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Dame Delia Dampcrotch

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Jan 8, 2003, 3:50:46 PM1/8/03
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The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
gay escort?

Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.

And today, the letters started arriving at the tabloids and magazines
with clippings from back issues of a gay escort rag, published by "The
Advocate," with ads featuring "intimate massages" offered by a man who
looks exactly like Joe Millionaire with a Dana Point telephone number.
(For those who want to try the #, it has now been disconnected.)

For those not in the know, the alleged $19-thou-a-year "construction
worker" lives in Dana Point, one of the most exclusive suburbs in
ritzy Orange County, south of Los Angeles, and owns a Porsche. It
doesn't take a genius to figure out that someone who makes $19-thou a
year can't afford to live in Dana Point and drive a Porsche. Perhaps
it's more like Joe makes $19-thou a month.

The Fox network is elated about the show's high ratings but also has
been in a spin crisis since it was revealed that Joe made his living
as an underwear model in catalogs and websites catering to gay men,
and only moonlighted on occasion as a "construction worker." The
network now is in a panic, realizing all too late that many male
"models" use modeling as a cover, when they're really gay escorts.

A friend inside Fox told me this morning that PAs at the network have
been sent all over town to buy gay porn magazines to search for other
ads with pictures that look like Joe. Why? If the story goes wide, the
network wants to be prepared.

"The network's PR line will be," my friend says, "just because you
give a massage doesn't mean you're a prostitute."

Right. Sure. If you believe that, I'd like to show you something in a
lovely bridge.

Yours sincerely,

Dame Delia Dampcrotch

Kristy

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Jan 8, 2003, 3:54:38 PM1/8/03
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Oh my, why am I not surprised.
"Dame Delia Dampcrotch" <dame_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ian J. Ball

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Jan 8, 2003, 7:28:14 PM1/8/03
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In article <f908f6d0.03010...@posting.google.com>,

dame_...@hotmail.com (Dame Delia Dampcrotch) wrote:

> The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
> real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
> gay escort?
>
> Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
> and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
> show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
> they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.

I think this is great news! <evil smirk>

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Mr. Hole

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Jan 8, 2003, 7:29:27 PM1/8/03
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"Wyle Coyote" <ieie@ckfdk.w> wrote:

(Snipered)

>I still want to know who photographed
>Brad Pitts nudie pics?

Those were taken with a telescopic lens from very far away, and if you
recall Gwyneth Paltrow was in the photos too but no one seems to talk
about that, the 2 of them were vacationing at the time I believe.

&&
Mr. Hole

Geoduck

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Jan 8, 2003, 8:04:30 PM1/8/03
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On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 00:28:14 GMT, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:

>In article <f908f6d0.03010...@posting.google.com>,
> dame_...@hotmail.com (Dame Delia Dampcrotch) wrote:
>
>> The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
>> real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
>> gay escort?
>>
>> Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
>> and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
>> show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
>> they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.
>
>I think this is great news! <evil smirk>

The mind boggles to think that Fox could actually be this dumb. I
mean, OK, we know they're dumb, but to set up a show like this, and
*not* go over the would-be lead's entire background with a
fine-toothed comb?

Unless it's all part of the deliberate show publicity. *That* I could
believe.
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Mary

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Jan 8, 2003, 8:26:10 PM1/8/03
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In article <3578-3E1...@storefull-2335.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Hole) wrote:

Brad Pitt nudie pics? ooooo! Do you have a link?

Diamond DL Roth

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Jan 8, 2003, 8:49:42 PM1/8/03
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Isn't everyone a VP at a bank? I have had different tellers be VP of
something or other. I think banks have countless VPs so you feel you are
dealing with someone important.


