Connecting a External USB DSL Modem to a router
bkerwin
I am new to the DSL Technology, but I have a question.
How can I connect a USB DSL modem to a router for internet sharing? I am
currently running two Win98 Laptops, and Enternet 300. My connection is
thru Ameritech and is dynamic.
what hardware will I need? and or is there a way to convert the USB from the
modem to Ethernet and us a Lynksys or Netgear DSL router?
Thanks
Brian
Home email: dkerwinz @ameritech.net
Work email: bke...@efunds.com
Josh Weigner
http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/homeconnect/homenetworking/products/p34_key.h
tml
josh
"bkerwin" <dker...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Mike Andruschak
<lemonad...@enter.net> wrote:
>3com makes a USB to Ethernet converter. Here's the link:
>http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/homeconnect/homenetworking/products/p34_key.h
>tml
>
>josh
That won't work.... That is another USB device -- both it and the
modem need to connect to a USB controller and send data thru that
controller to the computer.
>"bkerwin" <dker...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>news:3992c03a$0$60929$3929...@news.execpc.com...
>> Hello
>>
>> I am new to the DSL Technology, but I have a question.
>> How can I connect a USB DSL modem to a router for internet sharing? I am
>> currently running two Win98 Laptops, and Enternet 300. My connection is
>> thru Ameritech and is dynamic.
>>
>> what hardware will I need? and or is there a way to convert the USB from
>the
>> modem to Ethernet and us a Lynksys or Netgear DSL router?
AFAIK there is no way to hook the USB modem without the comuter first.
What you need to do is replace the USB modem with an ethernet modem
such as a Westell Wirespeed.
Kimos
The 3Comm product below seems to cost $185.00 Does anyone
know of a USB to ethernet converter? Small little rad shack
like thingy? female USB to male ethernet *grins* At $185
from 3COmm I am thinking I need to send back PacBell's modem
and shop for a new one? All you folks out there received
ethernet ready modems from your providers? Does this mean I
am automatically in the 20% who dislike LinkyB241's? (can't
even plug into the back of it *chuckles*)
In article <KKHk5.100$kM2....@newshog.newsread.com>, <lemonad...@enter.net> says...
> 3com makes a USB to Ethernet converter. Here's the link:
> http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/homeconnect/homenetworking/products/p34_key.h
> tml
>
> josh
>
> "bkerwin" <dker...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:3992c03a$0$60929$3929...@news.execpc.com...
> > Hello
> >
> > I am new to the DSL Technology, but I have a question.
> > How can I connect a USB DSL modem to a router for internet sharing? I am
> > currently running two Win98 Laptops, and Enternet 300. My connection is
> > thru Ameritech and is dynamic.
> >
> > what hardware will I need? and or is there a way to convert the USB from
> the
> > modem to Ethernet and us a Lynksys or Netgear DSL router?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Home email: dkerwinz @ameritech.net
> > Work email: bke...@efunds.com
> >
> >
>
>
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Kimos
as it will not be possible to network from...
I noticed the Westy Wirespeed is listed at $279.00 So... Do I send
my $100. PacBell USB modem back and spend my router/hub money for
a useable networkable modem... Any listeners in the LA area who use
another provider and received ethernet modems? Or any secrets to
finding a $100. ethernet dsl modem?
In article <39942...@nntp2.nac.net>, <arogg@-NOSPAM-earthlink.net> says...
Brian Kerwin
(already have), I can than is the ethernet adaptor to connect to a DSL router?
Does this sound correct?
Thank you
Brian
Mike Andruschak wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:26:18 GMT, "Josh Weigner"
> <lemonad...@enter.net> wrote:
>
> >3com makes a USB to Ethernet converter. Here's the link:
> >http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/homeconnect/homenetworking/products/p34_key.h
> >tml
> >
> >josh
>
> That won't work.... That is another USB device -- both it and the
> modem need to connect to a USB controller and send data thru that
> controller to the computer.
>
> >"bkerwin" <dker...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> >news:3992c03a$0$60929$3929...@news.execpc.com...
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I am new to the DSL Technology, but I have a question.
