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Hellequin

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Mar 4, 2004, 9:19:48 PM3/4/04
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What a whiner. After a GAY man rubs his hoo-ha up against you
(tasteless though it might be), you do NOT collapse into a puddle of
humiliation, then abandon your team in the middle of a game.

I don't care if she had an attack of PTSD because the weenie-wagging
caused her to question her femininity due to a gay man dry-humping her,
or whether she had flashbacks of some asshole flashing his crank at her
out of a Peterbuilt cab in some truck stop in Bumfuck, Idaho.

By making such a big deal about it, she totally insults every female in
the world who is REALLY raped and brutalized. All I could think about
as she was crying on the beach were the thousands of women in Bosnia,
Chechnya, Rwanda and elsewhere that don't just get a brush with a dick,
but suffer gang rapes and then are frequently murdered afterwards.
There's a world of difference between tasteless behavior and actual
physical harm.

Fuck you, Sue. Take your scam somewhere else.

Rufus X. Sarsaparilla

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Mar 4, 2004, 9:24:34 PM3/4/04
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:19:48 -0600, Hellequin
<BowYou...@Itstimetopray.net> spake thusly:

Thank you. I hate to post a "me too", but...

tapegasser

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Mar 4, 2004, 9:28:59 PM3/4/04
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"Hellequin" <BowYou...@Itstimetopray.net> wrote in message
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well stated. steveo


Caroline

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Mar 4, 2004, 9:59:15 PM3/4/04
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Maybe you're just worried that a court will back up Sue's claim and say that,
while Sue has a vulgar mouth, Richard crossed the line.

She's not claiming rape. From what I can tell she is claiming sexual assault.
What Richard did is wrong. Period.

She'll argue it was so traumatizing and so out of the ordinary that she could
not continue, losing the shot at a million.

Richard (and possibly CBS) will have to pay.

"Hellequin" <BowYou...@Itstimetopray.net> wrote

jazzy

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Mar 4, 2004, 9:46:21 PM3/4/04
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Bowing head: Well said!!!!!! You are hilarious!!!!!


Steven Litvintchouk

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Mar 4, 2004, 10:06:49 PM3/4/04
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Hellequin wrote:
> What a whiner. After a GAY man rubs his hoo-ha up against you
> (tasteless though it might be), you do NOT collapse into a puddle of
> humiliation, then abandon your team in the middle of a game.

I agree 100%.
And notice the timing.
Sue did not explode at the time of the incident. She didn't swing her
fist and knock out a few of Richard's teeth right then, as she probably
could. She seemed quite calm about it, slept on it, woke up the next
morning and *then* she seemingly collapsed and exploded. Shades of
Ghandia. I'm not buying it.


> By making such a big deal about it, she totally insults every female in
> the world who is REALLY raped and brutalized.

I agree 100%. And those women don't get to sue for $10 million.

-- Steven L.


Warren

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Mar 4, 2004, 10:51:20 PM3/4/04
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In article <72S1c.19640$yZ1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Caroline <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Maybe you're just worried that a court will back up Sue's claim and say that,
> while Sue has a vulgar mouth, Richard crossed the line.
>
> She's not claiming rape. From what I can tell she is claiming sexual assault.
> What Richard did is wrong. Period.
>
> She'll argue it was so traumatizing and so out of the ordinary that she could
> not continue, losing the shot at a million.


she'll also lose. Face it, she's a loser. She instigated the whole
thing and then whined when it didn't work out to her advantage. Good
riddance.

Jack Rimbaud

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Mar 5, 2004, 1:43:40 AM3/5/04
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>"Caroline" <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>...She's not claiming rape. From what I can tell she is claiming sexual

> assault. What Richard did is wrong. Period.
> She'll argue it was so traumatizing and so out of the ordinary that she
> could not continue, losing the shot at a million.
> Richard (and possibly CBS) will have to pay.

If Richard intentionally rubbed his genitals on Sue, it could be a sexual
assault. If Sue was really traumatized and "had to" quit, she could damages
have a civil case. But I can't see anyone viewing the tape and saying they
saw a sexual assault. Sue made it impossible for Richard to do anything but
pass close by, and I don't see Richard rubbing or lunging or doing anything
to intentionally cause contact. His comment was crude, but apparently not
any cruder than the comments Sue made.

Hellequin

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Mar 5, 2004, 2:18:52 AM3/5/04
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In article <72S1c.19640$yZ1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Caroline" <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Maybe you're just worried that a court will back up Sue's claim and say that,
> while Sue has a vulgar mouth, Richard crossed the line.

Not at all. I'll be suprised if it even makes it to court. This has
out-of-court-setttlement-to-shut-the-harridan-up written all over it.
And yes, he did cross the line of acceptable behavior. No argument
there.


> She's not claiming rape. From what I can tell she is claiming sexual assault.
> What Richard did is wrong. Period.


