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AWOL TORRES - Court Martial - No To Iraq War!!!!

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torresD

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Nov 26, 2002, 3:51:55 AM11/26/02
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No to killing innocent men, women and kids for Oil.
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AWOL GI Refuses Service in 'Gulf War II'

(CNSNews.com) - U.S. Army Private Wilfredo Torres stepped forward this past
Monday to say he was absent without leave for nearly a year because he
wanted no part of a U.S. invasion of Iraq. The announcement from Torres, a
19-year-old from Rochester, N.Y., came on Veteran's Day and just three days
after the United Nations Security Council approved a resolution authorizing
the use of American force to disarm Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

Torres surrendered Monday afternoon to U.S. military police at Fort Myer,
Virginia, was incarcerated overnight on an AWOL charge and was to be
transferred to Fort Knox, Ky., Tuesday morning, according to his attorney
Tod Ensign, who is also the director of a veterans' rights advocacy group
called Citizen Soldier.

Torres was participating in basic training at Fort Benning, Ga., when he
left without permission shortly after Thanksgiving last year. Monday, he
told CNSNews.com he is ready to accept the consequences for his actions even
if it means a dishonorable discharge from the Army.

"I am returning to the military today so my case can be resolved. If I am
punished, then I am ready," he said.

"Since I left Fort Benning, Georgia, last November, I thought about our
country's foreign policy and my potential role as a soldier. I have decided
that it will be wrong for our country to attack Iraq on its own, without
working as part of the U.N.," said Torres.

Even after Friday's unanimous vote by the U.N. Security Council, authorizing
the use of force against Iraq, Torres said he is still convinced the United
States wants to invade Iraq on its own.

"I'm no expert, but I think that such an attack will undermine the U.N. and
affect America's standing in this world," Torres said.

"If we do [attack], I won't be going with them," he added.

While turning himself in on Veterans Day, Torres denied he meant any
disrespect to military veterans. "I have the greatest respect for them, but
from what I have read lately, our government has not done a good job of
caring for Gulf War and Vietnam Vets," he said.

Torres said he realizes he could be court-martialed or receive a
dishonorable discharge but those are chances he is willing to take.

Ensign and other activists are already labeling any military action against
Iraq, "Gulf War II." Then-President George H.W. Bush launched the first
Persian Gulf War in 1991 to expel Iraqi troops from Kuwait. Now, the former
president's son is America's commander-in-chief.

"If the war goes ahead and my own reading is that [President George W.] Bush
thinks he can go ahead without any further need for a further U.N
resolution, I think we will hear from dozens and even hundreds of young
people," said Ensign. "I've been getting calls already from reservists who
are asking about their options.

"I think this movement will grow, if [Bush] goes ahead with the war there,"
he said.

Fort Knox, Ky., is the Army's main facility for AWOL GIs.

A dishonorable discharge, according to Ensign, could bar Torres from future
Army and other veterans' benefits.

According to the Uniform Code For Military Justice, if a soldier goes AWOL
for 30 days, the government changes the status to desertion. Both are
violations under the code.

When the status is changed to desertion, according to the code, the military
contacts family members and issues an arrest warrant to all of the law
enforcement agencies in the United States. If police then stop the
individual, he/she will be arrested and returned to military control.

An AWOL soldier, under article 86 of the Uniform Code For Military Justice,
faces a maximum punishment of "a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all
pay and allowances, and confinement at hard labor for 18 months."

Article 85 of the code, dealing with desertion, establishes that "the
maximum punishment is a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and
allowances, and confinement at hard labor for three years. In times of war,
the maximum punishment for desertion is death by lethal injection."

The U.S. Army had no comment on the Torres case. The offices of the American
Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) were closed Monday in honor of
Veterans Day.

But in a Veterans Day message, American Legion National Commander Ronald
Conley made it clear that any invasion of Iraq would mean an increase in the
number of active duty troops.

"An invasion of Iraq could result in the mobilization of about 300,000
members of Reserve and National Guard units," said Conley. "Increasing the
active-duty force, from its current 1.35 million to at least 1.6 million, is
a more sensible way to correct the undersized total force than demanding
long-term deployments from Reserve and Guard personnel."

Conley said those in military uniform should be proud to serve America.

