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ntaylor

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Feb 14, 2001, 11:05:19 AM2/14/01
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Is it Bogy or Bogey?
Anyway, does anybody have the words
that go with the tune?

Mark Barratt

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Feb 14, 2001, 11:23:44 AM2/14/01
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"ntaylor" <tay...@htan.org> wrote in message
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> Is it Bogy or Bogey?
> Anyway, does anybody have the words
> that go with the tune?

Well, there's:

Hitler has only got one ball
Goering has two, but they're quite small
Himmler has something sim'lar
And poor old Goebells
Has no balls at all.

(Prospective respondents are referred to Godwin's law)
Regards
Mark Barratt

Donna Richoux

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Feb 14, 2001, 11:35:16 AM2/14/01
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ntaylor <tay...@htan.org> wrote:

> Is it Bogy or Bogey?

Bogey

> Anyway, does anybody have the words
> that go with the tune?

Neither the original march (approx. 1915) nor the version arranged for
the "River Kwai" movie (approx. 1957) have words. I suppose I have to
add, "to the best of my knowledge," because sometimes music was
published with words forgotten long since. But I did spend a fair amount
of time researching the history of this tune and never saw any official
words.

However, the tune has been used for any number of unofficial words. Are
you thinking of the vomit version, the balls version, or other?

--
Best --- Donna Richoux

M. Lyle

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Feb 14, 2001, 12:08:44 PM2/14/01
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>===== Original Message From tr...@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux) =====
The vomit version? Do tell.

My version of the balls one pronounces Goebbels "Go-balls" for euphony.

There's also one which sets words to the intro, but I know only the first
bit:

"We are the night shite shifters, shi-ifti-ing shi-ite by-y night
/
And shouting/
'Bollocks!/
They make a damned good stew!/
Bollocks!/
And the same to you!'/"

*Imperial Echoes* (I think it is) has:
"Twenty-one!
Never been done!
Queen of all the fairies!
Oh what a pity she's only one titty ..."

*Cock o' the North* (is it?) goes:
"Lady Mary had a canary/
up the leg of her drawers./
When she farted,it departed/
down the leg of her drawers."

Blushing prettily,
Mike.

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Feb 14, 2001, 1:00:45 PM2/14/01
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"Donna Richoux" <tr...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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> ntaylor <tay...@htan.org> wrote:

> Neither the original march (approx. 1915) nor the version arranged for
> the "River Kwai" movie (approx. 1957) have

Has.

> words. I suppose I have to
> add, "to the best of my knowledge," because sometimes music was
> published with words forgotten long since. But I did spend a fair amount
> of time researching the history of this tune and never saw any official
> words.
>
> However, the tune has been used for any number of unofficial words. Are
> you thinking of the vomit version, the balls version, or other?

(We) went to
the International
House of
Pancakes to eat one night
But we
[Straight to second ending:]
Found all they had there
Was pizza, so we
Had pizza
Instead

[Minor section:]
So we ate until we had had our fill
And wash'd dishes to pay the bill
But we kept breaking them all until
The cook threw us out in the chill
[Dominant of relative major:] So

[D.C. ad nauseam]

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A...@GallerySystems.com - (510) 652-8950, ext. 246


Mike Barnes

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Feb 14, 2001, 1:27:52 PM2/14/01
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In alt.usage.english, ntaylor <tay...@htan.org> wrote

>Is it Bogy or Bogey?
>Anyway, does anybody have the words
>that go with the tune?

We've done this before. Hopefully Google will get the Usenet archive up
and running soon so that we can all see it.

--
Mike Barnes

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Feb 14, 2001, 1:26:12 PM2/14/01
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"M. Lyle" <ml...@MailAndNews.com> writes:

> >However, the tune has been used for any number of unofficial words. Are
> >you thinking of the vomit version, the balls version, or other?
>
> The vomit version? Do tell.

The version I recall is

Comet--it makes your lips turn green.
Comet--it tastes like Listerine.
Comet--it makes you vomit
So drink some comet and vomit today.

This was back in the '70s when Comet (a brand of cleanser) used the
Col. Bogey in their commercials. _Greasy Grimy Gopher Guts_ has a few
versions of both this and the Hitler one.