At what point did I say Richard was in the right? He's an obnoxious
asshole, and he should have kept it in his pants. Still, his offense
should in no way rise to the level of despair & humiliation she claimed.
Her comments about "what will my husband think?" are laughable. He's
watching it at the same time we are. He's gonna see what we saw, which
is a pompous, pudgy queen drag his wee little unit across her backside.

Sexual Assault is a crime, but you're going to have to prove he did it
with malice aforethought. Hatch can claim he was just doing a naked
Happy Dance, and she just got in his way. It'll depend on who's got the
better lawyer. "If the penis did not spit, you must ACQUIT!"


>
> She'll argue it was so traumatizing and so out of the ordinary that she could
> not continue, losing the shot at a million.

And a rational jury will award her a free kick to his crotch, and that's
all. You suffer tortious damage by being gang-raped with croquet
mallets, not by having a trouser-weasel wipe across your clothed bum.
If this happened in the workplace, I'd be singing the "String Richard
Up" song, but this is a gameshow, and she KNEW Hatch got naked and acted
like an ass.


>
> Richard (and possibly CBS) will have to pay.


I really, really doubt it. Do college kids pay for streaking? How about
people grinding up against you in a dance club? Improper, even
offensive, but not worth a great deal of money.

Matt Miller

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Mar 5, 2004, 2:44:40 AM3/5/04
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Sources close to JackRimb...@yahoo.com (Jack Rimbaud) revealed on
04 Mar 2004 that the following message was delivered to
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> If Richard intentionally rubbed his genitals on Sue, it could be a
> sexual assault. If Sue was really traumatized and "had to" quit, she
> could damages have a civil case. But I can't see anyone viewing the
> tape and saying they saw a sexual assault. Sue made it impossible for
> Richard to do anything but pass close by, and I don't see Richard
> rubbing or lunging or doing anything to intentionally cause contact.
> His comment was crude, but apparently not any cruder than the comments
> Sue made.

Right. All I saw was two adults acting like giggley 12-year-olds. I
didn't see Rich make any movement that looked like he was trying to touch
Sue with his penis.

--

Matt Miller

"You're not going crazy,
you're just a bit sad"

- The Kinks

Steve-o

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Mar 5, 2004, 3:29:59 AM3/5/04
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Bar, Saturday night, Booze. Every town every night. it happens somewhere.
anyone who watched the original knew he was going to pull the naked bit.


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Brandons of mass destruction

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Mar 5, 2004, 7:09:37 AM3/5/04
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In article <72S1c.19640$yZ1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Caroline" <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Maybe you're just worried that a court will back up Sue's claim and say that,
> while Sue has a vulgar mouth, Richard crossed the line.
>
> She's not claiming rape. From what I can tell she is claiming sexual assault.
> What Richard did is wrong. Period.

then sue shouldn't have instigated the situation

>
> She'll argue it was so traumatizing and so out of the ordinary that she could
> not continue, losing the shot at a million.
>
> Richard (and possibly CBS) will have to pay.

yep. there's right, there's wrong, and then there's the law.

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Matt Lang

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Mar 5, 2004, 8:10:15 AM3/5/04
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The appropiate reaction would have been to kick im in the balls right
there and not to whine and cry about it for days and then quit the
game...

She must be related to omarosa from the apprentice ...


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Matt Lang

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Mar 5, 2004, 8:11:27 AM3/5/04
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JackRimb...@yahoo.com (Jack Rimbaud) wrote in message news:<20040305014340.157$t...@newsreader.com>...

I think she has a mental case ;)

Sprucedale

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Mar 5, 2004, 10:06:57 AM3/5/04
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: >What a whiner. After a GAY man rubs his hoo-ha up against you


me, too - but, me too !!


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Caroline

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Mar 5, 2004, 10:34:22 AM3/5/04
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"Hellequin" <BowYou...@Itstimetopray.net> wrote in message
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> In article <72S1c.19640$yZ1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Caroline" <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you're just worried that a court will back up Sue's claim and say
that,
> > while Sue has a vulgar mouth, Richard crossed the line.
>
> Not at all. I'll be suprised if it even makes it to court. This has
> out-of-court-setttlement-to-shut-the-harridan-up written all over it.

An out-of-court settlement in this case is as good as an in-court settlement. I
don't make a distinction.

The Early Show today, with Sue and Richard, suggests she's taken no legal
action.

I'd say there's a fair chance she made a settlement.

I disagree with several of your other comments, but it appears to be a dead
issue at this point, so forward.


Hellequin

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Mar 5, 2004, 2:17:00 PM3/5/04
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In article <2612c.20174$yZ1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Caroline" <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:


Well, you'd be wrong.

What's the matter? Steamed that I'm not groveling for mercy at the foot
of Mons Veneris because a man dared to sully the sanctity of the Holy
Female Body?

