Tigger Unit's claim re Minton v. Leipold
Gerry Armstrong
Dan Leipold.
E.g.,
[Quote]
Bob sued Dan Leipold because he wasn't willing to wait.
[End Quote]
Message-ID:
<24060-3DC...@storefull-2273.public.lawson.webtv.net>
[Quote]
Brooks & Minton ... chose to sue Dan Leipold
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Message-ID:
<14516-3D8...@storefull-2277.public.lawson.webtv.net>
[Quote]
Hey if Bob Minton can sue Dan Leipold, whoever, I would think Dan
Leipold, whoever could file lawsuits against Minton and/or Brooks and
I hope they do.
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Is there really such a case or is this just another Tigger Unit lie?
If there is such a case, can someone please point to it or post the
complaint.
Thanks.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Monica Pignotti
> The Tigger Unit has claimed on a number of occasions that Bob has sued
> Dan Leipold.
See Minton's testimony:
11 Q Okay. And one note before we get back to
where we
12 left off before lunch. Did you retain an attorney to
13 represent your interests in seeking repayment from
14 Mr. Leipold in California?
15 A I did.
16 Q What is the attorney's name?
17 A Gary Soter.
18 Q How do you spell that?
19 A S?O?T?E?R.
20 Q And is he an attorney in California?
21 A He is.
22 Q And is he an attorney who either currently
or in
23 the past has represented the interests of the Church
of
24 Scientology?
25 A He has told me that he has never represented
the
1351
1 Church of Scientology. We discussed potential
conflicts of
2 interest in our first conversation.
So it would appear that the person you should be asking about this is
the Minton Unit himself.
Monica
Gerry Armstrong
Pignotti) wrote:
Bob is not the one making the claim. I know what Bob said here, and I
accept it. But he is not to my knowledge participating on a.r.s.
The Tigger Unit is the one stating here on a.r.s. on multiple
occasions that Bob *sued* Dan Leipold. Bob does *not* say that in his
testimony.
If no one on a.r.s. has any information to confirm what Tigger is
claiming then I may go to Minton, and I may go to Leipold.
The Tigger Unit lies about so many things it is reasonable to check
its claims, and if no one can confirm its claims it is reasonable to
conclude it's lying.
But, what data do you have Monica? Is Tigger lying here?
>
>Monica
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
ptsc
wrote:
>But, what data do you have Monica? Is Tigger lying here?
Why not just go to the LA Superior Court website at
http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org and pop in the case number, which
is c332027.
I do not believe, however, that there is an actual suit called
"Minton v. Leipold," there was, instead, an adversary proceeding
subsidiary to the Wollersheim suit itself, which continues to
crawl along like Jarndyce & Jarndyce.
Minton is listed as a cross-complainant. Soter, also in the
list, is his attorney (or was his attorney) for the purposes of
pursuing Leipold. All that has been settled, though. You
might remember Gary Soter, Minton's attorney. He was
hired by Kendrick Moxon to go after Graham Berry. Nice
business associates Minton has now.
Go ahead and call Leipold if you want, though I doubt he's
in any mood to talk to Scientology critics after the shafting
he got from the Scientology/Minton tag team. I have heard
he's never going to do any Scientology litigation again.
I don't blame him after having had a "critic" go after him
with a Scientology lawyer.
If true, yet another piece of fallout from the Minton idiocy.
---
Parties
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CALIF - Defendant/Respondent
CUMMINS & WHITE LLP - Cross-Defendant
DRESCHER WILLIAM LAW OFFICES OF - Attorney for Deft/Respnt
GELFAND & STEIN LLP - Attorney for Pltf/Petnr
GREENE FORD ESQ. - Former Attorney for Pltf/Petn
HAGENBAUGH & MURPHY LAW OFFICES OF - Attorney for Pltf/Petnr
LEIPOLD DANIEL A - Defendant/Respondent
LEIPOLD DONOHUE & SHIPE LLP - Attorney for Pltf/Petnr
LEVENTHAL MICHAEL D. - Attorney for Deft/Respnt
MINTON ROBERT S. - Cross-Complainant
MOXON & KOBRIN - Attorney for Deft/Respnt
ORRICK HERRINGTON & SUTCLIFFE LAW O/O - Attorney for Deft/Respnt
PARKER DAVID B. ESQ. - Attorney for Cross-Complainant
PAUL HASTINGS JANOFSKY & WALKER - Attorney for Deft/Respnt
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER - Defendant/Respondent
SCHLOSSER LETA - Attorney for Real Pty in Int
SOTER GARY S. ESQ. - Attorney for Cross-Complainant
WAKEFIELD JAMES R. ESQ. - Attorney for Cross-Defendant
WOLLERSHEIM LAWRENCE DOMINICK - Plaintiff/Petitioner
ZUCKERT SCOUTT & RASENBERGER L.L.P. - Attorney for Deft/Respnt
Minton features in the latest docket entries. People who consider these
records of historical interest should go grab them now at the LA Superior
Court themselves, because court papers in the care of that august
institution which involve Scientology have a mysterious habit of disappearing.
11/06/2002 Partial Dismissal(not entire case) (WITH PREJUDICE AS TO
CROSSCOMPLAINT ROBERT S MINTON FILEDJULY 8.2002 AND 2 CROSS COMPLAINT(AND FIRST
AMENDED CROSS COMPLAINT7-29-2002 AGAINST LARRYWOLLERSHIEM ONLY;)
Filed by Attorney for Cross-Complainant
11/04/2002 Partial Dismissal (with Prejudice) (WITH PREJUDICEROBERT S. MINTON)
Filed by Attorney for Cross-Complainant
10/22/2002 Proof of Service (proof of personal service)
Filed by Attorney for Cross-Complainant
09/30/2002 Notice (POST TRIAL PROCEEDINGS)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner
09/13/2002 Stipulation and Order (STIPULATION AND ORDER FORDISBURSEMENT OF
INTERPLEADER FUNDSAND DISMISSAL OF CROSS-DEFENDANTHAGENBAUGH & MURPHY)
Filed by Plaintiff
09/11/2002 Stipulation and Order (STIPULATION AND ORDER FORDISMISSAL OF
CROSS-COMPLAINT ININTERPLEADER AGAINST ROBERT MINTON)
Filed by Cross-Complainant
--
ptsc
Dave Bird
>Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote...
>> The Tigger Unit has claimed on a number of occasions that Bob has sued
>> Dan Leipold.
>
>See Minton's testimony:
>
> 11 Q Okay. And one note before we get back to where we
> 12 left off before lunch. Did you retain an attorney to
> 13 represent your interests in seeking repayment from
> 14 Mr. Leipold in California?
> 15 A I did.
> 16 Q What is the attorney's name?
> 17 A Gary Soter.
> 18 Q How do you spell that?
> 19 A S?O?T?E?R.
> 20 Q And is he an attorney in California?
> 21 A He is.
> 22 Q And is he an attorney who either currently or in
> 23 the past has represented the interests of the Church of
> 24 Scientology?
> 25 A He has told me that he has never represented the
> 2 interest in our first conversation.
OK, so he hired a lawyer in connection with this dispute: do we
know whether and when proceedings were actually issued?
In<sjg2tukhf6c15dken...@4ax.com>, ptsc writes:
>Why not just go to the LA Superior Court website at
>http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org and pop in the case number, which
>is c332027.
