Henry
>havet...@earthlink.net (Henry Avetisyan) wrote:
>
>>Those of you (like me) who bought Corel Wordperfect Suite 7 and were
>>disappointed that it doesn't include Infocentral, for a limited time =
only, you
>>can download the full version of Infocentral 7 (WIN 95) version from =
Corel's
>>web site. www.corel.com
That's fine. Downloaded... now the dilemma is whether to continue using
Starfish Software's Sidekick 95 which is an excellent product, or switch =
to
the more cumbersome but more powerful Infocentral. It also seems to me =
that
IC is less well integrated with the rest of the Wordperfect 7 suite.
Any opinions on the matter?
Brian M. Harmer
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At 04:10 PM 10/31/96 +0000, J. Carl Uhrmacher wrote:
>havet...@earthlink.net (Henry Avetisyan) wrote:
>
>>Those of you (like me) who bought Corel Wordperfect Suite 7 and were
>>disappointed that it doesn't include Infocentral, for a limited time
only, you
>>can download the full version of Infocentral 7 (WIN 95) version from
Corel's
>>web site. www.corel.com
>>
>>Henry
Steve
>. . . And did you have a comment you wanted to add, Carl?
>
>At 04:10 PM 10/31/96 +0000, J. Carl Uhrmacher wrote:
... a bunch of junk
My appologies, my newsreader malfunctioned and posted a reply I did
not intend to send.
>Could one of you good people please tell those of us who don't already
>know what InfoCentral 7 is? Thanks very much.
> Steve
Dear Steve,
This is difficult. How do we explain music to the deaf and colours to
the blind? InfoCentral, well, it is unlike anytihing you've seen. One
could say: it is a database-application. That is right, if the Mona
Lisa is painted cotton. In InfoCentral you keep information on the
persons you know, but also of the documents and restaurants and
committees your friends are related to. For letters etc you stop using
file-names. Instead you find the person and see what letters you've
written to him and when he has called you and what's the name of his
mother.
This is a bit unusual, and Corel judged it at the beginning not
suitable for ordinary customers. Now they seem to have had a brainwave
and make it available by ftp. For a restricted time, they say. So
they'll return to the dark in due time. Thanks nevertheless, Corel! I
know of a few that didn't want to buy Suite 7 because it didn't
contain InfoCentral.
So, in short, Steve: don't try InfoCentral. It might change your life.
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Willem Smouter, Breukelen, The Netherlands.
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> Could one of you good people please tell those of us who don't already
> know what InfoCentral 7 is? Thanks very much.
>
> Steve
A PIM and group scheduling app, actually from Novell, which is likely why
it's put in the Pro Suite instead of the standard one. I hear it's pretty
complex to use, but very powerful.
Sanford M. Miller, M. D.
mil...@is4.nyu.edu
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited;
imagination encircles the world." --A. Einstein
Even if you love it, you may find the version I've seen to be frustrating.
It doesn't work and play well with the rest of PerfectOffice, Groupwise, or
whatever you call it.
At 08:32 PM 11/1/96 GMT, Willem Smouter wrote:
>Steve Harter <har...@INDIANA.EDU> wrote:
>
>>Could one of you good people please tell those of us who don't already
>>know what InfoCentral 7 is? Thanks very much.
>
>> Steve
>
>Dear Steve,
>This is difficult. How do we explain music to the deaf and colours to
>the blind? InfoCentral, well, it is unlike anytihing you've seen. One
>could say: it is a database-application. That is right, if the Mona
>Lisa is painted cotton. In InfoCentral you keep information on the
>persons you know, but also of the documents and restaurants and
>committees your friends are related to. For letters etc you stop using
>file-names. Instead you find the person and see what letters you've
>written to him and when he has called you and what's the name of his
>mother.
>This is a bit unusual, and Corel judged it at the beginning not
>suitable for ordinary customers. Now they seem to have had a brainwave
>and make it available by ftp. For a restricted time, they say. So
>they'll return to the dark in due time. Thanks nevertheless, Corel! I
>know of a few that didn't want to buy Suite 7 because it didn't
>contain InfoCentral.
>So, in short, Steve: don't try InfoCentral. It might change your life.
>
>
>--
>Willem Smouter, Breukelen, The Netherlands.
> mailto:wsm...@knoware.nl
> http://utopia.knoware.nl/users/wsmout/
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>This is a bit unusual, and Corel judged it at the beginning not
>suitable for ordinary customers.
It is unfortunate that most "ordinary" customers get scared and
confused when they see an uncluttered interface such as InfoCentral's.
There are no cute buttons to click or fancy pictures to stimulate
one's brain (just one simple toolbar). InfoCentral is about
flexibility and organizing information the way the user wants it to be
organized. Make no mistake, InfoCentral requires some cerebral
activity that is usually not necessary with other PIMs. I think it is
unfortunate that so many people get turned off by InfoCentral's
flexibility and philosophy in general.
