gif or gif
GREGORY KNESER
What do you think is the correct way?
Ryan Godfrey
: How do you pronounce it?
: What do you think is the correct way?
Definitely hard g. Definitely.
RDG
greg dubrow
Any comment here would be TMI-worthy. Definitely.
g
John Hogan
>
> How do you pronounce it?
>
> What do you think is the correct way?
I pronounce it "gif."
hth,
John Hogan
Biddle Law Library/AFSCME Local 590
greg dubrow
> GREGORY KNESER wrote:
> > How do you pronounce it?
> > What do you think is the correct way?
> I pronounce it "gif."
"Melvyn."
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GREGORY KNESER
: Ryan Godfrey wrote:
: > Definitely hard g. Definitely.
: Any comment here would be TMI-worthy. Definitely.
It's not like he said "Definitely hard, G." Come-on.
Greg
But not come on G.
Shilajit T Gangulee
: How do you pronounce it?
: What do you think is the correct way?
Didn't they teach you that in Wharton? Call 'em up and ask for a refund.
Lil' hint: Jif is peanut butter, not compression scheme.
Adam B. Sherr
: Didn't they teach you that in Wharton? Call 'em up and ask for a refund.
: Lil' hint: Jif is peanut butter, not compression scheme.
I like chunky Jif.
--
Adam B. Sherr sh...@nursing.upenn.edu GO QUAKERS! GO SIXERS! GO PHILLIES!
Shilajit T Gangulee
: Shilajit T Gangulee (s...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: : Didn't they teach you that in Wharton? Call 'em up and ask for a refund.
: : Lil' hint: Jif is peanut butter, not compression scheme.
: I like chunky Jif.
Smooth peanut butter is the devil's work.
Z. Christman
I've always pronounced it /jif/ because that's how it was first said to
me, back when "gifs" was slang for porn files.
zc
Shilajit T Gangulee
the whole reason you don't say /jif/ is because there is a .jif
compression standard, which is pretty much .gif except not patented like .gif.
yeah, i remember the long nights waiting hours for cindy.gif to download,
and hoping she was naked.
Z. Christman
Does anyone (besides a certain museum employee) refer to a URL as
an /earl/?
Shilajit T Gangulee (s...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
Shilajit T Gangulee
: I think the real question is:
: Does anyone (besides a certain museum employee) refer to a URL as
: an /earl/?
Almost every CSE student i know. I'm totally a you-are-elle sort of dhude.
How was the North Country? I was up there last weekend too.
Z. Christman
Amazing. You should come by my office to sit in my chair.
Mr. Big
: yeah, i remember the long nights waiting hours for cindy.gif to download,
: and hoping she was naked.
Oh Captain Janeway..... Lace... the final brasseire....
Jas.
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James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
Jerry
watching the grass grow). Here's where things are:
There are several arguments for GIF being pronounced with a HARD G:
1) "G" stands for Graphical. Graphical has a hard G.
2) The majority of people pronounce it that way.
3) Most words that start with G have a hard G.
The main case for Soft G is that the designers of the file format
specifically stated in their specification document that it's a soft
G.
Item 1 has been shot down as follows: Yes, G stands for graphical
(*as specified by the designers of the file format*). Three problems
with that:
a) The technical pronounciation of Graphical is gha-raf-i-cal. So
it's not the same phonetical sound as hard G. You would need to then
pronounce it Gh-IF, NOT hard G "GIF".
b) What something stands for has nothing to do with how an acronym is
pronounced. Modem, for example, stands for modulation/demodulation.
Is it pronounced "mah-deem"? Laser would be pronounced as if it
rhymes with brassiere... etc. The fact that g stands for graphical
has nothing to do with the pronounciation of the acronym.
c) If you are referring to the word "graphical" as the basis for the
argument, then you are basing your argument on the the words picked by
the designers, and used in the specification. And in that
specification, the designers said that it's pronounced JIFF like the
peanut butter. So for consistency, if you go back to the
specification to determine what it stands for, then you must live by
their specified pronounciation.
--
Item 2 has been shot down because the majority doesn't rule on matters
of punctuation.
--
Item 3 has been shot down because there is no rule. There are MANY
words that have a soft G pronounciation. People have even argued that
GIF is part of Gift, and so they should sound the same. (Gin (soft g)
and gink (hard g) are examples that shoot down that logic.)
--
So we go back to the specification... no one seems to be able to
logically shoot this down. The folks who invented the file format
decided what it would be called, and how to pronounce it. If you want
to invent your own file format, you can pronounce it any way you want.
You can even pick a symbol, and then be referred to as "The file
format formerly known as Prince". But as inventor, it's your call.
I want to say this in a *gentle* way... the *gist* of my message is
that most GIF pronounciation arguments amount to *gibberish*, when you
consider the *general* logic behind them. I'll let the *genie* out of
the bottle here: Have a *gin* and tonic, and cool your *genitals*.
You have to go back to the *genesis* of the file format, at the
*germination* of the idea, when they first *generated* the
specification. to determine the correct pronounciation. It is soft G,
like JIFF.
(it's really fun to read the posts where people write.. "Those who
pronounce GIF as JIF..." and correctly read that aloud ("Those who
pronounce JIF as JIF"))
OK.. let this be the definitive guide to pronouncing GIF. You can
pronounce it any way you want, but if you are one who insists on being
"correct", get used to saying JIF. And I haven't read a logical,
solid argument YET for pronouncing it with a hard G. Right now, Soft
G is winning the debate, and it's not even close!
greg dubrow
<....>
So do you pronounce your name with a soft "j" or a hard "j"?
g
Patrick B Fisher
: OK.. I have been watching the debate for several years (it's like
: watching the grass grow). Here's where things are:
At last my insomnia is gone!
Halleluja, praise the lord!
Z. Christman
: OK.. I have been watching <snip> grass grow
: The main case for Soft G is that the designers of the file format
: specifically stated in their specification document that it's a soft
: G.
: a) The technical pronounciation of Graphical is gha-raf-i-cal. So
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
does it bother you that you added a syllable?
: it's not the same phonetical sound as hard G. You would need to then
: pronounce it Gh-IF, NOT hard G "GIF".
: The fact that g stands for graphical
: has nothing to do with the pronounciation of the acronym.
: c) If you are referring to the word "graphical" as the basis for the
: argument, then you are basing your argument on the the words picked by
: the designers, and used in the specification. And in that
: specification, the designers said that it's pronounced JIFF like the
: peanut butter.
Or, as stated by Tico, like the JPEG Interchange File Format.
Also, from where did you come?
Ryan Godfrey
: OK.. let this be the definitive guide to pronouncing GIF. You can
: pronounce it any way you want, but if you are one who insists on being
: "correct", get used to saying JIF. And I haven't read a logical,
: solid argument YET for pronouncing it with a hard G. Right now, Soft
: G is winning the debate, and it's not even close!
How about this for a logical, solid argument:
Last I heard, the patent for the Graphical Interchange Format is owned by
Unisys (IIRC), who is now charging license fees for the format's use on
websites.
Since it is ridiculous to implement this policy after GIFs have been
entrenched on the web for so long, show your disapproval for their greed
by using the format willy-nilly and COMPLETELY DISREGARDING the
pronunciation preference of the inventors.
Hard G. Word.
RDG