(Kinda Off-topic) Yesterdayland is no more
stéphane dumas
explained on this message located at a mailing list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ylfriends/message/159 (you have to subscribe
to read the message homever)
Meanwhile I found a back-up copy at the Internet archives
http://www.archive.org at
http://web.archive.org/web/20020915163858/http://www.yesterdayland.com so we
could still check about our cartoons and animes of Yesterday thanks to
Internet archives
I wish to see an other group will plan to revive Yesterdayland (and no one
will stole the Yesterdayland url to sell to someone else) I found a site a
bit similar to Yesterdayland called Nostalgia Central at
http://www.nostalgiacentral.com
thanks for reading
Stéphane Dumas
David Johnson
you let us know why it's gone?
--David Johnson
stéphane dumas
"David Johnson" <bluffs...@webtv.net> a écrit dans le message news:
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> I'm glad you mentioned this; I wondered why I couldn't access it. Can
> you let us know why it's gone?
The reason are mentionned at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ylfriends/message/159
Here the message than I paste and copied if you don't want to subscribe to
the mailing list ^_^;;
<<Dear Friends and YL Family,
It's not the worst news in the world today, but we're sorry to have to tell
you anyway. After more than four years of retro fun, YesterdayLand is
shutting down, more than likely less than 24 hours after you read this.
As a website, we can't imagine YL could be much better, but unfortunately,
as a business, it became clear it just wasn't going to work as planned.
We're sorry we can't give you more detailed explanations,
but believe us when we say that nobody wanted YL to last more than the
people who brought
it to you. For those of us lucky enough to actually work in the fun factory,
it may have been the best job we'll ever have.
We're proud of the supersite we built, of the thousands of pages of
information and memories about the stuff we all grew up on, of the
interviews and anecdotes from people whose work we greatly respect.
But more than anything, we're proud of the way that somehow, this little
personal fantasyland of ours turned into a genuine, living community of
friends and online family. Thanks to all of you, from
our newest YL-ers to those who've been with us from the beginning. We may
have built the
castle,but you brought the magic.
So trade your email addresses and contact info as you please, say whatever
goodbyes you need to say, and keep in touch. It's still a great big world
wide web, and maybe one day we'll plant our flags on a
brand new land for all of us to play in. It can't be any worse than
AfterM*A*S*H, right?
It's been wonderful. Thank you. Your friends at YesterdayLand
If you want to keep up to date with any new retro projects Russell and
Patrick will be doing, join their mailing list at: retrodome@y...>>
As I already mentionned, we still could access to the back-up copies located
at the Internet Archives
http://www.archive.org
>
> --David Johnson
>
Stéphane Dumas
Derek Carrow
> I just inform you than Yesterdayland had closed their doors,
Oh no! Now all those people who don't know the name of the show which
took place in a department store after closing and had a manekin(sic)
named Jeff who came to life when a magic hat was put on his it was my
favorite show and I watched it all the time but I can't remember what
it was called will never learn the name! :-)
Seriously, as a long time lurker on YL, I'll miss the site. Even
though people kept asking for the name of the same shows day after
day, and the 80s kids continually whined about how someone should put
the "good cartoons" back on TV ("good cartoons" in their case meaning
"The Getalong Gang") until it got beyond tiresome, there were some
good eggs on YL like Arthur "Artytoons" Lee, "The West Virginian", and
"Kids/TV Man" who were always quick to answer questions or provide
trivia about assorted shows. Heck, I'll even miss the Filmation
fetishists who were so far gone in their perversion, they insisted
that the Filmation "Ghostebusters" cartoon was superior to "The Real
GhostBusters".
Derek Carrow
definitely won't miss "agentflash" and his obsession with
female cartoon characters wearing surgical masks, though.
Hey, Kids! Comics!
www.freecomicbookday.com
Metlhd3138
>took place in a department store after closing and had a manekin(sic)
>named Jeff who came to life when a magic hat was put on his it was my
>favorite show and I watched it all the time but I can't remember what
>it was called will never learn the name! :-)
Todays Special
Chris Sobieniak
(Derek Carrow) wrote:
>Oh no! Now all those people who don't know the
>name of the show which took place in a
>department store after closing and had a
>manekin(sic) named Jeff who came to life when a
>magic hat was put on his it was my favorite show
>and I watched it all the time but I can't remember
>what it was called will never learn the name! :-)
Well to help you out, it was "Today's Special", and was produced by TV
Ontario, Ontario's educational network in the early 1980s and was seen
as well in the US on Nickelodeon at the same time.
