1600sw Flat Panel Questions
David Chaney
display and was rather impressed when comparing it to a SGI "20in (model
20E21). Although it felt smaller at first than the "20, it seemed to
kinda grow (???) once I sat down and started using it and display
properties were superb (clarity, brightness, accuracy, etc) I am now
strongly considering purchasing a SGI 1600sw display and have a few
questions:
1. How does the 1600sw display compare in size, quality, etc to the
newest SGI "21 Flat Trinitron model (model 5411)?
2. What exactly does Multilink Adapter provide?
3. If I plan to use it on an O2, will the new Multilink Adapter work or
do I need the older digital O2 adapter also?
Initially, the 1600sw will be used on an SGI O2 (and possibly a laptop
sometimes), but will eventually be moved to an SGI 230 (or 330) series
once Linux (and the SGI VWE) mature and more of my apps become
available. I am a Mechanical Design Engineer/MCAD Administrator for a
telecommunications company and use MCAD (Pro/ENGINEER, Flotherm), Tech
Writing (FrameMaker), Web Content (Cosmos Suite), and Mulitmedia
(Photshop, Premiere, and SGI Media Tools).
Sincerely,
David Chaney
Mech Engr/MCAD Admin
Pliant Systems, Inc.
Doug Dingus
I have some answers here for you. You will find them mixed in with
your questions...
David Chaney wrote:
>
> I recently had a chance to very "briefly" use a SGI 1600sw Flat Panel
> display and was rather impressed when comparing it to a SGI "20in (model
>
> 20E21). Although it felt smaller at first than the "20, it seemed to
> kinda grow (???) once I sat down and started using it and display
> properties were superb (clarity, brightness, accuracy, etc) I am now
> strongly considering purchasing a SGI 1600sw display and have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. How does the 1600sw display compare in size, quality, etc to the
> newest SGI "21 Flat Trinitron model (model 5411)?
>
I think that the accuracy of the display is better in the 1600, but
other things like viewing angle, and color purity are better in the
CRT. The biggest advantage the 1600 has over the CRT is the nice aspect
ratio, and its perfect pixels. The CRT's strength lies in its ability
to work at many resolutions, and its better viewing sweet spot.
> 2. What exactly does Multilink Adapter provide?
The 1600 uses an SGI digital interface. Most other graphics systems
use either analog, or a more standard DVI interface. The O2, and SGI
320/540 machines can have an SGI interface added to them. This costs,
but works very well. The MultiLink adapter will allow the 1600 to
display DVI and analog signals. The DVI stuff appears to work very
well. The analog display is of lower quality. If you fiddle with
timing on the host video system, and match resolutions well, then you
can get reasonable results. (Almost any CRT will be better though.)
Basiclly this unit will allow you to use many host machines with the
1600.
>
> 3. If I plan to use it on an O2, will the new Multilink Adapter work or
> do I need the older digital O2 adapter also?
For O2 you should get the digital adapter. It works the best.
>
> Initially, the 1600sw will be used on an SGI O2 (and possibly a laptop
> sometimes), but will eventually be moved to an SGI 230 (or 330) series
> once Linux (and the SGI VWE) mature and more of my apps become
> available. I am a Mechanical Design Engineer/MCAD Administrator for a
> telecommunications company and use MCAD (Pro/ENGINEER, Flotherm), Tech
> Writing (FrameMaker), Web Content (Cosmos Suite), and Mulitmedia
> (Photshop, Premiere, and SGI Media Tools).
I work at a VAR here in Portland, Oregon. I too want this stuff to
happen.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David Chaney
> Mech Engr/MCAD Admin
> Pliant Systems, Inc.
Doug Dingus
Applications Engineer / Trainer
Acuity Inc.
Portland, Oregon
SGI SDRC Alias CADKEY IRIX LINUX and oh yeah NT...
edwinder
I'd like to add something... although you can now use your 1600SW with
virtually ANY vga card in the market as it now has the analog input,
however, you can never reach the 1600x1200 resolution. The max I could get
into this screen in the analog mode was a 1280x1024, and the whole screen
will get "stretched". You can turn off the "wide" view, but you're simply
wasting two inches on each side.
Regards,
Edwinder
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Ian Strange
I just got a ex-demo 1600SW+a multilink adaptor (ML), mainly for a old PC,
but also for a laptop, it does not work with Octane (shame)
Currently waiting for specific Oxygen gfx card to give true 1600x1024 from
PC.
The ML supports standard VESA for input **@60Hz**, if you want to make full
use of the screen 1280x1024 requires less scaling and is therefore
obviously better.
No laptop at present supports Super Wide Savvy, yet new Sony/Ibm/Dells
support external res upto 1600x1200, but check it is at 60Hz.
