Proxomitron or Webwasher?
Jim Scott
to commit themselves.
I have just discovered Proxomitron and Webwasher and cannot decide which is
for me (or do I need either?). I use Popupkiller, but notice that it is heavy
on resources and also Cookie Pal (not freeware I know, but it does the job
well, although it took some time to 'train' it).
I'm not too bothered by banners, but would be happy to lose them if it does
not affect the functioning of anything else. I use Incredimail (sometimes OE
with scripting disabled. I've tried the dedicated e-mail clients, but don't
like any of them), ZA and AVG.
I've looked at the user groups for Proxomitron (which looks complicated) and
Webwasher (less complex, but does it do the same things?).
I use my computer mainly for newsgroups using Xnews, which took some getting
used to, but is magic, for downloads of freeware and for mail to friends. The
occasional spammer gets through, but not many.
All this stuff seems a bit paranoid, but I'm sure I need them. Or do I?
Really the question is what do I keep and what do I chuck?
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Thanks. Jim
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^Thip^
>Hi! Just popped across from alt.comp.freeware as nobody there seems to want
>to commit themselves.
<snip>
I think we all have our personal preferences--whatever works best.
That's probably why no one was willing to make a commitment.
I use AVG, ZA, ANTS, and Proxymitron. I also d/loaded a Host file
that kills most of the ads. In addition, I generally do my surfing
with an IE frontend called iNet-Tabs--it's a *nice* tabbed browser
that asks whether or not you want to open a popup (which will open
in a new tab if you say yes). I also use Netlaunch to open/close most
everything but AVG (which loads on startup). Everything is freeware
and none of it puts much of a drain on resources.
I have tried WebWasher and just didn't care for it, but that's
strictly a personal preference--I think WebWasher is very good; it's
just not for me. I left Proxymitron at the default settings. It's
fine just the way it is for my needs. I feel like I'm well protected,
and I've managed to do away with just about all the annoying things
that can happen when surfing.
Hope that helps!
Jim Scott
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> Jim Scott wrote:
>
>>Hi! Just popped across from alt.comp.freeware as nobody there seems to
>>want to commit themselves.
>
> <snip>
>
<jimsnip>
To Boomer: yes I use AVG and ZA and only mentioned it in case either got in
the way of Prox/WebW. Perhaps I should have a grammar checker too :o)
To Thip: others may have a personal preference through their experience of
Prox/WebW, but since the beauty of them is that they go about their business,
without bells and whistles, how does an ignoramous like me know which is
doing the better job or indeed whether they are doing anything that
PopK/CookP are not doing anyhow. It is your infinite wisdom I seek (creep,
creep) so I don't have to use my limited expensive web hours trialling each
in turn until I reach some kind of conclusion. Thanks anyhow.
--
Aguydude
> for me (or do I need either?). I use Popupkiller, but notice that it is
heavy
> on resources and also Cookie Pal (not freeware I know, but it does the job
Check out KillAd (http://wwwwin.wplus.net/pp/fsc/). Light on resources and
light on HD space. To "install" it, just make a shortcut to it in your
startup menu. The author didn't see any reason to use registry entries or to
hide ini files all over your HD.
^Thip^
<snip>
>To Thip: others may have a personal preference through their experience of
>Prox/WebW, but since the beauty of them is that they go about their business,
>without bells and whistles, how does an ignoramous like me know which is
>doing the better job or indeed whether they are doing anything that
>PopK/CookP are not doing anyhow. It is your infinite wisdom I seek (creep,
>creep) so I don't have to use my limited expensive web hours trialling each
>in turn until I reach some kind of conclusion. Thanks anyhow.
