The Baghdad Blogger takes note of Troy - hiliarious!
jim
wrote:
>Today, the blogger known as Riverbend, has some comments
>on the fake site riverSbend that Troy referred us to.
>
>By the way, where in hell IS Troy?
>
>Baghdad Burning
Troy seems to have taken socret further then any other old gummers if
he is getting this kind of attention! Assuming of course if he is the
real culprit, which of course he is not. Have you gotten such
notoriety Rita?
>... I'll meet you 'round the bend my friend, where hearts can heal and souls can
>mend...
>
>
>Riverbend and Multiple Personalities...
>No, I do not have Multiple Personality Disorder. Many of you have pointed out a
>fake "Baghdad Burning" site at riverSbend.blogspot.com (notice the 'S'). It is
>not being run by me in parallel to my own site- I knew it existed for some time
>now (a friend pointed it out to me in late September). Apparently, someone was
>so angry at my site, they decided to make an identical site named "Baghdad
>Burning" being written by, supposedly, me. The contents are almost completely
>opposite to what I write- and most of the posts are just copied and pasted from
>different sources (mostly USA government sources).
>
>When I first noticed it, the first post was on September 11, I think. It was
>about American troops and Iraqi women falling in love with each other, etc. etc.
>Apparently, someone pointed out the fact that while the fake BB site began in
>September, my site began in August. Soooooooo, our fraud backdated his posts and
>created some hollow, silly archives dating back to July. Anyone who uses Blogger
>knows how easy that is.
>
>I wrote to Blogger, telling them about the site and how the person was
>pretending to be me, they said that if I wanted to make an official complaint, I
>had to mail in (by snail-mail) a letter complaining that someone was stealing
>the contents of my site. Besides my identity, the only thing the fraud has
>stolen is the line I use, "I'll meet you 'round the bend my friend, where hearts
>can heal and souls can mend" And yes, this is MY line- it's a line from a poem I
>wrote for a friend? perhaps one day I'll post the complete poem.
>
>A great guy named Brian has been following this fraud carefully. Check out the
>site http://suzerainty.blogspot.com for details. Another blogger has more
>information on the culprit, check out: http://www.gorenfeld.net/john/blog.html
>Thank you both of you.
>
>Now, while I am very flattered there are people out there taking so much trouble
>to prove me wrong, I am rather annoyed that it wasn't all done with better
>style. I mean, the guy who runs the fake site is retired, for God's sake- he has
>all the time in the world to make me look bad. I think it only fair to demand he
>should have put in a little more effort. Furthermore, I don't like the way many
>words are misspelled and that the grammar is just atrocious in an apparent
>attempt to make it look more "Iraqi"- or maybe that's just the way this person
>actually writes.
>
>My favorite post is the first one, supposedly written on July 6:
>
>"Time to Blog!
>
>We finally returned to my Baghdad. The evening walks along the river are much
>refreshing. We were living with relatives near Erbul for the better part of five
>months. al-Jazeera kept us informed regarding the war. I gasped and held my
>breath not believing as we watched Baghdad burning."
>
>The Real Riverbend's Comment: Huh? Erbul? Where is that? Somewhere between
>Kirkuk and Erbil?! Give me a break. Another part I loved was one of the posts
>describing how the dear 'girl' got a tour of Baghdad Airport (which no one is
>allowed near): please don't miss that one- the blogger might change it. I can't
>decide which is worse- the dry stuff copied and pasted directly from
>governmental sites, or when Troy gets lyrical and writes how 'walks along the
>river are much refreshing'.
>
>The writer of the fake riverSbend site is someone named Troy who is ex-military,
>retired, and a GOP Team Leader (?):
>
>El Solerito Troy,
>
>Artist, HAM, Korean War, Reg. Army & USAF Retired, MOPH L38342 Unit 1849, Phi
>Theta Kappa, RNC 146441197-D186, GOP Team Leader, NRA 040959746
>
>
>One thing our friend Troy didn't take into consideration while writing the blog
>was the following: Even if you backdate your archives, the month you originally
>started with won't contain the faked archives. If you check out the September
>archives for the fake riverSbend blog, you'll see that the list of archives on
>the left only dates back to September- which is when the blog originally
>started!!
>
>Finally, thank you, dear Troy- the fake riverSbend- for trying to imitate
>Baghdad Burning- I am flattered. However, 1. You make a horrible 24-year-old
>girl from 'Erbul', 2. When you copy and paste stuff from articles and sites, try
>to make sure the date *you* post them on isn't before the original date the
>material was posted, and 3. Find a hobby- get a cat, grow a garden, play chess,
>golf- i.e. Get a life.
