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Paul

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Dec 10, 2003, 3:43:49 AM12/10/03
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There doesn't seem to be too much info about this pvr's HDD upgradability
out on the net, so i thought i'd contribute what i've found out tonight...

It seems that the 3.5" 40GB seagate supplied is completly replaceable. I had
a spare 60GB IBM Deathstar and stuck it in, it worked straight away without
any need for manual formatting. The HDD previously had redhat on it and the
freeview box didn't seem to warn that the HDD contained data, it just showed
up straight away in the Menu->Record->HDD Control bit as 59,041MB. Nice.
When i took apart the box i noticed that the original HDD was very very hot,
the box had only been on for about half an hour playing back eastenders. So
hot that the HDD cable had gone all "flimsy" :). The HDD cable is an old
chunkier style ATA33 cable. I'm not sure if this hints that it is limited by
ATA to 137GB like the xbox, i don't have a 160GB+ hdd to try it with.

I just stuck the original pvr hdd into my PC as a secondary drive just out
of curiosity really, kind of a long shot wondering if windows would be able
to read anything but no luck, it shows up as 2 partitions, one 256MB and one
that fills the rest of the 40GB drive but both are unreadable.

Hope someone finds this semi-useful!

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Paul
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ADE

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Dec 10, 2003, 5:24:09 AM12/10/03
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This is just what i wanted to hear!

as ive got a idtv, i dont need of want a twin tuner and would rather have
the humax
due to 1) larger hard drive 2)cheaper

but knowing i can change the hd for someting like a 100gb at a resonablie
price is good news

all i got to do now is find a local retailer which sells it!
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Paul

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Dec 10, 2003, 5:29:09 AM12/10/03
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"ADE" <BA...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
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> This is just what i wanted to hear
> as ive got a idtv, i dont need of want a twin tuner and would rather have
> the humax
> due to 1) larger hard drive 2)cheaper
> but knowing i can change the hd for someting like a 100gb at a resonablie
> price is good news

If you're planning on ordering one from QED, when i looked they had a 14day
wait for delivery. Dabs.com are doing them for about £154ish (+vat &
delivery) delivered the next day.

Philip Stokes

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Dec 10, 2003, 11:10:05 AM12/10/03
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In message <107105222...@dyke.uk.clara.net>, on Wed, 10 Dec 2003,
Paul <paulM...@maddox.co.uk> writes

>"ADE" <BA...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
>news:br6s89$d76$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> This is just what i wanted to hear
>> as ive got a idtv, i dont need of want a twin tuner and would rather have
>> the humax
>> due to 1) larger hard drive 2)cheaper
>> but knowing i can change the hd for someting like a 100gb at a resonablie
>> price is good news
>
>If you're planning on ordering one from QED, when i looked they had a 14day
>wait for delivery. Dabs.com are doing them for about £154ish (+vat &
>delivery) delivered the next day.

Just ordered one from QED this morning. They've emailed me to say it's
being delivered by courier tomorrow.
--
Phil

Philip Stokes

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Dec 10, 2003, 11:14:11 AM12/10/03
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In message <10710459...@ersa.uk.clara.net>, on Wed, 10 Dec 2003,
Paul <paulM...@maddox.co.uk> writes

>There doesn't seem to be too much info about this pvr's HDD upgradability
>out on the net, so i thought i'd contribute what i've found out tonight...

http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/support/faq.asp

>It seems that the 3.5" 40GB seagate supplied is completly replaceable. I had
>a spare 60GB IBM Deathstar and stuck it in, it worked straight away without
>any need for manual formatting.

That's good news, as according to Humax:

Can I upgrade my HDD to 80, 120, or 160 GB?

Not at the current time, the PVR-8000T only supports 40 GB; this is
planned to be extended in a future software upgrade. We recommend that
you contact your dealer or a Humax Service Centre to have you HDD
upgraded.

What File System does the PVR-8000T use?