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Rudolf Schwarzkopf-Zskai

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Feb 14, 2001, 2:13:53 PM2/14/01
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Mark Barratt :

: Hitler has only got one ball


: Goering has two, but they're quite small
: Himmler has something sim'lar
: And poor old Goebells
: Has no balls at all.

O, that's interesting; your version is far more historically sophisticated
than the one I remember:

Adolf Itler'z'only got one ball
The uvver'z'in the Albert 'All
His Muvver, she ate the uvver
And now ain't no balls at all.

Trans:
(Herr Adolf Hitler has only got one ball
The other resides in the Albert Hall
His mother, she ate the other
And now he's comepletely ball-less in Gaza.)

: (Prospective respondents are referred to Godwin's law)

What is Godwin's Law?
What misfortune will become me for having posted in ignorance of the
implications?

--
rud...@ntlworld.com - Nottingham UK - www.lizardnet.freeserve.co.uk

R Fontana

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Feb 14, 2001, 3:47:58 PM2/14/01
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On 14 Feb 2001, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:

> "M. Lyle" <ml...@MailAndNews.com> writes:
>
> > >However, the tune has been used for any number of unofficial words. Are
> > >you thinking of the vomit version, the balls version, or other?
> >
> > The vomit version? Do tell.
>
> The version I recall is
>
> Comet--it makes your lips turn green.
> Comet--it tastes like Listerine.
> Comet--it makes you vomit
> So drink some comet and vomit today.

The version I knew, also from the '70s (NYC), was slightly different:

Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
Comes--it makes you vomit
So drink* some Comet and vomit today.

*Or possibly "try"; I don't remember.


Alec "Skitt" P.

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Feb 14, 2001, 3:55:30 PM2/14/01
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"R Fontana" <re...@columbia.edu> wrote in message
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I would say "try" or "eat", as Comet used to come only in powder form.
--
Skitt (in SF Bay Area) http://i.am/skitt/
I speak English well -- I learn it from a book!
-- Manuel of "Fawlty Towers" (he's from Barcelona).

Earle D Jones

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Feb 14, 2001, 4:01:06 PM2/14/01
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In article <1eotxhf.u3mhbh15szw6lN%tr...@euronet.nl>, tr...@euronet.nl
(Donna Richoux) wrote:

*
I can only recall the "horseshit" version:

Horseshit -- it makes the grass grow green.
Horseshit -- it makes a good Marine.

Anyone remember the rest?

earle
*

Mike Oliver

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Feb 14, 2001, 4:08:58 PM2/14/01
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"Alec \"Skitt\" P." wrote:
>
> "R Fontana" <re...@columbia.edu> wrote in message

>> Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
>> Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
>> Comes--it makes you vomit
>> So drink* some Comet and vomit today.
>>
>> *Or possibly "try"; I don't remember.
>
> I would say "try" or "eat", as Comet used to come only in powder form.

This rang a bell in my brain. There was a madrigal by Weelkes
which I heard in a fine collection by the King's Singers
which went as follows:

Come, sirrah Jack, ho
Fill some tobacco
Bring a wire and some fire

Haste away, quick I say!
Do not stay! Shun delay!
For I drank none good today

Does anyone care to speculate on how, or why, one
might "drink" tobacco?

R Fontana

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Feb 14, 2001, 4:58:42 PM2/14/01
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Alec "Skitt" P. wrote:

>
> "R Fontana" <re...@columbia.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.10.101021...@aloha.cc.columbia.edu...
> > On 14 Feb 2001, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> >
> > > "M. Lyle" <ml...@MailAndNews.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > >However, the tune has been used for any number of unofficial words.
> Are
> > > > >you thinking of the vomit version, the balls version, or other?
> > > >
> > > > The vomit version? Do tell.
> > >
> > > The version I recall is
> > >
> > > Comet--it makes your lips turn green.
> > > Comet--it tastes like Listerine.
> > > Comet--it makes you vomit
> > > So drink some comet and vomit today.
> >
> > The version I knew, also from the '70s (NYC), was slightly different:
> >
> > Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
> > Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
> > Comes--it makes you vomit
> > So drink* some Comet and vomit today.
> >
> > *Or possibly "try"; I don't remember.
>
> I would say "try" or "eat", as Comet used to come only in powder form.

Yes. Though I think most people think of gasoline as, in its most
familiar form, a liquid.