>
>Drop Troy a line- he obviously has lots of time to correspond- he has several
>email addresses, this is one of them: bul...@enesaca.net
>Brian over at suzerainty.blogspot.com has several more.
>
>
>- posted by river @ 9:31 PM
>
>http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
Jim Chamblee
> Troy seems to have taken socret further then any other old gummers if
> he is getting this kind of attention! Assuming of course if he is the
> real culprit, which of course he is not. Have you gotten such
> notoriety Rita?
Troy and all his buddies, including you, are the direct descendents of the
Watergate burglars.
What you cannot win in a fair exchange, you will try to win by lies and
deception.
The current Bush Administration has carried this concept to its full
development. Everything for them is necessarily a lie and a deception;
because they are built on lies and deception.
The fact that Troy does not posess the self respect and honor to avoid
forgery says volumes about him.
William B. Boyd
> Today, the blogger known as Riverbend, has some comments
> on the fake site riverSbend that Troy referred us to.
>
> By the way, where in hell IS Troy?
>
> Baghdad Burning
By the time you research all the links and kinks of this Blogger
situation you have wasted an entire day at the PC. ( I read slow
when I think it's going to be interesting, but it never was.)
But, who ever the Riversbend poster is or was , has struck a nerve,
with all the reviews and investigation that has taken place and
notoriety that has been drawn to the case. One might think Riverbend
and associates are in fear of being discovered that they are too
actually fake. But I do not know who is who and really don't care.
The posts of Riverbend just rambles on like a soap, and the other
one posts information found elsewhere. As far as the value of the
bloggs if any would be the alleged fake one at least puts news
events under one manuscript so as to prevent Surfing to find them.
This could be Troy, as that's most of the way he posts here, copy
and paste. But then it looks just like Sordo and James as well as
many others including myself. But now Rita comes up with a lot of
her own verbiage I assume because other publications don't print her
level of animosity. My wandering around the web took me to these
links, check some of them out.
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
http://riverbend.com/
http://www.awakenedwoman.com/girl_blog.
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_riverbendblog_archive.html
http://riversbendsblogs.blogspot.com/
http://riverbend.blogspot.com/
--
Posted by HOPPIE, 30 Years Active Duty ,13 Campaigns Vietnam, Life
Member; Am.Lgn,DAV,VFW,AFSA
William B. Boyd
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/003676.html
Posted by: Sylvia Li on September 24, 2003 02:20 AM
"Riversbend" looks like a faked site to me - a website deliberately
set up as a foil to the original Riverbend. I've read many pro-war
rightwingers trashing Riverbend (she's a Communist, she's a
Ba'athist, she hates Bush, she's a spoiled brat) and from comments
on her blog, she gets hate mail on a daily basis.
The website www.btselem.org used to have a faked "mirror site" that
used www.btselem.com as the domain name, but instead of statistics
about casualties on both sides of the intifada, btselem.com linked
to polemical essays about the evil Palestinians.
Posted by: Yonmei
jim
wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:24:28 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:21:27 GMT Rita Rita <rm...@nyrealbox.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Today, the blogger known as Riverbend, has some comments
>>>on the fake site riverSbend that Troy referred us to.
>>>
>>>By the way, where in hell IS Troy?
>>>
>>>Baghdad Burning
>>
>>Troy seems to have taken socret further then any other old gummers if
>>he is getting this kind of attention! Assuming of course if he is the
>>real culprit, which of course he is not. Have you gotten such
>>notoriety Rita?
>
>No, I don't think Troy is writing this one. The one I think he was (is) writing
>can be found at:
>
>http://www.blogger.com/blogspot/notfound.pyra?url=/servlet/BlogSpot=solerito
>
>and as you can see if you click on the link, Troy has wiped it out.
>
>
Talking about getting panties in a twist. I just enjoy all the
twisting about the blog.
jim
The spoof points out the obvious. Bloggers can be anyone, anywhere in
the world with their own little reasons for using an anonymous media.
I don't believe any of the bloggers and is only useful to those with
nothing better to do but read or write them.
I credit riversbend with counting significant coup on the crowd at
large. Took them for good ride. Glad to have been invited to post
as rivers and regret passing up the opportunity now as I see it did
score some points. ;)
jim
wrote:
>Rita thinks the whole thing is a gas. But look at the bright side.
>Our Boy Troy has made the big time as he now is discussed in
>many blogs. Where is Troy? Has he been called in by the
>Republican National Committee and slapped on the hand for
>not being clever enough to avoid exposure? Or is he being given
>a medal to go along with his signed portrait of Bush?