In my mind, information is much more that appointments, addresses and
telephone calls. InfoCentral lets me manage places, objects of any
kind, documents and anything that I find worth organizing. Even more
significant is the ability to manage relationships between the various
pieces of information. It is the relationships between things that
give meaning to them (for example: an appointment does not mean much
on its own, but when it is related to a person, a project you are
currently working on and a couple of documents it gets a whole new
meaning). Unlike the majority of PIMs out there, InfoCentral let's
the user look at the information from a different perspective, it lets
him/her see the big picture. In other words, InfoCentral puts the "I"
back into PIMs. Most so called PIMs are really what I like to call
PAAMs (personal address and appointment managers).
IMHO, InfoCentral is an excellent piece of software and as such it
should receive special attention from Corel. Sure there are still
some rough edges that need work, but the potential is there. Look at
Microsoft, they decided to replace Schedule+ with Outlook97. And
guess what? Outlook uses a lot of the same principles that InfoCentral
introduced when it was launched a couple of years back. Novell
designers were two years ahead of MS, too bad the product never gained
the popularity it deserves.
For people thinking about trying IC:
1. Download and install the program
2. Read all the manuals and help files
3. Spend 30-60 minutes learning the basics. Try to add objects, make
connections, and display info in different ways.
4. Don't use the program for couple of days, instead think about your
information needs. What do you need to keep track of? What are the
relationships between the bits of information you intend to manage?
What do you need to know about particular objects (time, date, name,
address, height, width, cost, color, author, speed, depth, age,
distance, duration.......anything!).
5. When you have a pretty good idea of what it is you are trying to do
"fire up" the program and start managing information the way YOU want
to.
6. Be patient, trying to improve the efficiency with which you manage
complex information is a never ending process. Because of its
flexibility InfoCentral has the ability to grow with you!
Tip: If you have questions regarding IC a good place to go to is the
IC discussion area on CorelNet. The URL is:
http://www.corelnet.com/corelnet/hyper/infotalk/index.html
>Now they seem to have had a brainwave
>and make it available by ftp. For a restricted time, they say. So
>they'll return to the dark in due time. Thanks nevertheless, Corel! I
>know of a few that didn't want to buy Suite 7 because it didn't
>contain InfoCentral.
I guess everything I've said so far makes it obvious that I am on that
list (:
P.S. Sorry to go off about InfoCentral on a WP list. Judging by the
length of this thread people seem to be interested in IC.
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address or key servers everywhere
Well spoken Aleksandar! To add to the testimonial I can say
that I started with IC 1.0 (before it was a part of Perfect
Office) and have been using it and IC 1.1 for over three
years now in my legal practice. There is no better PIM
available, IMHO, for those who need to catalogue and
retrieve extensive amounts of inter-related information. IC
7.0 is definitely a step forward and well worth the
investment of time to learn its use for all but the most
casual users of PIMs.
Regards,
Bob
Aleksandar,
>IMHO, InfoCentral is an excellent piece of software and as such it
>should receive special attention from Corel. Sure there are still
>some rough edges that need work, but the potential is there. Look at
>Microsoft, they decided to replace Schedule+ with Outlook97. And
>guess what? Outlook uses a lot of the same principles that InfoCentral
>introduced when it was launched a couple of years back. Novell
>designers were two years ahead of MS, too bad the product never gained
>the popularity it deserves.
Unfortunately, Corel (like Novell before it) has little idea about what it has
in IC. With our help, a number of our clients now "live" on the IC desktop and
manage all their information from within IC, using IC's CARF capability to
integrate all their key productivity applications and information. A number of
them have indicated that they'd give up WordPerfect before they'd give up IC
<grin>.
In our experience, the combination of IC's unimposing interface and most
users' familiarity with traditional PIMs (sorry PAAMs!) means that it is very
difficult to have people understand the power and benefits of IC simply by
talking to them about it. We have found that the most effective way to
"explain" IC to clients is to implement iBases for them. Once they play with
the iBase they don't need much convincing to stay with it. Of course, it's not
always easy to convince a client to let you implement a system they don't
quite understand.
Regards
Charles
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>
> Unfortunately, Corel (like Novell before it) has little idea about what it has
> in IC.
[snip]
>
> Regards
> Charles
>
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Did I miss something? Last I heard InfoCentral was still a Novell product.
Did Corel take it over?
Sanford M. Miller, M. D.
mil...@is4.nyu.edu
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited;
imagination encircles the world." --A. Einstein
I have tried numerous times to download IC 7 but I never get a reply from
the ftp site - is it available anywhere else (on AOL for instance)?
>Did I miss something? Last I heard InfoCentral was still a Novell product.
>Did Corel take it over?
Yes, it's "Corel InfoCentral" now.
Yes, that's one of the improvements in 7: birthdays show up quite nicely
on the calendar. I dunno where else it is available; I got mine with
Corel Office Pro. Keep trying.