"BFH" <bigfa...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in message
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> On 8 Jan 2003 12:50:46 -0800, dame_...@hotmail.com (Dame Delia


> Dampcrotch) wrote:
>
> >The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
> >real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
> >gay escort?
> >
> >Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
> >and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
> >show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
> >they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.
> >
> >And today, the letters started arriving at the tabloids and magazines
> >with clippings from back issues of a gay escort rag, published by "The
> >Advocate," with ads featuring "intimate massages" offered by a man who
> >looks exactly like Joe Millionaire with a Dana Point telephone number.
> >(For those who want to try the #, it has now been disconnected.)
> >
> >For those not in the know, the alleged $19-thou-a-year "construction
> >worker" lives in Dana Point, one of the most exclusive suburbs in
> >ritzy Orange County, south of Los Angeles, and owns a Porsche. It
> >doesn't take a genius to figure out that someone who makes $19-thou a
> >year can't afford to live in Dana Point and drive a Porsche. Perhaps
> >it's more like Joe makes $19-thou a month.
> >
>

> <snip>
>
> Don't know about the escort thingy, but it's also been reported that
> his Daddy is a VP at a bank. Joe Millionaire may not earn much, but
> maybe his Dad augments Joe's income.
>
> I will say this, Joe Millionaire comes off as being dumb as dirt.
>


Stacia

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Jan 8, 2003, 8:51:53 PM1/8/03
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"Ian J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> writes:
> dame_...@hotmail.com (Dame Delia Dampcrotch) wrote:

>> Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
>> and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
>> show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
>> they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.

>I think this is great news! <evil smirk>

And I think Fox knew it all along. What better way to get free ratings
than to get someone with a sleazy, shady past, and then feign surprise for
a few weeks. They also surreptitiously get away with saucy stuff they'd
not get away with on the network, and with this particular scenario,
garner publicity after the series is over.

* * *
Stacia * sta...@world.std.com * http://world.std.com/~stacia/
"Perhaps it was the spring. And something in her eyes
that was much older than Manhattan, Kansas."

Uniblab

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No one wants to talk about Gwyneth Patrow naked because she has a terrible
body.


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TabbyCat

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Jan 8, 2003, 9:12:40 PM1/8/03
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Diamond DL Roth wrote:
>
> Isn't everyone a VP at a bank? I have had different tellers be VP of
> something or other. I think banks have countless VPs so you feel you are
> dealing with someone important.


My mom was a bookkeeper at a bank when I was a kid, and she said exactly
that--banks have a million low-paid vice presidents.

FeAudrey

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Jan 8, 2003, 9:31:48 PM1/8/03
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In article <Wy4T9.147269$vi4....@post-02.news.easynews.com>,
nos...@nospam.net says...

>
>
>Isn't everyone a VP at a bank? I have had different tellers be VP of
>something or other. I think banks have countless VPs so you feel you are
>dealing with someone important.


Not quite EVERYONE, but I've done work on bank personnel systems (software
development), and, as of maybe ten years ago, 15%-20% was typical.

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Ar Q

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Jan 8, 2003, 9:34:28 PM1/8/03
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"Wyle Coyote" <ieie@ckfdk.w> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes

>
> Mr. Hole <holef...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:3578-3E1...@storefull-2335.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> A telescopic lens from very far away!!! I have some beach front property
> in Florida you might be interested.
> I especially like the one with Brad sitting on the edge of the below
ground
> jacuzzi,
> with one leg dangling in the water and the other cocked up and bent at an
> angle on
> the deck, as he looks DIRECTLY into the "telescopic lens from far far
away".
>
> ©2003 Wyle Coyote
>

He is a heavy smoker. He won't live long. I wish JA had not taken another
year for Friends, it could happen this year.


Sara

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Jan 8, 2003, 10:00:11 PM1/8/03
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Geoduck wrote:

Or it could be that the same people who "researched" Rick Rockwell
worked on this show. Fox has such stellar researchers!

Wayne

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Jan 8, 2003, 10:44:44 PM1/8/03
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"Stacia" <sta...@world.std.com> wrote in message
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> And I think Fox knew it all along. What better way to get free ratings
> than to get someone with a sleazy, shady past, and then feign surprise for
> a few weeks. They also surreptitiously get away with saucy stuff they'd
> not get away with on the network, and with this particular scenario,
> garner publicity after the series is over.

I think you're right on the money here. The show will only run six or seven
episodes because of the "big giveaway" and then the guy is off the air. Fox
doesn't have any money invested in the show going the long run. So the more
dirt and scandal that's smeared around about the show while they're running,
the happier they are. I'm sure it was the Fox publicists who leaked the
underwear model pictures after the story broke. They're riding the wave and
cashing in every angle they can.