"It's a privilege to wear this nation's uniform and to serve under this
nation's flag, which is an international symbol of freedom, justice and
democracy. On the other hand, one must be prepared to make the Supreme
Sacrifice to defend freedom, as more than one million U.S. citizen-soldiers
have done," he said.

Patxi

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Nov 26, 2002, 6:07:51 AM11/26/02
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Hey, what can you say, this guy is a chicken shit. He is not the first
soldier to chicken out from a war. If he had any sense he would have
applied for consciencious objector status. Now he can be court martialed.
Another thing, how long was this guy in the Army? I bet a short time so he
knew what the foreign policy was before he joined, so my conclusion is, this
Mr. Torres is a chicken shit. Punto and final. What a dumb spic..

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Anonymous

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Nov 26, 2002, 6:20:41 AM11/26/02
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I believe he got fed with the New Army, fled and subsequently jumped
into the anti-war wagon just to justify himself...

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Obervador

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Nov 26, 2002, 10:23:58 AM11/26/02
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This pathetic bastard can't even get his story strainght. WE WERE GOING INTO
AFGHANISTAN NOT IRAQ.
This is an ALL VOLUNTEER MILITARY, he was the one who VOLUNTEERED to
serve, ANYWHERE.

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:51:55 GMT, "torresD" <torr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>No to killing innocent men, women and kids for Oil.

Tell the above to Kofi Annan and the Security Council who voted unanimously to
enfore the inspections on Iraq !!!

Don Flink

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Nov 26, 2002, 10:53:05 AM11/26/02
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:51:55 GMT, doris "the pink ho" torres wrote:

---BS--

What a piece of shit that soldier, and it had to be a torres!

Patxi

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Nov 26, 2002, 7:35:44 PM11/26/02
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Se me olvido ese detalle. Tenia que ser un torres, que ostia! Pero no creo
todos los torres son como este individuo o la torresD.

--
Peacemaker es Pato
Victor Puerto Rican misfit
Cleo es Pato
Matias Brugman es un Cabrón
Jaime Rivera Sierra, a donde te fuistes?
Nathaniel es maricon y mamao
Los Independentistas TODOS son unos ciegos
La independencia seria la muerte de Puerto Rico
Sadaam el heroe de los pipi(olos), days are numbered
Remember: Delta Is Ready When You Are
www.Delta.com

Patxi

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Nov 26, 2002, 7:43:06 PM11/26/02
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I read this morning that this guy Torres is a homosexual and was going to be
discharged from the service so he went AWOL and now is saying that he is
against the foreign policy of the United States. He obviously was not a
member of the Special Forces. He was a leg in the regular Army.. More to
come, story developing...

--
Peacemaker es Pato
Victor Puerto Rican misfit
Cleo es Pato
Matias Brugman es un Cabrón
Jaime Rivera Sierra, a donde te fuistes?
Nathaniel es maricon y mamao
Los Independentistas TODOS son unos ciegos
La independencia seria la muerte de Puerto Rico
Sadaam el heroe de los pipi(olos), days are numbered
Remember: Delta Is Ready When You Are
www.Delta.com

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Dragonfly®

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:49:09 PM11/26/02
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The scumbag is no worth my comments!

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Don Flink

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:20:31 PM11/26/02
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 00:35:44 GMT, "Patxi" <no.ad...@lonestar.com>
wrote:

>Se me olvido ese detalle. Tenia que ser un torres, que ostia! Pero no creo
>todos los torres son como este individuo o la torresD.

Claro que todos los Torres no son asi, quizas sea un familiar cercano
de la doris!!!

Emeterio Cruet

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:33:41 PM11/26/02
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Depending how far he got thru boot-camp the military court may not have jurisdiction and this may be settled as a breach of contract. Sexual preference is irrelevant regardless since the chrage is AWOL (which I think requires no intent, I may be wrong about this).

This is interesting...

Don Flink

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Nov 29, 2002, 2:07:03 PM11/29/02
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:20:14 GMT, Tamakún <ElG...@attbi.com> wrote:

>Srta. Torres:

¿Señorita torres!? Eso si que da risa. ¿Señorita pa'quien, pa un
burro!?

Y hablando de burros, como hace tiempo no posteabas por aqui, pense
que ya habias usados tus siete vidas, y por ello encendi una vela en
tu nombre. Desgraciadamente, fue por gusto! Oh well, maybe next
time!!!

