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Fernando P. Malard

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Oct 16, 2003, 8:55:38 AM10/16/03
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Hello,

Can I use the Windows Media Player Skins technology inside my particular
VC++ application?

My application has nothing to do with Media Player but I would like to
enabled skins on this application.

If not, could you point me to a good skin toolkit?
I have tried SkinMagic (www.appspeed.com) and SkinCrafter
(www.skincrafter.com) but they are very slow...

If so, is there any sample showing how to use Windows Media SDK to enable
skin support on a VC++ (or VC.NET) application?

Regards,
Fernando.


Jim Travis [ms]

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Oct 17, 2003, 1:50:25 AM10/17/03
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Well, the RemoteSkin sample demonstrates making the UI a skin, but why would
you want to do that if you weren't using Windows Media Player?


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Fernando P. Malard

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Oct 17, 2003, 9:30:17 AM10/17/03
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Dear Jim,

I think that Windows MediaPlayer Skin is fast and reliable.
As I mentioned, other skin packages are too slow and does not have a good
interface.

I'm wondering if the Skin libraries of Windows Media SDK can be used
separately of player stuff. If so, I can use the same skin approach inside
my stand alone application.

So what I would like to know is that is there a way to use only the Windows
Media Player Skin technology and, of course, if I can use it with no license
limitation.

Kindest regards,
Fernando.

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Jim Travis [ms]

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Oct 17, 2003, 12:36:22 PM10/17/03
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No, not possible. Sorry.


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Ted McIsec

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Oct 22, 2003, 7:12:02 AM10/22/03
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Hi there,

Having been interested in applications' skinning for quite an amount
of time, I would say that all skin engines make any software slower.
Another thing to mention, is the difference between skining developed
for a particular app and universal engines. When implementing
something which is fully integrated in a certain product, programmers
do adapt it completely for the app needs, and pay no attention to the
features, which are not used. This allows not to hook/use/allocate
unnecessary resources. E.g. what for is a developing of toolbars
skining if there is no toolbars in the programm, and so forth.
Therefore, the usage of "many-sided" engines may be slower (but not
have to), on the other hands the development of your own skins is a
time-consuming operation.
Comparing the existing skin toolkits I would prefer SkinCrafter. Here
is a short explaination:
- DirectSkin - is pretty expencive (500$ - smth like introduction
version, 1000$ - the cheapest redestributable version)
- ActiveSkin - this is cheaper (100$) but has no support for a number
of controls (trees, edits, etc.), aslo it does own handling of
standard messages, which can be intolerable for some situations.
- SkinCrafter - the price is 400$ but all the controls are supported,
which can let to use it almost in all kinds of projects.
- SkinMagic - 90$, but is narrow aimed for C++ usage

Also need to say about quite actual theme, about .NET platform
(WindowsForms). Here mentioned SkinMagic does not work anyhow at all
(it is C++ specialised library) and SkinCrafter is the only library
available at the moment. Maybe that's because ActiveSkin and
DirectSkin underestimate the spreading of .NET or may be not.

Best regards,
Ted

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