Eddie Kieger takes delivery of his van
SunShine
http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie/article.html
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..go eddie
Ray McCauley
In article <3308C405...@psc.edu>, SunShine says...
>
>http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie/article.html
This put *a lot of tears in my eyes* Thanks everyone.......go Eddie.
Ray
Thomas M. DeBoni
Hey, thanks for posting the news about Eddie's van. I really enjoyed reading
about it. And that was a really nice snapshot of you and Eddie, too. (How
long's it been since I told you how good looking you are?) But I'm still
intrigued by the possibility of our offering Eddie some long term support,
both in terms of PT funding, and in helping him and his family fight the
insurance company that won't help him recover. Has anyone contacted the AMA
about the legal issues involved? I don't know what other organizations there
might be out there that could assist in this area. Some of the MRO's I hear
about worry me, and I'd be skeptical of the efforts of many of the lawyer-
types that seem to hover around them. Maybe Cuda could offer some advice on
this...
So, I wonder what we could do to maintain a steady flow of support to Eddie?
A bake sale? A run? Maybe some of us could do like pilots used to do in the
early days of aviation, namely offer rides at county fairs and such events.
What else do we have, or what can we do, that others would pay for, and that
we could donate or use for this cause? A group of Christian bikers out here
in the Central Valley recently raffled a meticulously restored 58 panhead,
with the proceeds going to support their own ministry. Normally, I don't
support religious organizations, but in this case I made an exception. I
talked to them, and they seemed like such genuine souls, I couldn't help but
buy a couple of tickets. Of course, the beautiful old sled they were raffling
helped attract my interest, too. I mean, this machine had Labor of Love
written all over it. But then they were all in one place at the same time.
We're scattered all over the civilized world. It's harder to pull together
a physical effort under these condiditons. Maybe we can tie some part of the
Run to the Sun into an effort for Eddie.
I have one last question: Why don't MRO's offer some sort of general legal
support for insurance company fights?
I suppose I should post this, instead of just emailing it to you, shouldn't I?
Tom DeBoni
Raymond Abbitt
In article <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>,
Thomas M. DeBoni <deb...@llnl.gov> wrote:
<snip>
>So, I wonder what we could do to maintain a steady flow of support to Eddie?
>A bake sale? A run? Maybe some of us could do like pilots used to do in the
>early days of aviation, namely offer rides at county fairs and such events.
>What else do we have, or what can we do, that others would pay for, and that
People being what they are (even the good ones here), in general it
is easy to get them to rise to the occasion for an emergency but much
harder to get them to work together on a steady basis. It would be real
hard to get people interested in providing a steady flow of support.
(OK, I'm cynical--prove me wrong--I hope you do.)
>we could donate or use for this cause? A group of Christian bikers out here
>in the Central Valley recently raffled a meticulously restored 58 panhead,
>with the proceeds going to support their own ministry. Normally, I don't
>support religious organizations, but in this case I made an exception. I
>talked to them, and they seemed like such genuine souls, I couldn't help but
>buy a couple of tickets. Of course, the beautiful old sled they were raffling
>helped attract my interest, too. I mean, this machine had Labor of Love
>written all over it. But then they were all in one place at the same time.
>We're scattered all over the civilized world. It's harder to pull together
>a physical effort under these condiditons. Maybe we can tie some part of the
>Run to the Sun into an effort for Eddie.
This one drug a few (OK, all I had on me at the time--that was one neat
machine) bucks out of me too. I normally don't support religious orgs
either, but these were good guys and I wish them the best.
Maybe we should just declare it Eddies month as soon as the weather
clears each year, and hold regional events for on-line riders and friends.
If we all donated what the average charity run costs, and just got
together and had a good time everybody would come out ahead.
Just thinkin out loud for the whole world to see.
-ray
'96 FXDL
Charlie Smith
Thomas M. DeBoni <deb...@llnl.gov> wrote:
> ... and in helping him and his family fight the
>insurance company that won't help him recover. Has anyone contacted the AMA
>about the legal issues involved? I don't know what other organizations there
Just wanted to provide some info after Tom's comment ...