After rereading your original post it seemed to me that your main
concern was PopUpKiller being heavy on resources....again, I would
like to mention iNet-Tabs Web Browser. It can be configured to never
open popups or open in a new tab/window, or ask whether to open
(the option I chose). It also has options for cookies,
which I like (I dump them all after every session). Those are listed
under view/browser options. Read about it at:
http://www.coleridge.freeserve.co.uk/
Unforunately I have absolutely NO wisdom (just ask my kids), and being
your ordinary run-of-the-mill brain dead working parent, I decided I'd
better protect myself the best way(s) I could. So, I use AVG and
update as often as they offer updates...ANTS is a nice Trojan
scanner....Proxymitron does a good job of blocking (visit a list of
sites, then install and visit again--you'll see). If you don't like
it, uninstall it, but I think you will be satisfied with the results
of the default installation. Once you're comfortable with it, you
can play with some of the options, and if that doesn't work for you,
just uncheck whatever you checked or vice versa. Once you poke
around it you'll find it's not as intimidating as it first seems.
The first time I looked at it I went "Ack!" and uninstalled it, but
like I said, I didn't care for WebWasher so I went back to it and
stayed. Now it's a "must-have."
Did I do better this time? :-)
Jim Scott
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9/10 ex-teacher - cannot break the habit.Have a silver *
Jim Scott
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9/10 ex-teacher - cannot break the habit.Have a silver *
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Jim (uk)
Jim Scott
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Oh dear I knew this would happen!
Now I've also got iNet-tabs and KillAd to ADD and here's me trying to
subtract.:o)
Is killAd covered by what Prox/WebW do?
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Jim Scott
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> Jim Scott <j...@jimXscott.screaming.net> wrote in
> news:Xns913A5E6C...@130.133.1.4:
>
> <snip>
>> Oh dear I knew this would happen!
>> Now I've also got iNet-tabs and KillAd to ADD and here's me trying to
>> subtract.:o) Is killAd covered by what Prox/WebW do?
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Seems like you are fairly happy with what you have but want
> the best for your needs.
>
> I ran into the same problem this week with recipe freeware.
> I got all sorts of suggestions.
>
> I downloaded them all and tryed them all.
>
> Maybe thats what you need to do?
>
> Find a site/url that has a lot of popups and/or ads/banners
> and try your programs one at a time. Or something like
> that.
>
> Most everyone is going to tell you of their favorite.
> But I think Aguydude's suggeston is great if you are
> worried about resources.
>
> BTW I tryed out about 7 popup killers before I
> found the one "I" liked.
>
> Good Luck
> Boomer
>
Thanks folks.
Fiddled around all afternoon with prox' and webw' with not much success.
Tried iNet-Tabs found it a bit odd. I have tried Opera, BrownIE and Netscape
in the past, but keep coming home to IE.
Similarly for e-mail clients I've tried Eudora, Fox, Calypso, Pegasus and
Mail Warrior, but keep coming back to OE or its pretty sister Incredimail.
As you can see I do agree that Xnews keeps me from going back to IE for news.
But back to the original problem - I only know Popupkiller uses resources
because Taskinfo showed me so. Earlier versions shutdown when you came off
the web, the latest doesn't - that's all. I don't suppose it makes a blind
bit of difference to what I do. Popupkiller and Cookie Pal seem to have one
advantage over Porx/WebW and that is they tell you what they are doing and
once you choose to keep, then after that they do the job without bothering
you.
I may try them again, but for now I'll stick with what I'm happy with.
No doubt I'll be back to bother you.
--
Jim u.k.
Aguydude
"Jim Scott" <j...@jimXscott.screaming.net> wrote in message
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I use KillAd and a hosts file. Gets rid of my ads, and pop-ups but leaves
my cookies alone.
(http://home.att.net/~willowbrookemill/pricelessinternet.html#WebPageSpamand
ContentFilter) Anyhow, this method is very friendly to my resources since
host files don't really suck up resources (since they don't run) and Kill-Ad
doesn't suck up resources either. Kill-Ad does not shut down when Internet
Explorer (Netscape, Opera) shuts down. The only thing to keep in mind about
Kill-Ad is that it won't close all pop-ups unless you set it to do so.
