Collecting up Scarff Hate posts re Gerry Armstrong
Caroline Letkeman
OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/index.html
As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts immediately
after he makes them. We have a number of these insane attacks on
Gerry and his friends, but obviously not all of them. These will make
a great addition to the gerryarmstrong.org site because Scarff
demonstrates so well the visciousness and insanity of the people
Scientology uses to carry out its dirty ops.
If anyone's a.r.s. archive contains Garry Scarff's hateful attacks,
please let us know.
-----------------------------
Caroline Letkeman
------------------------------
Shy David
<caro...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
> We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
> OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
> Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
>
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/index.html
Caaaaching! US$50,000
> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts immediately
> after he makes them. We have a number of these insane attacks on
> Gerry and his friends, but obviously not all of them. These will make
> a great addition to the gerryarmstrong.org site because Scarff
> demonstrates so well the visciousness and insanity of the people
> Scientology uses to carry out its dirty ops.
>
> If anyone's a.r.s. archive contains Garry Scarff's hateful attacks,
> please let us know.
Do you in sooth believe Gary Scarff's motive is "hate?" Or are
you using the word politically, like the Scientology mafia does?
> Caroline Letkeman
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Caaaaching! US$50,000
(This is sooooo cool.)
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Leipzig
Caroline Letkeman
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:38:58 +0100, Caroline Letkeman
><caro...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
>> We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
>> OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
>> Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
>>
>> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/index.html
>
>Caaaaching! US$50,000
>
>> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts immediately
>> after he makes them. We have a number of these insane attacks on
>> Gerry and his friends, but obviously not all of them. These will make
>> a great addition to the gerryarmstrong.org site because Scarff
>> demonstrates so well the visciousness and insanity of the people
>> Scientology uses to carry out its dirty ops.
>>
>> If anyone's a.r.s. archive contains Garry Scarff's hateful attacks,
>> please let us know.
>
>Do you in sooth believe Gary Scarff's motive is "hate?" Or are
>you using the word politically, like the Scientology mafia does?
>
I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
Obviously, Scarff is choosing as his main personal targets the wogs he
knows Scientology most hates and seeks to destroy. Other posters who
also claim to not be employed by the cult do the same thing. In order
to carry out what he knows and what everyone here knows is OSA's
"Command Intention," Scarff must either possess or pretend to possess
the requisite hatred for OSA's targets.
In my perusal of whatever exists and I've found in the public record,
there is no legitimate reason for Scarff to hate Gerry. Same for
Garry's apparent hatred for and attacks on Tilman. The only thing
Gerry has done is to call him on his op and stand up to his hateful
attacks on good people. Same again with Tilman. This may provide Garry
with the motiviation and motivator he needs to carry out his vicious
attacks. But it doesn't make them legitimate.
Garry's recent hate post directed at me is solely because I am
connected to Gerry. Similarly, Scientologists hate me because I am
connected to Gerry. Scientologists learn how to hate on demand, ie.,
in accordance with "Command Intention, " whom their leadership
identifies as their enemies. This is called "handling suppression" in
Scientology.
The "tech" is covered in the PTS/SP Detection and Routing Course. A
very basic Hubbardian tool taught on this course is "tone scale
drilling," where Scientologists learn to override their natural
emotional responses and instead simulate "appropriate" emotional tones
on demand. Included in this teaching is the use of emotional
pretense to evoke certain emotional responses in others, in order to
control them and get them to comply with Command Intention.
Emotional manipulation is covered in Science of Survival, which is a
basic text of the PTS/SP Detection and Routing Course. Scientology
teaches emotional manipulation as a survival tool. "Hate" is simply
an emotional tone for a Scientologist, and one that is specifically
taught and learned in their tone scale drilling.
Emotional pretense is legitimatized and made a weapon for
Scientologists by the Hubbardian maxim that beings "create their own
emotions." "Creating" or synthesizing one's emotions is virtuous if
it forwards Command Intention. Emotional response which does not
forward Command Intention is called "human emotion and reaction" and
must be eradicated, audited out or handled with "ethics."
OSA (unless it's a superb troll) is currently trying to recruit a.r.s.
posters to help them "handle suppression" in this way. But the
"Command Intention" of OSA cannot be different from the Command
Intention of, and indeed comes by order from, Scientology's
unequivocal leader, David Miscavige, who makes directed hatred not
only ethical, but mandatory.