> >> How can I connect a USB DSL modem to a router for internet sharing? I am
> >> currently running two Win98 Laptops, and Enternet 300. My connection is
> >> thru Ameritech and is dynamic.
> >>
> >> what hardware will I need? and or is there a way to convert the USB from
> >the
> >> modem to Ethernet and us a Lynksys or Netgear DSL router?
>
Mike Andruschak
<dker...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>So I can connect the USB modem and the 3com device to a Belkin 4 port hub
>(already have), I can than is the ethernet adaptor to connect to a DSL router?
>
>Does this sound correct?
>
>Thank you
No, the hub just extends the USB bus. You are still dealing with
devices that need to talk to the controller in the computer. AFAIK
there is no way to go from a USB modem to ethernet other than thru a
computer.
Brian Kerwin
What if I connect my USB DSL modem to the USB port on my PC (laptop), and that use
my PCMICA 10/100 Ethernet net card and run CAT5 to a DSL router?
Will that get the signal from the DSL Modem and allow me to share my connction?
John Duncan
> OK
>
> What if I connect my USB DSL modem to the USB port on my PC (laptop), and that use
> my PCMICA 10/100 Ethernet net card and run CAT5 to a DSL router?
> Will that get the signal from the DSL Modem and allow me to share my connction?
Well--yes, but you are using an A-bomb to kill a fly, and STILL don't have all the necessary components. The USB modem connects to a single computer--period. You can, however, use connection sharing software technology on that single computer to share the connection with other computers on your LAN. ICS, included with Win98SE and above, and W2K and above, is one such software alternative, and there are others, if you are running an OS other than that, or don't like ICS.
When you get that running, all you need for a small network would be a standard Ethernet hub--10Mbps will do for DSL--unless you intend to do a lot of local file sharing as well, in which case 100Mbps and a switch instead of a hub would be better. In any case, it doesn't have to be a DSL router, because the single computer connected directly to the DSL will fill that function, all you need is an ordinary hub, or for a larger LAN network, a switch.
However, a USB DSL connection will not be as robust as an Ethernet DSL connection, and is, in fact, more suited to use on a single computer. Therefore, sending back the USB modem, in exchange for an Ethernet modem/router, would be a better solution than the above. The above, however, should work--if you are already stuck with a USB solution.
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Mike Andruschak
<dker...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>OK
>
>What if I connect my USB DSL modem to the USB port on my PC (laptop), and that use
>my PCMICA 10/100 Ethernet net card and run CAT5 to a DSL router?
>Will that get the signal from the DSL Modem and allow me to share my connction?
Probably, You would have to run some sort of NAT software on the
laptop and would not need the hardware router. However I would think
getting a DSL-ethernet modem + router would be cheaper than tieing up
a laptop.
www.dslreports.com has a good section on sharing internet connections.
Patricio
rebate at Circuit City.
Is that what you are looking for?
"Kimos" <arogg@-NOSPAM-earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I have the same problem... PacBell sent me a USB modem...
> The 3Comm product below seems to cost $185.00 Does anyone
> know of a USB to ethernet converter? Small little rad shack
> like thingy? female USB to male ethernet *grins* At $185
> from 3COmm I am thinking I need to send back PacBell's modem
> and shop for a new one? All you folks out there received
> ethernet ready modems from your providers? Does this mean I
> am automatically in the 20% who dislike LinkyB241's? (can't
> even plug into the back of it *chuckles*)
>
>
>
>
> In article <KKHk5.100$kM2....@newshog.newsread.com>,
<lemonad...@enter.net> says...
>
> > 3com makes a USB to Ethernet converter. Here's the link:
> >
http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/homeconnect/homenetworking/products/p34_key.h
> > tml
> >
> > josh
> >
> > "bkerwin" <dker...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:3992c03a$0$60929$3929...@news.execpc.com...
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I am new to the DSL Technology, but I have a question.
> > > How can I connect a USB DSL modem to a router for internet sharing? I
am
> > > currently running two Win98 Laptops, and Enternet 300. My connection
is
> > > thru Ameritech and is dynamic.
