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15527...@***.home.ne.jp

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Jan 1, 2003, 4:01:34 AM1/1/03
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Does anyone know about these? They make claims that you can get electronic
items for free. You pretend to be a supplier, or something. Here's one
auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30019&item=1948632289

Thanks,
Eric


Richard Ward

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Jan 1, 2003, 7:45:27 AM1/1/03
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Before you worry about it too much, think for just a moment. If you're
a salesman for a multibillion dollar company manufacturing plasma
television sets, and someone you've never heard of calls or writes your
company and claims to be a retailer thinking about selling your line,
and asks you to ship them a free sample plasma television to their home
address, how long do you think you're going to keep your job if you
actually do it? It's only a small step away from calling up Ford,
telling them you want to become a dealer, and asking them to send you a
free Explorer as a sample, and just about as silly.

times2...@times2bbs.com

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Jan 1, 2003, 11:37:36 AM1/1/03
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Richard Ward states it very clearly for yuo. ANd do a search in
groups.google.com. I posted the info they are selling in here so all can see
what type of bogus shit that is.


Jonathan Sachs

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Jan 1, 2003, 11:58:09 AM1/1/03
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I noticed these in "Computers & Office Products:Monitors:LCD/Flat
Panel:18-inch or larger" when I started watching it a few days ago. I
didn't follow one up to see what's the come-on was, but I did wonder
whether eBay will take action if this sort of thing is brought to its
attention.

From the thread I gather that similar "items" are appearing in other
categories as well.

Send email to jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

Jo

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Jan 1, 2003, 12:40:48 PM1/1/03
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On QXL.com when these auctions started overcrowding the listings (and that's
not hard on QXL !) One seller bought the info and posted the link for all to
download on a forum ! Worked a treat for a while - but obviously ebay too
big a place for such tricks.
Happy New Year all!
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Jo
www.curiosityjos.co.uk


Caroball

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Jan 1, 2003, 1:50:34 PM1/1/03
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>Subject: Re: What are these "RECEIVE FREE PRODUCTS INFO" auctions?
>From: times2...@times2bbs.com
>Date: 1/1/03 10:37 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <kPEQ9.520074$WL3.134389@rwcrnsc54>

>
>1552774001@***.home.ne.jp wrote:
>> Does anyone know about these? They make claims that you can get
>> electronic items for free. You pretend to be a supplier, or
>> something. Here's one auction:
>>
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30019&item=1948632289
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric


Just another scam to Email you a list of wholesalers - most prices will be
higher than local discounters and free goods is a pie-in-the-sky hope.

John

Annette

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Jan 1, 2003, 3:03:17 PM1/1/03
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Hi, I've been lurking here a few days now and after reading this message decided to Google.  The original post by times2bbs is at this link here: 
Thanks for the info, it's pretty silly to think manufacturers would actually do this.  Annette
 
 

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I know it sux. They have them in Every catagory!!

I am getting tired of seeing them myself.
Ebay will cancel my auction for a link to my other auctions being 10 pixels
to wide, but they won't tough these scammers no matter how many times they
get turned in.


Mac McDougald

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Jan 1, 2003, 5:12:39 PM1/1/03
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In article <7EJQ9.525249$P31.170972@rwcrnsc53>,
times2...@times2bbs.com says...

> Ebay will cancel my auction for a link to my other auctions being 10 pixels
> to wide, but they won't tough these scammers no matter how many times they
> get turned in.

You mean, if you use a graphic to link to your other auctions, it has a
pixel dimensions limit? That's a new one on me.

Mac

Ben

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Jan 1, 2003, 6:00:27 PM1/1/03
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These sellers sell different versions of these "Free electronics" programs.
I was able to get my hands on a copy, and it doesnt seem to be bullshit,
however it fails to clearly tell you that you have to have a registered
company to even "try" to get free stuff. It is definitly not illegal unless
you misrepresent yourself as a company, looking to resell a manufacturers
products. It is just a 1 meg exe file (ebook) and a synopsis page of how it
works. So there is a detailed version and a summary version. I have both.
In any case, leave a message under this thread, and I will send you the
info.
It's not like im looking to resell it, so ask away!

Best Regards,
Ben


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Mike

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Jan 1, 2003, 6:33:31 PM1/1/03
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I'm in for a copy if you dont mind, thanks


cdr [at] tele2 [dot] co [dot] uk


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Mike

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I'm in for a copy if you dont mind, thanks


cdr [at] tele2 [dot] co [dot] uk


Mike
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times2...@times2bbs.com

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sure does, heres the spit from ebay on that one. I actually had so much
problems over this one that I refused to post another auction untill they
preappoved one. heres an exert from that email about it....
I suggest you go check it out yourself Mac.

