Rollergames with 5 drop targets?
John Wart, jr
of 3.
Is this a prototype piece that isn't available in production RollerGames?
Does anyone have the assembly for sale?
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Yes... I had a proto that was converted to house the three target a long time
ago
The Korn
> My manual shows an assembley for RollerGames that has 5 drop targets instead
> of 3.
Actually, if you look at your manual carefully you'll note (if your
manual is like mine) that it lists BOTH a 3 drop target assembly _AND_
a 5 drop target assembly.
The assumption I made was that SKATE was originally designed as a drop
target set, just like WAR is on production machines.
> Is this a prototype piece that isn't available in production RollerGames?
Apparently, though I've never seen one equipped this way.
Kirb
the two extra switches.
You might be able to hook it up if the software rev will support it.
Kirb
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>
> My manual shows an assembley for RollerGames that has 5 drop targets instead
> of 3.
>
> Is this a prototype piece that isn't available in production RollerGames?
We have replacement drop target decals available, if anyone needs those-
they come 3/set, but we can make the 5-pc sets if needed.
Details at: http://www.actionpinball.com/pdg.htm
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The Korn
> check the switch matrix- maybe there is still provisions on there for
> the two extra switches.
>
> You might be able to hook it up if the software rev will support it.
Looking at the switch matrix for RG (had to check), it lists each
switch in SKATE as part of a 5-drop set.
Kirb
all three are dropped? The software would see three of the five down
and reset them. Maybe the software will compensate for the 5 bank if
it detects the two lost switches.
You just need to make sure the software REV will still support the 5
bank.
You might be able to get your hands on some proto roms.
Kirb
John Wart, jr
possibly be integrated....
Anyone got some pics of a proto, preferably on the top and the bottom of the
PF around the SKATE targets?
Some protos were also diamondplated :) My NOS wired field wasn't, but is
gonna be before I put it in.
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"The Korn" <the...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Korn
> Hrmm, that would lead me to believe with some work, a set of drops could
> possibly be integrated....
>
> Anyone got some pics of a proto, preferably on the top and the bottom of the
> PF around the SKATE targets?
>
> Some protos were also diamondplated :) My NOS wired field wasn't, but is
> gonna be before I put it in.
I remember there was a DP'd RG at one of the expo auctions a few years
back. It also had standups for SKATE, so you're probably looking at
(MAYBE) only the pure prototypes (and not the "test" machines) having
the drops. That's probably less than ten machines. Good luck. Heh.
What might be more constructive is attempting to retrofit a 5-bank
opto drop from some OTHER game. Can't think of a game with a 5-bank
opto drop set off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will come
to the rescue. :)
(I'm making the blatent assumption that since the 3-bank set uses
optos, that the 5-bank would probably use them too!)
Bill Ung
>"John Wart, jr" <johnw...@johnwartjr.com> wrote in message news:<3c84d892$0$1604$272e...@news.execpc.com>...
>> Hrmm, that would lead me to believe with some work, a set of drops could
>> possibly be integrated....
>>
>> Anyone got some pics of a proto, preferably on the top and the bottom of the
>> PF around the SKATE targets?
>>
>> Some protos were also diamondplated :) My NOS wired field wasn't, but is
>> gonna be before I put it in.
>
>I remember there was a DP'd RG at one of the expo auctions a few years
>back. It also had standups for SKATE, so you're probably looking at
>(MAYBE) only the pure prototypes (and not the "test" machines) having
>the drops. That's probably less than ten machines. Good luck. Heh.
I've seen one or two myself, so I think the DiamondPlated games were
more than just the initial prototype run.
>What might be more constructive is attempting to retrofit a 5-bank
>opto drop from some OTHER game. Can't think of a game with a 5-bank
>opto drop set off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will come
>to the rescue. :)
Sorry, I forgot my cape <g> but ... "Bad Cats" has both a 5-drop
target bank, and a 3-drop-target bank.
>(I'm making the blatent assumption that since the 3-bank set uses
>optos, that the 5-bank would probably use them too!)
I would imagine... :-)
I guess the good news is, you don't need any more switch positions.
Since I can't find a Rollergames manual on-line, I can't verify that
there are any solenoid positions open ... but *maybe* there is, and
that signal still exists in the current software.
Anyone taken a peek at the Rollergames flyer? If those really were
drop-targets at one point, there's a good chance it's pictured on the
flyer.
I guess I'll have to check mine when I get home...
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The Korn
> On 5 Mar 2002 09:57:22 -0800, the...@hotmail.com (The Korn) wrote:
>
> >"John Wart, jr" <johnw...@johnwartjr.com> wrote in message news:<3c84d892$0$1604$272e...@news.execpc.com>...
> >> Hrmm, that would lead me to believe with some work, a set of drops could
> >> possibly be integrated....
> >>
> >> Anyone got some pics of a proto, preferably on the top and the bottom of the
> >> PF around the SKATE targets?
> >>
> >> Some protos were also diamondplated :) My NOS wired field wasn't, but is
> >> gonna be before I put it in.
> >
> >I remember there was a DP'd RG at one of the expo auctions a few years
> >back. It also had standups for SKATE, so you're probably looking at
> >(MAYBE) only the pure prototypes (and not the "test" machines) having
> >the drops. That's probably less than ten machines. Good luck. Heh.
>
> I've seen one or two myself, so I think the DiamondPlated games were
> more than just the initial prototype run.
Mmmm, that's not what I was intending to say. I'm not sure if the one
that I saw for auction was a test or a prototype; I pretty much
assumed it was a test machine, and that the tests were DP'd. (Seemed
to be the pattern at that time.)
