List of very rare Magic cards - please comment it and post/mail updates :)
Blaz Antonic
booster/ starter/pre-constructed pack but do exist on paper :-)
I could really use some help with items marked with [?] :)
1: Pre-release cards (aka Promos):
- Ice Age promos [?]
- 4th Edition Fireball and Blue Elemental Blast with 1994 Copyright date
- Homelands promos [?]
- Chronicles promos [?]
- Dirthcowl Wurm (Tempest)
- Revenant (Stronghold)
- Monstrous Hound (Exodus)
- Lightning Dragon (Urza's Saga; foil)
- Beast of Burden (Urza's Legacy; foil)
- False Prophet (Urza's Destuny; foil)
- Overtaker (Mercadian Masques; foil)
- Rathi Assassin (Nemesis; foil)
- Avatar of Hope (Prophecy; foil)
2: unique cards (i have never seen and will probably never see any of
these):
- 1996 World Champion card
- Proposal
- Splendid Genesis (geez, it's real, i saw it, or a very good proxy of
it at the Worlds 2000)
3: Summer edition ("test run"):
This "set" is the same as Revised, but with the Serendib Efreet
corrected and the Hurricane messed up (+ other minor changes, such as
the pentagram removed from the Demonic Tutor [?]).
4: Worlds cards:
- APAC land sets (3 sets of 5 land, each with different artwork)
- Balduvian Horde (black bordered with 6th edition expansion symbol;
foil)
5: Book cards (expansion symbol is pen):
- Arena
- Giant Badger
- Mana Crypt
- Sewers of Estark
- Windseeker Centaur
6: Arena/DCI cards (expansion symbol is M in circle, all of them have
alternate artwork):
- Counterspell
- Disenchant
- Fireball
- Incinerate
- one of each basic land
7: Foil Arena & FNM prizes and awards for judges (either with Urza's
Saga or 6th edition expansion symbol):
- one of each basic Urza's Saga land (foil)
- Chill (foil)
- Duress (foil)
- Gaea's Cradle (foil)
- Giant Growth (foil; DCI expansion symbol)
- Karn, Silver Golem (foil)
- Longbow Archer (foil)
- Mind Warp (foil)
- Pillage (foil)
- Pouncing Jaguar (foil)
- Rewind (foil)
- River Boa (foil)
- Serra Avatar (foil)
- Shock (foil)
- Skittering Skirge (foil)
- Stroke of Genius (foil)
- Terror (foil)
- Thran Quarry (foil)
- Uktabi Orangutan (foil)
- Volcanic Geyser (foil)
8: Other cards that are not related to any kind of competitive Magic
(Misc):
- Euro lands (3 sets of 5 land, each with different artwork)
- Guru lands (1 of each basic land)
- Serra Angel (black bordered; foil)
- Nalathni Dragon (from DragonCon)
- Nalathni Dragon (Japanese version without "dragon" expansion symbol)
- Cursed Scroll [?] (Japanese version with activation cost of 2)
- Scent of Cinder (alternate art)
- Lightning Hounds (Duelist; foil)
- Warmonger (Duelist; foil)
- Rhox (alternative art; foil) *This one is an exception to the rule
above; it is avaliable in Starter PCD
- Lightning Bolt (foil)
- Lightning Bolt (foil; without any text - apparenty only 1 of these
exists)
X: Misc misc cards i have never seen [?]:
- Abeyance (foil; test print run)
- City of Traitors (foil; test print run)
This list was compiled by Blaz Antonic, blaz.an...@SPAMemail.si ..
any submissions are welcome !!! You know what to do to get correct
e-mail address, right ? :)
Taneli Saastamoinen
> List of MtG cards that never could be and never will be avaliable in
> booster/ starter/pre-constructed pack but do exist on paper :-)
[...]
> 1: Pre-release cards (aka Promos):
> - 4th Edition Fireball and Blue Elemental Blast with 1994 Copyright date
I have a 1994 Fireball, but it's perfectly mint ... so I don't know if
it's for real :) Could be.
[...]
