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ALADDIN'S ORIGINAL ENDING; What do you think?

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Eric Wong

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Dec 4, 1994, 5:56:09 AM12/4/94
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For those of you who recently purchased "The Music behind the Magic" boxed set
you may have heard the unreleased master of "Arabian Nights reprise" that was
supposed to end the story in Aladdin.
Scratching the last song Disney left the storyteller hanging.
Perhaps they did it because they wanted the last song in our heads to be the
chorus singing the love theme as they did in BatB and TLM.
The question is: What ending do you prefer?


Eric

Tad Stones

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Dec 4, 1994, 6:03:49 PM12/4/94
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The final chorus of the peddler's song ends the D2V, ALADDIN AND THE KING
OF THIEVES (sometimes known as ALADDIN AND THE 40 THIEVES).

The video will be on sale October of '95.

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Sherline Lee

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Dec 5, 1994, 1:58:16 AM12/5/94
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In article <duckmanD...@netcom.com>,

Tad Stones <duc...@netcom.com> wrote:
>The final chorus of the peddler's song ends the D2V, ALADDIN AND THE KING
>OF THIEVES (sometimes known as ALADDIN AND THE 40 THIEVES).
>
>The video will be on sale October of '95.
>
Yay! Tad has posted :)
For those who don't know. Tad is the producer of the Aladdin
animated series as well as RoJ. :)

Wow, Tad, I think you're the first big namer to post :)

That and Lea Salonga a while back :)


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Heather Dawn Stehman

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Dec 5, 1994, 11:25:14 AM12/5/94
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sher...@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sherline Lee) writes:

>In article <duckmanD...@netcom.com>,
>Tad Stones <duc...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>The final chorus of the peddler's song ends the D2V, ALADDIN AND THE KING
>>OF THIEVES (sometimes known as ALADDIN AND THE 40 THIEVES).
>>
>>The video will be on sale October of '95.

Hi! I was wondering if this is the same "ending" that I sung a few years
back. My Chorale did a Disney show, and the ending lyrics for "Arabian
Nights" are (if memory serves :)

So it goes, short and sweet,
They were wed down the street.
May their marriage be truly blessed.

Here's a kiss and hug,
Sure you don't need a rug?
I assure you the price is right.

Well, salom (sp?) worthy friends,
Come back soon, that's the end,
'Til another--Arabian Night!! (lots of caterwauling :)

I assumed that this ending cut back to the street peddler wrapping up the
tale that he started. At first, I wondered why Disney did not use this
ending, but then I realized that it would not be "consistent" with all
their other recent releases (i.e., big, or should I say small, screaming
chorus reprise of love theme--with the exception of TLK, which is not about
romance--yeah, right ;) (BTW, "screaming" is not an insult to the arranger
or the singers. It's just that I'm a soprano; I'm allowed to say stuff like
that :)

Forgive this post if it's a repeat!

-Heather
FDC Pounce-around Adult Nala (I know, too many :)'s )
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Charles P. Buchanan

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Dec 5, 1994, 7:41:25 PM12/5/94
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I wonder if they'll reveal that the peddler is really the Genie in ALADDIN
AND THE KING OF THIEVES, like they were planning to do with the reprise of
"Arabian Nights." Guess I'll have to see the D2V! :)

--Charles Buchanan
Future Disney Cabinet Official Duck (another Duckman)
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CHRISTOPHER M MILES

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Dec 5, 1994, 9:06:50 PM12/5/94
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> Hi! I was wondering if this is the same "ending" that I sung a few years
> back. My Chorale did a Disney show, and the ending lyrics for "Arabian
> Nights" are (if memory serves :)

{song deleted}

> I assumed that this ending cut back to the street peddler wrapping up the
> tale that he started. At first, I wondered why Disney did not use this
> ending, but then I realized that it would not be "consistent" with all
> their other recent releases (i.e., big, or should I say small, screaming
> chorus reprise of love theme--with the exception of TLK, which is not about
> romance--yeah, right ;) (BTW, "screaming" is not an insult to the arranger
> or the singers. It's just that I'm a soprano; I'm allowed to say stuff like
> that :)

Well from what I understood, the original ending was going to cut back to the
peddler, who would reveal to the audience that he is really the Genie (after
all, the peddler was Robin Williams' voice) ... Anyway, the film was already a
few thousands over budget, so they decided to scrap the ending, and add the
"Made you look" segment instead. I would have preferred the original ending,
being the huge Genie fan I am, but that's water under the bridge... :)

*POOF*
Chris
FDC Googi, Genie of the Ring

Tad Stones

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Dec 6, 1994, 1:04:53 AM12/6/94
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At the risk of losing a sale of the video, we're not saying the peddler
is the Genie. I considered it but it wouldn't make sense in the
continuity of the movie or the series.

In the original movie it would have made perfect sense, since the peddler
was telling a story of his past.

AlWeHo

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Dec 6, 1994, 2:50:56 PM12/6/94
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>>Chris said: Anyway, the film was already a few thousands
>>over budget, so they decided to scrap the ending, and add
>>the "Made you look" segment instead.

That is incorrect. The ending was changed when test audiences started
getting out of their seats and leaving the theater at the end.

The new ending kept all the kids seated until the credits rolled.