>
>I do not believe, however, that there is an actual suit called
>"Minton v. Leipold," there was, instead, an adversary proceeding
>subsidiary to the Wollersheim suit itself, which continues to
>crawl along like Jarndyce & Jarndyce.
>Minton is listed as a cross-complainant. Soter, also in the
>list, is his attorney (or was his attorney) for the purposes of
>pursuing Leipold. All that has been settled, though. You
>might remember Gary Soter, Minton's attorney. He was
>hired by Kendrick Moxon to go after Graham Berry. Nice
>business associates Minton has now.
>
>Go ahead and call Leipold if you want, though I doubt he's
>in any mood to talk to Scientology critics after the shafting
>he got from the Scientology/Minton tag team. I have heard
>he's never going to do any Scientology litigation again.
>I don't blame him after having had a "critic" go after him
>with a Scientology lawyer.
>
>If true, yet another piece of fallout from the Minton idiocy.
--
"Mr Minton was questioned by attorney's for the dead woman's family
on three areas where the cult may have threatened him with lawsuit
or prosecution, but there was only one upon which he took the fifth
amendment: whether Cof$ threatened to report him for tax evasion."
alt.religion.scientology<tTDpR5Il...@xemu.demon.co.uk>2002apr28+
"I think MrMinton is in all manner of trouble," Judge Schaeffer said.
"Mr. Minton has perjury problems. Mr. Minton has contempt problems...
I think Mr. Minton has IRS problems."+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Court documents: http://www.whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/bob/
ptsc
>In<53183a73.02111...@posting.google.com>, Monica Pignotti:
>>Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote...
> OK, so he hired a lawyer in connection with this dispute: do we
> know whether and when proceedings were actually issued?
Yes, proceedings were brought, heard and ultimately (at least with regard
to Minton) resolved. As far as I know, the current status of the interpleader
is that at least all disputes with former lawyers and Minton have been resolved
except that possibly there is still a dispute with Ford Greene. If I recall
correctly from the secondhand information I have, Greene was claiming that
his share of the judgment had appreciated at 10% postjudgment interest
in the same manner as the judgment itself appreciated. I'm not sure whether
this part of the matter has been resolved or whether it has been at all, though
Greene's claim does not appear frivolous.
I also do not know exactly the terms of anything else. It would be nice if
someone would go down and dig through some of the relevant documents
before the really juicy ones are stolen from the courthouse like the Zolin
tapes.
ptsc
Gerry Armstrong
cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:42:47 +0000, Dave Bird <da...@xemu.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In<53183a73.02111...@posting.google.com>, Monica Pignotti:
>>>Gerry Armstrong <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote...
>
>> OK, so he hired a lawyer in connection with this dispute: do we
>> know whether and when proceedings were actually issued?
>
>Yes, proceedings were brought, heard and ultimately (at least with regard
>to Minton) resolved. As far as I know, the current status of the interpleader
>is that at least all disputes with former lawyers and Minton have been resolved
>except that possibly there is still a dispute with Ford Greene. If I recall
>correctly from the secondhand information I have, Greene was claiming that
>his share of the judgment had appreciated at 10% postjudgment interest
>in the same manner as the judgment itself appreciated. I'm not sure whether
>this part of the matter has been resolved or whether it has been at all, though
>Greene's claim does not appear frivolous.
I remember this being discussed earlier. Thaddeus Beier attended a
July 15, 2002 hearing and reported to a.r.s.
Message-ID: <3D335E03...@hammerhead.com>
I'm almost certain that the "Greene," who has or had the unsettled
claim and the demand for post-judgment interest, is Brown Greene, not
Ford Greene.
Charlie O'Reilly and Leta Schlosser, who were co-trial counsel for
Lawrence Wollersheim, were with the Brown Greene firm at that time.
I'll see if I can find the firm name from that time.
I think Leta left the Brown Greene firm and continued to represent LW
in various matters and on occasion afterward.
>
>I also do not know exactly the terms of anything else. It would be nice if
>someone would go down and dig through some of the relevant documents
>before the really juicy ones are stolen from the courthouse like the Zolin
>tapes.
>
>ptsc
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
roger gonnet
"ptsc" <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress DOT com> a écrit dans le message
de news: sjg2tukhf6c15dken...@4ax.com...
Nice
> business associates Minton has now.All your rants about Bob won"t make
us forget the evident fact that, if Minton would have not started to
fund the suit, you would'nt be paid right now;
and that if Minton had not started to fund the "The Profit" film (never
really screened or sold), Tigger and c° would not have had money to
attack him now.
and that if Minton would not have paid Ken Dandar's job first, Ken
would'nt have money to attack him now.
So, I find all these attacks from you all quite despicable, and much
damaging for Lisa's cause.
roger
Tigger
(roger gonnet) wrote ?????????
>"ptsc" <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress
> DOT com> a écrit dans le message de
> news:
>sjg2tukhf6c15dkent1d83jlr13iffjs99@4ax.
>com...
>>On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:07:21 +0100,
>> Gerry Armstrong
>><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org>
>>wrote:
>>Nice
>>>business associates Minton has
>>> now.All your rants about Bob won"t
>>> make
>us forget the evident fact that, if Minton
> would have not started to fund the suit,
> you would'nt be paid right now;
>and that if Minton had not started to fund
> the "The Profit" film (never really
> screened or sold), Tigger and c° would
> not have had money to attack him now.
WHAT MONEY? Gee did someone give "Tigger" some money? PROVE IT. How
much money does it take to post to anewsgroup and tell the truth about
Robert S. Minton, Jr.?
>and that if Minton would not have paid >Ken Dandar's job first, Ken
would'nt have
> money to attack him now.
What the HELL are you talking about? It's Minton and the Church of
Scientology who is ATTACKING Ken Dandar.
>So, I find all these attacks from you all
> quite despicable, and much damaging
> for Lisa's cause.
Well the attacks you just did here are despicable, delutional and PURE
BULLSHIT. Who has joined the COS to make the Lisa wrongful death suit
"go away" to spit on LIsa's grave and her family and to get the COS off
the hook?
ROBERT S. MINTON, JR. & STACY BROOKS YOUNG BROOKS, that's who.
Geesh, GET A BRAIN.
Tigger
>roger
***************************************************************
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
"True peace is not merely the absence of tension but the presence of
justice and brotherhood."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
**************************************************************
Garry
snip
>
> What the HELL are you talking about? It's Minton and the Church of
> Scientology who is ATTACKING Ken Dandar.
>
> >So, I find all these attacks from you all
> > quite despicable, and much damaging
> > for Lisa's cause.
>
> Well the attacks you just did here are despicable, delutional and PURE
> BULLSHIT. Who has joined the COS to make the Lisa wrongful death suit
> "go away" to spit on LIsa's grave and her family and to get the COS off
> the hook?
> ROBERT S. MINTON, JR. & STACY BROOKS YOUNG BROOKS, that's who.
No use getting all huffy over it, Tigger. The truth remains that Bob &
Stacy turned..not out of a gesture to assist Scientology... but so Bob
could unglue himself from all the litigation that surrounded him and
so he could retain the moneyed lifestyle that he was accustomed to.