>Seriously, as a long time lurker on YL, I'll miss the
>site. Even though people kept asking for the name
>of the same shows day after day, and the 80s kids
>continually whined about how someone should put
>the "good cartoons" back on TV ("good cartoons"
>in their case meaning "The Getalong Gang") until
God no!
>it got beyond tiresome, there were some good
>eggs on YL like Arthur "Artytoons" Lee, "The West
>Virginian", and "Kids/TV Man" who were always
>quick to answer questions or provide trivia about
>assorted shows. Heck, I'll even miss the Filmation
>fetishists who were so far gone in their perversion,
>they insisted that the Filmation "Ghostebusters"
>cartoon was superior to "The Real GhostBusters".
>Derek Carrow
Heh, need to check out my video copy then to make sure!
>definitely won't miss "agentflash" and his
>obsession with female cartoon characters wearing
>surgical masks, though.
>Hey, Kids! Comics!
>www.freecomicbookday.com
Assuming that the comic book is good (I'm not counting on this day
myself, perhaps if they offered a free issue of Shonen Jump perhaps).
From the Master of Car-too-nal Knowledge...
Christopher M. Sobieniak
--"Fightin' the Frizzies since 1978"--
Derek Carrow
>>
> Well to help you out, it was "Today's Special",
Well, I actually knew that. It's just that every day it seemed someone
posted on YL asking that question. That and "What was the show where
the girl was from outer space and could stop time by putting her
fingers together and talked with her dad through a glowing object and
the theme song went 'Would you like to swing on a star, carry
moonbeams home in a jar'?"(1). Considering the regularity of these
posts and the fact that they always mentioned the same clues, some of
the regulars were suspecting that someone was actually going through
the trouble of creating new accounts and posting the same question
daily for his/her own amusement.
>
>> and the 80s kids
> >continually whined about how someone should put
> >the "good cartoons" back on TV ("good cartoons"
> >in their case meaning "The Getalong Gang") until
>
> God no!
Fraid 'so. You wouldn't believe how many posts there were where
someone complains that the current batch of cartoons (like "Pokemon")
are nothing more than poorly animated half-hour toy commercials, then
go on to claim that the 80s cartoons were quality cartoons with
wholesome lessons that today's kids can learn from.
> Assuming that the comic book is good (I'm not counting on this day
> myself, perhaps if they offered a free issue of Shonen Jump perhaps).
Well, the listings on the website include a comic based on
"Transformers:Armada" and the relaunch of "Batman Adventures" based on
Batman:TAS. Some (but not all) stores will also have Gemstone's
reprinting of "Donald Duck Adventures: Maharajah Donald".
Derek Carrow
"France is a country without winter or summer of morales.
Other than that, it is a fine country. France is usually
governed by prostitutes.'
- Mark Twain
(1) I know, I know: "Out of This World"
DishRoom1
Chris Sobieniak wrote --
>> Well to help you out, it was "Today's Special",
>
>Well, I actually knew that. It's just that every day it seemed someone
>posted on YL asking that question. That and "What was the show where
>the girl was from outer space and could stop time by putting her
>fingers together and talked with her dad through a glowing object and
>the theme song went 'Would you like to swing on a star, carry
>moonbeams home in a jar'?"(1). Considering the regularity of these
>posts and the fact that they always mentioned the same clues, some of
>the regulars were suspecting that someone was actually going through
>the trouble of creating new accounts and posting the same question
>daily for his/her own amusement.
>>
>>> and the 80s kids
>> >continually whined about how someone should put
>> >the "good cartoons" back on TV ("good cartoons"
>> >in their case meaning "The Getalong Gang") until
>>
>> God no!
>
>Fraid 'so. You wouldn't believe how many posts there were where
>someone complains that the current batch of cartoons (like "Pokemon")
>are nothing more than poorly animated half-hour toy commercials, then
>go on to claim that the 80s cartoons were quality cartoons with
>wholesome lessons that today's kids can learn from.
Talk of the kettle calling the pot "black".
>(1) I know, I know: "Out of This World"
I never knew this show exsited.
John Shughart
Chris Sobieniak
(Derek Carrow) wrote:
>chrism...@webtv.net (Chris Sobieniak) wrote
>in message
>Well, I actually knew that. It's just that every day
>it seemed someone posted on YL asking that
>question. That and "What was the show where the
>girl was from outer space and could stop time by
>putting her fingers together and talked with her
>dad through a glowing object and the theme song
>went 'Would you like to swing on a star, carry
>moonbeams home in a jar'?"(1).
God, "Out of this World". Remember seeing that one way back when.