====
I have reviewed your current *snipped* listing and have found it in
compliance guidelines. However, while reviewing your listing I did find that
it contains a couple links that will need to be amended in the future.

First, your banner link to your eBay auctions is larger than the permitted
size of 88 x 33 pixels. Secondly, following our third party credit
guidelines, you are only permitted one Square Trade link in your listing. In
your future listings, please make the necessary changes to the violations
mentioned above.

More information regarding our diverse listing guidelines can be found
at the following page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-list.html


15527...@***.home.ne.jp

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Jan 1, 2003, 8:17:29 PM1/1/03
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Hey...

Add me to the list, please...heheh

ericl...@hotmail.com


THanks,
Eric


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Ben

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Jan 1, 2003, 8:18:55 PM1/1/03
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I sent it to you...lemmie know if you got it Mike

Ben

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Ben

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Jan 1, 2003, 8:40:46 PM1/1/03
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Sent it to you Eric...


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Ben

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oneho...@hot.doc

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Jan 2, 2003, 10:57:15 PM1/2/03
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:00:27 GMT, "Ben" <rainb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>These sellers sell different versions of these "Free electronics" programs.
>I was able to get my hands on a copy, and it doesnt seem to be bullshit,
>however it fails to clearly tell you that you have to have a registered
>company to even "try" to get free stuff. It is definitly not illegal unless
>you misrepresent yourself as a company, looking to resell a manufacturers
>products. It is just a 1 meg exe file (ebook) and a synopsis page of how it
>works. So there is a detailed version and a summary version. I have both.
>In any case, leave a message under this thread, and I will send you the
>info.
>It's not like im looking to resell it, so ask away!
>


Yes, could you post it for everyone. Thanks!!!!!

Ben

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Jan 2, 2003, 11:30:45 PM1/2/03
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Here is the info...or summary anyway...can't post exe file...DO NOT DO
IT...just posting to relieve your curiousity:

Dear Customer,

Just as promised, here is the one page synopsis of how the
program works.

Suppose that you wanted to get a Digital Camera that costs $500 in retail
stores. The same Digital Camera only costs the company about $20-$30 to
manufacture. The entire markup is from the research and other technologies
that have gone into the Digital Camera. It's the same for higher (as well
as lower) priced items as well. So as you can see it is no big loss for the
company to give away a sample of the Digital Camera that is only worth
$20-$30 to them. In return for sending you the camera, they hope that you
will buy from them in the future as a reseller or distributor, as well as
spread the word about the company. The program works awesome if you are a
small business or if you are interested in selling electronic merchandise.
However, it will work under any circumstance.

The whole concept of getting free products is based on the idea that by
sending potential customers free samples, companies will persuade you to buy
their products in the future. If you become a distributor or intend to start
selling a manufacturer's products, then companies are more than happy to
send you a free sample - even if it retails for $2500 or more. These free
samples are yours to keep for your evaluation, FOREVER. Usually all it takes
is a request to a manufacturer for a price quote and some sample units, but
I will outline below exactly what to write to the manufacturer.
Manufacturers receive and honor hundreds of requests for samples every day
and send them out on a daily basis to potential distributors. All you need
to do is contact the manufacturer by mail or email, and identify yourself,
your company (if applicable), request more information on the product you
are interested in, ask for the PPU (Price Per Unit) for a certain quantity,
and ask for a sample or two. You can set up a free shipping account at
FedEx or UPS online, and send your account number with it to give them an
even cheaper way to ship the product, which means they are more likely to
give you a free sample if they don't have to pay shipping. Again, some
companies don't care and pay for shipping themselves. Please look at the
accompanying document example.doc for an example of what to write to the
manufacturer. I do not advocate lying to the manufacturer. If you do not
have a company please don't write that, just say you are interested in
reselling their products.

Great places to start looking for manufacturers to request free samples
from:

http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Business_to_Business/Trade/ -
Great directory for companies and resources.

http://www.globalsources.com/ - This is where I began. There are thousands
of products from countries all over the world piled into a neat directory.
I'd say about a half of the products listed have a "Request Sample" link
directly under the picture of the product.

*NOTE - Below is NOT any of my information.

For comparison sake, here is the location for the information that most
other eBay sellers are auctioning off. Don't waste too much time on it, as
it is not very organized and uninformative e-books. BEWARE - there are
popup windows all over the place:

http://www.directlube.com/ebaytheeasyway


Chris Siegler

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Jan 3, 2003, 1:39:09 AM1/3/03
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Ben wrote:
> These sellers sell different versions of these "Free electronics" programs.
> I was able to get my hands on a copy, and it doesnt seem to be bullshit,
> however it fails to clearly tell you that you have to have a registered
> company to even "try" to get free stuff. It is definitly not illegal unless
> you misrepresent yourself as a company, looking to resell a manufacturers
> products. It is just a 1 meg exe file (ebook) and a synopsis page of how it
> works. So there is a detailed version and a summary version. I have both.
> In any case, leave a message under this thread, and I will send you the
> info.
> It's not like im looking to resell it, so ask away!
>

I'm never going to buy one, but I'm curious! My email address is real, so
you can just reply.