Evan Kirshenbaum

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Feb 14, 2001, 5:27:38 PM2/14/01
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"Alec \"Skitt\" P." <sk...@earthlink.net> writes:

> "R Fontana" <re...@columbia.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.10.101021...@aloha.cc.columbia.edu...
> > On 14 Feb 2001, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> > > The version I recall is
> > >
> > > Comet--it makes your lips turn green.
> > > Comet--it tastes like Listerine.
> > > Comet--it makes you vomit
> > > So drink some comet and vomit today.
> >
> > The version I knew, also from the '70s (NYC), was slightly different:
> >
> > Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
> > Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
> > Comes--it makes you vomit
> > So drink* some Comet and vomit today.
> >
> > *Or possibly "try"; I don't remember.
>
> I would say "try" or "eat", as Comet used to come only in powder form.

Yeah, but who said kids rhymes should make sense?

Having changed venues, I now have my copy of GGGG handy. They list
several versions in which the color changing body part is variously
the teeth, mouth, eyes, lips, and dick. Usually the color is green
(rhyming with listerine, gasoline, or vaseline), but in one case it's
red (rhyming with "makes you wet your bed"). It either "makes you
vomit" or "tastes like vomit", and the directive is either "eat",
"buy", or "get". There was also a version with a Comet rival, Ajax:

Ajax, it makes your mouth turn blue.
Ajax, it tastes like Elmers Glue
Ajax, will make you pay tax,
So buy some Ajax, and pay tax, today.

cited from the New York City area between 1980 and 1983. The Comet
version was cited back to the late '50s.

They only have one version for the "Hitler" parody, but note that the
piece "has been the tune for many a World War II children's parody
both in England and America". They go on to say that

(The "Colone Bogey" of the title is not a military man, but a golf
term for an imaginary partner!)

which I had not previously known.

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Peter Moylan

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Feb 14, 2001, 8:47:14 PM2/14/01
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R Fontana <re...@columbia.edu> wrote:

>The version I knew, also from the '70s (NYC), was slightly different:
>
> Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
> Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
> Comes--it makes you vomit
> So drink* some Comet and vomit today.

When I first heard this (1979) I had just arrived in California from
Australia. We still had some Comet toothpaste (an Australian
brand) in the bathroom. It took me several weeks more to
discover that American Comet wasn't toothpaste.

--
Peter Moylan pe...@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

khann

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Feb 15, 2001, 7:02:10 AM2/15/01
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Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>
> [...]

> They only have one version for the "Hitler" parody, but note that the
> piece "has been the tune for many a World War II children's parody
> both in England and America". They go on to say that
>
> (The "Colone Bogey" of the title is not a military man, but a golf
> term for an imaginary partner!)
>
> which I had not previously known.
>

While this is true about the golf term, which dates from the 1890s,
Richard Graves offers a different view about its connection to the title
of the march.
At http://www.mvdaily.com/articles/1999/04/bogey.htm Graves states that
Col Bogey was the nickname of a real colonel whom F.J. Ricketts (the
composer of the Col Bogey March) had known when stationed at Fort George
prior to WWI. Graves alleges that the colonel preferred to whistle a
descending minor third instead of shouting 'Fore!', and that Ricketts
incorporated this oddity into the march.

KHann

M. Lyle

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Feb 15, 2001, 7:58:28 AM2/15/01
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>===== Original Message From oli...@math.ucla.edu =====

>"Alec \"Skitt\" P." wrote:
>>
>> "R Fontana" <re...@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>>> Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
>>> Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
>>> Comes--it makes you vomit
>>> So drink* some Comet and vomit today.
>>>
>>> *Or possibly "try"; I don't remember.
>>
>> I would say "try" or "eat", as Comet used to come only in powder form.
>
>This rang a bell in my brain. There was a madrigal by Weelkes
>which I heard in a fine collection by the King's Singers
>which went as follows:
>
> Come, sirrah Jack, ho
> Fill some tobacco
> Bring a wire and some fire
>
> Haste away, quick I say!
> Do not stay! Shun delay!
> For I drank none good today
>
>Does anyone care to speculate on how, or why, one
>might "drink" tobacco?
>
Why remains a problem; but how is simple: you take a fluid in through your
mouth. In a culture where it was a new idea, and "smoking" already had a
meaning, "drink" might seem the obvious choice. Arabic probably isn't the
only
modern language which still uses the same word for both.

