response I have received from a.f.w. is
from a chappie by the name of Robinson (who may have been seen lurking
about using the alias of Ron Satterfield). The other two posted
anonymously (don't ask) and I've not heard from either since.
So, if you attend, Robinson, and myself, that makes three. That's enough
for tea, that's enough for me! Eight or more would be ideal.>>
Two wholly unrelated thoughts have overtaken me:
1- We could have the anonymous respondents amongst those assembled, should
they wish, blue dots would be provided to better disguise their identity.
2- I was thinking more along the lines of gin & tonic, after which we
could make bitter jokes at the expense of those who didn't want to appear.
I beg to remain yours
Subtropically,
Baselight
AYMIS wrote:
>>>>>>>What response HAVE you gotten?
Dear Spats,
Well, truthfully, the only TRUE response I have received from a.f.w. is
from a chappie by the name of Robinson (who may have been seen lurking
about using the alias of Ron Satterfield). The other two posted
anonymously (don't ask) and I've not heard from either since.
So, if you attend, Robinson, and myself, that makes three. That's enough
for tea, that's enough for me! Eight or more would be ideal.
Yours,
ron...@herald.infi.net
On 27 Mar 1997 17:43:54 GMT, jmgar...@aol.com (JMGarciaJr) wrote:
..
>1- We could have the anonymous respondents amongst those assembled, should
>they wish, blue dots would be provided to better disguise their identity.
No longer lurking, I thought it would be friendly to make my first
posting in quite a while. I find it hard to believe that there are so
few afw-ers and Wodehouse-o-philes here in this remote corner of
her/his Brittanic Majesty's former domains. Certainly there are more
of us?
And speaking of favorite authors (which I don't suppose I actually
was), I am surprised that no one has until now nominated Robert
Benchley and Charles Merrill Smith to the ranks of the admired.
Benchley and PGW certainly crossed paths in Hollywood or New York; I
wonder if there's any recollection of it. And Smith and Wodehouse
meeting is not out of the question.
A bit southwest of the Drones, amongst the palms and palmettos, I
remain,
Robinson
Keith Ehrle
On 27 Mar 1997 16:20:08 GMT, base...@aol.com (Baselight) wrote:
>My dear Mr Ehrle,
>
>I have always prided myself as a liberal feminist sort of chappie. The
>thing that bothers me the most about Walt's Wierdos (and there are so many
>things) is its portrayal of the female species in so many of its "magical
>masterpieces". (I must digress and mention the Disney empire's glib use of
>the words "magic", "classic", and "masterpiece". Who says they are
>masterpieces?)
>
>Disney has always maintained that a woman cannot be entirely "complete"
>until she has snagged her man (take, for a single instance, "Pocahontas").
>I find this offensive and degrading to women in general.
>
>Stepping down from my soapbox, I remain yours,
>
>
>Rev. Francis Heppenstall
>The Vicarage, Twing, Glos.
Dear Rev. Heppenstall,
I'm not sure 'liberal feminist' is quite the description I would place
on myself, although I certainly believe in a level playing field, so
to speak. But not having a man such as Jeeves about the place to do
these things, I've found that holding the occasional door for a lady
can have charms of its own.
I also believe that a man who lets himself get snagged has been
degraded just as much as the woman that snagged him.
You may take 'Pocahontas.' I prefer to leave her where she is.
Somewhat Chauvinistically,
Keith Ehrle
JMGarciaJr
<< I am surprised that no one has until now nominated Robert
Benchley>>
Ah, yes...a sterling writer and excellent all-around wit. I beg to remain
yours
Algonquinally,
JMGarciaJr
<<You may take 'Pocahontas.' I prefer to leave her where she is.>>
A broad view of the matter. Then again, being of the "libertarian" (Note,
not "Libertarian") sort I am deeply gratified when people do as they see
fit.
Baselight
Robinson cordially wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I am surprised that no one has until now nominated Robert
Well, well, Mr Robinson,
I have a couple of "first editions" of Robert Benchley's works myself. One
even has a thread of a dust jacket attached. I believe the two tomes are
called *Chips Off the Old Benchley* and *Benchley Beside Himself.* One is
better than the other, though it's been a long time since I've read
them--I can't remember which one. I picked them up for (brace yourself) 50
US cents each at an antique market in New English colonies. And they say
there aren't any bargains around . . .
Inside the books there are some wonderful still photos of R.B. performing
in 1940's "B" movies. I haven't seen any of these dubious films; he
actually had small bits in some better movies, though I cannot think of
their names at present.