I saw the guy on one of the telemagazines and my first reaction was "wannabe
actor." He has the same goofy mannerisms and forced delivery as 500,000
other woefully untalented prettyboy "actors" who you see all over LA with
headshots under their gym-pumped arms. They'll do virtually anything to get
that big break.

Fox is putting another show on next week that, no joke, has midgets and
dwarfs playing tug of war with an elephant. And this is the same network
with "Celebrity Boxing" where they put two has-beens in the ring so they'll
punch each other in the tits.

There is no depth too low for Fox to stoop.


Miroslaw

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Jan 9, 2003, 12:27:24 AM1/9/03
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And you're all buying it and watching it, or at least feel compelled to
comment on it.

There is no limit to the sactimony and pomposity to which the contributors
of this newsgroup will abide. Yours truly included.

Love,
Mirek, proud top poster

"Wayne" <bozob...@bozocrush.org> henceforth opined:
>
> "Stacia" <sta...@world.std.com> thus spake:

Lamia

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Jan 9, 2003, 3:23:39 PM1/9/03
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I knew there was something about this guy that was rotten. Am I the
only one who thinks that it looks like he's had his eyes done?

AngrieWoman

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Jan 9, 2003, 4:40:18 PM1/9/03
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"Lamia" <la...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> > The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
> > real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
> > gay escort?
> >
> > Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
> > and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
> > show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
> > they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.
> >
> > And today, the letters started arriving at the tabloids and magazines
> > with clippings from back issues of a gay escort rag, published by "The
> > Advocate," with ads featuring "intimate massages" offered by a man who
> > looks exactly like Joe Millionaire with a Dana Point telephone number.
> > (For those who want to try the #, it has now been disconnected.)
...

> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Dame Delia Dampcrotch
>
> I knew there was something about this guy that was rotten. Am I the
> only one who thinks that it looks like he's had his eyes done?

No offense, but is this a legit poster, or is it cattlvr-like?

A


Tina

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Jan 9, 2003, 4:56:05 PM1/9/03
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"Miroslaw" wrote in message ..

> And you're all buying it and watching it, or at least feel compelled to
> comment on it.
>
> There is no limit to the sactimony and pomposity to which the contributors
> of this newsgroup will abide. Yours truly included.
>
> Love,
> Mirek, proud top poster>>

Don't you have some dead baby photos to decipher?

M.L.

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Jan 9, 2003, 9:11:48 PM1/9/03
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There isn't nearly enough ignorant anger in that post to compare with
cattlvr.


Lulu

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Jan 9, 2003, 9:40:55 PM1/9/03
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Dame Delia Dampcrotch wrote:

> A friend inside Fox told me this morning that PAs at the network have
> been sent all over town to buy gay porn magazines to search for other
> ads with pictures that look like Joe. Why? If the story goes wide, the
> network wants to be prepared.

I can hardly wait to see the major Spin Control they have to come up
with in order to explain why suddenly tons of FOX employees are
canvassing the city and buying up all the gay porn in town, en masse?


-Lu

Robot 16j2

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Jan 9, 2003, 10:48:53 PM1/9/03
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"Wayne" <bozob...@bozocrush.org> wrote in message news:<Me6T9.863$Dq.7...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

> I saw the guy on one of the telemagazines and my first reaction was "wannabe
> actor." He has the same goofy mannerisms and forced delivery as 500,000
> other woefully untalented prettyboy "actors" who you see all over LA with
> headshots under their gym-pumped arms.

An article in yesterday's USA Today said he had a small reoccuring
part on 'Days of Our Lives' a couple years back. When the reporter
asked him if he was hoping to get a part on a regular series, he
answered 'of course'.

If he's a construction worker I'm Tinkerbell.

Susan B.

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Jan 9, 2003, 11:25:43 PM1/9/03
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Lol. I thought Joe Millionaire was a reality show, or is it
really?!?!? I never did like Who wants to be a Millionaire, but I did
like the original Who wants to Marry a Millionaire.