>Considering the
>regularity of these posts and the fact that they
>always mentioned the same clues, some of the
>regulars were suspecting that someone was
>actually going through the trouble of creating new
>accounts and posting the same question daily for
>his/her own amusement.
There's always a lot of those people who have the same fainted memorie
of these programs, and there's always a sucker born every minute when
they try to find out what little may exist of the said memory out there
on the net, or perhaps in a magazine or at the library going through a
reference book of what-not.
>>God no!
>Fraid 'so. You wouldn't believe how many posts
>there were where someone complains that the
>current batch of cartoons (like "Pokemon") are
>nothing more than poorly animated half-hour toy
>commercials, then go on to claim that the 80s
>cartoons were quality cartoons with wholesome
>lessons that today's kids can learn from.
At least they got me off the streets and in the living room with my eyes
glued to the idiot box to watch more of them!
Probably a good reason for the demise of Yesterdayland.com (unless
there's not anything we've left out). I just don't usually like
webpages of just people trying to remember as much as they could of
something or relying on what recollections they do have for the said
show.
>>Assuming that the comic book is good (I'm not
>>counting on this day myself, perhaps if they
>>offered a free issue of Shonen Jump perhaps).
>Well, the listings on the website include a comic
>based on "Transformers:Armada" and the relaunch
>of "Batman Adventures" based on Batman:TAS.
>Some (but not all) stores will also have
>Gemstone's reprinting of "Donald Duck
>Adventures: Maharajah Donald".
>Derek Carrow
Have to see if my store would carry those comics again (hmmm, wasn't it
Gladstone previously? Didn't think they were reprinting the Disney
comics again).
TheShredder
God, "Out of this World". Remember seeing that one way back when.>>>
Heh, still have a few on tape, along with the 'Mathman' segment of Square
One.
Also, heres one for you. What was the name of the two alien brothers. Ones
neck smoked up,
and
the other one had somethnig happen to him as well. Also have a catchy theme
song...
Derek Carrow
>
> Probably a good reason for the demise of Yesterdayland.com (unless
> there's not anything we've left out). I just don't usually like
> webpages of just people trying to remember as much as they could of
> something or relying on what recollections they do have for the said
> show.
It did seem that the webmasters had lost interest in the site long
ago. No new pages were added, trolling/flaming posts that in the past
were quickly deleted stayed for weeks, emails were not being answered.
I figure the site just got too big and too time-consuming.
>
> Have to see if my store would carry those comics again (hmmm, wasn't it
> Gladstone previously? Didn't think they were reprinting the Disney
> comics again).
Gemstone is actually owned by Steve Geppi, head of Diamond Comics
Distributors and publisher of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide.
More info is at http://www.gemstonepub.com/.
I certainly hope that Gemstone will make an attempt to reach the kids
market (unlike Gladstone, which seemed strictly interested in adult
Barksophiles. Preferably those willing to shell out big bucks for
bound volumes or Barks lithos). But from what I've been able to
discern, the Disney comics are $6.95 an issue.
Derek Carrow
Put your own damn .sig here. I'm tired.
Chris Sobieniak
(Derek Carrow) wrote:
>chrism...@webtv.net (Chris Sobieniak) wrote in
>message
>>Yesterdayland.com (unless there's not anything
>>we've left out). I just don't usually like webpages
>>of just people trying to remember as much as
>>they could of something or relying on what
>>recollections they do have for the said show.
>It did seem that the webmasters had lost interest
>in the site long ago. No new pages were added,
>trolling/flaming posts that in the past were quickly
>deleted stayed for weeks, emails were not being
>answered. I figure the site just got too big and too
>time-consuming.
Such a shame really. If I ever get my massive animation site up and
running, I'll have to look for hiring a good staff of people who could
maintain the pages on a daily basis (if and when I have the extra cash
for such a site). Kinda wanted to do mine that wouldn't be like
Yesterdayland.com, but would be a little more like IMDB.com, and perhaps
a few others out there (like Big Fat Cartoon Database), but the only
differences would be that my site would reference the animated projects
much more in-depth than what is available out there on most webpages
(especially when concerning a particular series that was seen elsewhere
in the world under different variations and what-not). It would be a
lot of hard, tiresome work, but I see it as a goal I like to accomplish
one day.
>>Have to see if my store would carry those comics
>>again (hmmm, wasn't it Gladstone previously?
>>Didn't think they were reprinting the Disney
>>comics again).
>Gemstone is actually owned by Steve Geppi, head
>of Diamond Comics Distributors and publisher of
>The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide. More info
>is at http://www.gemstonepub.com/.
Well maybe I'll bitch at my local shop to get it anyway (if they even
carry anything from Gemstone at all, other than what else they get from
Diamond).