>> Caroline Letkeman
>> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
>
>Caaaaching! US$50,000
>
>(This is sooooo cool.)
:-))
>
>---
>"That reminds me of the psychotic architect fixated on intricate
>industrial parks; he had a complex complex complex." --- Marty
>Leipzig
-----------------------------
Tilman Hausherr
<caro...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in
<vc1tru40nbkce7hf6...@4ax.com>:
>I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
>hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
>way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
>pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
>motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
>
>Obviously, Scarff is choosing as his main personal targets the wogs he
>knows Scientology most hates and seeks to destroy. Other posters who
>also claim to not be employed by the cult do the same thing. In order
>to carry out what he knows and what everyone here knows is OSA's
>"Command Intention," Scarff must either possess or pretend to possess
>the requisite hatred for OSA's targets.
>
>In my perusal of whatever exists and I've found in the public record,
>there is no legitimate reason for Scarff to hate Gerry. Same for
>Garry's apparent hatred for and attacks on Tilman. The only thing
>Gerry has done is to call him on his op and stand up to his hateful
>attacks on good people. Same again with Tilman. This may provide Garry
>with the motiviation and motivator he needs to carry out his vicious
>attacks. But it doesn't make them legitimate.
Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
Tilman
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Garry
> We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
> OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
> Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here.
Gerry's whore, Caroline, can't think or act for herself, but carries
out Gerry's missives to a T. Funny thing about Gerry though.
He's so pathetically narcissistic and lost in his own world that the
moronic ops he does against me makes him happy, but accomplishes
nothing but make him and his cronies look even more stupid.
>
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/index.html
>
> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts immediately
> after he makes them.
Incorrect. I did that long ago when I had my Newsguy account last
year. Have not cancelled any of my posts since then. Again, Gerry
Armstrong living in the past....
We have a number of these insane attacks on Gerry and his friends, but
obviously not all of them. These will make a great addition to the
gerryarmstrong.org site because Scarff demonstrates so well the
visciousness and insanity of the people Scientology uses to carry out
its dirty ops.
No doubt it'll make you and your small handful of friends happy. Go
for it. You have my blessing :-)
Garry
Garry
.
> We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
> OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
Can you put color pictures of me on it, too, please? I think the one
in black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the naked
slave will do nicely. :-)
> Caroline Letkeman
Gerry's personal slave has done well.
Thomas Gandow
Garry wrote:
> Caroline Letkeman <caro...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in message news:<8plsrukhvkf6bmrr1...@4ax.com>..
> .
>
>>We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
>>OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
>>Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
>>
>
> Can you put color pictures of me on it, too, please? I think the one
> in black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the naked
> slave will do nicely. :-)
>
Wishfull dreaming.
I propose where You patheticly are sobbing and crying in the
german TV camera is perfectly disgusting enough.
TG
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>
> >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:38:58 +0100, Caroline Letkeman
> ><caro...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
> >
> >> We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
> >> OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
> >> Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
> >>
> >> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/index.html
> >
> >Caaaaching! US$50,000
> >
> >> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts immediately
> >> after he makes them. We have a number of these insane attacks on
> >> Gerry and his friends, but obviously not all of them. These will make
> >> a great addition to the gerryarmstrong.org site because Scarff
> >> demonstrates so well the visciousness and insanity of the people
> >> Scientology uses to carry out its dirty ops.
> >>
> >> If anyone's a.r.s. archive contains Garry Scarff's hateful attacks,
> >> please let us know.
> >
> >Do you in sooth believe Gary Scarff's motive is "hate?" Or are
> >you using the word politically, like the Scientology mafia does?
> >
>
> I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
> hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
> way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
> pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
> motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
Really Caroline, are you posting this lengthy drivel or is your pimp
Gerry Armstrong just using you to post what's on his mind?
Anyone that is determined to create a Garry Scarff Hate Page on the
Internet, acting solely from a longtime personal vendetta of hate and
perpetuation of deliberate lies, that has nothing to do with
Scientology, is his own worst enemy.
Gerry's own words and actions show he is a hatemonger that gleefully
attacks and lies about anyone that doesn't support his own personal
agenda, which is partly, why he now lives like a scared rabbit in
Germany. Funny how most critics here still live in the comfort of
their native countries; only a few who don't have the courage or
maturity to take responsibility for their own lives have to flee to
other countries.
Warrior
Garry Scarff's posts are all archived. Contact me if you need
them. I'll see what I can do.