For Stacy, who benefitted financially being Bob's mistress, the leaf
does not fall far from the tree.
>
> Geesh, GET A BRAIN.
Gerry Armstrong needs one. Isn't it interesting that a popular
ex-Scieno that received over $100,000 from Minton REFUSES and HIDES
from questions on what his opinion of Bob Minton is now...since the
flip-flop to Scientology..
Curious whether Gerry surmises that if he avoids the questions, he
might still be able to get some more $$$ from the Minton ATM.
Diane Richardson
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
Will you be answering questions about the part you played in
assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr. (or, if you prefer, "The Minton Unit")
in money laundering?
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Gerry Armstrong
wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:07:21 +0100, Gerry Armstrong
><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
>Will you be answering questions about the part you played in
>assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr. (or, if you prefer, "The Minton Unit")
>in money laundering?
It all depends.
And I say that without in any way accepting your term "money
laundering," since I received a legal opinion, on which I depended,
that there was no "money laundering."
And now that I've answered your question, I have one for you.
You wrote:
[Quote]
Gerry Armstrong signed an agreement with the Church of Scientology,
for which he agreed not to talk about Scientology in public in
exchange for $850,000. Gerry hid the money, spoke out against
Scientology in public, and was sued for breach of contract by the
CoS.
That has nothing to do with free speech. Gerry Armstrong signed
that contract knowing full well what he was doing. He changed his
mind, but rather than being honest and handing the money back
to the Church of Scientology, he hid it.
I doubt if there is any European country which permits individuals
to break a formal agreement without facing consequences.
[End Quote]
Message-ID: <3c5fc162...@news.giganews.com>
You are, naturally, lying.
It's a lie that I "changed my mind."
It's a lie that I signed an agreement to not talk about the cult in
public in exchange for $850,000.
It's a stupidity to say that you doubt that there is any European
country which permits individuals to break a formal agreement without
facing consequences. It's the content, and the conditions at the time
of signing, not the formalness (whatever that is) of the "agreement,"
which will determine its judicial enforceability.
But the lie I want to question you about is your lie that I "hid the
money." You repeat this lie when you state that "rather than being
honest and handing the money back" to the cult, I "hid it."
This is actually a good example -- since the subject was being
discussed here a while back -- of libel.
So my question to you is: what evidence of any kind do you have to
support your lie that I hid any of the money the Scientology cult paid
me in settlement to dismiss my case against them?
Thank you.
>
>Diane Richardson
>ref...@bway.net
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Garry
> That has nothing to do with free speech. Gerry Armstrong signed
> that contract knowing full well what he was doing. He changed his
> mind, but rather than being honest and handing the money back
> to the Church of Scientology, he hid it.
>
> I doubt if there is any European country which permits individuals
> to break a formal agreement without facing consequences.
>
> You are, naturally, lying.
>
> It's a lie that I "changed my mind."
>
> It's a lie that I signed an agreement to not talk about the cult in
> public in exchange for $850,000.
>
No, Gerry, but you did accept the money and spent it.
All your deliberate lies, misrepresentation of the facts, and spin
zone treatment thereof, is not going to change that.
You can continue to rely on your suck-up supporters on ARS, but the
time that you will be forced to accept accountability for your actions
is approaching...
Be prepared, Scam Artist.
Diane Richardson
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:01:11 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:07:21 +0100, Gerry Armstrong
>><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>
>>Will you be answering questions about the part you played in
>>assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr. (or, if you prefer, "The Minton Unit")
>>in money laundering?
>
>It all depends.
Depends on what? Your current delusional state?
>And I say that without in any way accepting your term "money
>laundering," since I received a legal opinion, on which I depended,
>that there was no "money laundering."
Acceping legal advice from Arnie Lerma is neither wise nor prudent.
>And now that I've answered your question, I have one for you.
Ah, but you haven't answered my question. It's lies like that which
trip you up every time.
>You wrote:
>
>[Quote]
>
>Gerry Armstrong signed an agreement with the Church of Scientology,
>for which he agreed not to talk about Scientology in public in
>exchange for $850,000. Gerry hid the money, spoke out against
>Scientology in public, and was sued for breach of contract by the
>CoS.
>
>That has nothing to do with free speech. Gerry Armstrong signed
>that contract knowing full well what he was doing. He changed his
>mind, but rather than being honest and handing the money back
>to the Church of Scientology, he hid it.
>
>I doubt if there is any European country which permits individuals
>to break a formal agreement without facing consequences.
>
>[End Quote]
>
>Message-ID: <3c5fc162...@news.giganews.com>
>
>You are, naturally, lying.
You are, unnaturally, delusional.
>It's a lie that I "changed my mind."
I don't believe you have enough of a mind left to change.
From the looks of your recent posts, you've reached blithering
idiot status.
>It's a lie that I signed an agreement to not talk about the cult in
>public in exchange for $850,000.
You're the liar, Gerry. It's a lie that you are a prophet. It's a
lie that God speaks to you. It's a lie that you are doing God's
work.
You are delusional. Or worse, you may be *pretending* you're
delusional.
>It's a stupidity to say that you doubt that there is any European
>country which permits individuals to break a formal agreement without
>facing consequences. It's the content, and the conditions at the time
>of signing, not the formalness (whatever that is) of the "agreement,"
>which will determine its judicial enforceability.
The stupidity here is your claiming you do God's work, Garry
Armstrong.
>But the lie I want to question you about is your lie that I "hid the
>money." You repeat this lie when you state that "rather than being
>honest and handing the money back" to the cult, I "hid it."
What did you do with that $850,000 if you didn't hide it?
I know you won't answer that, since you wriggle and squirm
like a snake any time you're asked to take responsibility for you
own actions.
It's so much easier for you to lie than tell the truth and suffer
the consequences, after all.
>This is actually a good example -- since the subject was being
>discussed here a while back -- of libel.
So sue me. Do you have the guts to sue me? I'm sure you don't.
Or will you just continue mewling and puking on usenet?
I'm willing to bet the latter. Anyone willing to bet that Prophet
Gerry will actually be brave enough to back up his words with action?
This newsgroup has seen enough of you to know you're nothing more than
a hypocritical blowhard who doesn't even believe his own shore
stories.
>So my question to you is: what evidence of any kind do you have to
>support your lie that I hid any of the money the Scientology cult paid
>me in settlement to dismiss my case against them?
It's not a lie, Gerry Armstrong. I know it's the truth, you know it's
the truth, and your God knows it's the truth.
Quit demanding that everyone else believe your lies.
>Thank you.
You are welcome. Now let's see if you have the honesty to
answer my question. I'll repeat it for you:
Will you be answering questions about the part you played in
assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr. (or, if you prefer, "The Minton Unit")
in money laundering?
Thank you.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Scott Perry
> time that you will be forced to accept accountability for your actions
> is approaching...
>
> Be prepared, Scam Artist.
Garry,
Why do you belong to a supposed Church that in your own words
has to pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars hush people up
about what would otherwise be seen as its own missteps, and why do you
belong to an organization that prefers to incite fear to silence
people, as you just attempted to do, rather than allowing people to
speak freely? Is this the type of freedom that awaits you on the
other side of the Bridge to Total Freedom? Where're ya goin' dude?
