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William Boyd

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Nov 15, 2003, 10:26:36 PM11/15/03
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Well it took a while but they made a mistake, their cover is blown
RIVERBEND originates in the US just like I said from the beginning.
Their e-mail address is rive...@velocall.com. See if any of you
Sleuths can figure it out. Try is California Burning. To answer
their question "Is Something Burning?" Yes They or she can't cook
either.
--
Posted by HOPPIE, 30 Years Active Duty ,13 Campaigns Vietnam, Life
Member; Am.Lgn,DAV,VFW,AFSA

Freddy Sharp

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Nov 15, 2003, 11:33:51 PM11/15/03
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Rita wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:26:36 -0600, William Boyd <Ho...@Cowboy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Well it took a while but they made a mistake, their cover is blown
>>RIVERBEND originates in the US just like I said from the beginning.
>>Their e-mail address is rive...@velocall.com. See if any of you
>>Sleuths can figure it out. Try is California Burning. To answer
>>their question "Is Something Burning?" Yes They or she can't cook
>>either.
>
>

> Ever hear of free Email accounts?
>
> The Email address has always been the same. It is a free Email
> account which anyone, anywhere in the world, can sign up for.
> Like Hotmail or Yahoo.
>
> You can sign up yourself for a free Email account at these pages:
>
> http://www.velocall.com/
>
> http://ums.velocall.com/home/register.html
>
>
>
You Mised it SLEUTH...

jim

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Nov 16, 2003, 1:13:23 AM11/16/03
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:26:36 -0600 William Boyd William Boyd
<Ho...@Cowboy.net> wrote:

>Well it took a while but they made a mistake, their cover is blown
>RIVERBEND originates in the US just like I said from the beginning.
>Their e-mail address is rive...@velocall.com. See if any of you
>Sleuths can figure it out. Try is California Burning. To answer
>their question "Is Something Burning?" Yes They or she can't cook
>either.

dns velocall.com

velocall.com resolves to 203.147.62.60 203.147.62.61 203.147.62.59

www.velocall.com resolves to 203.147.62.61 203.147.62.59 203.147.62.60

Mail for velocall.com is handled by mail5.velocall.com (10)
203.147.62.36

whois -h magic velocall.com
velocall.com is registered with NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. - redirecting
to whois.networksolutions.com

whois -h whois.networksolutions.com velocall.com
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Domain Name: VELOCALL.COM

Administrative Contact:
Leemakdej, Arnat (AL8163) ar...@ECOM.MOC.GO.TH
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662-8841581 fax: 999 999 9999
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Chuay-On (CW1264-ORG) t...@VELOCALL.COM
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jim

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Nov 16, 2003, 1:15:42 AM11/16/03
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:18:57 GMT Rita Rita <mk...@myrealbox.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:26:36 -0600, William Boyd <Ho...@Cowboy.net> wrote:
>

>>Well it took a while but they made a mistake, their cover is blown
>>RIVERBEND originates in the US just like I said from the beginning.
>>Their e-mail address is rive...@velocall.com. See if any of you
>>Sleuths can figure it out. Try is California Burning. To answer
>>their question "Is Something Burning?" Yes They or she can't cook
>>either.
>

>Ever hear of free Email accounts?
>
>The Email address has always been the same. It is a free Email
>account which anyone, anywhere in the world, can sign up for.
>Like Hotmail or Yahoo.
>
>You can sign up yourself for a free Email account at these pages:
>
>http://www.velocall.com/
>
>http://ums.velocall.com/home/register.html
>
>

Why do these out of Iraq references continue to pop up? I continue to
believe these bloggers are more likely Western opponents of the Bush
administration then anything else. Why don't they have lots of
pictures and addresses in Iraq if they really are real?

jim

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Nov 16, 2003, 1:19:01 AM11/16/03
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Tel: 02-6414980-1, 02-8841047
E-Mail:Prom...@velocall.com
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Phone: (213) 305-9721
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Jim-Bob

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Nov 16, 2003, 7:05:46 AM11/16/03
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in article bp6qq7$1k5bmi$1...@ID-207120.news.uni-berlin.de, William Boyd at
Ho...@Cowboy.net wrote on 11/15/03 10:26 PM:

> Well it took a while but they made a mistake, their cover is blown
> RIVERBEND originates in the US just like I said from the beginning.
> Their e-mail address is rive...@velocall.com.

Your blundering investigation reminds me of those WW II movies where the
American behind enemy lines is sending radio messages, and the Japs are
searching for him with a radio direction finder. They never do quite get
him.

GoldenStatePoppy

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Nov 16, 2003, 9:41:03 AM11/16/03
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Rita wrote:

>You will have to do better than that.
>
>
More insults.