>In message news:<8plsrukhvkf6bmrr1...@4ax.com>
>Caroline Letkeman wrote:
>>
>> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts
>> immediately after he makes them.
In article <f6058cf6.02102...@posting.google.com>,
Garry Scarff <ffr...@hotmail.com> says...
>
>Incorrect. I did that long ago when I had my Newsguy account
>last year.
It wasn't "long ago" that you had an account with Newsguy.
You posted via your Newsguy account until it was closed on
or about April 18, 2002.
=== begin partial Garry Scarff post ===
From: "GarryS" <Garr...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Newsguy suspends my account
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:40:31 -0700
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID: <OvlHxS25BHA.1172@cpimsnntpa03>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
NNTP-Posting-Host: 06-159.103.popsite.net 64.24.182.159
Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1456592
This morning, at school, I was unable to access my Newsguy account.
When I arrived home, I could not access the account so I made yet
another long distance telephone call to the Newsguy offices in
Northern California, spoke briefly with a rep. said he's have to
research the problem and would send me an e-mail with an answer.
I received the following e-mail from Newsguy:
"As a followup to your telephone inquiry earlier, you will find
information on your account status in reply to your ARS post."
My Account Status has this message: "Your access has been suspended
and you would be unable to access the service at this time. If you
have any questions, phone (408) 720-7620.
=== end partial Garry Scarff post ===
In article <f6058cf6.02102...@posting.google.com>,
Garry Scarff <ffr...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>We have a number of these insane attacks on Gerry and his friends,
>but obviously not all of them. These will make a great addition to
>the gerryarmstrong.org site because Scarff demonstrates so well the
>visciousness and insanity of the people Scientology uses to carry
>out its dirty ops.
>
>Garry
Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
http://warrior.offlines.org
Garry
>
Sorry to burst your bubble, Caroline, but this has nothing to do with
Scientology, though you are proving well that there are tormented
critics operating with an obsessive-compulsive mentality which seeks
to connect everything to Scientology, no matter how ridiculous the
allusion.
Some day, hopefully, when you have been fully deprogrammed of the
Scientology and Gerry Armstrong mind-fucking, you will come to grasp
just how far and long you have been led and manipulated.
But if it makes you feel good to call me OSA, feel free. And feel free
to look stupid as well.
Capt. Fredric L. Rice
>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:11:11 +0100, Caroline Letkeman
><caro...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in
><vc1tru40nbkce7hf6...@4ax.com>:
>>I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
>>hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
>>way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
>>pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
>>motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
>>
>>Obviously, Scarff is choosing as his main personal targets the wogs he
>>knows Scientology most hates and seeks to destroy. Other posters who
>>also claim to not be employed by the cult do the same thing. In order
>>to carry out what he knows and what everyone here knows is OSA's
>>"Command Intention," Scarff must either possess or pretend to possess
>>the requisite hatred for OSA's targets.
>>
>>In my perusal of whatever exists and I've found in the public record,
>>there is no legitimate reason for Scarff to hate Gerry. Same for
>>Garry's apparent hatred for and attacks on Tilman. The only thing
>>Gerry has done is to call him on his op and stand up to his hateful
>>attacks on good people. Same again with Tilman. This may provide Garry
>>with the motiviation and motivator he needs to carry out his vicious
>>attacks. But it doesn't make them legitimate.
>Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
You know, I don't think that's true -- not most of the time, anyway.
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Garry
> >
> >>We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff
> >>OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
> >>Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
> >
> > Can you put color pictures of me on it, too, please? I think the one
> > in black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the naked
> > slave will do nicely. :-)
>
> Wishfull dreaming.
> I propose where You patheticly are sobbing and crying in the
> german TV camera is perfectly disgusting enough.
Why? It was a great act requested by the German filmmakers. And it
worked. I heard the documentary was very well-received in Germany.
Can't blame me because filmmakers from your country wanted to pull the
wool over your eyes.
Truly disgusting that you were so easily fooled.
Phineas Fogg
Garry <ffr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f6058cf6.0210...@posting.google.com...
> Gerry's own words and actions show he is a hatemonger that gleefully
> attacks and lies about anyone that doesn't support his own personal
> agenda, which is partly, why he now lives like a scared rabbit in
> Germany. Funny how most critics here still live in the comfort of
> their native countries; only a few who don't have the courage or
> maturity to take responsibility for their own lives have to flee to
> other countries.
