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8th March 2003 A hoax - unsurprisingly

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Chris Burtenshaw

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:36:47 PM11/4/02
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I can more or less gurantee its a hoax, i can even tell you who probably
orchistrated it. I did a search for the site on Google groups, the very
first reference to the 8march2003 site is:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=rhdr9.16
112%24Sr6.522175%40ozemail.com.au&rnum=144&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D8march2003%26s
tart%3D140%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%
3Drhdr9.16112%2524Sr6.522175%2540ozemail.com.au%26rnum%3D144%26filter%3D0

The poster is a guy gint...@siginysis.com I took a look at what i guessed
his website would be... www.siginysis.com and it seems to have some common
features with the "conspiracy" page, i.e the use of large red arial fonts...

first of all i looked at the whois record (in case you dont know, the
person/web providor the site is registered to) for 8march2003.com :

Domain Name: 8MARCH2003.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: WSC1.JOMAX.NET
Name Server: WSC2.JOMAX.NET
Updated Date: 10-oct-2002


and then the whois record for this siginysis


Domain Name: SIGINYSIS.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS7.WEBTRADER.NET.AU
Name Server: NS6.WEBTRADER.NET.AU
Updated Date: 24-jan-2002


Look similar? seems like these two have web hosting with the same company...
what a surprise...

So looks like our revelations are from a guy who sells dodgy "health and
wellbeing" advice from some outback shack in australia.. doesn't sounds like
a man on the run from "men in black vans"...

I know the whole page itself smells of hoax, but i thought it would be best
to discount it by something a bit more scientific than the "but he would
release any photos if they were ground breaking" arguement :)

Cheers

Chris


JM

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Nov 7, 2002, 2:07:22 AM11/7/02
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Ok I did a little digging, GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC. is the company in which
they registered their domain names.


8march2003.com is hosted by godaddy with AT&T at attens.com as the upstream
provider.

siginysis.com is hosted by webtrader.net.au with rackspace.com as an upsteam
provider.

godaddy.com is hosted by AT&T at attens.com


Sounds like to me that 8march2003.com decided to get their hosting from
godaddy, which goes to attens as the upstream provider. But siginysys.com
reqistered only their domain name with godaddy, but chose another company to
host their site.

In article <aq7ebc$d85$1$8300...@news.demon.co.uk>, chri...@bigfoot.com
says...

Jason Tubbs

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Nov 7, 2002, 7:26:54 PM11/7/02
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I have also done my digging. I have e-mailed the original poster directly
and also found some of his other posts. this guy is legit. I am sure he has
nothing to do with the creation of 8march2003

He is based in Australia. and being a student of dialects it is clear to me
that the creator of 8march2003 is of North American origin.

it is fairly apparent that the creator 8march2003 is very intellegent. even
more so if the site is a hoax because he is going to get the media and
public attention he obviously wants/needs

I wait with anticipation as to what the 8th of March means

Jones

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Nov 7, 2002, 8:56:30 PM11/7/02
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This seems to me to be nothing more than a publicity stunt. Notice on
the www.march82003.com web page the word bookmark. Book is in capital
leters and appears as such "BOOKmark"...hmmm. I noticed this and so
did others. Try this page
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/march8.htm
The "BOOKmark" is noted along with a few other good points to indicate
it's nothing more than a publicity stunt.

On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 03:36:47 -0000, "Chris Burtenshaw"
<chri...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I can more or less gurantee its a hoax, i can even tell you who probably
>orchistrated it. I did a search for the site on Google groups, the very
>first reference to the 8march2003 site is:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=rhdr9.16
>112%24Sr6.522175%40ozemail.com.au&rnum=144&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D8march2003%26s
>tart%3D140%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%
>3Drhdr9.16112%2524Sr6.522175%2540ozemail.com.au%26rnum%3D144%26filter%3D0

<snip>

Allen Webb

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Nov 7, 2002, 9:31:30 PM11/7/02
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Art Bell adamantly wants to interview whoever the hell it is that is
responsible. lol

Desmond Beobachter

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Nov 8, 2002, 4:27:01 AM11/8/02
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Jason Tubbs wrote that the creator of 8march2003 is of North American
origin. He believes this becuase of the manner in which he wites.
While I am not familiar with the manner in which Canadians speak, I
found multiple points in the 8march2003 page that seem incompatible
with common speech in the U.S.A. If the guy was American, he would
not use the word "trekking", he would use "hiking". If the guy was
American, he would not use the word "pullover", he would use
"sweater". There are other points as well. The site seems to me to
be written in an intentionaly nationality-vauge fashion, but doesn't
seem American. The only way that this guy is from North America is if
he is Canadian.

Jarrod Frates

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Nov 8, 2002, 1:00:58 PM11/8/02
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b...@mikal.zzn.com (Desmond Beobachter) wrote in message news:<fbba118d.02110...@posting.google.com>...

> If the guy was American, he would
> not use the word "trekking", he would use "hiking". If the guy was
> American, he would not use the word "pullover", he would use
> "sweater".

A quick word on word use:

While I agree that "trekking" is an unusual word, my older relatives
from the Chicago and Boston area both refer to sweaters as pullovers.
Maybe it's an odd quirk of my family, but the Chicago group is on my
mom's side, and the Boston group on my dad's side.