-Connie

maureen

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Nov 16, 2003, 11:20:49 AM11/16/03
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On 16 Nov 2003 14:41:03 GMT, goldenst...@aol.comnospam

Insults????? I guess that comes from being a far right winger. You
are never on the receiving end of an insult.

You don't know your insults from your pinky, Connie!

BTW , my previous statement is an insult but a statement of fact based
on your reaction to Rita's so-called "insult which was in reality a
mild comment on a very strange post of the Pentagon Intelligence
Major.

Notice I didn't say, "Intelligent Major".

That last statement could be construed as an "insult" except I was
using it to point out I wasn't using an insult.

maureen

GoldenStatePoppy

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Nov 17, 2003, 11:15:45 AM11/17/03
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I am still rather amazed, Rita, that you this this blogger is genuine.

-Connie

jim

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Nov 17, 2003, 4:04:19 PM11/17/03
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:15:51 GMT Rita Rita <mk...@myrealbox.com>
wrote:


>None of which means anyone, anyplace in the world can't sign up for
>a free Email account. Just as they do with Hotmail or Yahoo or many
>more free providers.
>
>From Velocall's sign up page:
>
>VeloCall offers free web-based e-mail which integrates all messages sent to you
>by fax, telephone or e-mail into your single mailbox. With a single e-mail
>address and Velocall network around the world, you can receive e-mail, voicemail
>and fax anytime anywhere in the world.
>
>I'm afraid you are a bit behind the times, Jim, if you think one has to
>use an Email account for a company based in the nation in which you live.


>You will have to do better than that.
>

From Washpost on bloggers


It's a Little Too Cozy in the Blogosphere

By Jennifer Howard
Sunday, November 16, 2003; Page B01


It was a cool idea, a fresh kind of media democracy for a new-media
world. Thanks to the miracle of blogging technology, any smart kid in
Boise or Brooklyn could set up his own Web site and weigh in on
everything from regime change in Iraq to snarky book reviews. He
didn't need a publisher, a journalism degree or an old-boy network,
just a computer, an Internet connection and an opinion (and bloggers
have plenty of those). Part reporter, part gadfly, part cheeky
upstart, bloggers seemed to scorn the insider mentality of brand-name
pundits, and they were often a lot more fun to read -- and more
insightful.



Note the past tense. A year ago, I barely knew what blogs were. Within
a few months, they'd become a staple of my daily media diet. Now I
can't live without them, but already I'm feeling betrayed -- and a
little bored.

What began as the ultimate outsider activity -- a way to break the
newspaper and TV stranglehold on the gathering and dissemination of
information -- is turning into the same insider's game played by the
old establishment media the bloggerati love to critique. The more
blogs you read and the more often you read them, the more obvious it
is: They've fallen in love with themselves, each other and the beauty
of what they're creating. The cult of media celebrity hasn't been
broken by the Internet's democratic tendencies; it's just found new
enabling technology.

The problem's built into the medium itself. Blogs are set up to be
personal forums for someone's opinions. That's the point, the
liberating thing about them. Bloggers don't have to get their copy
past an editor, and they can sound off at any length -- no word limits
in cyberspace. They're products of a seismic cultural shift that makes
someone's hangover as newsworthy as the arrival of a Harry Potter
novel. The sassier the voice, the more successful the blog is likely
to be. In a Google universe, success is defined by hits: the number of
visits a Web page gets. The more blogs link to each other, the more
hits they all get; enough hits and a cyberstar is born. (Okay, color
me envious: I don't even know if Google can find my Web site, not that
anyone's looking.)

Take my daily blog circuit. It's heavy on sites with a literary slant,
but the same tendencies crop up on blogs that focus on politics or
almost any other subject. My personal hit parade includes Bookslut
(www.bookslut.com/blog/), whose proprietor is based in Chicago; Maud
Newton (maudnewton.com/blog/), put together by a thirtyish fiction
writer in Brooklyn; Old Hag (oldhag.blogspot.com/), run by a writer in
Baltimore; Moorish Girl (moorishgirl.com), which comes out of L.A.;
and bloggers' darling The Minor Fall, The Major Lift, or TMFTML
(www.popfactor.com/tmftml/) as it's known in the blogosphere.
(Bloggers are even more acronym-happy than Washington think tankers.)
I've been told that the guy behind TMFTML works in New York
publishing. Despite his proximity to the corridors of literary power,
he's about as anti-establishment as they come, judging by his
almost-daily assaults on the New York Times, the New York Observer and
other hubs of the media matrix. A typical slam, this one from Oct. 28:
"Either There Are No Editors at the Times or They've Made a Conscious
Decision to Kill Us with Alessandra Stanley's Bad Writing." Funny?
Yes. Mean? You bet.