Eddie worked for Amdahl in Sunnyvale. As I understand it, they
self insure for this type of coverage. From listening to Ann
Kieger, it's not a matter of them being hard-assed, but that
the patient has to have some near-term prospect of progress.
In Eddie's case, the progress is very slow. But, let me tell you
I've been visiting Eddie since he was brought back to Cleveland
a couple years ago - there is definitely an improvement now in his
ability to control motion and in how he reacts to things around him.
That's why I think the van and what it offers for getting him out
into the world will really help him make progress!
Speaking of Amdahl, Eddie, and mainframe stuff - last weekend
I told him a mainframe related riddle, and he got this huge
grin on his face! For those interested - see below. I'm sure
he was into hardware level programming at Amdahl, he worked on
compatibility issues.
- Charlie
The riddle I told him -
If your job is to clear all the bits in memory to zero, how few a
number of bits are left on when you get done and the machine is
in the wait state? Exactly what bits are they?
Let's keep it simple, and assume non-virtual - like a 360, and of
course you start in the supervisor state.
Anybody that can't stand not to know, email me :-)
Mark Jenks
John J. Stafford (Staf...@Wind.Winona.msus.edu) wrote:
: In article <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, Thomas M. DeBoni
: <deb...@llnl.gov> wrote:
: > So, I wonder what we could do to maintain a steady flow of support to Eddie?
: Mikey and Cuda mentioned one way a long time ago: an automatic
: withdrawl from our paychecks to Eddie. I'm willing, but can't
: make it a lot. If enough of us do it, then it can work. What's
: his PT cost per day? A little arithmetic can show that we can
: do it. Again!
: Sunshine, Anne? How do we go about this?
And how many days a month?
Daffy
V. Menard
In article <Stafford-180...@199.17.133.220>,
Staf...@Wind.Winona.msus.edu (John J. Stafford) wrote:
> In article <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, Thomas M. DeBoni
> <deb...@llnl.gov> wrote:
>
> > So, I wonder what we could do to maintain a steady flow of support to Eddie?
>
> Mikey and Cuda mentioned one way a long time ago: an automatic
> withdrawl from our paychecks to Eddie. I'm willing, but can't
> make it a lot. If enough of us do it, then it can work. What's
> his PT cost per day? A little arithmetic can show that we can
> do it. Again!
>
> Sunshine, Anne? How do we go about this?
Sorry guys -n- wenches...
mikey's been bustin'ass working away...(not that I'm complainin', after 14
months out of work!)
So...here's the scoop from Sunshine...
ANY amount is welcome even $5! If 1,000 people do $5 a month, Eddie's got
$5,000 worth of therapy that month! Think! If it were you, would $5
matter?
Go fer it!
And, while supplies last, for those who commit to a monthly contribution,
I'll throw in a chrome billet disk lock! Seriously...
I've got about 25 of 'em or so...but they are going fast!
I'll be in touch with Sunshine to get the names...
----------------------------------------------------
Ok, here's the info for making monthly contributions:
The bank's name is:
Ohio Savings Bank
Farnsleigh Road Office
Shaker Heights, OH 44122
Their routing number is: 241 070 433
The account number is: 00350122305
Please let me know when you have it set up. I'll send Ann the info.
Please include the amount, date transaction will occur, and the name
of the bank you're using.
Thanks!!!!!
-SunShine...may be reached at <gr...@psc.ed>
mikey
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White trash - it's not just an attitude; it's an adventure.
SunShine
John J. Stafford wrote:
>
> In article <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, Thomas M. DeBoni
> <deb...@llnl.gov> wrote:
>
> > So, I wonder what we could do to maintain a steady flow of support to Eddie?
>
> Mikey and Cuda mentioned one way a long time ago: an automatic
> withdrawl from our paychecks to Eddie. I'm willing, but can't
> make it a lot. If enough of us do it, then it can work. What's
> his PT cost per day? A little arithmetic can show that we can
> do it. Again!
>
> Sunshine, Anne? How do we go about this?