Thanks.


Ben

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Jan 3, 2003, 4:58:41 AM1/3/03
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i posted the letter below


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allison aka psycho

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On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:00:27 GMT, "Ben" <rainb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>These sellers sell different versions of these "Free electronics" programs.
>I was able to get my hands on a copy, and it doesnt seem to be bullshit,
>however it fails to clearly tell you that you have to have a registered
>company to even "try" to get free stuff. It is definitly not illegal unless
>you misrepresent yourself as a company, looking to resell a manufacturers
>products. It is just a 1 meg exe file (ebook) and a synopsis page of how it
>works. So there is a detailed version and a summary version. I have both.
>In any case, leave a message under this thread, and I will send you the
>info.
>It's not like im looking to resell it, so ask away!
>
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Ben

May I have a copy please, Ben?
allison at wi dot rr dot com

thanks very much!


>
>
><1552774001@***.home.ne.jp> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone know about these? They make claims that you can get
>electronic
>> items for free. You pretend to be a supplier, or something. Here's one
>> auction:
>>
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30019&item=1948632289
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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times2...@times2bbs.com

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> i posted the letter below
>
>


lol, yep, same one I posted awhile back in here.
I grabbed it from some dudes ftp pub


Ben

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Jan 3, 2003, 5:06:49 PM1/3/03
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I posted it below


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ryem2

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Jan 3, 2003, 5:16:09 PM1/3/03
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Hay there, could I get a copy, gotta see what is so unbelievable.
Good email, so U can reply to it. Thanx in advance.

RyeMe2

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Naru Bunny

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Jan 3, 2003, 6:13:28 PM1/3/03
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:00:27 GMT, "Ben" <rainb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>These sellers sell different versions of these "Free electronics" programs.
>I was able to get my hands on a copy, and it doesnt seem to be bullshit,
>however it fails to clearly tell you that you have to have a registered
>company to even "try" to get free stuff. It is definitly not illegal unless
>you misrepresent yourself as a company, looking to resell a manufacturers
>products. It is just a 1 meg exe file (ebook) and a synopsis page of how it
>works. So there is a detailed version and a summary version. I have both.
>In any case, leave a message under this thread, and I will send you the
>info.
>It's not like im looking to resell it, so ask away!
>
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Ben
>

May I have a copy too?

Thanks!

Ben

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It is posted below...

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Ben

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Jan 3, 2003, 6:17:21 PM1/3/03
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posted below...


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bunny lover

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I would like a copy of what the seller sent you too. Thanks,

Julie


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Fred A. Murphy

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On 2-Jan-2003, "Ben" <rainb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> So as you can see it is no big loss for the
> company to give away a sample of the Digital Camera that is only worth
> $20-$30 to them.

Unless, of course, they give them to every Tom, Dick and Harry who writes
for one, in which case they'll never sell another one at retail. You can do
that with a film camera, and make it up on the film.

> If you become a distributor or intend to start
> selling a manufacturer's products, then companies are more than happy to
> send you a free sample - even if it retails for $2500 or more

Especially if you live in a post office box, MBE, or trailer park. They
know that's where all major distibutors hang out.

> Manufacturers receive and honor hundreds of requests for samples every day
> and send them out on a daily basis to potential distributors.

Yes, manufacturers of soap and breakfast cereal.

> All you need
> to do is contact the manufacturer by mail or email, and identify yourself,
> your company (if applicable), request more information on the product you
> are interested in, ask for the PPU (Price Per Unit) for a certain
> quantity, and ask for a sample or two.

In return, you'll get an application for distributorship including spaces
for pictures of your operation, D+B Rating, and a letter of credit from your
financial institution.

> You can set up a free shipping account at
> FedEx or UPS online, and send your account number with it to give them an
> even cheaper way to ship the product, which means they are more likely to
> give you a free sample if they don't have to pay shipping.

Hey, this guy's gonna pick up the $50 tab on shipping him a $2000
flat-screen, that's a whole different story. We're such pikers that we
couldn't afford to fill his request otherwise.

> http://www.globalsources.com/ - This is where I began. There are
> thousands
> of products from countries all over the world piled into a neat directory.
> I'd say about a half of the products listed have a "Request Sample" link
> directly under the picture of the product.

Yes, none of which are worth over $10.

> BEWARE - there are
> popup windows all over the place:

Yeah, and I'll bet you can't right-click on it, either. Waitaminnut, they
were wrong about that, too.

Seriously, tho, thanx for the info. Damn shame it's only going to people
who really should already know better.

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