> > >
> > > what hardware will I need? and or is there a way to convert the USB
from
> > the
> > > modem to Ethernet and us a Lynksys or Netgear DSL router?
> > >
Mike Bartlett
I, like you, have moved and am unable to renew my US West/Qwest DSL
connection. I seem to recall you waxing eloquent about the wonders of
Speakeasy. Can you give me some specifics? Were they able to use the
existing phone line and give you a shared line option? Which of their
packages did you take?
I have a cpl of other options, Covad thru another local provider or
Cox@home, but am leaning towards speakeasy based on what I remember of your
experience. Thanks for any input you can give.
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"Brian Kerwin" <dker...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> OK
>
> What if I connect my USB DSL modem to the USB port on my PC (laptop), and
that use
> my PCMICA 10/100 Ethernet net card and run CAT5 to a DSL router?
> Will that get the signal from the DSL Modem and allow me to share my
connction?
Well--yes, but you are using an A-bomb to kill a fly, and STILL don't have
Kimos
to see this gizmo. Most recent reading I've done would indicate that the
USB modem is not meant to be attached thru the ethernet port (lacking the
right hardware guts).
By saying you bought this device am I to assume you in fact have used it to
plug a USB modem into a router/hub instead of sending the modem direct to
the computer's serial city? (translation: computer's USB port... had such a
nice ring to it... had to say it *g*)
Patricio <Patricio@_nospam_.com> wrote in message
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Titan6400
absolutely sure) a device that were capable of translating the USB signal
into ethernet, somehow able to figure out what data was trying to be sent
along, and somehow make that useful on the other side of the connection
(considering they're two entirely different kinds of ports, for different
things, at different speeds, using different types of wires (modular vs. USB
propriatary)) that it would cost much more than $4.99.
All IMHO, of course.
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Kimos
to PacBell he reflects on what Titan said and imagines what a wonderful
world
it would be if everyone's DSL problems could be solved for $4.95 at Circuit
City.
*sigh*
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Patricio
adapter
is a NIC rather than a USB to Ethernet converter.
I'm using Win98 ICS with three computers, using a USB SpeedStream 4060 modem
and a Hub, with no major problems (yet).
Regards,
Patricio.
"Kimos" <ar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I dunno? Boy I am confused now... But I will be hitting Circuit City
today
> to see this gizmo. Most recent reading I've done would indicate that the
> USB modem is not meant to be attached thru the ethernet port (lacking the
> right hardware guts).
> By saying you bought this device am I to assume you in fact have used it
to
> plug a USB modem into a router/hub instead of sending the modem direct to
> the computer's serial city? (translation: computer's USB port... had such
a
> nice ring to it... had to say it *g*)
>
>
John Duncan
"Mike Bartlett" <Michael_...@intuit.com> wrote in message news:8n3nb1$mu5$1...@news.intuit.com...
> John,
>
> I, like you, have moved and am unable to renew my US West/Qwest DSL
> connection. I seem to recall you waxing eloquent about the wonders of
> Speakeasy. Can you give me some specifics? Were they able to use the
> existing phone line and give you a shared line option? Which of their
> packages did you take?
>
> I have a cpl of other options, Covad thru another local provider or
> Cox@home, but am leaning towards speakeasy based on what I remember of your
> experience. Thanks for any input you can give.
I cover part of this in the "Sprint ION (Does it use..." thread, to which I just added a rather detailed post. Basically, SpeakEasy gets its high marks because while DSL is still a young technology, and WILL have problems, SE is one of the FEW ISPs that will actually take OWNERSHIP of the problem, and help you persue it to a solution, even if it is not actually in THEIR leg of the three-legged-stool (ILEC providing the physical line, DSL provider connecting you to.., the ISP--SE--which connects you to the internet).
Even though I didn't have their service at the time (I do now), I was impressed (and still am) by the fact that they WANT to be the one you call--even for stuff that isn't their direct problem. Their attitude is that you PAY them, THEY have a responsibility to fix any problems. That is a VERY refreshing attitude, in a competitive landscape where most are always pointing the finger elsewhere. (Even when they are all the same company, as I am sure you found out with USW, it doesn't stop the finger pointing. <sad, but true>)
In addition, I know of no other company that has a president that has personally responded, on occasion, in the newsgroups. THAT ALONE says A LOT to me!!