You know. That reminds of how all the reality shows are becoming
sexier - anything goes - yes nudity - like High School Reunion. I bet
the Internet is going to flood with xxx reality game shows where they
actually have sex in orgies. Television is not too far behind!

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abrahammy

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Jan 10, 2003, 8:44:38 AM1/10/03
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This may be entirely fabricated, but it certainly does lend itself to an
amusing twist, which loses no humor for being merely in theory:

The poor construction worker hired to fool women into thinking he was rich
was also fooling the producers into thinking he was a poor construction
worker.

I'd call that justice.


dorian.bl...@nospam.sbcglobal.net

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Jan 10, 2003, 11:34:53 AM1/10/03
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"Wyle Coyote" <ieie@ckfdk.w> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes

> Lamia <la...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:c1c18851.03010...@posting.google.com...
> What do you mean rotten? What's so rotten about screwing half of the
> boys in Hollywood to become a star?
>
Well said, J-Lo... well said.


dorian.bl...@nospam.sbcglobal.net

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Jan 10, 2003, 11:37:45 AM1/10/03
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"Susan B." <sbave...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Lol. I thought Joe Millionaire was a reality show, or is it
> really?!?!? I never did like Who wants to be a Millionaire, but I did
> like the original Who wants to Marry a Millionaire.
>
> You know. That reminds of how all the reality shows are becoming
> sexier - anything goes - yes nudity - like High School Reunion. I bet
> the Internet is going to flood with xxx reality game shows where they
> actually have sex in orgies. Television is not too far behind!

Susan, have you tuned into that dating game show called "The Fifth Wheel"?
Anything goes has already been done. I'm hoping like hell my daughter isn't
watching this stuff and thinking "Hmmm.... so that's how you need to act
during a date to be cool." Well, I'm hoping I never have to find out
anyway.


David Wilts

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Jan 10, 2003, 1:29:45 PM1/10/03
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The biggest shame is that Alex Mcloud is involved - I loved her on Trading
Spaces -
Beleive me if Joe was a rent boy it will get out, more than likely if there
is any thing to that, a rent boy probably used the photos of Joe from the
California Muscle catalog in his ad (rather than have to pay for
professional photography, you just go through obscure catalogs and pick the
guy you kind of look like)

I'm willing to bet that Joe does have money. I said that on the first show
to my roomate, I am betting he will pick one (the school teacher) and do the
big reveal that he is poor, she will still love him, and then the bigger
reveal -he isn't poor - but could never find a woman to love him for
him -yadda yadda yadda.

Since it is not a gameshow they don't have to abide by any rules, and given
the amount of publicity ..marry a millionaire" got even with the scandal..I
doubt they really care if he bionks men or not.

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Lamia

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Jan 10, 2003, 4:37:35 PM1/10/03
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> No offense, but is this a legit poster, or is it cattlvr-like?
>
> A

Umm, I don't know what you're talking about? I'm not who you think I
am. Please don't confuse me with whoever it is you're talking about. I
am LEGIT! :)
Again, I still think it looks like he's had his eyes done.

P.J. Gladnick

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Jan 10, 2003, 5:19:59 PM1/10/03
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>
> If he's a construction worker I'm Tinkerbell.

Because of the Smoking Gun photos, he's already had his Peter Panned.


M.L.

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Jan 10, 2003, 5:28:39 PM1/10/03
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> Beleive me if Joe was a rent boy it will get out, more than likely if
there
> is any thing to that, a rent boy probably used the photos of Joe from the
> California Muscle catalog in his ad (rather than have to pay for
> professional photography, you just go through obscure catalogs and pick
the
> guy you kind of look like)

That doesn't make sense. The guys who contacted the tabloids didn't claim to
just see the ad, they saw him in person. And unless a bunch of guys got
together to conspire against him for some reason, it seems unlikely that so
many different men having the same story are lying.


AngrieWoman

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Jan 10, 2003, 9:30:41 PM1/10/03
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"Lamia" <la...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Usually, scoop posted by Dame has a source at the top (like Variety or
something) but this post just gave a story, with nothing really tangible.
That's why I wondered if it was real gossip, or something that somebody just
made up and posted.