Scott Perry
Garry
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:59:13 +0100, Gerry Armstrong
> <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:01:11 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:07:21 +0100, Gerry Armstrong
> >><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>Will you be answering questions about the part you played in
> >>assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr. (or, if you prefer, "The Minton Unit")
> >>in money laundering?
> >
> >It all depends.
>
> Depends on what? Your current delusional state?
>
> >And I say that without in any way accepting your term "money
> >laundering," since I received a legal opinion, on which I depended,
> >that there was no "money laundering."
>
> Acceping legal advice from Arnie Lerma is neither wise nor prudent.
>
> >And now that I've answered your question, I have one for you.
>
> Ah, but you haven't answered my question. It's lies like that which
> trip you up every time.
In GerryKook's mindset, unless his royal flatulence deems your
question legitimate, then it is not a question.
Gerry Armstrong
ejaculated the ear-piercing screech of the Libeler Bird:
>So sue me.
Thomas Gandow
when it comes to a free speech issue including the United States?
Seems to me again to be more intelligence then intellectual what
she is viciously doing here.
She just shows, that she has no single real argument, but the
will and order to attack:
Diane Richardson wrote:
Are You really so full of hate against Gerry Armstrong?
What than, has he done to You?
Or are You simply following orders to attack,
so that You are just attacking without any thought?
Will You be allowed to answering questions about the part You played in helping OSA
(or, if You prefer, US "intelligence") in spreading lies and libels about Scientology critics?
TG
Diane Richardson
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:25:14 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>ejaculated the ear-piercing screech of the Libeler Bird:
>
>>So sue me.
I see I was right. You ARE too cowardly to do anything but squawk and
moan on the newsgroup.
So much for the courageous prophet of God.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Garry
> Isn't funny, that our librarian just reappeared on the surface,
> when it comes to a free speech issue including the United States?
> >
> > You are welcome. Now let's see if you have the honesty to
> > answer my question. I'll repeat it for you:
> >
> > Will you be answering questions about the part you played in
> > assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr. (or, if you prefer, "The Minton Unit")
> > in money laundering?
>
> Are You really so full of hate against Gerry Armstrong?
>
> What than, has he done to You?
>
> Or are You simply following orders to attack,
> so that You are just attacking without any thought?
>
>
> Will You be allowed to answering questions about the part You played in helping OSA
Lovely. Another critic posting her opinion is accused of being OSA by
a dumbfucked twit from Berlin.
Diane Richardson is as much OSA as Rev. (for revolting?) as Goosey
Gandow is a ranting neo-Nazi with nothing of value to contribute to
ARS.
Scott Perry
> > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 08:58:26 +0100, Gerry Armstrong
> > <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:25:14 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> > >ejaculated the ear-piercing screech of the Libeler Bird:
> > >
> > >>So sue me.
> >
> > I see I was right. You ARE too cowardly to do anything but squawk and
> > moan on the newsgroup.
> >
> > So much for the courageous prophet of God.
> >
> >
> > Diane Richardson
> > ref...@bway.net
> >
So, it becomes obvious that both Garry and Diane are typical
Scientologists.... Whenever questions hit home they are conditioned
like Pavlov's pet peeves to pretend to themselves and to everyone else
that they didn't hear it, and instead to try most desperately to
change the subject. Probably neither of them will respond to this
posting either. How could they, unless they tried to attack me
personally, again changing the subject as all properly conditioned
Scientologists know they must to stay In-Ethics. Is it any wonder
that Scientologists are befuddled? LRH has screwed up the way they
think so deeply that without using the old attack-bait-and-switch
tactic, or simply the bait-and-switch tactic, none of them could argue
themselves out of a wet paper bag!!! Hah!!!!!
Scott Perry
ptsc
>So, it becomes obvious that both Garry and Diane are typical
>Scientologists.... Whenever questions hit home they are conditioned
>like Pavlov's pet peeves to pretend to themselves and to everyone else
>that they didn't hear it, and instead to try most desperately to
>change the subject.
Hmm. Do you mean like you're changing the subject into baseless
accusations that the person disagreeing with you is a Scientologist?
Neither Diane Richardson nor Garry Scarff are or have ever been
Scientologists (*).
ptsc
(*) Scarff has been a paid agent of OSA but never a member
anonymous
says...
>
>Diane Richardson ... is a ranting neo-Nazi with nothing of value
>to contribute to ARS.
right on
Diane Richardson
Perry) wrote:
You are wrong. I'm sure that won't keep you from screeching "OSA OSA
OSA" at the top of your lungs, but I have never been, and never will
be, a Scientologist.
>Whenever questions hit home they are conditioned
>like Pavlov's pet peeves to pretend to themselves and to everyone else
>that they didn't hear it,
You haven't asked me any questions. Rather, I started this thread by
asking Gerry Armstrong a question, which he has clumsily dodged yet
again by attacking me.
>and instead to try most desperately to
>change the subject.
I started this thread by asking Gerry Armstrong if he was going to
answer questions about the role he played in assisting Robert S.
Minton, Jr., to launder money.
Gerry Armstrong has since desperately attempted to change the subject
by attacking me. According to your logic, I guess that makes Gerry
Armstrong the Scientologist, no?
>Probably neither of them will respond to this
>posting either.
Wrong again.
>How could they, unless they tried to attack me
>personally, again changing the subject as all properly conditioned
>Scientologists know they must to stay In-Ethics.
If you wish to keep this thread on topic, then please discuss the
subject of this thread: i.e., will Gerry Armstrong be discussing the
part he played in assisting Robert S. Minton, Jr., in laundering
money.
I'll be glad to hear your opinion on the topic of this thread.
>Is it any wonder
>that Scientologists are befuddled? LRH has screwed up the way they
>think so deeply that without using the old attack-bait-and-switch
>tactic, or simply the bait-and-switch tactic, none of them could argue
>themselves out of a wet paper bag!!! Hah!!!!!
Hah? I know Gerry Armstrong was a Scientologist and is still
immersed in Hubbard-think. Is that why Gerry Armstrong "attacks
rather than defends" any time he is asked an uncomfortable question?
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Garry
snip of comical doo-doo
>
> So, it becomes obvious that both Garry and Diane are typical
> Scientologists...
So, it becomes obvious that Scott Perry is a clueless Jehovahs Witness....
. Whenever questions hit home they are conditioned
> like Pavlov's pet peeves to pretend to themselves and to everyone else
> that they didn't hear it, and instead to try most desperately to
> change the subject.
Spinning...spinning...spinning....
Probably neither of them will respond to this
> posting either.
Wrong.
>
> Scott Perry
Voted most likely to be used for medical experiments.
Garry
Despite a copy of the staff contract I signed with the Portland org in
1979, witnessed by John Carmichael, which one of the 360 exhibits
presented in my sworn deposition in the Fishman-Geertz case.
Scott Perry
question as to why you choose to involve yourself in a group that has
to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in hush money -in your own
words- and that often prefers to frighten and intimidate its critics
into silence, rather than honestly to address their concerns. If you
could answer these questions rationally, then maybe I'd believe you
were a rational human being, but instead you choose to spin, spin,
spin...
> > Whenever questions hit home they are conditioned
> > like Pavlov's pet peeves to pretend to themselves and to everyone else
> > that they didn't hear it, and instead to try most desperately to
> > change the subject.
>
> Spinning...spinning...spinning....
