Did I get the right Zarathustra?
Constantine Thomas
After reading more than a week suggestions about which Zarathustra, I
found the Reiner RCA 61709 recorded March 8 1954,in a local store, and
I made the investment.
Then I saw that there are more than one Zarathustra with Reiner, was I
fooled?
C Thomas
Mr. Mike
ct...@ix.netcom.com(Constantine Thomas) writes:
No, because Reiner recorded it twice and RCA (the Reissue Corporation of
America) has put out at least 2 CDs of the first version (from 1954).
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Mr. Mike wrote:
>
> ct...@ix.netcom.com(Constantine Thomas) writes:
>
> >After reading more than a week suggestions about which Zarathustra, I
> >found the Reiner RCA 61709 recorded March 8 1954,in a local store, and
> >I made the investment.
> >Then I saw that there are more than one Zarathustra with Reiner, was I
> >fooled?
>
> No, because Reiner recorded it twice and RCA (the Reissue Corporation of
> America) has put out at least 2 CDs of the first version (from 1954).
I hope you bought the "Living Stereo" issue that is coupled with a
fantastic "Ein Heldenleben".
The 1962 recording is quite nice in its own right and is available in
the RCA "Papillion) series (the one with the butterfly on the front).
It doesn't quite measure up to the 1954 rec, but comparison of the
two is quite fascinating.
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ENagamine
Constantine Thomas wrote:
>
> After reading more than a week suggestions about which Zarathustra, I
> found the Reiner RCA 61709 recorded March 8 1954,in a local store, and
> I made the investment.
> Then I saw that there are more than one Zarathustra with Reiner, was I
> fooled?
The Living Stereo and the Gold Seal CD's are of the '54 performance. The
Papillon is of the 62 disc. I don't know about the "Basic 100" issue.
I find the '54 to be the better of the two performances. Also, the brass
section was at it's peak in '54 and the two channel recording is better
than the '62 which was multimiked. A point for the '62 is that I believe
that Sidney Harth was the concertmaster.
Aloha,
Eric
Naun Chew
ENagamine <en...@lava.net> wrote:
>The Living Stereo and the Gold Seal CD's are of the '54 performance. The
>Papillon is of the 62 disc. I don't know about the "Basic 100" issue.
I seem to recall that the Basic 100 issue has the identical coupling and
timings as the Living Stereo issue. It may well be the same transfer.
Naun.
William Bailer
On 29 Jan 1997, Constantine Thomas wrote:
>
>After reading more than a week suggestions about which Zarathustra, I
>found the Reiner RCA 61709 recorded March 8 1954,in a local store, and
>I made the investment.
>Then I saw that there are more than one Zarathustra with Reiner, was I
>fooled?
>C Thomas
>
I know most listeners prefer Reiner, but I much prefer Karajan. I am
not a Karajan fan, and prefer him for no other work -- he just does it
best. There are many instances of rythms in the piece that are almost
never interpretted properly, making it quite a different, and inferior
piece, and Reiner makes these errors. Comparing to a recording by
Strauss himself, it is clear that Karajan, not Reiner, does it as the
composer wished, and he does sound "more correct" and satisfying.
Listen, and you will be convinced.
Bill Bailer
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Vodnik
If it was 1954 on "Living Stereo", then it was the "right" one.
Then again, if it was with Reiner, then no matter what it wasn't a "wrong"
one.
Happy listening!
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Don Patterson
William Bailer wrote:
>
> On 29 Jan 1997, Constantine Thomas wrote:
>
> >
> >After reading more than a week suggestions about which Zarathustra, I
> >found the Reiner RCA 61709 recorded March 8 1954,in a local store, and
> >I made the investment.
> >Then I saw that there are more than one Zarathustra with Reiner, was I
> >fooled?
> >C Thomas
> >
>
> I know most listeners prefer Reiner, but I much prefer Karajan. I am
> not a Karajan fan, and prefer him for no other work -- he just does it
> best. There are many instances of rythms in the piece that are almost
> never interpretted properly, making it quite a different, and inferior
> piece, and Reiner makes these errors. Comparing to a recording by
> Strauss himself, it is clear that Karajan, not Reiner, does it as the
> composer wished, and he does sound "more correct" and satisfying.
> Listen, and you will be convinced.
>
Kempe with Dresden does it better than either of them.
ENagamine
Aloha,
Eric
Mr. Mike
ENagamine <en...@lava.net> writes:
>I believe that the Papillon issue has the Leinsdorf/BSO Heldenleben.
That would be a good coupling ... but the Papillon one which I have has
Leontyne Price singing the 4 Last Songs and some excerpts from Die Frau
Ohne Schatten.
T.H. GILLINGWATER
Has anyone heard the new Solti / BPO disc on decca? Awful case bu what
about the performance?
Tom G (chb...@leeds.ac.uk)