Before anybody mentions that some cultures swallow a liquid infusion of
tobacco, I say that would be a red herring (though not a Spithead pheasant).

Peter Prictoe

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Feb 15, 2001, 8:38:56 AM2/15/01
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Yes we have done this before and I recollect writing that Bogey had
something to do with the small golf course at Stokes Bay Gosport Hants. As
it was my parental home I would like to know the connection. Incidentally
there are lots of other versions of the song-mostly rude.
Peter P
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M. Lyle

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Feb 16, 2001, 7:45:23 AM2/16/01
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>===== Original Message From pe...@totally-official.com =====

>R Fontana <re...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>>The version I knew, also from the '70s (NYC), was slightly different:
>>
>> Comet--it makes your teeth turn green.
>> Comet--it tastes like gasoline.
>> Comes--it makes you vomit
>> So drink* some Comet and vomit today.
>
>When I first heard this (1979) I had just arrived in California from
>Australia. We still had some Comet toothpaste (an Australian
>brand) in the bathroom. It took me several weeks more to
>discover that American Comet wasn't toothpaste.
>
Can you still get Ipana?

Robert Lieblich

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Feb 16, 2001, 2:57:35 PM2/16/01
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Mike Lyle wrote:

[ . . . ]

> Can you still get Ipana?

Not without difficulty, although at this URL:

http://www.dcnevada.com/wpmuseum/mcgill_drug_co_.htm

you'll learn about a drugstore that still has Ipana on the shelves.
By following this URL:

http://www.pg.com/about/news/turkey.htm?rc=-5

you can discover that Procter and Gemble sells Ipana in Turkey. As
luck would have it, there's a fellow in that other usage group (AEU)
who goes by "Opinicus" but who is named Bob <something>, and who,
though American, lives in Turkey. I'm sure that in exchange for a
small fortune he could ship Ipana almost anywhere. If P&G (which,
after all, uses a symbol of Satan as its trademark) can be believed.

It appears that Ipana is no longer manufactured in the US:

http://www.beloitdailynews.com/398/7bus10.htm

I liked the original Pepsi Clear. Dead as the average dodo.

Peter Moylan

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Feb 17, 2001, 7:48:19 PM2/17/01
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M. Lyle wrote:

>Can you still get Ipana?

As far as I know, no. In fact choice seems to have disappeared from
the toothpaste market here. Each time I try to buy a tube of
toothpaste I'm faced by rows and rows of apparently different
kinds, but they're nearly all made by Colgate and there does not
appear to be any way of finding out what's different about each
"variety". I suspect that they're identical apart from the
packaging.

Out of principle, I always search for one of the non-Colgate
brands hidden down in the corner. I suppose if I checked I'd
discover that they were owned by Colgate too.

(For real fun, try searching for toothpaste that doesn't
have mint flavouring added. It's even more difficult than
finding unscented soap.)

Could be worse, I suppose. Once Microsoft takes over the
toothpaste market we'll have to replace all our teeth every
two years.

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N.Mitchum

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Peter Moylan wrote:
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> (For real fun, try searching for toothpaste that doesn't
> have mint flavouring added. It's even more difficult than
> finding unscented soap.)
>.....

Why brush with toothpaste anyway? Except for the rare product
that contain fluoride, they do nothing to make your teeth
healthier and happier. It's friction what does it, not froth.


----NM

Michael West

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Feb 18, 2001, 12:08:07 AM2/18/01
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"Peter Moylan"

> (For real fun, try searching for toothpaste that doesn't
> have mint flavouring added. It's even more difficult than
> finding unscented soap.)

If you'd watch your language, your Mum wouldn't
MAKE you brush your teeth with soap, scented or
otherwise.

MW

Geoff Butler

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Feb 18, 2001, 6:13:56 AM2/18/01
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Peter Moylan <pe...@PJM2.newcastle.edu.au> wrote

>
>Could be worse, I suppose. Once Microsoft takes over the
>toothpaste market we'll have to replace all our teeth every
>two years.

And if they stop working during dinner, all-you-gotta-do-is-just
reinstall the old set.

-ler

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