>
> Probably neither of them will respond to this
> > posting either.
>
> Wrong.
> >
> > Scott Perry
>
> Voted most likely to be used for medical experiments.
Now you're joking about physical harm to myself, I see. You are the
life of the party my friend, I can't stop laughing!!! Oh, now I'm
afraid so I'll have to shut up, right? You're really a gas!!!
Scott Perry
Scott Perry
Please forgive me for assuming you were a Scientologist without
knowing for sure. After doing a little bit of web surfing about your
name, it would appear I was mistaken. I apologize. It's just that
your tone throughout this entire thread seems to be more concerned
with the pecadillos of Gerry than with the ongoing blackmail,
espionage, apparently death threats to yourself, and Lord only knows
what else being done by the Co$. That threw me. Why this focus on
something here that seems to me to be incidental to the whole purpose
of this newsgroup?
Scott Perry
Diane Richardson
Perry) wrote:
Because I do not agree with you that this is "incidental to the whole
purpose of this newsgroup."
I'm sure you realize it is okay to agree to disagree.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Scott Perry
> >of this newsgroup?
>
> Because I do not agree with you that this is "incidental to the whole
> purpose of this newsgroup."
>
> I'm sure you realize it is okay to agree to disagree.
>
>
> Diane Richardson
Good point Diane. I am somewhat familiar with the mechanism for
setting up and "chartering" a new newsgroup and I thought I would
followup your line of thought and look into the exact nature of the
"charter" of this newsgroup. Apparently back in March of 95 some
well-intended, but poorly informed Scientologist decided that perhaps
the newsgroup medium would be an excellent medium to proseletyse
Scientology, and he (or perhaps she) created and chartered
alt.religion.scientology for this express purpose.
I find nothing objectionable to this purpose or intent, any more than
I would want someone else to object to my own desire to be allowed to
express my own opinion freely, so long as I do not espouse violence.
Prior to my reading the initial welcome to the newsgroup that was
posted back in March of 1995, I had thought that ARS was started by
critics, but in fact it was started by a dedicated Scientologist. (By
the way, the initial welcome to the newsgroup is available at:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/scientology/users/welcome/ .
Prior to this, I had believed that ARS was a newsgroup that started
out as critical of the CoS and that later was infiltrated by CoS'er's.
As you know, I consider myself to be a critic of the CoS. If anyone
was interested, I would be happy to setup and charter a newsgroup such
as alt.cult.scientology as a newsgroup explicitly for the critics of
the CoS.
Android Cat
news:1a8546d1.02111...@posting.google.com...
Umm, you either need <joke> or <sarcasm> tags in your post or you need to
buy a clue. :^P
Ron of that ilk.
mimus
i- meter alert!
I saw
many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts
against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
--Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon
I'm an OT.--Lisa McPherson
If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists
posting on the Internet every few days,
we'll just run the SP's right off the system.
It will be quite simple, actually.
--Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996)
Case 5/BTLA/SP1/BAD
KSJ
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ptsc
>Good point Diane. I am somewhat familiar with the mechanism for
>setting up and "chartering" a new newsgroup and I thought I would
>followup your line of thought and look into the exact nature of the
>"charter" of this newsgroup. Apparently back in March of 95 some
>well-intended, but poorly informed Scientologist decided that perhaps
>the newsgroup medium would be an excellent medium to proseletyse
>Scientology, and he (or perhaps she) created and chartered
>alt.religion.scientology for this express purpose.
Surely you jest. A Scientologist, or anyone else for that matter, would have
found it difficult to create alt.religion.scientology in 1995 considering that
it had already existed since July 17, 1991, when it was newgrouped by
a critic.
This is the complete control message history of this newsgroup from
the semi-authoritative ISC control message archive.
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From hkk@netcom Wed Jan 11 18:13:11 1995
Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
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From: hkk@netcom
Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Message-ID: <hkkD29...@netcom.com>
Followup-To: alt.config
Sender: h...@netcom.com (Helena Kobrin)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 22:52:23 GMT
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We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
not discussed on alt.config; (3) it has the name
"scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
the Scientology religion; (4) it has been and continues to be
heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal
practices.
Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
your system.
Helena K. Kobrin
Counsel for trademark
and copyright owner
From d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu Wed Jan 11 21:34:29 1995
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From: d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu (David DeLaney)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.scientology.ctl
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: 12 Jan 1995 02:20:37 GMT
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Keywords: reversing a revenge/spite-rmgroup
Xref: uunet control:1569326
Sorry, kids; please carry out your harassment campaign against the
a.r.s newsgroup by other means. Cancellation is bad enough; rmgrouping out
of spite is Not A Good Idea, thanks. And while you're there, hkk, tell us
please who the person at Netcom that's cancelling other people's
messages in a.r.s is, why don't ya?
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology He's dead, Jim
(alternatively:
alt.religion.scientology Discussion of the belief-system Scientology)
In article <hkkD29...@netcom.com> hkk@netcom writes:
> We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
> removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
> not discussed on alt.config;
Nonsense. One doesn't rmgroup active thriving groups simply because they
were "not discussed on alt.config", *especially* not several years *after*
they were newgrouped. You've got the wrong alt.* hierarchy here, methinks.
(3) it has the name
> "scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
> misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
> the Scientology religion;
So what's your point? Are you maintaining that nobody can use a trademarked
word? Are you maintaining that nobody can attack the Scientology religion?
Again, I think you have quite the wrong alt.* hierarchy here...
(4) it has been and continues to be
> heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
> serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal practices.
Um, I think you're seriously confused; this is alt.religion.scientology,
not alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.scientologists . "Trade secret violations"?
For a *religion*? I think you have the wrong United States of America here...
Dave "And next I suppose they'll say they've copyrighted the word
'Scientology' - L. Ron would be furious!" DeLaney
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From dav...@netcom.com Wed Jan 11 23:47:35 1995
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From: dav...@netcom.com (David Guntner)
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Message-ID: <davidgD2...@netcom.com>
Organization: What a concept! :-)
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This was very likely a forgery. The From: line is botched, and a Sender:
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netcom:$ egrep alt.religion.scientology /usr/lib/news/active
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Judging from 27,000+ articles received since it was created, this is not
a newly created group; it's been around a while. The reasons he gives
for requesting a rmgroup are most likely as bogus as the "address" he was
posting from.
The orignal article was:
> Xref: netcom.com control:923876
> Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
> Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.lotto.players,alt.lotto.players.ctl
> Path: netcom.com!hkk
> From: hkk@netcom
> Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
> Message-ID: <hkkD29...@netcom.com>
> Followup-To: alt.config
> Sender: h...@netcom.com (Helena Kobrin)
> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 22:52:23 GMT
> Lines: 17
>
> We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
> removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
> not discussed on alt.config; (3) it has the name
> "scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
> misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
> the Scientology religion; (4) it has been and continues to be
> heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
> serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal
> practices.
>
> Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
> your system.
>
> Helena K. Kobrin
> Counsel for trademark
> and copyright owner
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From twpi...@quads.uchicago.edu Thu Jan 12 17:04:34 1995
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From: twpi...@quads.uchicago.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
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This newgroup message for alt.religion.scientology is a
response to the Church of Scientology's recent rmgroup.