If you want to make monthly contributions from your bank account,
contact me and I'll send you the info. Ya know, even $10 a month would
add up, and will bring good feelings and good karma.... 8-)
{SunShine goes off to look for daily costs....]
>Because we can't afford to pay for therapies for him [they cost $29 for >1/4 hour, or $350/day for an
>hour each of PT, OT and speech]
Currently Ann is setting up Occupational Therapy (OT). I suggested this
because O.Therapists are really great at doing a little of everything
and making recommendations. He just got pegs on his hand wheel, so she
wants them to work with him to get him more mobile, and then start with
speech to determine what's the best route to get him more
communicative. He's really getting that pointing thing down.
A quick update from the past weekend - he ate his first food.
Everything in the past has been repulsive to him - Ann was concerned
that his taste buds weren't working. After he got some garlic mashed
potatoes, it appears that it might be a consistency thing, or that he
doesn't like bland things. He wouldn't open his mouth voluntarily (we
made him laugh to get his mouth open), but once he got the food, he
consistently ate it and never even once spit it out or forced it out. I
was pretty excited about that.
I *love* the picture of him and me. It's on my computer as the
background. The sutre thing is that he is pissed in the picture, and
you can't tell. He was mad at us for bringing the media. He didn't
like it. He wouldn't smile, wouldn't laugh, even at my best
wisecracks. At least he stared at me without looking away. I told him
he didn't have to like that part but he'd better like the van or I'd
take it back. As soon as we started out of his room, he perked up and
became himself again.
First thing I noticed when we got to the home was that he'd been working
on his right hand, getting it flexible (I always work this hand as it's
been very stiff). I said "You've been working this hand!" and he
laughed, and I told him that "nothing gets by me" and he seemed pretty
proud that I'd figured that out. Of course, he shortly turned into
Oscar the Grouch when the media arrived....
Ann is just amazed at how perky he's been, and we get the credit. He
loves the van, stays awake and alert the whole time he's in it. We've
lifted his spirits (and Ann's) as we all came to the call when Eddie had
brought them both to their lowest emotional point in years. We gave
Eddie a real shot in the arm. Ann is constantly worried that she hasn't
conveyed her thanks to the level that she experiences it, and I am
always reassuring her that she has. She's also sorry that the article
was so short and that they didn't print a news release that she typed up
that really shows her thanks to all of us (I will be typing this in
soon), but I reassured her that her thanks came out in her letter to us
earlier which can be found at http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie/ann.html .
Thanks again everyone, from the bottom of mine, Ann's and Eddie's heart.
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Barry L. Van Hook
In article <330C7979...@psc.edu> SunShine <gr...@psc.edu> writes:
SunShine, you're my hero!!
Barry #36
Barry L. Van Hook (van...@asu.edu)
Management Department, College of Business
Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287-4006
(602) 965-1217 FAX -- (602) 965-8314
SunShine
I believe the OT will be like 1/2 hour a day, 5 days a week, but I'm
guestimating. It might be 3 days a week. We have to make the money
stretch. Hate to get him on a roll and then the funds run out.....
Keith James
Thomas M. DeBoni wrote:
>
> So, I wonder what we could do to maintain a steady flow of support to Eddie?
Back in January when I volunteered to host the EK web auction, I had no
idea what would become of it. At some point I realized it was going to
require a long-term commitment, and after some consideration, decided I
was in it for the long haul. Every update I make to the page gives me
great pleasure, knowing I'm a part of this group and this effort.
Anyway, I'd like to go on record by stating the following:
As long as you all continue to contribute, bid, and purchase items for
the EKIII Auction, I'll continue to maintain the site. So there.
Matt Pittelkow
In <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, Thomas M. DeBoni <deb...@llnl.gov> writes:
>Hey, thanks for posting the news about Eddie's van. I really enjoyed reading
>about it. And that was a really nice snapshot of you and Eddie, too. (How
>long's it been since I told you how good looking you are?) But I'm still
>intrigued by the possibility of our offering Eddie some long term support,
Those pictures were very moving. It's clear that Eddie's still in there and
needs some help finding the door to the outside. I'm going to have to make
a trip down that way to say hi.