Either way, it's pretty good! I just wondered which disclaimer to add when I
forward it to my friends :)

And search Google for Cattlvr if you're bored sometime. The first time I saw
one of those posts, I read about 3/4 of it before I figured out it was all
fiction.

A


William December Starr

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Jan 11, 2003, 3:51:22 AM1/11/03
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In article <v1pnfso...@corp.supernews.com>,

someone using the "x-no-archive" protocol said:

> A telescopic lens from very far away!!! I have some beach front
> property in Florida you might be interested. I especially like the
> one with Brad sitting on the edge of the below ground jacuzzi, with
> one leg dangling in the water and the other cocked up and bent at
> an angle on the deck, as he looks DIRECTLY into the "telescopic
> lens from far far away".

It's possible. Shoot off enough frames and you might get one where,
by chance, the subject's looking right in your direction.

-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>

Goya Kod

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Jan 12, 2003, 3:00:18 PM1/12/03
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On 8 Jan 2003 12:50:46 -0800, dame_...@hotmail.com (Dame Delia
Dampcrotch) wrote:

>The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
>real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
>gay escort?
>
>Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
>and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
>show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
>they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.

Dude, I went to high school with Evan Marriott and he was the biggest
dufus. Yes, I was an even bigger dufus, but he was no, like, ladies
man or anything. At least not that I remember. It's just too wild that
all this has happened. Who'd a thunk it.

Goya Kod

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> On 8 Jan 2003 12:50:46 -0800, dame_...@hotmail.com (Dame Delia
> Dampcrotch) wrote:
>
> >The hot story flying around Hollywood today is about Joe Millionaire's
> >real job: is he a construction worker or an underwear model or... a
> >gay escort?
> >
> >Many of the print and broadcast tabloids, as well as "People Magazine"
> >and "Entertainment Weekly," have been flooded with calls since the
> >show premiered on Monday from gay men on the West Coast who say
> >they've retained Joe's services as a male prostitute.
>
> Dude, I went to high school with Evan Marriott and he was the biggest
> dufus. Yes, I was an even bigger dufus, but he was no, like, ladies
> man or anything. At least not that I remember. It's just too wild that
> all this has happened. Who'd a thunk it.
>
> Goya Kod
>


Please share more stories!

Parterrebox

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Jan 8, 2003, 4:11:31 PM1/8/03
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This sounds like the answer to Michael Musto's BI about the "sugar daddy."

DNA409

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>And you're all buying it and watching it, or at least feel compelled to
comment on it.
There is no limit to the sactimony and pomposity to which the contributors
of this newsgroup will abide. Yours truly included.>

Exactly! Me included!


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Rthrquiet

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Jan 8, 2003, 8:30:17 PM1/8/03
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geo...@webave.com (Geoduck) posted:

>Unless it's all part of the deliberate show publicity. *That* I could
>believe.

I have no doubt that's the way they'll try to spin it, regardless.

Michael

DNA409

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Jan 9, 2003, 1:32:09 AM1/9/03
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>I will say this, Joe Millionaire comes off as being dumb as dirt.<

Well, he comes off to me as being really cocky (after watching all the ET,
Access Hollywood, etc. coverage yesterday). And not in a fun, cute way. He
reminded me of a high school jock-bully.

Meganet777

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Jan 10, 2003, 12:50:59 AM1/10/03
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>Subject: Is "Joe Millionaire" a Gay Escort?
>From: dame_...@hotmail.com

we caN only hope....If u catch me watching
this drivel smack me upside the head

Terryo

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Jan 13, 2003, 6:20:50 PM1/13/03
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dna...@aol.com (DNA409) wrote in message news:<20030109013209...@mb-ck.aol.com>...

> >I will say this, Joe Millionaire comes off as being dumb as dirt.<
>
> Well, he comes off to me as being really cocky


...certainly an asset for a gay escort....


TerryO~...from what I've heard....