I'm leaning towards hoax, though.


Jarrod

Mark Butler

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Nov 8, 2002, 1:08:42 PM11/8/02
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Not to mention the fact that he uses the phrase "holidays" instead of
the American "vacation." I agree that if he is North American, he is
a Canadian.

autopilot

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Nov 8, 2002, 5:00:15 PM11/8/02
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The site is down now, read into that what you will...

XeNoCHRiST

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Nov 8, 2002, 6:42:05 PM11/8/02
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b...@mikal.zzn.com (Desmond Beobachter) wrote in message news:<fbba118d.02110...@posting.google.com>...


H...@8march2003.com

The site is down. Part of the plan????
The whole thing sounds pretty lame. With the mouse moving and his HDD
whirring, then a black van shows up. What is the amount of time this
all took place. So who ever came to see him, just happened to have a
office near by and was on standby for anyone that puts certain key
words into search engines??????... The story was OK, but could have
been better thought out with the whole someone is chasing me and i
have to be on the run story.

So here are my odds on this.
Someones lame attempt at publicity 99.9%

This is real and we are in for a big surprise. .1%

I am sure the lil' boy or girl inside us all hopes the latter of the
two.

Jones

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Nov 8, 2002, 10:18:48 PM11/8/02
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The text below is from http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/march8.htm

Dear readers,

This site was originally posted as a piece of writing with purposeful
clues and discrepancies to indicate it's fictitious nature leading up
to a pre publicity campaign to see how much interest it might
generate. Quite honestly the overwhelming response and attention was
not expected, or at least not so quickly. That was why the site was
posted several months ahead with the intention of it slowly gathering
momentum, leading up to the actual revealing date.

Most people have sent emails indicating that they enjoyed the site and
looked forward to finding out about the potential release of a variety
of things such as a new movie, computer game, SLR camera, novel,
camera film and the list goes on.

There are some that have taken this site too seriously, and it has
been brought to my attention that innocent people have been implicated
as the creators of this site. I therefore feel it is appropriate to
make this announcement. As many have pointed out, if the story was for
real it would have been shut down by now.

If you still wish to follow this event, please enjoy it as a
fictitious story leading up to what will be revealed on the above
mentioned date. If there is enough interest, the original story may be
re-posted as an optional link on this page within the next few weeks.

Kind Regards,
HM
H...@8march2003.com

kathy3099

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Nov 9, 2002, 12:15:16 AM11/9/02
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What is Amy's i?


j.

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Nov 12, 2002, 4:44:25 AM11/12/02
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"kathy3099" <kath...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<ER0z9.21277$6b.8...@news2.east.cox.net>...

> What is Amy's i?

Amys i is an internet column in the daily mirror ( a british tabloid )
this is how i found out about 8march2003.com. and many others no doubt.

rodney_victor

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Nov 13, 2002, 3:23:10 AM11/13/02
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jfr...@hotmail.com (Jarrod Frates) wrote:

> While I agree that "trekking" is an unusual word

The word "trek" is of Afrikaans origin and is used pretty generally in
South Africa, even among people who are not Afrikaans. I think it is
now effectively an international word, because it has appeared in a
number of English dictionaries published in England. (I'm not sure
about "English" dictionaries published in the US.)

The literal meaning of the word is to "pull", but the sense of the
word includes something of a long and difficult journey. The Afrikaner
settlers at the Cape at the southern tip of Africa embarked on what is
now called "The Groot Trek" into the interior of Africa in their
ox-wagons from 1835 onwards to escape oppresive British rule in the
Cape.

They had the misfortune to colonise an area where vast gold deposits
were later discovered, which led to those damn Brits provoking an
incident which led to two ruinous Anglo-Boer wars taking place in this
part of the world. Untimately the diamond fields and the gold gields
of southern Africa fell under British control.

During the war the khaki-clad Boers ran an effective guerilla campaign
against the Brits, who were marching around the dry veld in their
stupid red uniforms. The Brits then decided to round up all the
Afrikaners they could find and place them in concentration camps. They
also torched their farms so the Boer commandos could no longer be
supplied with food. Many thousands of Boer women and children died in
the concentration camps, leading to very bitter feelings against the
British on the part of the Afrikaners. It was thanks to the efforts of
the British nurse Emily Hobhouse that the plight of the Boers was
brought to the attention of the British people.

Douglas Berry

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Nov 13, 2002, 1:17:14 PM11/13/02
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On 13 Nov 2002 00:23:10 -0800, a wanderer, known to us only as
rodney...@yahoo.com (rodney_victor) warmed at our fire and told
this tale:

>During the war the khaki-clad Boers ran an effective guerilla campaign
>against the Brits, who were marching around the dry veld in their
>stupid red uniforms.

My great-grandfather fought in the Boer War (he was even besieged at
Ladysmith.)

By 1899, they had ditched the lobsterback uniforms for the most part.
Even the British Army can learn.

--

Douglas E. Berry grid...@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

F. M. Carlock

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Nov 16, 2002, 2:41:10 AM11/16/02
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I agree with it being a hoax, however, I'm American born and bred and
I say "Taking a Holiday" rather then vacation.

mbu...@cdeducation.org (Mark Butler) wrote in message news:<bf8b9542.02110...@posting.google.com>...

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