Freud
Mey K.
Super Ego.
Later!,
Mey K.
David A. Green
"Mey K." <kr...@inter.net.il> wrote in message
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Pioneer neurologist Sigmund Freud = Oedipus urge: mount one's girlfriend.
Larry Brash
The Pioneer neurologist Sigmund Freud =
Redefining Oedipus urge: no Mother lust!
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Phil Carmody
Sorry, utterly off-topic here.
There's no reason for "ones" to have an apostrophe.
(Though the smartest IE linguist I know wasn't prepared to say that it
mustn't, as it does seem to be creeping into the language by the back
door. Descriptive, not prescriptive or proscriptive...)
Hmmm, I can't post without the obligatory, so here goes...
Indoeuropean Linguistics=
Dictionaries use pun lingo.
IOU description, inane slug.
Hippy Micro Lad
Mick Tully
"Phil Carmody" <fatphil_witho...@altavista.com> wrote in message
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Errant apostrophe's? :¬)
Some time ago, The Daily Telegraph carried extended correspondence about
'the errant apostrophe' on it's letter pages. All the while a Telegraph
Reader's Offer for "Classical CD's" appeared on another page. I was going
to write, but I think that might have been too hypocritical!
The errant apostrophe =
To report present? Ha ha!
By great coincidence today's column has a letter from a Manchester reader:
SIR - The board giving deckchair hire charges in St James's Park offers
special rates to "OAP's and Family's".
Rick Rothstein
=
Report that one phrase.
Parent to other phrase.
Note other phrase part.
... or note the phrase part.
Note the phrase parrot.
O! To her phrase pattern.
Phrase, root-pattern, eh?
The proper "that reason".
Rick
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<fatphil_witho...@altavista.com> writes:
>Sorry, utterly off-topic here.
>There's no reason for "ones" to have an apostrophe.
Eh? The reason is the same as for any arbitrary spelling
convention: that's how educated users spell it. It's not
'creeping into the language by the back door'; the *only*
correct possessive of 'one' is 'one's'. This has been
true on both sides of the Atlantic for well over a century
(at the least); the OED twice explicitly gives 'one's', and only
'one's', as the possessive of the indefinite pronoun, and
I noticed no citation of 'ones' more recent than the 1600s.
The spelling 'oneself' is commoner than 'one's self', but
that's a different story.
Am I missing something?
Acag, Treesong (ucal...@aol.com)
David A. Green
Surely you drop the apostrophe for plurals (eg "Anagrams - Phil Carmody
makes up all the best ones") and retain it for the genitive (eg "One's
vocabulary needs constant fertilizing or it will die" - Evelyn Waugh). My
Longman Guide to English Usage (1996) supports the usage of the apostrophe
in constructing the genitive of "one".
David A. Green
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Brilliant! PEOPLE'S NAME NOM.
Wayne Baisley
> Pioneer Neurologist Sigmund Freud =
> Turn in rules of mind: Id, Ego, Super Ego.
Excellent! Mine tend to be somewhat ruder, I'm afraid ...
Touring the impure delusions of gender
Son in dire need of mother: guilt upsurge
Ruinous urge to merge in fields, the pond
Time-honoured pursuit of single gender
Inglorious remounters feeding the pud
Grounded in the pursuit of Simon Legree?
The Middle-Finger-Goes-Up Reunion Tours
Fems lose In-N-Out Urge during the period?
Cheers,
Wayne
Larry Brash
> > The Pioneer neurologist Sigmund Freud =
> > Redefining Oedipus urge: no Mother lust!
> Brilliant! PEOPLE'S NAME NOM.
Thanks, David and thanks for the idea of Oedipus urge. When you found
Oedipus, I knew his Mum must have been around somewhere.
Larry Brash
>
> > "Mey K." wrote:
> > Pioneer Neurologist Sigmund Freud =
> > Turn in rules of mind: Id, Ego, Super Ego.
>
> Excellent! Mine tend to be somewhat ruder, I'm afraid ...
>
> The Middle-Finger-Goes-Up Reunion Tours
Classic Baisley! How DO you think of them?
Wayne Baisley
> The Pioneer Neurologist Sigmund Freud =
> > The Middle-Finger-Goes-Up Reunion Tours
>
> Classic Baisley! How DO you think of them?