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From c...@tower.stc.housing.washington.edu Mon Jan 16 13:12:05 1995
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From: c...@tower.stc.housing.washington.edu (Craig A. Johnston)
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In article <hkkD29...@netcom.com>, <hkk@netcom> wrote:
> We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
> removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
> not discussed on alt.config; (3) it has the name
> "scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
> misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
> the Scientology religion; (4) it has been and continues to be
> heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
> serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal
> practices.
>
> Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
> your system.
>
> Helena K. Kobrin
> Counsel for trademark
> and copyright owner
Get lost.
From s...@smudge.oro.net Mon Jan 16 22:54:39 1995
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From: s...@smudge.oro.net (Scott Jennings)
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This is in response to an attempt to remove this very active
and time honored newsgroup.
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Or alternatively...
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology He's dead, Jim
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From: rmo...@black.clarku.edu (Johnny Mnemonic)
Date: 1 Aug 95 01:14:38 GMT
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For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology Scientology beliefs and practices.
From d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu Thu Aug 3 02:44:05 1995
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Newsgroups: control,alt.religion.scientology.ctl
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In article <rmohns.9...@black.clarku.edu> rmo...@black.clarku.edu (Johnny
Mnemonic) writes:
Sorry, "Johnny"; the last nonforged attempt from Helena didn't work, and this
one won't either. Nice hacked finger info too. Sheesh.
For your newsgroups files:
alt.religion.scientology Find out the truth and *annoy* the Scientologists
Dave
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From rne...@cybercom.net Thu Aug 3 06:45:46 1995
Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!news.cybercom.net!dial1-11.cybercom.net!user
From: rne...@cybercom.net (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.config
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 06:46:52 -0400
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Communications, Inc.
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Xref: uunet control.newgroup:53
I am issuing this "newgroup" message in order to counter the
improper, and probably forged, "rmgroup" message that was issued
two days ago. The supposed author of this message,
rmo...@black.clarku.edu, claims that he did not send it.
alt.religion.scientology is a VERY high-volume newsgroup which
has existed for four years. There is no proper reason to
globally remove it. There are some improper reasons someone
might try this, and you can read more information in my web page
http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/scientology/home.html
Please support free speech on the Internet.
If this rmgroup was intended as a joke, please don't do it again.
Given the last 8 months of history involving this newsgroup,
it was not very funny.
------ Improper "rmgroup" message follows --------
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black.clarku.edu!rmohns
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Message-ID: <rmohns.9...@black.clarku.edu>
From: rmo...@black.clarku.edu (Johnny Mnemonic)
Date: 1 Aug 95 01:14:38 GMT
Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Organization: Clark University (Worcester, MA)
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------- End of improper "rmgroup" message ---------
--
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Web: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/home.html
From anon...@nyx10.cs.du.edu Sat Aug 12 01:35:17 1995
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From: anon...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (henry)
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Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
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newgroup alt.religion.scientology
to counteract the forged rmgroup which a few
stray sites accepted.
From s...@oro.net Sat Aug 12 05:25:07 1995
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From: s...@oro.net
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.scientology,alt.religion.scientology.ctl
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: 12 Aug 1995 09:21:34 GMT
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Xref: uunet control.newgroup:301
This is in response to an attempt to remove this very active
and time honored newsgroup.
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Or alternatively...
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology He's dead, Jim
From ro...@light.lightlink.com Sun May 12 22:34:13 1996
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Date: 12 May 1996 22:10:16 EDT
From: ro...@light.lightlink.com
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology.ctl
Message-ID:
<root-alt.religion.scientol...@light.lightlink.com>
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Xref: uunet control.newgroup:12742
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Refresher newgroup for alt.religion.scientology.
Homer Wilson Smith
From h...@netcom.com Fri Jun 21 05:05:13 1996
Path: uunet!inXS.uu.net!nntp.teleport.com!usenet
From: h...@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.control,alt.religion.scientology
Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:01:58 -0700
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Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:6223
Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Again, we request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
newsgroup from your system. The reson for requesting this removal
include the recent decline of activity and increase of "spam"
messages posted to this newsgroup. The existence of said newsgroup
is now very controversial and libel towards the Church of Scientology
as many of these "spams" include 'get rich quick schemes' and many
other posts strongly opposed of or disaprooved by the Church of
Scientology. Besides annoying and useless activities taking place
in said newsgroup, there continues to be a flood of articles
containing information which violates the copyright laws of the
United States against the Church of Scientology.
Commercial Internet Service Providers are strongly encouraged to
remove this group for the information contained therein will from this
time forth be considered the sole responsibility of said Internet
Provider, and information therein which requires action by law will
render said Internet Service provider the defendant of said lawsuit.
Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
your system.
Helena K. Kobrin
Counsel for trademark
and copyright owner
From ro...@light.lightlink.com Fri Jun 21 10:50:09 1996
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uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ac.net!news.bconnex.net!news.lightlink.com!light.lightlink.com!root
Date: 20 Jun 1996 10:40:16 EDT
From: ro...@light.lightlink.com
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology.ctl
Message-ID:
<root-alt.religion.scientol...@light.lightlink.com>
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Distribution: world
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Xref: uunet control.newgroup:13963
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Refresher newgroup for alt.religion.scientology.
Homer Wilson Smith
From ro...@light.lightlink.com Fri Jun 21 10:53:55 1996
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Date: 20 Jun 1996 10:40:16 EDT
From: ro...@light.lightlink.com
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology.ctl
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Xref: uunet control.newgroup:13965
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Refresher newgroup for alt.religion.scientology.
Homer Wilson Smith
From sta...@triskele.com Sat Jun 22 09:53:53 1996
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From: sta...@triskele.com (StarOwl)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: 22 Jun 1996 13:53:55 GMT
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Xref: uunet control.newgroup:13971
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology All the dirty secrets LRH didn't want you to
know
This newgroup message is issued in response to the following rmgroup
message inappropriately issued by someone claiming to be Helena Korbin,
lawyer to the criminal cult, the Church of Scientology.
>From: h...@netcom.com
>Newsgroups: alt.control,alt.religion.scientology
>Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
>Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:01:58 -0700
>Message-ID: <31CA65...@netcom.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-pdx06-34.teleport.com
> Again, we request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your system. The reson for requesting this removal
> include the recent decline of activity and increase of "spam"
> messages posted to this newsgroup. The existence of said newsgroup
> is now very controversial and libel towards the Church of Scientology
> as many of these "spams" include 'get rich quick schemes' and many
> other posts strongly opposed of or disaprooved by the Church of
> Scientology. Besides annoying and useless activities taking place
> in said newsgroup, there continues to be a flood of articles
> containing information which violates the copyright laws of the
> United States against the Church of Scientology.
> Commercial Internet Service Providers are strongly encouraged to
> remove this group for the information contained therein will from this
> time forth be considered the sole responsibility of said Internet
> Provider, and information therein which requires action by law will
> render said Internet Service provider the defendant of said lawsuit.
> Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
> your system.