>I certainly hope that Gemstone will make an
>attempt to reach the kids market (unlike
>Gladstone, which seemed strictly interested in
>adult Barksophiles. Preferably those willing to shell
>out big bucks for bound volumes or Barks lithos).
Always seemed translucent to me at an early age. I guess I wasn't
thinking about it too much when I did go down to the local corner drug
store all the time, and continued buying issues of Walt Disney's Comics
& Stores, Donald Duck and other titles for less than a buck all those
years ago. Don't get that joy anymore in the midst of what seems to
ahve became a much different world for comics, where kids don't even
wanna bother with them, and a select number of adults who would shill
money out at these 32-paged pamphlets where ever sold.
Never did bothered with all those Barks Lithos, TPBs and what-not that
came out over the years.
>But from what I've been able to discern, the
>Disney comics are $6.95 an issue.
To put it bluntly, this is shit! (I mean it literally)
> Derek Carrow
>Put your own damn .sig here. I'm tired.
Well mine's been a classic of the America that once was, Lord knows I
don't think I'll ever comprehend the thought of buying a single comic
issue for that skyrocketed pricetag (perhaps Gerard will show up and
regale his memories of Gladstone's previous all-newsprint releases that
were sold for such a low price).
Gerard dS
"Derek Carrow" <dkca...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> market (unlike Gladstone, which seemed strictly interested in adult
> Barksophiles. Preferably those willing to shell out big bucks for
> bound volumes or Barks lithos). But from what I've been able to
> discern, the Disney comics are $6.95 an issue.
>
comics....better'n Disney did when they tried.
Gladstone did sell overpriced prints, sculptures and editions but the comics
were reasonable. As far as the kids they did try printing comics on old
fashioned comic newsprint with a newsprint cover for .99 cents.
Gerard
Gerard dS
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Well mine's been a classic of the America that once was, Lord knows I
don't think I'll ever comprehend the thought of buying a single comic
issue for that skyrocketed pricetag (perhaps Gerard will show up and
regale his memories of Gladstone's previous all-newsprint releases that
were sold for such a low price).
MAN! You are spooky!
Not only are you master of past knowledge but now the future!
Rod Serling: Submitted for your approval: one Chris Sobieniak........
Gerard
Chris Sobieniak
(Gerard dS) wrote:
>chrism...@webtv.net (Chris Sobieniak) wrote in
>message
>news:<18934-3E...@storefull-2174.public>.lawson.webtv.net>...
Which none of my text has been saved for this post but will be addressed
later in another one...
>>>I certainly hope that Gemstone will make an
>>>attempt to reach the kids
>>>market (unlike Gladstone, which seemed strictly
>>>interested in adult Barksophiles. Preferably
>>>those willing to shell out big bucks for bound
>>>volumes or Barks lithos). But from what I've
>>>been able to discern, the Disney comics are
>>>$6.95 an issue.
>I thought Gladstone did a fine...no..excellent job
>with their comics....better'n Disney did when they
>tried. Gladstone did sell overpriced prints,
>sculptures and editions but the comics were
>reasonable.
And I think at one point, they even pawned off cels of Ludwig Von Drake
from the previous Walt Disney TV progams from the '60s. Too bad I
didn't have the wad back then to buy one.
>As far as the kids they did try printing comics on
>old fashioned comic newsprint with a newsprint
>cover for .99 cents.
>Gerard
99 cents seems so kitchy these days with the way some corporations do
try to market their ploy using such numerical demoninations like this
one. Apparently last year Marvel released a Fantastic Four comic that
was sold for 9 cents (if it was 10 cents I would've believed it).
Nowadays books are just too flashy and unlimited in their use of
printing every color in the pallate unlike the days of the old 4-color
publishing that had a limited range of colors to work with.
Chris Sobieniak
(Gerard dS) wrote:
>"Chris Sobieniak" <chrism...@webtv.net> wrote
>in message
>news:18160-3E9...@storefull-2178.public.>lawson.webtv.net...
>>Well mine's been a classic of the America that
>>once was, Lord knows I don't think I'll ever
>>comprehend the thought of buying a single comic
>>issue for that skyrocketed pricetag (perhaps
>>Gerard will show up and regale his memories of
>>Gladstone's previous all-newsprint releases that
>>were sold for such a low price).
>MAN! You are spooky!
>Not only are you master of past knowledge but
>now the future!