The HDD uses a Humax modified File System that is not compatible with a
PC

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Phil

Paul

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Dec 10, 2003, 11:31:44 AM12/10/03
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"Philip Stokes" <ne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> That's good news, as according to Humax:
> Can I upgrade my HDD to 80, 120, or 160 GB?
>
> Not at the current time, the PVR-8000T only supports 40 GB; this is
> planned to be extended in a future software upgrade. We recommend that
> you contact your dealer or a Humax Service Centre to have you HDD
> upgraded.

Yep wierd, maybe the FAQ was written a while back and/or the latest boxes to
be shipped have a newer version of the firmware on them.
Definatly does work though!

>What File System does the PVR-8000T use?
>The HDD uses a Humax modified File System that is not compatible with a
>PC

It would be great if someone could reverse engineer this "modified file
system", so files could be ripped to a PC.
Maybe in time this will happen :)

anonymouse

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Dec 10, 2003, 11:48:53 AM12/10/03
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Philip Stokes wrote:
<snipped>

> In message <10710459...@ersa.uk.clara.net>, on Wed, 10 Dec 2003,
> Paul <paulM...@maddox.co.uk> writes
>
>> There doesn't seem to be too much info about this pvr's HDD upgradability
>> out on the net, so i thought i'd contribute what i've found out
>> tonight...
>
>
> http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/support/faq.asp
>
>> It seems that the 3.5" 40GB seagate supplied is completly replaceable.
>> I had
>> a spare 60GB IBM Deathstar and stuck it in, it worked straight away
>> without
>> any need for manual formatting.
>

Nothing personal Paul, but an IBM "Deathstar" disk - what a stupid name.

Many years ago, I worked for a large multinational company. Anything
that came from America always had a silly, macho name. Something like
MegaDeathKiller or FireBlaster would have been considered ideal. Stuff
from the UK tended to be named after animals or plants, and things from
France were given literary or mythological names, or just general girls'
names.

I always thought that this said a great deal about the cultures concerned.

Paul

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Dec 10, 2003, 11:54:02 AM12/10/03
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> Nothing personal Paul, but an IBM "Deathstar" disk - what a stupid
> name.
>
> Many years ago, I worked for a large multinational company. Anything
> that came from America always had a silly, macho name. Something like
> MegaDeathKiller or FireBlaster would have been considered ideal. Stuff
> from the UK tended to be named after animals or plants, and things
> from France were given literary or mythological names, or just
> general girls' names.
>
> I always thought that this said a great deal about the cultures
> concerned.


IBM *Deskstar* is the proper disk but it is famous for being the most
unreliable type of hard disk EVER! Our work alone has had so many faults
with these drives it is unbelivable. Therefore most people i know use the
term *Deathstar* because they always die.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=IBM+Deathstar&sa=N&tab=wg&meta=

anonymouse

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Dec 10, 2003, 12:22:24 PM12/10/03
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Paul wrote:

Oh dear - shows how much I know about PCs. ;-)

One minute searching the IBM website found a technology called "Chipkill
(tm)", so I'm standing by the point. ;-) ;-).

Enjoy your PVR!


ChrisM

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Dec 10, 2003, 12:38:17 PM12/10/03
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> Nothing personal Paul, but an IBM "Deathstar" disk - what a stupid
> name.
>
> Many years ago, I worked for a large multinational company. Anything
> that came from America always had a silly, macho name. Something like
> MegaDeathKiller or FireBlaster would have been considered ideal. Stuff
> from the UK tended to be named after animals or plants, and things
> from France were given literary or mythological names, or just
> general girls' names.
>
> I always thought that this said a great deal about the cultures
> concerned.

there actually called deskstar :)


flaninacupboard

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Dec 21, 2003, 7:58:09 AM12/21/03
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glad to see someone isn't afraid of geting their hands dirty! any chance of
a some pics inside the machine? what version of windows do you use? im
thinking maybe it's an NTFS partition, or possibly a linux partition. did
you try using both drives in there at once?

i've just bought one of these boxes myself from dabs, hoping it'll arrive
before christmas. i'll have a muck about with it after i've checked it works
ok, a friend of mine has a 120gig drive that i'll test :)


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