Douggonitt

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Jan 14, 2003, 5:14:17 PM1/14/03
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What I'm wondering is why would anyone wanting to make a living either
as a gay escort or an actor/model want to live way out of the loop in
conservative Orange County? Seems like he'd get more business on both
fronts living a little closer to West Hollywood!

Guy Bannis

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Jan 14, 2003, 5:50:43 PM1/14/03
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In article <ff2028b3.03011...@posting.google.com>,
dougg...@earthlink.net (Douggonitt) wrote:

Perhaps a larger customer base in the conservative Orange County, where
secrecy is in greater demand and the supply of out, willing gay sex
partners is smaller. Think Huffington.

Wayne

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Jan 14, 2003, 8:19:09 PM1/14/03
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"Douggonitt" <dougg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ff2028b3.03011...@posting.google.com...

> What I'm wondering is why would anyone wanting to make a living either
> as a gay escort or an actor/model want to live way out of the loop in
> conservative Orange County?

There are certainly enclaves of buttoned up conservos in OC, it's certainly
not all that way. Laguna Beach and surrounding environs has a big gay
population.

A buddy of mine got married in Laguna and the reception was held at a big
Ritz Carlton hotel there. In the next ballroom, a reception was underway for
a wedding between two gay men. The guests were about 80 percent gay men.
They all looked like they were having a very good time, dancing together
cheek to cheek, etc.


parterre box

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Jan 14, 2003, 11:16:19 PM1/14/03
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> What I'm wondering is why would anyone wanting to make a living either
> as a gay escort or an actor/model want to live way out of the loop in
> conservative Orange County? Seems like he'd get more business on both
> fronts living a little closer to West Hollywood!

Another factor is that most clients don't want a "gay" man; their
fantasy is for someone masculine and "straight-acting" which means the
farther a hustler lives out the standard gay milieu, the more
attractive he is.

Besides, if the escort is doing out calls, it doesn't really matter
where he lives so long as he has a car and is ready to get out the
door on five minutes' notice. If a client really wants a guy, he's not
going to change his mind when the fantasy says, "I can be there in 45
minutes."

A Yap

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Jan 15, 2003, 12:18:22 AM1/15/03
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Check out WWW.upw.com for his photo

Messalina

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Jan 15, 2003, 12:13:38 PM1/15/03
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A Yap <gu...@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:<3E24EF1C...@adelphia.net>...

> Check out WWW.upw.com for his photo
> Wayne wrote:
> > "Douggonitt" <dougg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:ff2028b3.03011...@posting.google.com...
> >
> >>What I'm wondering is why would anyone wanting to make a living either
> >>as a gay escort or an actor/model want to live way out of the loop in
> >>conservative Orange County?
> >
I'm not sure this is any answer but for some reason tons and tons of
contractors live in Dana Point and neighboring San Clemente.

Incidentally, excepting maybe Newport Beach, the coastal cities of
orange county are not all that conservative.

M.

Francois

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Jan 15, 2003, 5:07:41 PM1/15/03
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> > What I'm wondering is why would anyone wanting to make a living either
> > as a gay escort or an actor/model want to live way out of the loop in
> > conservative Orange County?

Well, there'd be a lot less competition out there in the escort
business than in West Hollywood!

And, realize that a BIG percentage of those who hire "escorts" are
Closet Cases, often/usually married men who would never dream of
setting foot in a "gay" establishment nor even in self-identifying as
gay, but they'll call up Dial-a-Dick and order a dude they know
they'll never have to see again. I bet escort services (both straight
AND gay) thrive a lot more in "uptight", Republican enclaves than they
do in "anything goes" areas like SFO, since the more liberal/open an
area is, the LESS likely you'd be to NEED to hire an escort.


Francois

Bigolhomo

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Jan 15, 2003, 6:29:54 PM1/15/03
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On 14 Jan 2003 14:14:17 -0800, dougg...@earthlink.net (Douggonitt)
wrote:

Do you know how easy it is to get free sex in West Hollywood? I mean
it's pretty easy to do everywhere, but especially out there. I'm sure
there are a lot of conservative married men in Orange County who like
a little dick every now and then but would never dream of heading up
to WeHo.
______

www.FirstTimeGuys.com

Not the same old porn boys!

kth...@hotmail.com

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Jan 15, 2003, 9:16:59 PM1/15/03
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sec...@duelingoak.com (Messalina) wrote in message news:<7111e10e.03011...@posting.google.com>...