Sad really. I have nightmares where I dream of a future where kids are
more spoiled than they ever been before. They do the same BS kids do
today, but it's fed to them from cables, monitors and airwaves. They
hardly have time to go outside into the world they've abandom because
they feel there's no need to do so when they got VOD flicks at their
fingertips and buddies thousands of miles in London, Moscow, Tokyo and
Bangkok that can beat their asses in a round of some complex and violent
RPG program that is quickly engulfing the populous by the millions.
That's the kind of world I feel tomorrow's children are heading to.
I sometimes feel I'm the last of a generation that still got to do
things today's kids and beyond might never experience forever. Kinda
sets me up for some great stories I'll have to tell my grandkids about
how less strict and free the world of the 20th Century was over the
bleak, dark and somewhat cold world they'll live in.
>Rod Serling: Submitted for your approval: one
>Chris Sobieniak........
>Gerard
As long as he doesn't leave a trail of cigarette butts all over the
floors I'm OK with it. ^_^
Gerard dS
>Sad really. I have nightmares where I dream of a future where kids are
>more spoiled than they ever been before. They do the same BS kids do
>today, but it's fed to them from cables, monitors and airwaves. They
>hardly have time to go outside into the world they've abandom because
>they feel there's no need to do so when they got VOD flicks at their
>fingertips and buddies thousands of miles in London, Moscow, Tokyo and
>Bangkok that can beat their asses in a round of some complex and violent
>RPG program that is quickly engulfing the populous by the millions.
>That's the kind of world I feel tomorrow's children are heading to.
Tomorrow? Sounds like today.
Gerard
Steve Carras
Too bad. I was a member of theirs (Steve Carras 1960-the year I was
born:D) Of course I could only post to MEMORIES and not to MESSAGE
BOARDS, for some inane reason, missing ID value, whatever that meant
unless just a sign of its current state.
RIP.
The nostalgia board youc ite is British based-ergo My lack of
familiarity at first blush with many shows then it gave detailed looks
even at stuff like Penelope Pitstop. But it's no replacement for
yesterdayland.Just IMHO of course.
Chris Sobieniak
wrote:
>The nostalgia board youc ite is British based-ergo
>My lack of familiarity at first blush with many
>shows then it gave detailed looks even at stuff like
>Penelope Pitstop. But it's no replacement for
>yesterdayland.Just IMHO of course.
Which is probably more the reason why I like to do a site that would
look at animation in a light nothing like the recollections or memories
of a particular group, but would take in account the whole world and
it's perception of any works that may've wandered across the globe over
the years (even the Japanese had the hots for Wacky Races's
"Milk-chan").
Chris Sobieniak
(Gerard dS) wrote:
>"Chris Sobieniak" <chrism...@webtv.net> wrote
>in message
>news:19449-3E...@storefull-2171.public.la>wson.webtv.net...
(Snipped for length)\
>>That's the kind of world I feel tomorrow's children
>>are heading to.
>Tomorrow? Sounds like today.
>Gerard
You're right. I just felt sorry that kids today and tomorrow are being
exposed to this type of reality than what I had to go with in my youth.
Just today I went to my grandma's house for Easter and realized how the
woods I once used to play in back behind her house is now some real
estate subdivision called "Colony Oaks". My dad and me with some guy
who worked on constructing the houses there walked through the
neighborhood seeing a a number of completed or unfinished hosues, with a
lot of vacant spaces leftover to build on the property that once was
owned by my uncle. My dad went on about how they used to have a lot of
junk metal parrts that went to horse-drawn wagons in there and a number
of farm-related junk lying around. I couldn't help but felt surprised
how much my grandma's section has become so suburban in such a short
amount of time (though the farm she once had on her property was already
gone by the time I was born).
Amazes me how times can chance so much.
Gerard dS
.
>Just today I went to my grandma's house for Easter and realized how the
>woods I once used to play in back behind her house is now some real
>estate subdivision called "Colony Oaks". My dad and me with some guy
>who worked on constructing the houses there walked through the
>neighborhood seeing a a number of completed or unfinished hosues, with a
>lot of vacant spaces leftover to build on the property that once was
>owned by my uncle. My dad went on about how they used to have a lot of
>junk metal parrts that went to horse-drawn wagons in there and a number
>of farm-related junk lying around. I couldn't help but felt surprised
>how much my grandma's section has become so suburban in such a short
>amount of time (though the farm she once had on her property was already
>gone by the time I was born).
>Amazes me how times can chance so much.
No kidding; when I started reading this I heard that "Ohio" song from The
Pretenders start playing in my head.
Gerard
Chris Sobieniak
Heh, I hate it when I let my memories run wild. Right now Cartoon
Network's showing the first of many classic Family Guy episodes. At
least I have something to look forward to at 11:30PM EST.