The best you can hope for is external 1280x1024 @60Hz and let the ML do the
rest for connection to the laptop
Surprisingly i don't mind the scaling and the additional screen, is a real
boost.
Colour, contrast, sharpness are all v. good, and this is just through the
ML
Ohh and you will rediscover areas of your desk you had long forgot about if
it is to replace a 21" CRT, i think you can hang it off the wall if
necessary.
Regards
David Chaney wrote:
> I recently had a chance to very "briefly" use a SGI 1600sw Flat Panel
> display and was rather impressed when comparing it to a SGI "20in (model
>
> 20E21). Although it felt smaller at first than the "20, it seemed to
> kinda grow (???) once I sat down and started using it and display
> properties were superb (clarity, brightness, accuracy, etc) I am now
> strongly considering purchasing a SGI 1600sw display and have a few
> questions:
>
> 1. How does the 1600sw display compare in size, quality, etc to the
> newest SGI "21 Flat Trinitron model (model 5411)?
>
> 2. What exactly does Multilink Adapter provide?
>
> 3. If I plan to use it on an O2, will the new Multilink Adapter work or
> do I need the older digital O2 adapter also?
>
> Initially, the 1600sw will be used on an SGI O2 (and possibly a laptop
> sometimes), but will eventually be moved to an SGI 230 (or 330) series
> once Linux (and the SGI VWE) mature and more of my apps become
> available. I am a Mechanical Design Engineer/MCAD Administrator for a
> telecommunications company and use MCAD (Pro/ENGINEER, Flotherm), Tech
> Writing (FrameMaker), Web Content (Cosmos Suite), and Mulitmedia
> (Photshop, Premiere, and SGI Media Tools).
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David Chaney
> Mech Engr/MCAD Admin
> Pliant Systems, Inc.
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Raymond Sattaur
Matrox g400 supports 1600x1024 with the correct timing as well, in most MS
os's.
RS
"edwinder" <edwinder@_nospam_email.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I'd like to add something... although you can now use your 1600SW with
> virtually ANY vga card in the market as it now has the analog input,
> however, you can never reach the 1600x1200 resolution. The max I could get
> into this screen in the analog mode was a 1280x1024, and the whole screen
> will get "stretched". You can turn off the "wide" view, but you're simply
> wasting two inches on each side.
>
> Regards,
> Edwinder
> edwinder@_nospam_email.com
>
> remove _nospam_ to reply.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > 2. What exactly does Multilink Adapter provide?
Alexis Cousein
> you can never reach the 1600x1200 resolution.
Obviously -- the native resolution is 1600x1024. In the case of this
resolution "never" does not apply unless you imply "with any old VGA card" --
there are a lot of superwide-savvy cards nowadays (at least for a digital DVI
connection -- not all the drivers have correct analog timings for all Win
flavours yet).
--
<standard disclaimer: these are my personal views, not SGI's>
Alexis Cousein a...@brussels.sgi.com
Systems Engineer SGI Belgium/Luxemburg
Alexis Cousein
> support external res upto 1600x1200, but check it is at 60Hz.
Two things:
-you need 1600x1024 support, not 1600x1200.
-even then, you need a specific timing mode that has reduced blankings and a
slow pixel clock (in fact, it's really a 1280x1024@60Hz VESA mode wrt pixel
clock frequency, but with different sync polarities and extra pixels in the
horizontal blanking).
David Komanek
Hello,
please, did somebody managed to get the following (or similar)
configuration working ?
- Irix 6.2 on Indy
- C compiler: MIPSpro, version 7.30
- ISC Bind 9.0.1
- GNU Pthreads (1.4a2) (I've found no original pthreads-library for Irix 6.2)
I'm able to build the named binary and other utilities only as an "old
32" model. If I run it, it hangs somewhere at the same beginning and
doesn't work at all (reacts only to kill-signals :-)
Maybe it's more for a personal communication than for this newsgroup.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
BR,
David Komanek
Joseph Michaud
David Komanek <xda...@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz> wrote:
>
> please, did somebody managed to get the following (or similar)
> configuration working ?
>
> - Irix 6.2 on Indy
> - C compiler: MIPSpro, version 7.30
> - ISC Bind 9.0.1
> - GNU Pthreads (1.4a2) (I've found no original pthreads-library for Irix 6.2)
>
The pthreads library for 6.2 comes from the POSIX patchset. See
http://support.sgi.com/colls/patches/docs/patchset/6.2_posix.rps.html
Joe
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David Komanek
Many Thanks goes to Joseph Michaud who pointed me to the original
libpthread.* library, produced by SGI. This really helped. It seems that
Bind 9.0.1 on Irix 6.2 is not able to handle the GNU-pthreads library
routines properly, although the "make" and "make test" worked perfectly.
BR,
David