As I mention in the other thread, SE isn't immune from problems, and in fact, currently has two. Covad is presently in the midst of a nationwide upgrade, that hasn't gone quite as smooth as planned, and SE is having problems with its main Seattle Redback router. Never-the-less, there have been both regular posts to the newsgroups, and e-mails, keeping us informed of the situation. In addition, SE has a network weather page that actually WORKS (unlike that page on USWest.net that ALWAYS says the system is TOTALLY functional--you know it isn't when you can't get the page <sour grin>). Oh--and SE is the only ISP that **I** know of that has VOLUNTEERED to suspend payment on accounts when things weren't right. Most wait for YOU to call them, if they do it at all. You have already likely checked out their terms of service, but that too, I find a refreshing change.
As for the constant newsgroup problems on USWest, well, SE has SEVERAL contract servers, one through Giganews, Two through UsenetServer, and another that I haven't tried. All three of the ones I HAVE tried had MORE groups, and BETTER retention, and while it seems the GigaNews account doesn't have enough SE slots (you often can't get in--authentication error, indicative of all the allowed SE connections being taken), I haven't had that problem with the UNS server I generally use. Even though my plan says my top DSL download rate is 608, slightly less than the 640 I had with USWest, I NEVER saw the USWest news server do what UNS does regularly, speedwise, on the binary groups. (I had problems Friday nite, but that may have been something else, and the speed was back up yesterday.)
As expected, the only real bad point would be for heavy gamers, since the PoP IS in Seattle right now, and I am in Phoenix, meaning a 200ms ping to the gateway. However, the LA PoP is supposed to be coming on line this week, barring problems, and that should reduce pings significantly. The also have PoPs scheduled for SF and Denver, but I expect the LA PoP will still be best for me. And, since I don't do much online gaming, and prefer strategy to shoot-em-ups anyway, even just locally, that point affects me very little. For other things, I generally don't notice the latency, probably because SE has better routing from the PoP than USW EVER did (as I expect many ISPs do--USW's routing was rather lower than average, I believe, remember the ping spike threads?? gaming would likely be better on SE, DESPITE the high gateway pings).
Oh--the Covad/SE modems (Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5260, here) are BRIDGED!! NO PPP/NAT PROBLEMS!! (Of course, you DO have the security problems that NAT blocked, but you can cope with those other ways, and YOU control it.) I personally sort of miss NAT, but I know MANY wouldn't!
They DID tell me the basic services DO use PPPoE, but that isn't quite the problem that our PPPoA was, because in most cases each computer runs its own client, meaning each gets its own IP, and it IS a common technology, so there ARE Linux, etc, clients available, and you can get routers with a client built-in--which essentially makes them the same as the PPPoA we were familiar with on the 675. AND, the static IP/non-PPPoE "plus" solution I went with is only $10 more, with two static IPs and a bunch of other extras (shell account, 30 hrs dialup, more), rather than having to pay $30-plus for the 8-pack that USWest offered.
As far as piggyback DSL over voice lines, Covad is still upgrading its network for that, and it wasn't available yet to me when I signed up last month. And as for the specific package I have--Essentials Plus--608/128 (same as Essentials Basic, but with the extras above), for $60 monthly.
Foxbat
"Titan6400" <tita...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Heh, I'm reasonably sure that if there were (and there might be, I'm not
> absolutely sure) a device that were capable of translating the USB signal
> into ethernet, somehow able to figure out what data was trying to be sent
> along, and somehow make that useful on the other side of the connection
> (considering they're two entirely different kinds of ports, for different
> things, at different speeds, using different types of wires (modular vs.
USB
> propriatary)) that it would cost much more than $4.99.
> All IMHO, of course.
Aside from many reasons why this won't work, there is one more to consider,
USB DSL modems (just like USB phone modems) are usually WinModems which
means that the modem itself only do part of the job, the rest is done in
software driver. That's why there are cheaper.
Foxbat