>Inquiring minds want to know:)
You have to know that Sordo is Troy, is William, is Castor, is Cajun,
is GLC, is Connie, is me and a multitude of other personalities.
All are alternate personalities of one person contracted by the RNC
thru the witness protection program. Payment is based on production
and responses. Responses quoting or siting Sordo for example get
double payment when from liberals.
I only offer this information as the work may be bid out to Nigeria
where they have much greater imagination and ability to cloud sending
ISP. My only worry now is that the GLC persona will ship me off to
Elvis-land. ;)
Jim Chamblee
> Here is another comment found about Riversbend.
Have you noticed that every time you read something that you don't agree
with, you claim that the writer or document is a fake?
Further, have you noticed that you've never been correct even once?
jim
wrote:
>Actually, riversbend didn't fool anyone. But the whole blog and
>fake blog saga does show how the Internet reaches out across
>the world, and gets people from all over involved in discussing
>current events via this medium. There must be millions of blogs
>on the net, and yet some come to the fore -- they are unique or
>so interesting that people mention them and the search engines
>pick them up. And some are so popular that people go to the
>trouble to copycat them with fake sites expressing an opposite
>point of view. So it is really a tribute to Riverbend that people are
>faking her site.
Rita, you give too much credit to this woman. I have it on good
authority that the spoof was done specifically for you to point out
how easy it is to fiddle a site. Nothing about her being widely read
at all! Just another turn of the dial on playing games in socret.
Cheers. ;)
If her blogs were not being widely read and making
>an impact, there would be no point in bothering. I imagine she
>feel flattered that they do bother.
I suspect she really believes the thing was done for her benifit.
Ever heard of firing one round for multiple effects?
jim
wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:33:43 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Rita, you give too much credit to this woman. I have it on good
>>authority that the spoof was done specifically for you to point out
>>how easy it is to fiddle a site. Nothing about her being widely read
>>at all! Just another turn of the dial on playing games in socret.
>>
>Sure it is easy to fake a site. But a bit harder to hide fact the site
>is a fake. One reads to determine credibility and makes a
>decision. Any of us could replicate any of the blog sites if we set
>our minds to it. I guess it was worth Troy's time to try. I think a
>number of different people have been contributing to the fake
>riversbend site, by the way. Very different writing styles and
>level of competence. I am sure Troy and company had fun with
>the fake site. Why not? The Internet is a "free country".
Too bad you were not invited to participate. Go start your own, eh?
>When I first went to newsgroups I read a group called
>alt.religion.kibology -- it was a jokey kind of group and I
>posted as Social Scientist and pretended I was making a
>study of the group. And some in the group actually bit and
>took me seriously. Now that was a lot of fun.
Did you get tired of it? I guess you can appreciate others who play
other renditions of 'internet playhouse'.
William Boyd
> Sure it is easy to fake a site. But a bit harder to hide fact the site
> is a fake. One reads to determine credibility and makes a
> decision. Any of us could replicate any of the blog sites if we set
> our minds to it. I guess it was worth Troy's time to try. I think a
> number of different people have been contributing to the fake
> riversbend site, by the way. Very different writing styles and
> level of competence. I am sure Troy and company had fun with
> the fake site. Why not? The Internet is a "free country".
>
> When I first went to newsgroups I read a group called
> alt.religion.kibology -- it was a jokey kind of group and I
> posted as Social Scientist and pretended I was making a
> study of the group. And some in the group actually bit and
> took me seriously. Now that was a lot of fun. I got some Emails
> from long time members of the group congratulating me on my
> successful impersonation.
With those thoughts in mind could a person set up a fake blog.
Faking who they were just enough to let it be detected that it was
some one they did not care that much about. While, all the time
being able to hide their own identity. Other words was the fake blog
actually constructed by Troy. I have less than one year experience
with computers, I can't answer this.
William Boyd
Where is your comments stemmed from, I only posted something found
elsewhere and provided a link to go see for your self. I haven't
claimed that anything is fake, just that it appears that way or has
so many flaws in it that other people point them out and I tend to
also doubt the validity of the post. But before I actually say some
thing is fake I'll have the proof. I could say it appears that you
have become senile and to old to understand what you read or post,
but again I don't have enough proof so I will hold those comments
for later.
Bill
news:pjp5qvc9l1ft8gcs1...@4ax.com:
-buncha stff snpped-
> When I first went to newsgroups I read a group called
> alt.religion.kibology -- it was a jokey kind of group and I
> posted as Social Scientist and pretended I was making a
> study of the group. And some in the group actually bit and
> took me seriously. Now that was a lot of fun. I got some Emails
> from long time members of the group congratulating me on my
> successful impersonation.