Al
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Charles P. Buchanan

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Dec 6, 1994, 9:14:02 PM12/6/94
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Heh! Lose a sale with ME on a Disney item? :) I'm collecting all the
episodes of "Aladdin: The Series" on videotape, so I'll definitely be buying
the 2nd D2V for Aladdin...Thanks for the insight, though! ;)

--Charles Buchanan
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Jens A. Hage

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Dec 8, 1994, 3:30:23 AM12/8/94
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Sherline Lee (sher...@merle.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: In article <duckmanD...@netcom.com>,

: Tad Stones <duc...@netcom.com> wrote:
: >The final chorus of the peddler's song ends the D2V, ALADDIN AND THE KING
: >OF THIEVES (sometimes known as ALADDIN AND THE 40 THIEVES).
: >
: >The video will be on sale October of '95.
: >
: Yay! Tad has posted :)
: For those who don't know. Tad is the producer of the Aladdin
: animated series as well as RoJ. :)

: Wow, Tad, I think you're the first big namer to post :)

: That and Lea Salonga a while back :)

Didn't Musker do a post last year? I think so, it should be somewhere in the
depths of my account. :) That post made my month. They like us. They really
like us!

Jens "Do not taunt happy fun" Hage

jado...@ice.lakeheadu.ca

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Dec 8, 1994, 3:10:59 PM12/8/94
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In article <3c0gvq$7...@doc.jmu.edu> CMM...@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M MILES) writes:
>From: CMM...@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M MILES)
>Subject: Re: ALADDIN'S ORIGINAL ENDING; What do you think?
>Date: 6 Dec 1994 02:06:50 GMT


> Well from what I understood, the original ending was going to cut back to the
>peddler, who would reveal to the audience that he is really the Genie (after
>all, the peddler was Robin Williams' voice) ...

bridge... :)

>*POOF*
>Chris
>FDC Googi, Genie of the Ring

Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the voice of the peddlar was done
by Bruce Adler, not Robin Williams. It's easy to mistake the voice for
Robin's; when I first saw the movie I thought it was Robin too, but the
credits tell a different story.

Jules

Ethan Solomita

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Dec 8, 1994, 9:32:41 PM12/8/94
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In article <jadonnel....@ice.lakeheadu.ca>,

<jado...@ice.lakeheadu.ca> wrote:
>
>Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the voice of the peddlar was done
>by Bruce Adler, not Robin Williams. It's easy to mistake the voice for
>Robin's; when I first saw the movie I thought it was Robin too, but the
>credits tell a different story.
>
As with Aladdin and Jasmine, there was a separate singing
and narration voice. Williams did the peddler's opening spiel.
-- Ethan


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Susan C. Mitchell

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Dec 9, 1994, 5:51:58 AM12/9/94
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Tad Stones (duc...@netcom.com) wrote:
: At the risk of losing a sale of the video, we're not saying the peddler
: is the Genie. I considered it but it wouldn't make sense in the
: continuity of the movie or the series.

: In the original movie it would have made perfect sense, since the peddler
: was telling a story of his past.

And since we had already seen the peddler pour a handful of glittering
crystals out of the lamp and throw them into the sky; THAT'S MAGIC.
Genie magic.

Think globally, act locally.
Susan

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Cosmik

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Dec 9, 1994, 11:23:59 AM12/9/94
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Personally, I liked the original ending better than the sappy, typical
Disney ending with the two lovebirds and the soaring chorus in the wind.
As innovative as Disney is, and as much as they're improving the art of
storytelling in an animated medium, it's too bad they didn't have the guts
to trust Ashman and Menkin's vision.

And have you heard the incidental reprises they wrote for the very
original submitted version of Aladdin? WONDERFUL stuff!!!!!! I don't
think multi-reprises of Arabian Nights would have served the film as well,
but the bookending was a neat idea. Of course, then what would the
sequels have used? ;)

Chris
FDC Show Director

CHRISTOPHER M MILES

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Dec 9, 1994, 3:56:41 PM12/9/94
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> In article <3c0gvq$7...@doc.jmu.edu> CMM...@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M MILES) writes:
> >From: CMM...@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M MILES)
> >Subject: Re: ALADDIN'S ORIGINAL ENDING; What do you think?
> >Date: 6 Dec 1994 02:06:50 GMT
>
>
> > Well from what I understood, the original ending was going to cut back to the
> >peddler, who would reveal to the audience that he is really the Genie (after
> >all, the peddler was Robin Williams' voice) ...
> bridge... :)
>
> >*POOF*
> >Chris
> >FDC Googi, Genie of the Ring
>
> Hey, correct me if I'm wrong,
Ok, you're wrong. :)

> but I thought the voice of the peddlar was done
> by Bruce Adler, not Robin Williams. It's easy to mistake the voice for
> Robin's; when I first saw the movie I thought it was Robin too, but the
> credits tell a different story.

No Robin did do his voice, just not the singing...

>
> Jules

Steven Soria

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Dec 6, 1994, 11:16:31 PM12/6/94
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Re: ALADDIN'S ORIGINAL ENDING; What do you think?

> Perhaps they did it because they wanted the last song in our heads to be the
> chorus singing the love theme as they did in BatB and TLM.
> The question is: What ending do you prefer?

The original ending didn't survive the final editing process because test
audiences got up and left right after they saw Aladdin and Jasmine on the
carpet at the very end. Everyone assumed that what is now the end of the
movie *was* the end of the movie even then.

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Christopher Wong

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Dec 10, 1994, 10:26:15 PM12/10/94
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In article <3budm8$6...@news.acns.nwu.edu>,

Sherline Lee <sher...@merle.acns.nwu.edu> wrote:
>
>That and Lea Salonga a while back :)
>

Uh ... what!?

This is what I get for not reading this newsgroup regularly :-). Did I
miss a major post?

Chris

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