Brandenburg Concertos
Jonathan Frome
recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos? Thanks to everyone who replies, in
advance.
Jonathan Frome
Asbed Bedrossian
>I still enjoy Ray Leppard's recording; But Hogwood's version was too shrill
>from the start; something about this recording that bothered me.
Something about Hogwood has always bothered me. His recordings sound
too dry to me. Maybe I'm just biased by the 'attitude' that comes
across in his liner notes.
I do love the brass in his Brandenburgs though.
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Chris Ischay
Frome) writes:
My favorite recording probably falls into the un-PC category these days. I
have always been fond of the recording issued on Nonesuch by Karl
Ristenpart and the Chamber Orchestra of the Saar. The soloists include
Rampal and Gustav Leonhardt.
Since this was one of my "growing up records," it has always been hard for
me to hear other versions. Still, I sampled lots of versions for about 10
years (but well before the likes of Norrington and Gardiner) and never
found one I liked better.
The playing is lively, the orchestra very respectable, and the style is
unaffected. The moment I still can't live without is the cadenza in the
first movement of #5. Perhaps someone has improved on the interpretation
in the last 10 or 15 years, but I doubt another could ever replace this one
for me.
Chris Ischay
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Ross A Fletcher
>Subject: Re: Brandenburg Concertos
>From: ja...@Virginia.EDU ("Jonathan A. Cook <jac2y>")
>Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 19:28:44 GMT
>Fabulous, evocative, truly Baroque.
>
>[preparing for enemy fire ;-) ]
Not from me, but what about Musica Antiqua Koln's recording. Pretty
amazing playing.
Ross
Asbed Bedrossian
The Taverner Players.
I went through enough versions until I finally settled on this version, and
I'm no longer looking. :) I find their rendition absolutely delightful
and authentic. If you can give it a listen in some store, do it. You'll
buy it.
I still enjoy Ray Leppard's recording; But Hogwood's version was too shrill
from the start; something about this recording that bothered me.
:ll
Jonathan A. Cook <jac2y>
Without a doubt, Harnoncourt/Concentus Musicus Wien on Teldec.
Fabulous, evocative, truly Baroque.
[preparing for enemy fire ;-) ]
Jon, ja...@virginia.edu "Aktion!"
Don Pajerek
For a hair-raising listening experience, try the Musica Antiqua Koln
recording on DG Arkiv.
Don Pajerek
Standard disclaimers apply.
Terje Rydland
Cameron) wrote:
>
> Any opinions on the Jordi Savall (or is it under the Hesperion XX name?)
> Brandenburgs? I recall hearing good things about this recording but I
> haven't been able to find it.
I'm interested too. I have heard and read very good reviews of this.
It is recorded on the (french?) AstrŽe label.
Terje Rydland
Dept. of Informatics, UNIT, Trondheim, Norway
Internet : ter...@ifi.unit.no
Don Cameron
:>> recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos? Thanks to everyone who replies, in
:>> advance.
:>Without a doubt, Harnoncourt/Concentus Musicus Wien on Teldec.
:>Fabulous, evocative, truly Baroque.
:>
:>[preparing for enemy fire ;-) ]
:Not from me, but what about Musica Antiqua Koln's recording. Pretty
:amazing playing.
Any opinions on the Jordi Savall (or is it under the Hesperion XX name?)
Brandenburgs? I recall hearing good things about this recording but I
haven't been able to find it. BTW, who is the harpsichordist on this
record for Brandenburg #5?
Oh, and speaking of the FAQ, there's some significant J.S. Bach keyboard music
recommended, but the Well-Tempered Clavier is not included. Seems like a
big omission.
Don Cameron "my other car is a harpsichord"
Bob Sutton
> OK, this is not in the FAQ, but is undoubtedly a FAQ. What are some
> recommended recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos? Thanks to everyone
> who replies, in advance.