Read regularly, sites like these give me a pretty good idea of what's
floating around the literary zeitgeist any given day or week. They
link to everything from Britain's Guardian newspaper to small literary
journals I rarely see to Webzines and blogs I'd have no other way of
knowing about. On Nov. 7, for instance, Bookslut linked to an
interview with novelist Vendela Vida that ran on identitytheory.com,
which bills itself as "a literary website, sort of" and which I'd
never heard of. Vida is married to Dave Eggers, author of the
annoyingly influential postmodern memoir "A Heartbreaking Work of
Staggering Genius," and she has a new book out. So I was a little
curious to hear what she has to say, and to know how it came across to
other readers; Bookslut obligingly linked to some reactions on other
literary blogs.

Part of blogs' usefulness as a cultural barometer is that they don't
automatically buy what the establishment says about Vida or Eggers or
any other overhyped phenomenon, literary or otherwise. Bloggers know
what they like and what they don't like, and they aren't afraid to
tell you why. And they get to use bad words that will never see print
inside a family newspaper. But to get to the good stuff, you have to
wade through more and more self-congratulation and mutual admiration.
Call it blogrolling. Here are a few examples from a typical recent
week in the blogosphere (links not included):

From TMFTML, Oct. 30: "As you might imagine, we're fans of Evelyn
Waugh (even in spite of the horrible assault on the sensibilities that
is "Brideshead Revisited"). It's the writer's centennial, and
pint-sized polemicist Maud Newton collects all the coverage in one
place. The inexplicably prominent Brooklyn blogger also reaches back
into her own past to reveal a heartwarming tale of intellectual
precocity. Well done, little one." Little one? That was about the nine
millionth reference to Newton's stature he's made in the last six
months. Or maybe he's channeling Yoda.

From Maud Newton, Nov. 6: "We'd have guessed [the Old Hag] was a
Sauvignon Blanc girl, and if she'd just come for a visit we'd share a
bottle and try to figure out a way to steal her smarts." Alcohol's a
perennially popular blogging topic. Not that I disapprove.

From Moorish Girl, Nov. 7: "If I lived a hundred years I couldn't be
as funny or witty as the Old Hag." Sweet, but what exactly have I
learned?

From the Old Hag, who gives us blogrolling in a nutshell with this
Nov. 7 post: "We'd also like to take a moment to draw your attention
to some new blogs of note. If you look at our links list, you'll see
Chica (whom we TOTALLY discovered, and now she's all Gawkered and
Terry'd and does Choire EVER LINK TO ME?). . . . "

Note the offhand references and the verbing of names -- the Old Hag
assumes that not only do you read blogs, you're on a first-name basis
with the hip dudes and dudettes who run them. What, you've never heard
of Chica, Terry and Choire? Let me introduce you, in order, to the
up-and-coming blogger behind Cup of Chicha
(www.nchicha.com/cupofchicha/); Wall Street Journal drama critic Terry
Teachout, who moonlights as a blogger with his site About Last Night
(www.artsjournal.com/aboutlastnight/); and ur-New York media blog
Gawker.com and its editor, Choire Sicha, who maintains his own blog at
www.choiresicha.com. I only know this because I've been reading these
sites long enough to get a feel for the usual suspects. Otherwise I'd
have no clue either. And I'm not sure why I should want to.

Maybe the back-scratching started as revolutionary solidarity. Now
it's a popularity contest in which the value of information is
confused with the cool quotient of the person spreading it. Late-night
TV has Jay and Dave and Conan; the blogosphere has TMFTML and Old Hag
and Choire, only unlike the gods of late night, the gods of the
blogosphere really, really like each other -- and say so every chance
they get.

They're not so nice to the less popular kids, often
establishment-media types who get flogged out of all proportion to
their op-ed offenses. The last few months, it's been all the rage to
paste Laura Miller, a critic with regular gigs for Salon.com and the
New York Times. One of the kinder comments, this one from Cup of
Chicha: "From the way she writes about contemporary short stories, it
feels obvious she doesn't read them." Even if you're not a fan of
Miller's, the attacks can get so nasty it starts to feel like bloggers
pick on her not because they think she's a lousy critic but because
she gets to sound off every other week in the New York Times.

If the ad hominem tactics made for a better read, I might not mind so
much. Sure, it can be fun in a sick sort of way, like watching a bar
fight while you nurse a beer in the corner. But more and more it gets
in the way of what makes blogs useful to someone like me, and that's
information. After making my daily e-rounds, I feel more plugged into
what's going on -- and ever more burned out on cronyism and
negativity. Even if you rely on blogs for idiosyncratic takes on the
news, even if you enjoy seeing sacred cows slaughtered, even if you
believe, as I do, that the world needs the kind of Zorro-like cultural
commentary they're so good at, you start to wonder: Is this getting a
little too personal?