The multiheaded hydra of the CoS legal dept has millions to hurl at
you, litigate and/or railroad you into oblivion, and so, fleeing might
be the best choice for some who do not have the resources to fight
Scientology.
Scientology wasted 121/2 years of Gerry's life, 9 years of my life.
I don't hate, but if they endured what Gerry endured at the hands of
the CoS did, I just might cut them a little slack. Your assertions
are therefore unfounded, and smack of innuendo, ergo, possess the
trappings "hate", itself.
Phineas
Thomas Gandow
Garry wrote:
We were not fooled. We just saw You patheticly sobbing and crying
in the german TV camera. Perfectly disgusting enough.
No black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the
naked slave needed.
You just did it for a black camera.
Why not taking that color picture of a very bad actor, who not
even fooled the german filmmakers?
TG
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wrote:
>Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
Especially himself. He's earned it, too.
ptsc
Garry
>
> >I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
> >hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
> >way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
> >pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
> >motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
snip
>
> Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
Yeah...right, Naziboy.
Trying to impress your fugitive fuckbuddy, Gerry?
Garry
> Caroline:
>
> Garry Scarff's posts are all archived. Contact me if you need
> them. I'll see what I can do.
Go for it, dude.
>
> >In message news:<8plsrukhvkf6bmrr1...@4ax.com>
> >Caroline Letkeman wrote:
> >>
> >> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts
> >> immediately after he makes them.
>
> In article <f6058cf6.02102...@posting.google.com>,
> Garry Scarff <ffr...@hotmail.com> says...
> >
> >Incorrect. I did that long ago when I had my Newsguy account
> >last year.
>
> It wasn't "long ago" that you had an account with Newsguy.
> You posted via your Newsguy account until it was closed on
> or about April 18, 2002.
I stand corrected. My account was closed 6 months ago... which still
shows Caroline and Gerry are lying about my "standardly cancels his
posts."
Obviously, you and your clones enjoy misrepresenting the present by
using the past. How Scientological of you.
Garry
>
> >>I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
> >>hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
> >>way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
> >>pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
> >>motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
snip
>
> >Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
>
> You know, I don't think that's true -- not most of the time, anyway.
Nahhh.... Tilman can always be depended on making his usual scurrilous
comments which never have any basis in fact. Just a tormented neo-Nazi
who can't keep a girlfriend.
Tilman Hausherr
<f6058cf6.02103...@posting.google.com>:
Caroline - you can add that one :)
Garry
> >>>>
> >>>Can you put color pictures of me on it, too, please? I think the one
> >>>in black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the naked
> >>>slave will do nicely. :-)
> >>>
> >>Wishfull dreaming.
> >>I propose where You patheticly are sobbing and crying in the
> >>german TV camera is perfectly disgusting enough.
> >
> > Why? It was a great act requested by the German filmmakers. And it
> > worked. I heard the documentary was very well-received in Germany.
> >
> > Can't blame me because filmmakers from your country wanted to pull the
> > wool over your eyes.
> >
> > Truly disgusting that you were so easily fooled.
>
> We were not fooled. We just saw You patheticly sobbing and crying
> in the german TV camera. Perfectly disgusting enough.
That's funny. Martin Ottman and German government officials I met with
in Munich told me a totally different story. But then, it is quite
evident that you are one of Tilman's major ass-kissers and will swing
his way no matter what the cause.
> No black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the
> naked slave needed.
Nope. I'm dressing up as Anna Nicole Smith. More colorful.
> You just did it for a black camera.
> Why not taking that color picture of a very bad actor, who not
> even fooled the german filmmakers?
I didn't have to fool the German filmmakers because they planned it
for effect. Of course, you wouldn't know that because you weren't
there.
For a minister, you sure suck when it comes to maturity and
compassion, Rev.
Garry
>
> > Gerry's own words and actions show he is a hatemonger that gleefully
> > attacks and lies about anyone that doesn't support his own personal
> > agenda, which is partly, why he now lives like a scared rabbit in
> > Germany. Funny how most critics here still live in the comfort of
> > their native countries; only a few who don't have the courage or
> > maturity to take responsibility for their own lives have to flee to
> > other countries.
>
> The multiheaded hydra of the CoS legal dept has millions to hurl at
> you, litigate and/or railroad you into oblivion, and so, fleeing might
> be the best choice for some who do not have the resources to fight
> Scientology.