Jim Scott
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> "Jim Scott" <j...@jimXscott.screaming.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns913A5E6C...@130.133.1.4...
>> "Aguydude" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in
>> news:9qag3g$mjd92$1...@ID-61696.news.dfncis.de:
>>
>> > <snip>
>
I'm back!
Either I misread or one of you mentioned AdKiller. I tried it and it runs all
the time using ~40% of your resources.
Bye bye AdKiller.
Hello Killad which seems a lot less thirsty. Now to see if it does the
business.
--
Jim
Tyneside, England
Jim Scott
> "Aguydude" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:9qegfm$nrg9i$1...@ID-61696.news.dfncis.de:
>
>>
>> "Jim Scott" <j...@jimXscott.screaming.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns913A5E6C...@130.133.1.4...
>>> "Aguydude" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in
>>> news:9qag3g$mjd92$1...@ID-61696.news.dfncis.de:
>>>
>>> > <snip>
>>
> I'm back!
> Either I misread or one of you mentioned AdKiller. I tried it and it runs
> all the time using ~40% of your resources.
> Bye bye AdKiller.
> Hello Killad which seems a lot less thirsty. Now to see if it does the
> business.
Oh dear!
Back to Popup Killer at least you know what it's doing.
Jim Scott
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ex:
> After drinking 3 Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters, Jim Scott mumbled in
> <news:Xns913BAF7D0...@130.133.1.4>:
>
>> Oh dear!
>
> Ha, you got your lipstick back on again ;0)
>
Bitch
Aguydude
> > I'm back!
> > Either I misread or one of you mentioned AdKiller. I tried it and it
runs
> > all the time using ~40% of your resources.
> > Bye bye AdKiller.
> > Hello Killad which seems a lot less thirsty. Now to see if it does the
> > business.
> Oh dear!
> Back to Popup Killer at least you know what it's doing.
KillAd works great. Just right click the taskbar icon and fiddle with the
settings. If you have a pop-up, click the icon and add the pop-up to the
database or just set the program to kill all popups of a certain size.
Holding ctrl temporarily disables the program.
Jim Scott
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> Jim Scott <j...@jimXscott.screaming.net> wrote in
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> <snip>
>>>
>
>> Bitch
>
> I sure hope you meant "shucks".
>
O.k. then "shucks"
Jim Scott
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> "Jim Scott" <j...@jimXscott.screaming.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns913A5E6C...@130.133.1.4...
>> "Aguydude" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in
>> news:9qag3g$mjd92$1...@ID-61696.news.dfncis.de:
>>
>> > <snips>
> I use KillAd and a hosts file. Gets rid of my ads, and pop-ups but
> leaves my cookies alone.
<snip>
What's this hosts file thingy?
I'm trying a prog called AdFree which uses one. As far as I could tell whilst
(you like whilst?) loading it's a WinNT thing which works on W98, but beyond
that it didn't say.
--
Jim
Tyneside, England
Michael
When you type a URL like www.bigboobies a translation is required from this
human friendly form to a computer friendly dotted number form like
142.78.123.1. To do this your browser connects to a Domain Name Server (DNS)
for the translation, but before this it has a quick look in the hosts file
stored on your own hard-drive to see if www.bigboobies is referenced there.
If it is it doesn't bother with the DNS. Upshot is that you can associate
sites like http://www.ads_r_us with the localhost (127.0.0.1), ie your own
machine. This effectively short-circuits the ad lookup and shazam no ads.
Ofcourse you have to run a current hosts file to make any impact.
I prefer Proxomitron by the way.
Michael.
Cre8ive
news_acc[REMOVE]@hotmail.com says...
> > What's this hosts file thingy?
http://www.accs-net.com/hosts/
Jim Scott
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So now there's:
Proxomitron
Webwasher
Hosts file
eDexter
DNSKong
Popupkiller and the like
Cookie Pal and his brothers
Adfree/Killad/Adkiller
Aaaaaaah !!!!