> Helena K. Kobrin
> Counsel for trademark
> and copyright owner
However, the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology is alive and well,
despite an ongoing spam attack of biblical proportions. The flood
of articles containing copyrighted information on the so-called Church
(which is the subject of several ongoing threads in news.admin.
net-abuse.misc) appears to be sponsored, or at least sanctioned by
the Co$, as evidenced by this letter leaked to a.r.s earlier this
week:
>Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
>Subject: The Seigel Letter to $cientologists
>Message-ID: <4q6rad$a...@news.dgsys.com>
>
> BRIEFING TO ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS ON THE INTERNET
>
> FROM THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL
>
> (NOTE: If you know any other Scientologists on Internet or
> America Online, please e-mail this briefing to them).
>
>
> Dear Scientologist,
>
> As you know, there has been quite a bit of false and
> derogatory information going out over the Internet by a few
> detractors, squirrels etc.
>
> The Church fired a project to collect up all this
> information, and we have been in comm with some of you
> already. We have obtained legal input on some of the
> messages that individuals have posted that could be libelous
> or in violation of copyright laws.
>
> We have a plan of action that we are taking, to simply
> outcreate the entheta on these newsgroups
> (alt.religion.scientology and alt.clearing.technology), and
> get positive information to the general public on what
> Scientology is, our activities around the world, successes
> stories and LRH writings. There will also be some legal
> actions, which you will be further briefed on. Basically, as
> a group we will NO longer put up with our religion being
> criticized, harrassed and denigrated on the Internet.
>
> As a first step, I want to thank those who have posted
> positive material and handled some of the entheta that has
> been posted. This is very much appreciated!
>
> Secondly, I would like to ask your assistance in
> getting each one of you to post positive messages on the
> Internet (at least once a week, more if you like), about
> Scientology.
>
> We want to make these messages "high ground". In other
> words, don't get tempted into a two way comm with some 1.1
> jerk on the Internet. Ack him and continue to post POSITIVE
> and HIGH TONED messages that really explain what Scientology
> IS doing, how it helped you or a friend, community activities
> of the Church, Church expansion. It is easy to get into an
> opp term situation with the detractors over this system, but
> this doesn't necessarily communicate very well to the broad
> public who may read this.
>
> There is an excellent issue by LRH which is PR Series
> 27, THE ENEMY LINE. In here, LRH says that you never forward
> UP WITH A BETTER CAMPAIGN OF YOUR OWN.
>
> This should be applied whenever you post a message on
> Scientology, as we want to keep this on a theta,
> dissemination comm line to the broad public.
>
> The Church of Scientology International is getting our
> own site onto Internet, and we'll also be posting messages
> regularly in there, so if you feel you are getting attacked
> by some detractor or jerk, let us know right away, and we can
> get you material to counter whatever is being said.
>
> If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists posting on the
> Internet every few days, we'll just run the SP's right off
> the system. It will be quite simple, actually.
>
> CSI will be e-mailing around various briefings and good
> news messages to individuals for posting also, so that you
> are getting new material to post. If you need material or
> want to get your material cross-checked with us for content,
> e-mail it (to this address for now, until CSI gets our own),
> and we'll get you the material you need.
>
> The two newsgroups on the Internet are
> "alt.religion.scientology", and also
> "alt.clearing.technology" (which was set up by Homer Smith, a
> squirrel and declared SP). We need to fill up both of these
> newsgroups with positive information on the Church.
>
> For those of you with access to America Online, you
> know there is a similar situation with Scientology being
> attacked on that system. So this would apply to this
> newsgroup as well (posting positive messages on Scientology).
>
> The Planetary Dissemination Org (PDO) will be
> getting their own site onto Internet, which will be for the
> dissemination of LRH's works, WIS book, and other materials
> and campaigns. We intend to put these works onto laser
> discs, and utilize all the tools of the Internet to
> disseminate Scientology internationally.
>
> This is very exciting, and will be a new era for
> computer users as regards the subject of Scientology.
>
> Look for CSI's first posting very shortly. We WILL
> outcreate anything that is on there.
> Look for CSI's first posting very shortly. We WILL
> outcreate anything that is on there.
>
> I would like to hear from you on your ideas to make the
> Internet a safe space for Scientology to expand into.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> ML,
>
> Elaine Siegel
> Office of Special Affairs International
In other words, Korbin (or someone claiming to be Korbin) is asking
news admins, on behalf of the so-called Church of Scientology,
to rmgroup alt.religion.scientology in part because of a spam
attack sponsored or supported by the criminal organization.
I ask that news admins disregard future rmgroup messages for
alt.religion.scientology, and help keep the net open for
free discussion, both pro- and con-, on matters surrounding
the CoS.
For more information, please monitor alt.religion.scientology,
alt.religion.scientology.xenu, and news.admin.net-abuse.misc,
or visit http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html.
--
___ "...arthritis, migraine, ulcers, allergies, asthma, coronary
<*,*> difficulties...tendonitis...eye trouble...have all responded
[`-'] as inteded [to Dianetic therapy]." -- Dianetics, 1950
-"-"- sta...@triskele.com http://www.rahul.net/starowl
From sta...@triskele.com Sat Jun 22 10:04:33 1996
Path:
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From: sta...@triskele.com (StarOwl)
Newsgroups: a2i.outgoing
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: 22 Jun 1996 13:53:55 GMT
Organization: The Owl's Roost
Lines: 182
Approved: h...@netcom.com
Message-ID: <4qgttj$qrf.a2...@samba.rahul.net>
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Orig-Path:
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Orig-Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Orig-Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net
Orig-NNTP-Posting-User: starowl
Xref: uunet control.newgroup:13972
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology All the dirty secrets LRH didn't want you to
know
This newgroup message is issued in response to the following rmgroup
message inappropriately issued by someone claiming to be Helena Korbin,
lawyer to the criminal cult, the Church of Scientology.
>From: h...@netcom.com
>Newsgroups: alt.control,alt.religion.scientology
>Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
>Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:01:58 -0700
>Message-ID: <31CA65...@netcom.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-pdx06-34.teleport.com
> Again, we request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your system. The reson for requesting this removal
> include the recent decline of activity and increase of "spam"
> messages posted to this newsgroup. The existence of said newsgroup
> is now very controversial and libel towards the Church of Scientology
> as many of these "spams" include 'get rich quick schemes' and many
> other posts strongly opposed of or disaprooved by the Church of
> Scientology. Besides annoying and useless activities taking place
> in said newsgroup, there continues to be a flood of articles
> containing information which violates the copyright laws of the
> United States against the Church of Scientology.
> Commercial Internet Service Providers are strongly encouraged to
> remove this group for the information contained therein will from this
> time forth be considered the sole responsibility of said Internet
> Provider, and information therein which requires action by law will
> render said Internet Service provider the defendant of said lawsuit.
> Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
> your system.
> Helena K. Kobrin
> Counsel for trademark
> and copyright owner
However, the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology is alive and well,
despite an ongoing spam attack of biblical proportions. The flood
of articles containing copyrighted information on the so-called Church
(which is the subject of several ongoing threads in news.admin.
net-abuse.misc) appears to be sponsored, or at least sanctioned by
the Co$, as evidenced by this letter leaked to a.r.s earlier this
week:
>Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
>Subject: The Seigel Letter to $cientologists
>Message-ID: <4q6rad$a...@news.dgsys.com>
>
> BRIEFING TO ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS ON THE INTERNET
>
> FROM THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL
>
> (NOTE: If you know any other Scientologists on Internet or
> America Online, please e-mail this briefing to them).