>
> Scientology wasted 121/2 years of Gerry's life, 9 years of my life.
And rather than get on with your life, and move on past your
Scientology past, you want to milk the experience for all it's worth.
Unlike Gerry, most victims of Scientology don't try to milk their
experiences in order to gain fame and fortune. Gerry's role as a
critic was an important one 20 years ago; today, he is just another
loser trying to milk the past for all it's worth... an immature,
irresponsible narcissistic and financial scam artist.
>
> I don't hate, but if they endured what Gerry endured at the hands of
> the CoS did, I just might cut them a little slack. Your assertions
> are therefore unfounded, and smack of innuendo, ergo, possess the
> trappings "hate", itself.
Right. Which is why only a handful of non-relevent critics agree with
you.
Garry
>
> >Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
>
> Especially himself. He's earned it, too.
I can't hold a candle to your many archived messages of hate posted on
ARS, Rob, nor do I possess the criminal arrest record you have for
crimes of theft.
Capt. Fredric L. Rice
>Garry wrote:
>> Thomas Gandow <gan...@dialogzentrum.de> wrote in message news:<3DBEE1EB=
>=2E20...@dialogzentrum.de>...
>>>>>We're putting up a page which we'll call something like "Garry Scarff=
>>>>>OSA Operative's Hate posts." It will go on the Scientology's
>>>>>Black Propaganda and Black Ops page here:
>>>>Can you put color pictures of me on it, too, please? I think the one
>>>>in black leather chaps and chain swinging the cat-o-nine at the naked
>>>>slave will do nicely. :-)
>>>Wishfull dreaming.
>>>I propose where You patheticly are sobbing and crying in the=20
>>>german TV camera is perfectly disgusting enough.
>> Why? It was a great act requested by the German filmmakers. And it
>> worked. I heard the documentary was very well-received in Germany.
>> Can't blame me because filmmakers from your country wanted to pull the
>> wool over your eyes.
>> Truly disgusting that you were so easily fooled.
>We were not fooled. We just saw You patheticly sobbing and crying=20
>in the german TV camera. Perfectly disgusting enough.
The Scientology crime syndicate has made a _lot_ of people cry. Mr.
Scarff wasn't the first, and he's not been the last by far. I think
he deserves a little slack -- though that may be my miniam experience
as a minister speaking. We all can't be heros and stand bravely
against organized criminals with a well known history.
Capt. Fredric L. Rice
>FR...@SkepticTank.ORG (Capt. Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:<urukf33...@corp.supernews.com>...
>>>>I am not saying that Scarff's motive for his hate posts is really
>>>>hate. It is likely that Scarff's "hatred" is pretended in the same
>>>>way that we see Scientologists' apparent stupidity here on a.r.s. is
>>>>pretended. Whatever Scarff's real motivation is, he is acting as if
>>>>motivated by hate and his product in many of his posts is hate.
>>>Scarff hates everyone. Including himself.
>> You know, I don't think that's true -- not most of the time, anyway.
>Nahhh.... Tilman can always be depended on making his usual scurrilous
>comments which never have any basis in fact. Just a tormented neo-Nazi
>who can't keep a girlfriend.
<heh> And then you come along with one of these comments which
motivates me to want to understand you less. }:-} Garry, you're
as much a victim of Scientology's debilitative brainwashing as,
say for example, Mr. Fishman. Few -- if any -- here hate your
guts because, I suspect, they know how debilitative Scientology
can be. But sweet mother fucking Xenu, ain't nobody here a
neo-Nazi but Scientology -- and George Dubya Bush.
Boudewijn van Ingen
Nobody ever asked Scarff to be a hero. And most people would not
attempt to manufacture silly excuses for their mistakes, or try to
blame others for them.
Scarff needs just enough slack to get some treatment for his problems.
And that's what he's getting here on ARS. No more no less. If you give
him too much rope, he might hang himself, and we've seen too many
deranged people dying needlessly already.
--
Groeten,
Boudewijn.
Garry
snip
> >
> >The Scientology crime syndicate has made a _lot_ of people cry. Mr.
> >Scarff wasn't the first, and he's not been the last by far. I think
> >he deserves a little slack -- though that may be my miniam experience
> >as a minister speaking. We all can't be heros and stand bravely
> >against organized criminals with a well known history.
>
> Nobody ever asked Scarff to be a hero.
