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fruers

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Jun 11, 2001, 5:43:21 AM6/11/01
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I was talking to someone a few weeks ago about the progress being made in
human robotics and it got me thinking. I don't believe we'll jump straight
up to robots that are capable of artificial intelligence, i think there'll
be three major steps.
1. humanoid: Robotic conciousness in a human body
This hinges on the fact that the next step, a robotic body will be
'physically' limited in it's activities, we can program the body to be
capable of everyday tasks but outisde of these it will be prone to failure.
My own observation is that the majority of people are unknowingly being
manipulated/manipulating themselves into a robotic-like consciousness, very
rarely do people step outside of their everyday activities which will
eventually make the transition to the next step much easier.

2. android: Previously roboticised, but still organic consciousness in a
robotic body.

3. robot: Fully roboticised consciousness in a robotic body.

So if you're from australia and you've heard or do hear someone scream
"humanoid" at you or someone closeby, it'll be me acting like a nut...

eamon

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Jun 11, 2001, 7:38:33 AM6/11/01
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Fucking Australians............


(I'm in syd)
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Kr4k3n

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Jun 11, 2001, 7:27:11 AM6/11/01
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> So if you're from australia and you've heard or do hear someone scream
> "humanoid" at you or someone closeby, it'll be me acting like a nut...

yeah im from australia, and i may not have heard anyone scream humanoid at
me, but humanoid is the name of the piercing studio that i go to :)
-Kr4k3n


Ben Deane-Freeman

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Jun 11, 2001, 8:39:14 AM6/11/01
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Fucking Sydney-siders.............

(I'm in Melb)
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Kr4k3n

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Jun 11, 2001, 8:42:01 AM6/11/01
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> Fucking Sydney-siders.............
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> (I'm in Melb)

i second that motion ;)
-Kr4k3n


Heathen Jesus

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Jun 11, 2001, 8:54:42 AM6/11/01
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> Fucking Australians............

One of life's great past times.

:: Moose ::

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Jun 11, 2001, 10:46:22 AM6/11/01
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I've seen a program on computers who are capable of learing/evolving.

They get a bunch of 3d shapes and an instruction to "build something,
capable of motion" and they build something capable of motion. They keep
working, learning until they get something that works.

I thought that was kind of cool. Kind of like children which would be a big
step in the field.

Moose,
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horse

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Jun 11, 2001, 12:38:43 PM6/11/01
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> I was talking to someone a few weeks ago about the
> progress being made in
> human robotics and it got me thinking. I don't believe
> we'll jump straight
> up to robots that are capable of artificial intelligence,
> i think there'll
> be three major steps.
>

<snip x-noid discussion>

The irony of human scientists and engineers attempting
to build 'human like' intelligence into inanimate objects,
considering that the processes which collectively make
up 'intelligence' are very loosely understood, strikes me
as misdirected.

What I would like to see is some experimentation into the
hypothesis of formative causation and morphogenetic fields
as they relate to artificial intelligence. The bottom
line of these theories (made popular by Rupert Sheldrake)
is that form and function (function being 'memory',
'instinct', etc.) are contained in fields which somehow
exist around the mass of the object to which they have
been tuned into, with tuning provided mostly by the
organic masses commonly refered to as 'brain'. These
fields are otherwise undetectable and invisible (at least
in human/scientific perception). Thus the brain is
nothing more than a 'tuner'.. and THAT is where some
sort of x-noid AI robotic being could come in! Rather
than attempting to create some all inclusively aware
entity, why not set up an environment where the fields
of objects, organic and non-organic, provide the basis
for intelligence via their fields, and the entity need
only tune in?

Yeah, its radical.. but it sorta makes sense

-Horsentientbeing
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Oo aENiMa oo

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Jun 11, 2001, 1:09:49 PM6/11/01
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whoa, ok... mental note: some tool fans are transhumanists!!

zæck

p.s. i'm into physical evolution more than becoming an android or cyborg,
personally.

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