Childhood traumas account for most of it, I suppose. ;-)
Even when I don't find time to anagram, I'm usually still
adding oddments to my dictionary, like 'Reunion Tour' and
'middle finger goes up'. Especially phrases having to do
with cultural phenomena and puns. So when the right phrase
comes along, the silliness percolates to the top. Nothing
to it. Hours of mindless fun!
Cheers,
Wayne
I've childhood traumata =
Virtual-Head-O-Matic -- Doh!
Mey K.
> > "Mey K." wrote:
> > Pioneer Neurologist Sigmund Freud =
> > Turn in rules of mind: Id, Ego, Super Ego.
>
> Excellent! Mine tend to be somewhat ruder, I'm afraid ...
>
> Touring the impure delusions of gender
Christ, there's nothing but goodies from this phrase! Another smashing 'gram!
It'll be fun to see all of these run against eachother. Name Nom, Wayne!
Later,
Mey K.
Larry Brash
>
> Pioneer Neurologist Sigmund Freud = Turn in rules of mind: Id, Ego,
> Super Ego.
While he started out as a neurologist, he was a pioneer in Psychoanalysis
The pioneer Psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud =
Oedipal phase: Funny. Try seducing Mothers.
Phil Carmody
Yes. A several-hour long discussion about the topic with several members
of the Cambridge University linguistics cabal, who were able to rewind
the clock about a millennium earlier than any of the above, and out into
many non-English languages (the route into English that the inflected
form took isn't precisely known). All the linguists round the table
were, shall we say "educated users" of the language. I believed all
participants received a summary e-mail the next day which contained the
arguments for and against, and also the conclusion. I don't believe I
would have deleted that mail, but as I've changed jobs about 3 times
since then, I have no idea where the summary would be. I do remember the
conclusion though - whoever first apostrophised it did it unnecessarily.
The back door has been open for a very long time, that's not in doubt.
The simplest (thought not watertight) anti-apostrophe argument was "what
letter was removed?". (The genetive inflection of "John", say, used to
be "Johnes", and that was contracted to "John's" - the apostrophe _does_
typically indicate the dropping of letters.)
That's on its own would be enough reason for me to put the same number
of apostrophes in "ones" as I do in "its", "hers", "theirs" and "ours".
Note, however, I am happy to break other 'standards' too, if I believe
that the accepted form is both contrived and less logical than the
pattern-following, perfectly logical and self-evident but 'wrong' form.
I believe the root of the issue were some threads in a.u.e. I was
shocked by some of the nonsense people were saying in a "ones" vs.
"one's" discussion. They were all pro-"one's", but they were all giving
totally bogus reasons. With an open mind, I went running to my favourite
linguist, who took it upon himself to find out not just the state, but
the history of the issue. That evening we all had a very enlightening
discussion (for all parties).
Phil
Phil Carmody
>
> "Mey K." wrote:
> >
> > Pioneer Neurologist Sigmund Freud = Turn in rules of mind: Id, Ego,
> > Super Ego.
>
> While he started out as a neurologist, he was a pioneer in Psychoanalysis
>
> The pioneer Psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud =
>
> Oedipal phase: Funny. Try seducing Mothers.
Certainly a (name) NOM. This indeed is a fruitful hunting-ground.
Not having a great deal of respect (ahem, double plus understatement)
for Freud, myself:
"Pioneer" Psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud=
Dangerously stupid faeces in Mr. Hypno.
Phil
Wayne Baisley
>
> While he started out as a neurologist, he was a pioneer in Psychoanalysis
>
> The pioneer Psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud =
>
> Oedipal phase: Funny. Try seducing Mothers.
Dipsy cheered Po. Smashingly unfortunate.
Dumpster Of Personality, Hygiene, and Such
Edmund's cheap, rusty hinge of personality
Foul internet induced happy orgasms? Yesh.
I see Frances' (highly too dumpy) underpants.
Large amounts of destiny, hyped in her cups
Once upon a midnight dreary: fleshy setups
Snug heartaches, profoundly empty inside
The erection of happiness. Smudgy laundry.
Unhandy smudges -- The price of personality
You mean Casper the friendly ghost? In puds!?
Your uncle's mind -- The tragedy of happiness
Cheers,
Wayne