You're full of shit there, freak-o. The attorneys battling Scientology
long took advantage of my turning on the cult giving my name & phone
number out to media without my consent, often publicizing my role in
that effort. You really ought to check out the facts before glibly
lying about them as you so often do.
contributing their And most people would not attempt to manufacture
silly excuses for their mistakes, or try to blame others for them.
This might make sense if it were not for the fact that you have long
waged a hostile and hateful vendetta against me, often lying to
further your own agenda. But, then, that seems to be a motivating
factor with the clueless among you.
>
> Scarff needs just enough slack to get some treatment for his problems.
> And that's what he's getting here on ARS. No more no less. If you give
> him too much rope, he might hang himself, and we've seen too many
> deranged people dying needlessly already.
You, mistakenly, believe that I live my life based on the nuances of a
very few handful of irrelevent critics on ARS. What a fool!
You, obviously, live your life with your head so far entrenched up
your ass, you'll never be able to see the light of day.
Phineas Fogg
Warning others of impending fraud does not necessarily equate with not
getting on with one's life.
The next time someone warns you against a potential fraud about to be
committed upon your person, are you going to complain that that person
is not getting on with his or her life?
> Unlike Gerry, most victims of Scientology don't try to milk their
> experiences in order to gain fame and fortune. Gerry's role as a
> critic was an important one 20 years ago; today, he is just another
> loser trying to milk the past for all it's worth... an immature,
> irresponsible narcissistic and financial scam artist.
Most victims of Scientology did not have fame, unwillingly, leaped
upon them. Gerry has put it to good use, imo.
If Gerry's work goes a long ways to prevent someone from being scammed
into Scientology, whatever narcissistic motive you attribute to him
wouldn't matter. His site is well documented, professionally
designed, and so your characterization smacks of your own whiny
vendetta against him, and does not ring true. Sure, Gerry has faults,
so do you and I, but let us look to the positive aspects of our deeds.
Are your the kind of person that looks at a cup, 50% full, or 50%
empty?
It is a choice one makes in life.
Phineas
Warrior
>> >Caroline Letkeman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> As is well known, Scarff standardly cancels his hate posts
>> >> immediately after he makes them.
>> In article <f6058cf6.02102...@posting.google.com>,
>> Garry Scarff <ffr...@hotmail.com> incorrectly stated:
>> >
>> >Incorrect. I did that long ago when I had my Newsguy account
>> >last year.
>Warrior <war...@xenu.ca> wrote:
>>
>> It wasn't "long ago" that you had an account with Newsguy.
>> You posted via your Newsguy account until it was closed on
>> or about April 18, 2002.
In article <f6058cf6.02103...@posting.google.com>, ffr...@hotmail.com
says...
>
>I stand corrected. My account was closed 6 months ago... which still
>shows Caroline and Gerry are lying about my "standardly cancels his
>posts."
>
>Obviously, you and your clones enjoy misrepresenting the present by
>using the past.
I have not misrepresented the present by using the past, nor do I
have any clone or clones.
>How Scientological of you.
Nope. That's a fallacious statement, as it contains a severely flawed
and fundamental error in reasoning.
Deana Holmes
> If anyone's a.r.s. archive contains Garry Scarff's hateful attacks,
> please let us know.
So, is this part of your duties in being the only member of Gerry
Armstrong's Cult of One [TM]?
Really, Caroline, you could spend your time better doing other things,
starting with taking Gerry off the pedestal that you put him on.
Deana
mir...@sonic.net
Garry
Another well-known critic here made the same regrettable mistake and
was hurt dearly by it with no apology whatsoever from Prophet Gerry.
Tilman Hausherr
in <Xns92BBBE1AB691...@208.201.224.154>:
Deana, meet Garry.
Garry, meet Deana.
Deana Holmes
> Deana, meet Garry.
>
> Garry, meet Deana.
Tilman, if you want to encourage Gerry-worship, just say so.
Deana
mir...@sonic.net
Garry
> >> If anyone's a.r.s. archive contains Garry Scarff's hateful attacks,
> >> please let us know.
> >
> >So, is this part of your duties in being the only member of Gerry
> >Armstrong's Cult of One [TM]?
> >
> >Really, Caroline, you could spend your time better doing other things,
> >starting with taking Gerry off the pedestal that you put him on.
>
> Deana, meet Garry.
>
> Garry, meet Deana.
Tilman, meet Gerry.
Gerry, meet your loyal butt-kisser.