Maybe that's the point. In the blogosphere, everybody gets to be a
critic.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43254-2003Nov14.html

jim

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Nov 17, 2003, 4:06:44 PM11/17/03
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:18:04 GMT El Castor El Castor
<justusc...@not-here.com> wrote:

>Rita <mk...@myrealbox.com> wrote:

>>None of which means anyone, anyplace in the world can't sign up for
>>a free Email account. Just as they do with Hotmail or Yahoo or many
>>more free providers.
>>
>>From Velocall's sign up page:
>>


>>VeloCall offers free web-based e-mail which integrates all messages sent to you
>>by fax, telephone or e-mail into your single mailbox. With a single e-mail
>>address and Velocall network around the world, you can receive e-mail, voicemail
>>and fax anytime anywhere in the world.
>>
>>I'm afraid you are a bit behind the times, Jim, if you think one has to
>>use an Email account for a company based in the nation in which you live.
>>You will have to do better than that.
>>

>I find nothing particularly suspicious in the e-mail account. I do
>find Riverbend's excellent command of English to be suspect. Also, she
>presumably lives in a city populated with Western journalists, who I
>am sure would really like to interview her. I haven't read much of her
>stuff. Has she explained why she hasn't been interviewed? She
>obviously doesn't have a problem with notoriety. Why hasn't she
>presented herself to the press? The press knows about her. Have they
>tried to seek her out? She could write a book and make big bucks.
>Surely she knows that. Why hasn't she taken a couple of hours out of
>her not very busy day to authenticate herself? Until she does, I will
>continue to suspect that Riverbend is a fraud.
>
>Jeff

I don't do oprah, nor opera, nor blogs. They are all boring as hell
and meaningless waste of time. soc.ret is the only time wasting I
allow. :)

Tempest

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Dec 1, 2003, 12:40:49 PM12/1/03
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William Boyd <Ho...@Cowboy.net> wrote in message news:<bp6qq7$1k5bmi$1...@ID-207120.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> Well it took a while but they made a mistake, their cover is blown
> RIVERBEND originates in the US just like I said from the beginning.
> Their e-mail address is rive...@velocall.com. See if any of you
> Sleuths can figure it out. Try is California Burning. To answer
> their question "Is Something Burning?" Yes They or she can't cook
> either.

You are such a dumbass.

Does every single MSN member live in Redmond, WA?
Does every single Brighthouse member live in the city Brighthouse calls home?
Does every single AOL member live in the city AOL calls home?
How about WebTV users? Do they all live in WebTV's corporate city?

In case you haven't figured it out, genius, ISPs have members worldwide.
And many have free email accounts.

Good thing for you IQ tests aren't required for GOP membership.

GoldenStatePoppy

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Dec 1, 2003, 3:50:35 PM12/1/03
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>mordacp...@hotmail.com (Tempest)
>Date: 12/1/2003 9:40 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <2df29c5c.03120...@posting.google.com

>You are such a dumbass.

This comment says a great deal more about the one who wrote it rather than the
one at whom it was aimed. Your screen name is new to us here at
soc.retirement. My wish is that you either clean up your act or take your
posting elsewhere.

-Connie

Jim-Bob

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Dec 1, 2003, 5:34:36 PM12/1/03
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Tempest wrote :

> Good thing for you IQ tests aren't required for GOP membership.

But they DO have IQ tests. The passing grade is 60; but anyone above 100
is out.

rumpelstiltskin

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Dec 1, 2003, 5:42:41 PM12/1/03
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On 01 Dec 2003 20:50:35 GMT, goldenst...@aol.comnospam
(GoldenStatePoppy) wrote:

I seem not to be getting all the posts in this newsgroup. My
server didn't show your similar advice to boog and cajun and
Lee K, though I'm sure you must have said something since the
stimulus was so vastly greater.

Ke...@ev1.net

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Dec 13, 2003, 12:00:34 AM12/13/03
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On 01 Dec 2003 20:50:35 GMT, goldenst...@aol.comnospam
(GoldenStatePoppy) wrote:

what happened to free speech? Seriously Connie I suggest you
look at some of thee things you say. I think your in denial sometimes

jim

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Dec 13, 2003, 1:01:46 PM12/13/03
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:40:20 -0800 Tim Burr Tim Burr <tim...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Hi Carol, still in the same dingy old trailer park ?

You finally figure out who she was. I dumped her the moment she poked
her sourpus up.

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