Jorge Sendón

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Nov 30, 2002, 9:26:12 PM11/30/02
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Un placer volverte a leer en este grupo.
Es bueno renovar el aire de vez en cuando ¿como te ha ido?


El Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:20:14 GMT, Tamakún <ElG...@attbi.com>
escribió:

>
>Srta. Torres:
>
>Si puede comunicarse con el recluta Torres, dele la dirección de Pedro
>Martori, Martirio puede decirle que tiene que hacer para salir del
>aprieto, después de todo, eso fue lo que hizo nuestro Periquito
>Martirio, cuando desertó de la fuerza aérea y se fue para Cuba a
>defender la revolución y a pelear contra los mercenarios Cochinos.
>
>En ultimo caso, que se mude para Canadá, y se ponga a trabajar para la
>CIA.
>Como es natural.
>A periquito Martirio le ha ido bien con su partime.
>
>Estos que tanto critican a Torres por desertar, se metieron la
>lengüita en el culito cuando le eche a Martirio en cara que era un
>traidor y un desertor
>Estos cretinos no dicen nada cuando se comenta de uno de sus aliados
>delincuente,
> ¿Te fijaste?
>
>¡Que desvergüenza Señores, que desvergüenza!
>
>¡Que cosa más grande la vida!
>
>Afectos Tony.


"El mundo tiene dos campos: todos los que aborrecen la libertad,
porque solo la quieren para si, estan en uno;
los que aman la libertad, y la quieren para todos, estan en otro"

-Jose Marti


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Cordialmente

Jorge Sendón
jorg...@satlink.com
Ciudad Autonoma de
Buenos Aires
Republica Argentina

Jorge Sendón

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Dec 4, 2002, 9:40:44 PM12/4/02
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Como tu dices "Pobre Gente"
Poca creatividad y mucha menos inteligencia.
Se extraña tambien los mensajes de Luis Ortega.
Espero que hayas disfrutado la visita de tu hijo y me alegro que estes
bien de salud, aunque mas viejo.
Un gran abrazo desde lo que queda de Argentina.

El Sun, 01 Dec 2002 16:59:01 GMT, Tamakún <ElG...@attbi.com>
escribió:

> Jorge, Muchas gracias hermano.
>
>
> Estoy muy bien, me ausente por varias razones, una tengo de visita
>a mi hijo menor, que por cierto regresa mañana a Hollywood después de
>pasar dos meses con nosotros.
>
> Segunda; el grupo ha perdido el sabor que tenia, pues muchos de los
>que le daban colorido se han ausentado, Hilda y otros de los más
>polémicos, como Fred Humberto, Luis, en fin el grupo ha sufrido una
>metamorfosis radical, de los viejos solo quedan los peores y alguno
>como tu que son de los mejores.
>
> ¡Pero estoy aquí de nuevo, al pie del cañón, matando "thread!"
>
> ¿Te fijaste que desde que escribí mi nota en este "thread," nadie
>más se ha despachado con cuchara grande, nadie ha comentado ni ha
>crucificado más a Torres [el que desertó] nadie me ha desmentido ni
>contrariado?
>
> Tenles lastima Jorge, son tan hipócritas y malvados, que cuento
>se ven descubiertos atacan ferozmente al mensajero, pero al mensaje no
>lo tocan, si tienen municiones le tiran tiros al mensaje, si no,
>tratan de matar al mensajero a culatazos, además, tratan de, usando la
>flexibilidad del idioma, tapar el sol con un dedo, y a mi lo que mas
>risa me da, es que se aplauden uno al otro, y se imponen medallitas de
>reconocimiento, ¡Pobre gente!
>
> Es un insulto a la inteligencia, leer a estos pobres diablos
>coqueteando con la mentira, mentiras que ni ellos mismos la creen, dan
>pena, son irracionales de cuna [Sinvergüenzas], todos o casi todos los
>humanos vivimos hoy nuestras fantasías de ayer, mañana seremos lo que
>soñamos hoy y así llegaremos a la tumba sin nunca "haber puesto los
>pies en el suelo".
>
> Bueno amigo, gracias de nuevo y saluda a mi amada Argentina en
>mi nombre.
>
>Tony el Gato.

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