> X: Misc misc cards i have never seen [?]:
> - Abeyance (foil; test print run)
> - City of Traitors (foil; test print run)
I have also some Japanese cards (don't know the language, but I suppose
it's Japanese) - could make a list, I guess, it's just a matter of
time. Could also make scans, if no one questions the legality and such
... but not as big ones as the last ones I made (see earlier post) :)
Also, those are just some lands and other comparatively common stuff.
Overall, a good list, in that I haven't seen one before. I suggest we
(the people) make it better by adding more cards. Maybe, if you think
they suit this list, I'll contribute my Japanese cards.
This may also help if one has a card, the genuinity (hmm, don't know
about the genuinity of that one :) of which one is unable to determine.
> This list was compiled by Blaz Antonic, blaz.an...@SPAMemail.si ..
> any submissions are welcome !!! You know what to do to get correct
> e-mail address, right ? :)
Right :) You know how to read news, so I won't mail you.
Hey, my address ain't munged. Isn't life weird?
--
- - Lobotomy of PwP ^ EBR - taneli.sa...@cs.helsinki.fi - -
Christopher Wiegert
ahead of the set's release but they were printed with the old mana symbols
in Ice Age, while all the other cards got the new symbols, so that there's
no way to distinguish between a promo and a normal version of that card.
So if you look through your Ice Age cards and look for old symbols, you should
be able to figure out which were promos. I remember hearing that Norritt and
Fylgya were promos, and Prismatic Ward has the old symbol so I guess that is
too. Maybe someone else can flesh out the list... this is all just hearsay,
I wasn't playing Magic back then.
Blah
International gift box. Many of the cards text boxes/ copyright lines were
different than the production cards.
Blaz Antonic wrote in message <3992ED...@email.si>...
>List of MtG cards that never could be and never will be avaliable in
>booster/ starter/pre-constructed pack but do exist on paper :-)
>
>I could really use some help with items marked with [?] :)
>
>1: Pre-release cards (aka Promos):
>- Ice Age promos [?]
>- 4th Edition Fireball and Blue Elemental Blast with 1994 Copyright date
>X: Misc misc cards i have never seen [?]:
>- Abeyance (foil; test print run)
>- City of Traitors (foil; test print run)
>
David Chapman
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<snip list>
One that *has* been forgotten is the foil Vampiric Tutor given to Worlds
judges this year.
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>judges this year.
>
They're very nice indeed........anyone wanna buy one?
;o)
Joe
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magicmart@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX(Cutting Edge Cards) wrote:
> >One that *has* been forgotten is the foil Vampiric Tutor given to
Worlds
> >judges this year.
> >
>
> They're very nice indeed........anyone wanna buy one?
snip
Such a post as a reply to a DAVE CHAPMAN post! From someone who reads
the thread and therefore the forum!?!
To me it doesn't look like a joke.
Hey, Dave, let loose
J.N.
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Before you buy.
Patrik Linell
Blaz Antonic <blaz.an...@SPAMemail.si> wrote:
> List of MtG cards that never could be and never will be avaliable in
> booster/ starter/pre-constructed pack but do exist on paper :-)
<snip list>
I seem to remember foil Enlightened Tutors given out by Richard
Garfield to close friends and people who'd done him favors... One was
for sale on eBay a little while ago. Can anyone confirm or deny?
The Usenetter formerly known as Suntiger,
Patrik Linell
David Chapman
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> In article <20000811071859...@ng-fa1.aol.com>,
> magicmart@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX(Cutting Edge Cards) wrote:
> > >One that *has* been forgotten is the foil Vampiric Tutor given to
> Worlds
> > >judges this year.
> > >
> >
> > They're very nice indeed........anyone wanna buy one?
> Such a post as a reply to a DAVE CHAPMAN post! From someone who reads
> the thread and therefore the forum!?!
>
> To me it doesn't look like a joke.
>
> Hey, Dave, let loose
</Shang Tsung>
I'll express my ... displeasure to the CEC guys in person at GenCon UK.
Bob Flaminio
news:3992ED...@email.si...
> List of MtG cards that never could be and never will be avaliable in
> booster/ starter/pre-constructed pack but do exist on paper :-)
>
>
> 1: Pre-release cards (aka Promos):
> - Ice Age promos [?]