Let me know how i can help.
Matt AH#16, FHBE#2
R1100RT (The Ballistic Luxury Liner)
Panhead
I agree. Nice job. It kinda got me a wee-bit weepy eyed reading the
story and such on the web-pages.
If I ever get a big enough paint booth, I'll try to do a flame job on
the van!
Good luck Eddie! You have good friends.
panhead#49
Mark Jenks
Panhead ("panhead"@removewebspan.net) wrote:
: panhead#49
How about finding someone to donate their time to put a "Mann" painting on
the side? That would go along nice with the passenger.
Heck, before you know it, he might be in a bar getting roudy and running
over peoples toes.. (Still hoping for the recovery to be successful)
Daffy out.
Thomas M. DeBoni
In article <5ed4t2$4...@ccnet3.ccnet.com> Raymond Abbitt,
rab...@ccnet.com writes:
>Subject: Re: Eddie Kieger takes delivery of his van
>From: Raymond Abbitt, rab...@ccnet.com
>Date: 18 Feb 1997 12:53:54 -0800
>>In article <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>,
>People being what they are (even the good ones here), in general it
>is easy to get them to rise to the occasion for an emergency but much
>harder to get them to work together on a steady basis. It would be real
>hard to get people interested in providing a steady flow of support.
>(OK, I'm cynical--prove me wrong--I hope you do.)
I'm grappling with this ongoing support thing, myself. Thing is, I'd like
to DO something. I may have more energy than moneybeing but a poor wage
slave.
>Maybe we should just declare it Eddies month as soon as the weather
>clears each year, and hold regional events for on-line riders and friends.
>If we all donated what the average charity run costs, and just got
>together and had a good time everybody would come out ahead.
Not a bad idea - hold our own charity run, or several, in our various
locations. Those near each other could use them as an excuse to get
together, as well as an excuse to meet and ride and party with the
other rif-raf in their areas. Problem is, the run season is starting,
and it's lousy with big runs, good causes, and famous faces. Aren't there
any famous bikers who hang out on line, who could lend a little panache
to an event for Eddie? More famous than our own Assholes (tm), I mean.
>Just thinkin out loud for the whole world to see.
>-ray
>'96 FXDL
Well, I like your thinkin', Ray.
Tom
Rich Tremblay
>>Subject: Re: Eddie Kieger takes delivery of his van
>>From: Raymond Abbitt, rab...@ccnet.com
>>Date: 18 Feb 1997 12:53:54 -0800
>>>In article <5ect2g$9...@lll-winken.llnl.gov>,
>
>>People being what they are (even the good ones here), in general it
>>is easy to get them to rise to the occasion for an emergency but much
>>harder to get them to work together on a steady basis. It would be
real
>>hard to get people interested in providing a steady flow of support.
>>(OK, I'm cynical--prove me wrong--I hope you do.)
snipped some of each
>
>Not a bad idea - hold our own charity run, or several, in our various
>locations. Those near each other could use them as an excuse to get
>together, as well as an excuse to meet and ride and party with the
>other rif-raf in their areas.
You mean Wayne?? Merrill?? MrScottly?? Mossman?? and.........Me??
I'm game. That'd be worth the price of admission to meet all these
guys at once. How about the "Florida West Coast HarleyScumBikerRun"
I'd bring up a couple of guys to help. We don't drink but we can
*sure* eat.
Rich ...I know it's a longshot but what the heck
Wayne Fernandez
>>Not a bad idea - hold our own charity run, or several, in our various
>>locations. Those near each other could use them as an excuse to get
>>together, as well as an excuse to meet and ride and party with the
>>other rif-raf in their areas.
>
>You mean Wayne?? Merrill?? MrScottly?? Mossman?? and.........Me??
>I'm game. That'd be worth the price of admission to meet all these
>guys at once. How about the "Florida West Coast HarleyScumBikerRun"
>I'd bring up a couple of guys to help. We don't drink but we can
>*sure* eat.
>
>Rich ...I know it's a longshot but what the heck
>
MWF