>
>
> Dear Scientologist,
>
> As you know, there has been quite a bit of false and
> derogatory information going out over the Internet by a few
> detractors, squirrels etc.
>
> The Church fired a project to collect up all this
> information, and we have been in comm with some of you
> already. We have obtained legal input on some of the
> messages that individuals have posted that could be libelous
> or in violation of copyright laws.
>
> We have a plan of action that we are taking, to simply
> outcreate the entheta on these newsgroups
> (alt.religion.scientology and alt.clearing.technology), and
> get positive information to the general public on what
> Scientology is, our activities around the world, successes
> stories and LRH writings. There will also be some legal
> actions, which you will be further briefed on. Basically, as
> a group we will NO longer put up with our religion being
> criticized, harrassed and denigrated on the Internet.
>
> As a first step, I want to thank those who have posted
> positive material and handled some of the entheta that has
> been posted. This is very much appreciated!
>
> Secondly, I would like to ask your assistance in
> getting each one of you to post positive messages on the
> Internet (at least once a week, more if you like), about
> Scientology.
>
> We want to make these messages "high ground". In other
> words, don't get tempted into a two way comm with some 1.1
> jerk on the Internet. Ack him and continue to post POSITIVE
> and HIGH TONED messages that really explain what Scientology
> IS doing, how it helped you or a friend, community activities
> of the Church, Church expansion. It is easy to get into an
> opp term situation with the detractors over this system, but
> this doesn't necessarily communicate very well to the broad
> public who may read this.
>
> There is an excellent issue by LRH which is PR Series
> 27, THE ENEMY LINE. In here, LRH says that you never forward
> UP WITH A BETTER CAMPAIGN OF YOUR OWN.
>
> This should be applied whenever you post a message on
> Scientology, as we want to keep this on a theta,
> dissemination comm line to the broad public.
>
> The Church of Scientology International is getting our
> own site onto Internet, and we'll also be posting messages
> regularly in there, so if you feel you are getting attacked
> by some detractor or jerk, let us know right away, and we can
> get you material to counter whatever is being said.
>
> If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists posting on the
> Internet every few days, we'll just run the SP's right off
> the system. It will be quite simple, actually.
>
> CSI will be e-mailing around various briefings and good
> news messages to individuals for posting also, so that you
> are getting new material to post. If you need material or
> want to get your material cross-checked with us for content,
> e-mail it (to this address for now, until CSI gets our own),
> and we'll get you the material you need.
>
> The two newsgroups on the Internet are
> "alt.religion.scientology", and also
> "alt.clearing.technology" (which was set up by Homer Smith, a
> squirrel and declared SP). We need to fill up both of these
> newsgroups with positive information on the Church.
>
> For those of you with access to America Online, you
> know there is a similar situation with Scientology being
> attacked on that system. So this would apply to this
> newsgroup as well (posting positive messages on Scientology).
>
> The Planetary Dissemination Org (PDO) will be
> getting their own site onto Internet, which will be for the
> dissemination of LRH's works, WIS book, and other materials
> and campaigns. We intend to put these works onto laser
> discs, and utilize all the tools of the Internet to
> disseminate Scientology internationally.
>
> This is very exciting, and will be a new era for
> computer users as regards the subject of Scientology.
>
> Look for CSI's first posting very shortly. We WILL
> outcreate anything that is on there.
> Look for CSI's first posting very shortly. We WILL
> outcreate anything that is on there.
>
> I would like to hear from you on your ideas to make the
> Internet a safe space for Scientology to expand into.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> ML,
>
> Elaine Siegel
> Office of Special Affairs International
In other words, Korbin (or someone claiming to be Korbin) is asking
news admins, on behalf of the so-called Church of Scientology,
to rmgroup alt.religion.scientology in part because of a spam
attack sponsored or supported by the criminal organization.
I ask that news admins disregard future rmgroup messages for
alt.religion.scientology, and help keep the net open for
free discussion, both pro- and con-, on matters surrounding
the CoS.
For more information, please monitor alt.religion.scientology,
alt.religion.scientology.xenu, and news.admin.net-abuse.misc,
or visit http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html.
--
___ "...arthritis, migraine, ulcers, allergies, asthma, coronary
<*,*> difficulties...tendonitis...eye trouble...have all responded
[`-'] as inteded [to Dianetic therapy]." -- Dianetics, 1950
-"-"- sta...@triskele.com http://www.rahul.net/starowl
From ro...@light.lightlink.com Sun Jul 7 14:07:12 1996
Path:
uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ac.net!news.bconnex.net!news.lightlink.com!light.lightlink.com!root
Date: 06 Jul 1996 10:40:16 EDT
From: ro...@light.lightlink.com
Subject: An Experiment, please ignore
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Newsgroups: alt.config
Message-ID: <07-Jul-1996...@light.lightlink.com>
Approved: root
Distribution: world
Lines: 6
Xref: uunet control.newgroup:14480
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Refresher newgroup for alt.religion.scientology.
Homer Wilson Smith
From ro...@light.lightlink.com Sun Jul 7 14:18:58 1996
Path:
uunet!inXS.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ac.net!news.bconnex.net!news.lightlink.com!light.lightlink.com!root
Date: 06 Jul 1996 10:40:16 EDT
From: ro...@light.lightlink.com
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology.ctl
Message-ID:
<root-alt.religion.scientol...@light.lightlink.com>
Approved: root
Distribution: world
Lines: 6
Xref: uunet control.newgroup:14481
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Refresher newgroup for alt.religion.scientology.
Homer Wilson Smith
From rne...@thecia.net Tue Jan 13 11:32:00 1998
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From: rne...@thecia.net (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: fr.soc.divers,fr.soc.internet,fr.soc.religion
Subject: Cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:29:16 -0500
Organization: Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
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Approved: rne...@thecia.net (Ron Newman)
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I am sending this newgroup to reverse the effect of an erroneous "rmgroup"
that was accidentally issued by migu...@france-cybermedia.comNOSPAM
earlier this morning, and which is appended below.
Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
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From: migu...@france-cybermedia.comNOSPAM (Miguelito)
Newsgroups: fr.soc.divers,fr.soc.internet,fr.soc.religion
Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Followup-To: fr.soc.internet
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 05:54:20 +0100
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Il y a exactement 3 ans, la Scientologie faisait la plus grosse connerie
de toute son histoire.
From da...@home.net.nz Fri Jan 16 04:26:02 1998
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From: da...@home.net.nz (David Farrar)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.scientology
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:15:48 GMT
Organization: is much over rated
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For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
This long standing well used group was rmgrouped in error by a french
newsadmin.
He has asked for people to re newgroup it so I am. The post is below:
From: migu...@france-cybermedia.comNOSPAM (Miguelito)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Please ignore rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:03:21 +0100
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I made a blunder throwing a cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
yesterday.
I cancelled the message, but it seems it was processed anyway.
Please ignore the rmgroup if you're a news admin.
Some people could also consider posting "booster" newgroup messages to
correct it.
Sorry for the inconveniance.
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From: kew...@teleport.com (Keith)
Newsgroups: control.rmgroup
Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
Expires: 31 december 1998
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From ne...@fh-aachen.de Wed Jul 1 00:55:53 1998
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
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Date: 1 Jul 1998 07:37:26 GMT
Organization: University of Applied Sciences Aachen Germany
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