I'm probably going to get a lot of flames for this, but my personal
favorites of the Brandenburgs are the realizations of Walter/Wendy Carlos
in the "Switched-On Brandenburgs". In fact my first real experience with
Bach was with Switched-On Bach.
BTW, send flames to /dev/null. :)
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Thomas J. Trebisky
>> recommended recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos? Thanks to everyone
>> who replies, in advance.
I have the set by Pinnock -- 2 CD's -- Deutsche Grammaphone (well Archiv,
I think), mid-Price. I find them very pleasant -- apparently this is
original instruments and there are those that balk at this, but it is
very much to my liking.
My unhesitating recommendation -- in fact anything of Bach's done by
Pinnock would be worth grabbing in my estimation.
Just to tack a rider on this bill -- what are recommendations
for the infamous Pachelbel's Canon. I saw a disk last night and almost
bought it. It was a whole slew of Baroque stuff by Leppard.
Does anyone have comments on this disk (or Leppard in general), or
have a specific recommendation for Pachelbel's Canon?
The Penguin guide seems utterly useless here.
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Chris Brewster
what are recommendations for the infamous Pachelbel's Canon.
Avoid it.
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Gregory Taylor
This is *not* a recommendation.
There's a great old Erato LP that nearly everyone in the world
loathes because it's conducted at something like one-half to
one-third of the notated tempo; it's positively treacly. On the
strength of this, I cranked a digitized recording of the piece
through the phase vocoder and slowed it waaaaay down without
changing its pitch. Worked fine for me (sounded just like that
Goercki piece that Carl Tait was whining about) .... Kind of like
a hurry-up version of Bryars' "Sinking of the Titanic." :)
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Roland Hutchinson
>Thomas J. Trebisky is looking for versions of Pachelbel's Canon....
>This is *not* a recommendation.
>There's a great old Erato LP that nearly everyone in the world
>loathes because it's conducted at something like one-half to
>one-third of the notated tempo; it's positively treacly. On the
>strength of this, I cranked a digitized recording of the piece
>through the phase vocoder and slowed it waaaaay down without
>changing its pitch. Worked fine for me (sounded just like that
>Goercki piece that Carl Tait was whining about) .... Kind of like
>a hurry-up version of Bryars' "Sinking of the Titanic." :)
Oh. My. God.
Actually, the performances everyone knows are something like one-half
speed. It's kinda nice to hear the thing played at about M.M.
quarter-note = 80 by a trio of virtuoso baroque fiddlers.
On the other hand, someone once made an extended-play version that may
have been even more painfully slow even than the version you describe.
(Or maybe it is the same version??) I once heard it broadcast on a
public radio program called "Music from the Hearts of Space," which I
sincerely hope has since vanished from the airwaves back into the
etherial limbo whence it sprung. Spacey it certainly was, with lots
of reverb. Something like M.M. quarter-note = 15. Maybe slower.
And maybe all on synths. Aaaaaaaaaaargh!
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Chris Brewster
... I once heard it broadcast on a
public radio program called "Music from the Hearts of Space," which I
sincerely hope has since vanished from the airwaves back into the
etherial limbo whence it sprung. ...
'Fraid not, Roland. Steven Hill is going strong, broadcasting what he
describes as "contemporary space music", as distinguished, presumably,
from early space music, such as Gabrieli, or maybe contemporary time
music. If you like the background music on PBS astronomy programs,
"Hearts of Space" is the show for you. And you can do your own version
of a stock MftHoS piece by just doing an extended "oooooooo".
David Brooks
| Actually, the performances everyone knows are something like one-half
| speed. It's kinda nice to hear the thing played at about M.M.
| quarter-note = 80 by a trio of virtuoso baroque fiddlers.
Ummm... on the version I last saw, that wouldn't be fast (the ground
bass was notated in half-notes; is that not standard?)
When I have to do this with my high-school orchestra, I generally take
it as fast as the fiddlers can cleanly manage the eighth notes, which
comes out about halfnote 68, and gets the thing over with quickly. With
a big rall at the end to please the peanut gallery. It actually seems
to acquire some shape, too.