Yours ever,
ron...@herald.infi.net
It is great to know that I am not the only one in this neck of the
(geographic or web) woods who likes Benchley as well as Wodehouse. I
first discovered them both many long years ago, when books were still
inscribed on cave walls and the like. And better yet, the books were
often at used bookstores. And of course, my PGWs beginning with
Cocktail Time (my first and still favorite, and why I am still an
Uncle Fred fan) were carried at new bookstores everywhere. Enough
reminiscing.
Watching the passing parade,
far from the Drones and Ickenham Hall,
Robinson
Alan S. Wicks
Greetings
GASP!!
>However, here on the Colonial side of
>the Pond, the use of raw eggs is considered very dangerous. These
>micro-biologist chappies could fill you in,
What ever do you do about eggnog? Cooked eggs would make it a bit lumpy
I would think.
I am,
sincerely yours,
Professor Binstead (born Alan S. Wicks)
Baselight
Robinson cried:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And of course, my PGWs beginning with
Cocktail Time (my first and still favorite, and why I am still an
Uncle Fred fan) were carried at new bookstores everywhere. Enough
reminiscing.
My dear Robinson,
I am proud you wear your age on your sleeve. I was conceived perhaps forty
years beyond the first rolling out of J&W books, nonetheless, I enjoy them
because they are timeless. Benchley's are somewhat dated, but in a
charming way. I especially like the Christmas at Grandma's in Connecticut
(?) story. I am puzzled that other early-thirty-somethings (God, how I
hate that distinction, that word!) have not joined me in my love for these
early 20th c. books. They just remark, "oh, you're reading another of
those dingy books again."
Affectionately yours,
Merideth Kelley
Must stick my oar in here. The above warning should say "...dangerous
*for certain people*" If the digestive and immune systems are working
properly and the eggs in question are consumed in moderation (and have
been properly stored), one would not expect grave problems.
Lady Terry Cobbold
Who had to boil an emergency half dozen last Sunday because the E. bunny's
efforts were very C3 soft-boiled.
gram
Alan S. Wicks (asw...@eskimo.com) wrote:
:
: >However, here on the Colonial side of
: >the Pond, the use of raw eggs is considered very dangerous. These
: >micro-biologist chappies could fill you in,
:
: What ever do you do about eggnog? Cooked eggs would make it a bit lumpy
: I would think.
Yes, but eggnog generally contains a certain amount of antiseptic.
--
Ward Griffiths
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails
of the last priest." [Denis Diderot, "Dithyrambe sur la fete de rois"]
Richard Ian Stessel
One does wonder. The containers claim the contents to be Pasteurized, but
how that avoids becoming scrambled-eggnog is a mystery to me.
Pringle
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Alan S. Wicks wrote:
> Greetings
>
> GASP!!
>
> >However, here on the Colonial side of
> >the Pond, the use of raw eggs is considered very dangerous. These
> >micro-biologist chappies could fill you in,
>
> What ever do you do about eggnog? Cooked eggs would make it a bit lumpy
> I would think.
>
> I am,
> sincerely yours,
> Professor Binstead (born Alan S. Wicks)
>
>
>
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gram
Stephanie Bing (tha...@netscape.com) wrote:
:
: > It must be all the large grinning rodents in Disney World.
: Talking of extended families of rodents, has anybody noticed that the
: voices in the disney movies of the last few years are more
: contemporary. Something about Gargoyles and lion cubs talking in an
: accent that brings to mind the less reputable alleys of New York makes
: me shudder.
I refer any not-quite-fans of the Disney rodent population to URl
<http://www.negia.net/~issachar/secret/mickey.html>.
Neil Midkiff
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Richard Ian Stessel <ste...@eng.usf.edu> writes:
:
:One does wonder. The containers claim the contents to be Pasteurized, but
:how that avoids becoming scrambled-eggnog is a mystery to me.
:On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Alan S. Wicks wrote:
:> >However, here on the Colonial side of
:> >the Pond, the use of raw eggs is considered very dangerous. These
:> >micro-biologist chappies could fill you in,
:>
:> What ever do you do about eggnog? Cooked eggs would make it a bit lumpy
:> I would think.
For those who simply must have the straight story on this, see Harold
McGee's book _The Curious Cook_. He describes a method for heating
eggs to a temperature where any salmonella bacilli will be killed, but
which won't cook the egg. It involves careful use of a microwave oven
and frequent stirring, as well as rapid chilling after achieving the
needed temperature.
I don't recall him mentioning eggnog, but he does use the pasteurized
eggs for making mayonnaise in the old-fashioned method, so I'll bet
that they'd work just as well in eggnog.
-Neil Midkiff