These cards are indistinguishable from the regular IA & HM cards.
Unless it was still bag-sealed with a magazine, there's no way to know
if you've got a promo or not.
> - Chronicles promos [?]
AFAIK, there were no Chronicles promos. If there were, they would also
be indistinguishable from regular CH.
Note however that there were several Visions promos that *were*
slightly different from the regular VI cards -- mostly differing by
how the text wrapped. Steven D'Angelo has a description of each
differing card on his website at:
http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/products/visions.html
> 3: Summer edition ("test run"):
>
> This "set" is the same as Revised, but with the Serendib Efreet
> corrected and the Hurricane messed up (+ other minor changes, such
as
> the pentagram removed from the Demonic Tutor [?]).
The copyright line is also changed to the style of Legends and The
Dark, and the colors are quite dark in comparison to Revised.
> 8: Other cards that are not related to any kind of competitive Magic
> (Misc):
> - Euro lands (3 sets of 5 land, each with different artwork)
> - Guru lands (1 of each basic land)
I know you've seen at least *1* of these :-) ...
-Bob
MCharke
>- Abeyance (foil; test print run)
>- City of Traitors (foil; test print run)
>
>This list was compiled by Blaz Antonic, blaz.an...@SPAMemail.si ..
>any submissions are welcome !!! You know what to do to get correct
>e-mail address, right ? :)
There are a number of rare misprints.
The Drudge Skeleton - Swamp
Some kind of Serra Angel with Time Elemental's picture
There is a list of these in various books such as the inquest.
Also there are rippled cards that got caught in the sealer. Most often, and I
don't know why, this has been the rare card.
I have seen a Time Twister, beta, with a rippled edge. Ironically the fellow
who had it stolen later had it returned because it was so obvious that too many
people knew who belongs to it.
I pulled a rippled Radiant. I wasn't especially happy about that but it's
something different. I've never seen a rippled foil card. The odds are pretty
low I guess.
A few cards get that odd ink dot on them. Othere are escpecially dark or light
shaded.
There are also the original play test cards. I don't beleive they are generally
availible but they were presented in an artical in the Inquest. There were very
poor quality, hand drawn art etc.
There are the playtest stickers the company uses to make proxies for play
testing. I've never heard of any of those outside of WOTC.
Jesus Fernandez
MCharke wrote:
> Also there are rippled cards that got caught in the sealer. Most often, and I
> don't know why, this has been the rare card.
>
> I have seen a Time Twister, beta, with a rippled edge. Ironically the fellow
> who had it stolen later had it returned because it was so obvious that too many
> people knew who belongs to it.
> I pulled a rippled Radiant. I wasn't especially happy about that but it's
> something different. I've never seen a rippled foil card. The odds are pretty
> low I guess.
What do you mean rippled? Could you please describe how it looks, as it
sounds particularly... erm... peculiar. :)
-JF
ban...@my-deja.com
mch...@aol.com (MCharke) wrote:
> >X: Misc misc cards i have never seen [?]:
> >- Abeyance (foil; test print run)
> >- City of Traitors (foil; test print run)
> >
> >This list was compiled by Blaz Antonic,
blaz.an...@SPAMemail.si ..
> >any submissions are welcome !!! You know what to do to get correct
> >e-mail address, right ? :)
>
> There are a number of rare misprints.
> The Drudge Skeleton - Swamp
I wouldn't say the DS-Swamp is _Rare_! I got quite a lot of them (and
of the Forest - Plains)
If I remember correctly, it was a Common sheet land that got the wrong
text. (Back in the times of revised, when you still got lands from
common and uncommon sheets and not from a land sheet [but no rare
island any more ;) ])
J.N.
MCharke
<jf9...@netzero.net> writes:
>What do you mean rippled? Could you please describe how it looks, as it
>sounds particularly... erm... peculiar. :)
The top edge of the card has been caught in the sealer and takes on the
appearance of the top of a booster pack, that "rippled" top and bottem edge.
All the "rippled" cards I have ever seen have always been rares and only the
top of the card has been affected. It usually only affects the black boarder.