You know James "Kibo" Parry?
Many neurons have been lost in that group.
He is now working in Brookline, MA, where I grew up.
--
Pull the string to reply
jim
<Ho...@cowboy.com> wrote:
It is very unclear who did it and the original idiot who blames Troy
also says he is Sordo. I know they are not a single person and are
separated by mountains and several states, but don't try to convince
the sleuths. I find the whole thing funny and appreciate how the
thing got a lot more mileage then I ever expected
jim
wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 01:49:28 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:58:12 GMT Rita Rita <funan...@nyc.rr.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:33:43 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Rita, you give too much credit to this woman. I have it on good
>>>>authority that the spoof was done specifically for you to point out
>>>>how easy it is to fiddle a site. Nothing about her being widely read
>>>>at all! Just another turn of the dial on playing games in socret.
>>>>
>>>Sure it is easy to fake a site. But a bit harder to hide fact the site
>>>is a fake. One reads to determine credibility and makes a
>>>decision. Any of us could replicate any of the blog sites if we set
>>>our minds to it. I guess it was worth Troy's time to try. I think a
>>>number of different people have been contributing to the fake
>>>riversbend site, by the way. Very different writing styles and
>>>level of competence. I am sure Troy and company had fun with
>>>the fake site. Why not? The Internet is a "free country".
>>
>>Too bad you were not invited to participate. Go start your own, eh?
>
>I'd rather play with a nest of scorpions than with the crew that
>posts G.O.P. boilerplate:)
GOP boilerplate? Do you really believe that? Get your tounge out of
your cheek now. ;')
>>
>>>When I first went to newsgroups I read a group called
>>>alt.religion.kibology -- it was a jokey kind of group and I
>>>posted as Social Scientist and pretended I was making a
>>>study of the group. And some in the group actually bit and
>>>took me seriously. Now that was a lot of fun.
>>
>>Did you get tired of it? I guess you can appreciate others who play
>>other renditions of 'internet playhouse'.
>
>Sure I can. And yes, I got tired of it in a few months. Checked back
>a time or two to see if there was an opening I might grab for another
>spoof, but nothing seemed to come to mind.
>
>Also at one time I used to post satiric replies in some newsgroup
>with a whole lot of posters with conspiracy theories. Can't remember
>the name of the group. The fun there was to do it in such a way
>the nutcases thought I was serious but to be so far out no one with
>a brain could take it seriously. A delicate balancing act.
>
>I admire a really skillful spoof. Troy's didn't rise to that level,
>very clumsy.
You still believe it was Troy? Silly woman. Do your own sleuthing
Rita because you are smarter then the idiot who thinks he has the
right critter. Troy sure as hell ain't Sordo and the sleuth was wrong
on most of his other assumptions.
The trick would have been to copy precisely
>Riverbend's writing style, but just throw in some zingers here
>and there -- not make it obvious such as posting G.O.P.
>boilerplate.
>
>Have you ever seen my website that is a spoof on
>the soc.retirement gunslingers? A little thing I "ran up
>on my machine" one boring winter. More fun than
>knitting.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/nitany_98/
I have not been there yet. Maybe sometime later.
Jim Chamblee
> You still believe it was Troy? Silly woman. Do your own sleuthing
> Rita because you are smarter then the idiot who thinks he has the
> right critter. Troy sure as hell ain't Sordo and the sleuth was wrong
> on most of his other assumptions.
It was Troy, and the original sleuth, who had no connection to SR, made no
claim linking Sordo w. Troy.
And it was GOP boilerplate like the kind Troy specializes in.
William Boyd
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:24:40 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>I admire a really skillful spoof. Troy's didn't rise to that level,
>>>very clumsy.
>>
>>You still believe it was Troy? Silly woman. Do your own sleuthing
>>Rita because you are smarter then the idiot who thinks he has the
>>right critter. Troy sure as hell ain't Sordo and the sleuth was wrong
>>on most of his other assumptions.
>
>
> I said I don't know who did either site for sure, Solerito sounds like
> Troy, Riversbend like it was written by a number of people. At
> any rate, it is now a dead horse. And yes, I know the difference
> between Troy and Sordo. Troy is the guy who posts LOL in
> response to Sordo's posts:) Sordo posts from various right wing
> publications and Troy from the Republican National Committee.