Cre8ive
j...@jimXscott.screaming.net says...
> Cre8ive <whe...@nunayabiz.nez> wrote in
> news:MPG.1637e2eb3...@news.earthlink.net:
>
> So now there's:
> Proxomitron
> Webwasher
> Hosts file
> eDexter
> DNSKong
> Popupkiller and the like
> Cookie Pal and his brothers
> Adfree/Killad/Adkiller
>
> Aaaaaaah !!!!
>
Jim Scott
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I know, I know, but surely there is an optimum setup.
Cre8ive
<3bcf2138$0$58170$892e...@authen.puce.readfreenews.net>,
Boomer.__.Baby._.@.hotmail.com says...> news:Xns913E83945...@130.133.1.4:
> <snip>
> >> I would rather those than the alternative
> >>
> > I know, I know, but surely there is an optimum setup.
various and sundry apps will, if configured. I like layers
of protection, personally. Steve Gibson at GRC is supposedly
working on an prog that will do all those tasks. BTW, his
new port probe is up and it is fast. Don't have the exact
URL, but its at grc.com
Cre8
Cre8ive
whe...@nunayabiz.nez says...
> In article <Xns913E6EF62...@130.133.1.4>,
> j...@jimXscott.screaming.net says...
> > Cre8ive <whe...@nunayabiz.nez> wrote in
> > news:MPG.1637e2eb3...@news.earthlink.net:
> >
> > So now there's:
> > Proxomitron
> > Webwasher
> > Hosts file
> > eDexter
> > DNSKong
> > Popupkiller and the like
> > Cookie Pal and his brothers
> > Adfree/Killad/Adkiller
> >
> > Aaaaaaah !!!!
> >
Jim Scott
news:MPG.163bbe6ba...@news.earthlink.net:
Why?
These are security programs not memory savers.
Cre8ive
j...@jimXscott.screaming.net says...
> > Just get more RAM
> >
> Why?
> These are security programs not memory savers.
>
at the same time
Jim Scott
news:MPG.163bd6e89...@news.earthlink.net:
Well yes.
I am running Cookie Pal and Popupkiller and (Adfree out of interest). I like
them 'cos they tell you what they are doing. What do Prox/Webw do that these
do not do?
Cre8ive
I don't know about prox. I do use webwasher and it will
block cookies, url's (configurable with wildcards), scripts,
popup windows, webbugs, referrer, etc. I have been using it
for almost 2 years (almost since its inception) and like it
very much. This is a site about ww:
http://www.pacificnet.net/~bbruce/
Regards,
C*
Jim Scott
> Hi! Just popped across from alt.comp.freeware as nobody there seems to
> want to commit themselves.
> I have just discovered Proxomitron and Webwasher and cannot decide which
> is for me (or do I need either?). I use Popupkiller, but notice that it
> is heavy on resources and also Cookie Pal (not freeware I know, but it
> does the job well, although it took some time to 'train' it).
> I'm not too bothered by banners, but would be happy to lose them if it
> does not affect the functioning of anything else. I use Incredimail
> (sometimes OE with scripting disabled. I've tried the dedicated e-mail
> clients, but don't like any of them), ZA and AVG.
> I've looked at the user groups for Proxomitron (which looks complicated)
> and Webwasher (less complex, but does it do the same things?).
> I use my computer mainly for newsgroups using Xnews, which took some
> getting used to, but is magic, for downloads of freeware and for mail to
> friends. The occasional spammer gets through, but not many.
> All this stuff seems a bit paranoid, but I'm sure I need them. Or do I?
> Really the question is what do I keep and what do I chuck?
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks. Jim
> To e-mail me direct miss out the X from my reply address above.
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Settled for Webwasher - it works a treat.
Thanks all