> >What might be more constructive is attempting to retrofit a 5-bank
> >opto drop from some OTHER game. Can't think of a game with a 5-bank
> >opto drop set off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will come
> >to the rescue. :)
>
> Sorry, I forgot my cape <g> but ... "Bad Cats" has both a 5-drop
> target bank, and a 3-drop-target bank.
See? Ask and Ung shall provide! :)
> >(I'm making the blatent assumption that since the 3-bank set uses
> >optos, that the 5-bank would probably use them too!)
>
> I would imagine... :-)
>
> I guess the good news is, you don't need any more switch positions.
> Since I can't find a Rollergames manual on-line, I can't verify that
> there are any solenoid positions open ... but *maybe* there is, and
> that signal still exists in the current software.
Heyyyy, now we're getting somewhere! As a matter of fact, Rollergames
has one, count 'em, EXACTLY ONE solenoid position open! Solenoid 5A
is listed as not used on the solenoid table.
Coincidentally (or maybe not!!), solenoid 6A is the 3-bank reset
solenoid.
HMmmmmmmmm. Veerrryyy interesting, no? :)
> Anyone taken a peek at the Rollergames flyer? If those really were
> drop-targets at one point, there's a good chance it's pictured on the
> flyer.
Hmmm, gamearchive has pages 1 and 4 of the flyer, but unfortunately
they don't show the area in question. If anyone has a link, pass it
on! :)
> I guess I'll have to check mine when I get home...
DO tell! :)
Ootters
targets.Atleast that is what it looks like to me. Never noticed it before. Very
cool.
Jan Svach
drop targets clear as day on both the front and back. There's even an arrow
pointing to the 3 drop target bank.
Jan Svach
The Korn
Read the rest of the thread.
The Korn
> drop targets clear as day on both the front and back. There's even an arrow
> pointing to the 3 drop target bank.
Read the rest of the thread (
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=c6702204da3f9a96 )
Bill Ung
>Bill Ung <brad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<k8aa8u4eafpk8ueqh...@4ax.com>...
>> On 5 Mar 2002 09:57:22 -0800, the...@hotmail.com (The Korn) wrote:
>>
>> >"John Wart, jr" <johnw...@johnwartjr.com> wrote in message news:<3c84d892$0$1604$272e...@news.execpc.com>...
>> >> Hrmm, that would lead me to believe with some work, a set of drops could
>> >> possibly be integrated....
>> >>
>> >> Anyone got some pics of a proto, preferably on the top and the bottom of the
>> >> PF around the SKATE targets?
>> >>
>> >> Some protos were also diamondplated :) My NOS wired field wasn't, but is
>> >> gonna be before I put it in.
>> >
>> >I remember there was a DP'd RG at one of the expo auctions a few years
>> >back. It also had standups for SKATE, so you're probably looking at
>> >(MAYBE) only the pure prototypes (and not the "test" machines) having
>> >the drops. That's probably less than ten machines. Good luck. Heh.
>>
>> I've seen one or two myself, so I think the DiamondPlated games were
>> more than just the initial prototype run.
>
>Mmmm, that's not what I was intending to say. I'm not sure if the one
>that I saw for auction was a test or a prototype; I pretty much
>assumed it was a test machine, and that the tests were DP'd. (Seemed
>to be the pattern at that time.)
Sorry if I misunderstood. DP'd prototype w/ 5-bank drop-target?
Sounds cool to me!!
Now I just wish my prototype Earthshaker was DP'd... :-)
>> >What might be more constructive is attempting to retrofit a 5-bank
>> >opto drop from some OTHER game. Can't think of a game with a 5-bank
>> >opto drop set off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will come
>> >to the rescue. :)
>>
>> Sorry, I forgot my cape <g> but ... "Bad Cats" has both a 5-drop
>> target bank, and a 3-drop-target bank.
>
>See? Ask and Ung shall provide! :)
:-)
>> >(I'm making the blatent assumption that since the 3-bank set uses
>> >optos, that the 5-bank would probably use them too!)
>>
>> I would imagine... :-)
>>
>> I guess the good news is, you don't need any more switch positions.
>> Since I can't find a Rollergames manual on-line, I can't verify that
>> there are any solenoid positions open ... but *maybe* there is, and
>> that signal still exists in the current software.
>
>Heyyyy, now we're getting somewhere! As a matter of fact, Rollergames
>has one, count 'em, EXACTLY ONE solenoid position open! Solenoid 5A
>is listed as not used on the solenoid table.
>
>Coincidentally (or maybe not!!), solenoid 6A is the 3-bank reset
>solenoid.
>
>HMmmmmmmmm. Veerrryyy interesting, no? :)
Sounds verrrryyy interesting to me!!
Interestingly enough (or maybe not), my "Elvira and the Party
Monsters" game has one solenoid open ... 4A. It seemed an odd slot to
leave open (ie: it's not towards the end), so I put a #89 lamp on it
and played a game.
It never fired once. :-(
It did work in the coil test, so I would guess that I did it right ...
there just ain't nothin' there. Oh well, it *would* have been
interesting to find some old, forgotten prototype feature ... but
whatever might have originally started there, doesn't appear to exist
anymore.
Or at least, not in the LA-4 software...
>> Anyone taken a peek at the Rollergames flyer? If those really were
>> drop-targets at one point, there's a good chance it's pictured on the
>> flyer.
>
>Hmmm, gamearchive has pages 1 and 4 of the flyer, but unfortunately
>they don't show the area in question. If anyone has a link, pass it
>on! :)
>
>> I guess I'll have to check mine when I get home...
>
>DO tell! :)
Sorry to dissapoint, but the pictures of the game in the flyer are
from the left-side of the machine, so I couldn't see the S-K-A-T-E
targets.
Someone else says you can see the tops of the drop-targets from
behind, but perhaps I simply didn't look closely enough. Come to
think of it, I probably shoulda scanned it.
Maybe tomorrow...