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Roland Hutchinson
>rhut...@pilot.njin.net (Roland Hutchinson) writes:
>| Actually, the performances everyone knows are something like one-half
>| speed. It's kinda nice to hear the thing played at about M.M.
>| quarter-note = 80 by a trio of virtuoso baroque fiddlers.
>Ummm... on the version I last saw, that wouldn't be fast (the ground
>bass was notated in half-notes; is that not standard?)
Nope, quarter notes, unless I've really lost my memory completely. If
so, everybody please double all the numbers I gave!
Maybe you had a version in bigger note values so as not to frighten
the schoolchildren with thirtysecond notes?
Roland
Paul Homchick
>
>(Or maybe it is the same version??) I once heard it broadcast on a
>public radio program called "Music from the Hearts of Space," which I
>sincerely hope has since vanished from the airwaves back into the
>etherial limbo whence it sprung.
What I have heard of MftHoS has been pretty insipid, I woulnd't
suggest it to any friends. However, not all music of this type is so
terrible.
The Harmonic Choir, lead by David Hykes, is a case in point. The
Harmonic Choir uses the techniques of Mongolian Hoomi singing (voicing
a fundamental and overtones at the same time) as well as techniques
borrowed from Tibetan mantric chants. At first blush, the music
sounds like vapid New Age stuff, but a closer listen shows real
virtosity and creativity. It is much closer to the work of Pauline
Oliveros and Stewart Dempster than it is to MofHoS. The only CD I
have found is "The Harmonic Choir: Hearing Solar Winds" on OCORA
C.558607 which was recorded at the Abbey of Thoronet in France which
gives the recording a lot of natural re-verb. It is a very
interesting experience, not like anything you've heard before.
Perhaps some of our avant-garde or choir experts would like to expand
on my limited note?
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Gregory Taylor
>>gta...@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor) writes:
>>(Or maybe it is the same version??) I once heard it broadcast on a
>>public radio program called "Music from the Hearts of Space," which I
>>sincerely hope has since vanished from the airwaves back into the
>>etherial limbo whence it sprung.
I understand that this quotation stuff gets a little dense and heavy,
but *I* didn't write this. While I'm ah...not a big fan of MftHoS, they
*did* play my work back in the early 80s, so I cannot wholeheartedly
trash them. MftHoS *does* serve some purpose, even if many of us have
a hard time appreciating it. I'm unwilling to desire hegemony for my
personal trickbag of prejudices on those terms. Never have been, I hope.
That said, the Harmonic Choir's Ocora disc *is*, in my opine, pretty
lovely. It segues nicely into Somei Satoh's "Mantra" on New Albion,
and provides a nice overview of tape vs. live method.
Regards,
Bill Heelan
[...]
> The only CD I have found is "The Harmonic Choir: Hearing Solar Winds" on
> OCORA C.558607 which was recorded at the Abbey of Thoronet in France which
> gives the recording a lot of natural re-verb.
I also have "Harmonic Meetings", which is quite good.
It's not entirely clear who to write to if your record store doesn't have
it (or know about it). The catalogue number is 13013-2; two addresses
listed are:
Celestial Harmonies
P.O. Box 30122
Tuscon, Arizona 85751
U.S.A.
(602) 326-4400
and
Kuckuck Schallplatten
Habsburgerplatz 2
8000 Munchen 40
Germany
(0 89) 33 2078
I recall seeing a third CD, as well, but I'm not positive about this.
- Bill
Gregory Taylor
Hearing Solar Winds [Ocora]
Current Circulation [Celestial Harmonies]
Harmonic Meetings [Celestial Harmonies]
at this point, David Hykes more or less continues the work as a solo
artist.
David Hykes/Djamchid Chemirani "Windhorse Riders" [New Albion]
David Hykes "Let The Lover Be" [Auvidis]