Well, Laguna Beach has a lot of gays, if that is what you are
referring to. I have a few very wealthy gay neighbors and I'm in
Newport Coast, but as far as anyone getting away with having an escort
service, our law enforcement here is known to be really tough.
We do have a lot of construction work going on around here, so there
should be plenty of jobs of that kind.

Douggonitt

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Jan 16, 2003, 1:24:58 PM1/16/03
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It's possible that someone could make a good living as an escort in
Orange County, but why would someone moving out to LA choose to move
there over the Hollywood area? When I lived out there, if you lived
anywhere beyond the acceptable perimeters (Venice to the SW,
Silverlake to the SE, Pasadena to the NE, Reseda to the NW), you were
kind of out of the "loop" as far as the acting community was
concerned. Commuting gets really old really quick in LA, even if
you're just in Glendale! Dana Point takes a lot longer than 45 minutes
to get to from the Hollywood area, especially when you're considering
the traffic flow on the 5, 405 and Orange Crush. I'm guessing that
something else led him to pick Orange County. Maybe a friend or
contact. Another thing, construction work is unionized out there, and
they make a lot more than $19,000. It's more like $40,000, at least.

Ubiquitous

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Jan 16, 2003, 2:56:58 PM1/16/03
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This sounds a lot like wishful thinking on a lot of gay men's part.

--
ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.

lazarus

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Jan 16, 2003, 4:16:13 PM1/16/03
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:09:31 GMT, Screaming Peccary
<Screa...@badlands.state> wrote:

>You are not aware that every dick-licker in politics; federal, state or
>political subdivision there of, is a democrap?

Yes, the Republicans go more for pederasty and child molestation.

--

lazarus

"Therefore, my Harry, Be it thy course to busy giddy minds with
foreign quarrels; that action, hence borne out, may waste the memory
of the former days." -- King Henry IV, Part ii Act 4, Scene 5

Wayne

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Jan 16, 2003, 4:41:51 PM1/16/03
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"Douggonitt" <dougg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ff2028b3.0301...@posting.google.com...

> When I lived out there, if you lived
> anywhere beyond the acceptable perimeters (Venice to the SW,
> Silverlake to the SE, Pasadena to the NE, Reseda to the NW), you were
> kind of out of the "loop" as far as the acting community was
> concerned

Reseda? RESEDA!?! Are you joking? Reseda ain't nothing but strip malls and
body shops.

Try Malibu. You're still in the loop as long as you're inside Malibu or
Malibu Canyon to the NW.


Spangliekins

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Jan 17, 2003, 12:40:30 AM1/17/03
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kth...@hotmail.com (kth...@hotmail.com) wrote in message news:<67cd8736.03011...@posting.google.com>...


Isn't it a gated community? I'm just wondering, because if it was and
there was somebody to monitor the gates, like in some of the gated
communities around where I live, they'd notice too many people coming
in and going out of one particular residence. That way there wouldn't
ever be a snowball's chance in Hell of running an Escort Service,
selling drugs from inside your house, or any other riff-raff.

Depends on if it's old $$$ or new $$$, but most old $$$ around here is
in enclosed, gated communities. Where I live a lot of the older, rich
gay couples live in large condos directly on the water, though, and
not in large mansions.

JN

Douggonitt

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Jan 17, 2003, 1:06:01 AM1/17/03
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> Reseda? RESEDA!?! Are you joking? Reseda ain't nothing but strip malls and
> body shops.

Whoa! Calm down, Sparky! I wasn't suggesting Reseda as being a hip,
swingin' place to live! I was giving an approximate northwestern
border to the actor grid, there. If you prefer, you could use the 405
and Victory for the approximate point in question. Kind of Van
Nuysish. Malibu's only do-able if you're Larry Hagman, Nick Nolte, or
you have a trust fund. A newcomer to LA with limited resources would
be more likely to try North Hollywood or parts of Hollywood.

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