Put down your copy of whatever screed Dworkin bleated, and join the
world of reason.

Caroline

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Mar 5, 2004, 3:33:07 PM3/5/04
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"Hellequin" <BowYou...@Itstimetopray.net> wrote
Caroline wrote

> > I disagree with several of your other comments, but it appears to be a dead
> > issue at this point, so forward.
snip
> What's the matter?

I don't have anything to add to my arguments. You have your opinion. I have
mine.

Plus, based on your emotional outburst in this post, the evidence is not good
that you want to have a rational discussion.

I do appreciate your saving me a lot of time, though.


Joan

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Mar 5, 2004, 3:53:40 PM3/5/04
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Query: Could Hatch even get it up or close to Sue?

By his declarations I presume he's not turned on by feminine wiles,
even if Sue had any.

So, with his big tummy, and limp thingie, how could he have made
contact without leaning waaay back?

;-)

Hellequin

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Mar 5, 2004, 8:53:06 PM3/5/04
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In article <7u52c.20548$yZ1....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Caroline" <caroline1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

And your opinion is completely wrong.

LOL you seem to lack a sense of humor as well. Excessive indulgence in
post-modern feminist studies will drain it every time.

And if you think that was an emotional outburst, it's no wonder you
thought Sue suffered from Hatch's thoughtless act. Sue unloading on
Jeff was an emotional outburst. My retort was solely to poke at you,
and it obviously succeeded.

Yeah, no kidding about this being a timewaster. As they say, no use
arguing with a ...

JcKHaMMeR

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Mar 7, 2004, 11:40:11 AM3/7/04
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]

Whooosh...thats the sound of his whole point going over your head. If
your blonde I can understand. If your hair is any other colour then
your just plain dense.

Warren

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Mar 7, 2004, 12:26:32 PM3/7/04
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In article <c3km40dgogloh5vs4...@4ax.com>, JcKHaMMeR
<i...@home.drunk> wrote:


How do you make a blonde's eyes light up?


Shine a flashlight in her ear.

Aaron Baugher

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Mar 8, 2004, 7:59:36 AM3/8/04
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Brandons of mass destruction <junk...@comcast.net> writes:

> then sue shouldn't have instigated the situation

Richard instigated the situation when he got undressed.


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abau...@esc.pike.il.us

Aaron Baugher

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Mar 8, 2004, 8:17:37 AM3/8/04
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Steven Litvintchouk <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> writes:

> Sue did not explode at the time of the incident. She didn't swing
> her fist and knock out a few of Richard's teeth right then, as she
> probably could. She seemed quite calm about it, slept on it, woke
> up the next morning and *then* she seemingly collapsed and exploded.

You might want to read up a little on the psychology of sexual assault
aftermath. I'm not an expert, but everything about Sue's reaction
rang true from what I know.

First stage: Denial. At first she had almost no reaction at all,
because it was so unexpected. Her thought process was probably mostly
"I can't believe he just did that."

Then she started to accept that it happened, and wonder why. Why did
he do it? I thought he was my friend. Sure, we banter back and forth
and act like we hate each other, but maybe deep down he really does
hate me. And why me, and not the other women? Because he thinks I'm
tougher than them, so I'm not supposed to have the same feelings or
personal space?

Then irrational guilt, which is very common for victims of sexual
assault. It doesn't make sense, but many women in that condition
worry that their husbands will blame them somehow -- and sometimes the
husbands do.

Then anger, which she'd been saving up to confront Rich with, and
ended up directing at Jeff, while simultaneously letting him know that
since he didn't see it, she wasn't blaming him.

It all makes sense to me. I'm a feminist-hater from way back, and I
think a lot of what they've pushed on us over the years in sexual
harassment law and political correctness is leftist crap, mostly
designed to emasculate men, destroy the traditional family, and
empower government over individuals. But if the alternative is to go
back to some sort of Neanderthal level of "she was asking for it,"
where I do I sign up for NOW?


--
Aaron
abau...@esc.pike.il.us

hpspamle...@yahoo.com

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Mar 8, 2004, 2:45:22 PM3/8/04
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I thought you were going to talk about Shii-Ann saying how nice it had
been to have fish. What the hell is wrong with these women that they
can't grab a spear and go fishing themselves, instead of seemingly
depending on the menfolk to do it? Jeez....

Jeannie
loves any excuse to be in the water

Brandons of mass destruction

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Mar 10, 2004, 4:38:47 PM3/10/04
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In article <8665dfo...@cail.baugher.pike.il.us>,
Aaron Baugher <abau...@esc.pike.il.us> wrote:

> Brandons of mass destruction <junk...@comcast.net> writes:
>
> > then sue shouldn't have instigated the situation
>
> Richard instigated the situation when he got undressed.

Ya, 'cause Richard made Sue chose that beam and confront him.

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