It's indented on both sides just like the top of the silver booster wrapping.
I've included a scan of Radiant in the e-mail but the ripple is invisible
against the black.
Blake
Later,
blake
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>
>I'll express my ... displeasure to the CEC guys in person at GenCon UK.
>
"Expression of Disgust"...new card from invasion and very nice. Anyone wanna
Jshaw2k
>buy one?
:)
You know Spam is not allowed here
:)
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"Disallowed Spam" Great card from 7th Edition and very nice too. Anyone wanna
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Steve Lord
> >You know Spam is not allowed here
>
> "Disallowed Spam" Great card from 7th Edition and very nice too. Anyone wanna
> buy two?
magicmart, I know you're joking ... but _please_ don't post joke sale
messages, it may send the message "Sales are allowed here" to newbies, and
they are NOT allowed.
Steve L
Cutting Edge Cards
>messages, it may send the message "Sales are allowed here" to newbies, and
>they are NOT allowed.
>
"worn(out) powerjoke" Getting a bit played now, losing it's sheen. anyone
want to errmmmm........
Ok..4 wouldn't be funnny. And don't tell me...3,2 and 1 weren't either.
:o)
Ingo Kemper
> 2: unique cards (i have never seen and will probably never see any of
> these):
> - 1996 World Champion card
> - Proposal
> - Splendid Genesis (geez, it's real, i saw it, or a very good proxy of
> it at the Worlds 2000)
And Fraternal ... something (sorry, I don't remember), the third
Garfield family card. ('Sneak into your parent's closet and get a deck.
Your new brother is joining the game.')
> 8: Other cards that are not related to any kind of competitive Magic
> (Misc):
> [...]
> - Cursed Scroll [?] (Japanese version with activation cost of 2)
AFAIK _all_ Japanese copies of Cursed Scroll were like that. If you want
to list all cards that were accidentally changed or mistranslated during
translation, you'll get a _very_ long list.
> X: Misc misc cards i have never seen [?]:
> - Abeyance (foil; test print run)
> - City of Traitors (foil; test print run)
I did see a set of all five foil City of Traitors (their text boxes had
the colors of the five basic land boxes) on the Spiel 1999 fair in
Essen. One of the single-card-dealers had them.
Ingo Kemper
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Ingo Kemper
> For the Ice Age promos, there were some that were apparently released
> ahead of the set's release but they were printed with the old mana symbols
> in Ice Age, while all the other cards got the new symbols, so that there's
> no way to distinguish between a promo and a normal version of that card.
Correct.
> I remember hearing that Norritt and
> Fylgya were promos, and Prismatic Ward has the old symbol so I guess that is
> too.
Chub Toad also was an Ice Age promo card.
Julian Lighton
Ingo Kemper <SkyG...@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>On 10 Aug 2000 15:51:31 GMT, Christopher Wiegert wrote:
>
>> For the Ice Age promos, there were some that were apparently released
>> ahead of the set's release but they were printed with the old mana symbols
>> in Ice Age, while all the other cards got the new symbols, so that there's
>> no way to distinguish between a promo and a normal version of that card.
>
>Correct.
Though I though that only the white symbol had changed.
>> I remember hearing that Norritt and
>> Fylgya were promos, and Prismatic Ward has the old symbol so I guess that is
>> too.
>
>Chub Toad also was an Ice Age promo card.
There were a lot of promo cards. Each magazine (or whatever) had two
cards. One varied, (I don't remember most of them, assuming I ever
knew.) and the other was a Norritt.
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The Doge
>On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:59:43 -0700, Blaz Antonic wrote:
>
>> 8: Other cards that are not related to any kind of competitive Magic
>> (Misc):
>> [...]
>> - Cursed Scroll [?] (Japanese version with activation cost of 2)
>
>AFAIK _all_ Japanese copies of Cursed Scroll were like that. If you want
>to list all cards that were accidentally changed or mistranslated during
>translation, you'll get a _very_ long list.
There is also a Japanese Cursed Scroll with the correct activation cost.
Given the Japanese people's penchant for perfection, it's not surprising that
a corrected version became available.