>
OK Rita, here is your chance to be the sleuth, go sleuth it out. You
said they had a better grammar content and spelling than Troy. You
might note that Troy has not posted for several days. You would
think sense we have been talking about him he would have replied in
his own defense if he is not off across country on another vacation.
You might also note that the Riversbend Blog was updated yesterday,
as well as each day last week. I also noted the blog was updated on
days that Troy didn't post here as well as some days where he did
post here the blog was not updated. You would think they would
parallel each other, but they don't. I have not been posting long
enough to be able to detect style of Troy and Sordo or any one else
for that matter. But the blog looks well educated to me. What is GOP
boilerplate, I didn't see it in the blog, or is it what Troy posts
here, what do you mean?
jim
As usual, you make a lot of sense. Perhaps it it off to Spain again
for Troy.
William Boyd
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:55:35 -0600, William Boyd <Ho...@cowboy.com> wrote:
>
>
> . But the blog looks well educated to me. What is GOP
>
>>boilerplate, I didn't see it in the blog, or is it what Troy posts
>>here, what do you mean?
>
>
> Some of the stuff on Riversbend blog are from the U.S.
> State Department:
>
> Google turned up:
>
> ... (USAID) A second food processing plant reopened this week in Al Kut, Wasit
> Governorate,
> where Research Triangle Institute assisted Iraqi staff in installing a ...
> usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/newiraq/ - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> And Riversbend posted:
>
> Friday, September 26, 2003
>
> Did you know
>
> A second food processing plant reopened this week in Al Kut, Wasit Governorate,
> where Research Triangle Institute assisted Iraqi staff in installing a new
> generator at a meat processing plant. The plant reopening will create up to 50
> new jobs and increase production and food safety at the plant, which serves
> 350,000 Al Kut residents.
>
> Work on the Abu-Ruwaia and Im-Rwaia health clinics in the Karbala Governorate
> was completed last week. The activities, supported by the International Rescue
> Committee (IRC), included community outreach and the supply of furniture and
> equipment.
> - posted by . @ 1:43 AM
>
> This state department site seems to be a source of Troy's info posted
> to soc.retirement and now it is also being used for the Riversbend site.
>
The state department site is an open source for many people and they
repost that info on the NG, obviously Troy as well. I think I'll go
with your comment that we don't know who's blog it is and call it a
dead horse.
Life Experience
>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 01:49:28 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:58:12 GMT Rita Rita <funan...@nyc.rr.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:33:43 GMT, jim <j...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Rita, you give too much credit to this woman. I have it on good
>>>>authority that the spoof was done specifically for you to point out
>>>>how easy it is to fiddle a site. Nothing about her being widely read
>>>>at all! Just another turn of the dial on playing games in socret.
>>>>
>>>Sure it is easy to fake a site. But a bit harder to hide fact the site
>>>is a fake. One reads to determine credibility and makes a
>>>decision. Any of us could replicate any of the blog sites if we set
>>>our minds to it. I guess it was worth Troy's time to try. I think a
>>>number of different people have been contributing to the fake
>>>riversbend site, by the way. Very different writing styles and
>>>level of competence. I am sure Troy and company had fun with
>>>the fake site. Why not? The Internet is a "free country".
>>
>>Too bad you were not invited to participate. Go start your own, eh?
>
>I'd rather play with a nest of scorpions than with the crew that
>posts G.O.P. boilerplate:)
>>
>>>When I first went to newsgroups I read a group called
>>>alt.religion.kibology -- it was a jokey kind of group and I
>>>posted as Social Scientist and pretended I was making a
>>>study of the group. And some in the group actually bit and
>>>took me seriously. Now that was a lot of fun.
>>
>>Did you get tired of it? I guess you can appreciate others who play
>>other renditions of 'internet playhouse'.
>
>Sure I can. And yes, I got tired of it in a few months. Checked back
>a time or two to see if there was an opening I might grab for another
>spoof, but nothing seemed to come to mind.
>
>Also at one time I used to post satiric replies in some newsgroup
>with a whole lot of posters with conspiracy theories. Can't remember
>the name of the group. The fun there was to do it in such a way
>the nutcases thought I was serious but to be so far out no one with
>a brain could take it seriously. A delicate balancing act.
>
>I admire a really skillful spoof. Troy's didn't rise to that level,
>very clumsy. The trick would have been to copy precisely
>Riverbend's writing style, but just throw in some zingers here
>and there -- not make it obvious such as posting G.O.P.
>boilerplate.
>
>Have you ever seen my website that is a spoof on
>the soc.retirement gunslingers? A little thing I "ran up
>on my machine" one boring winter. More fun than
>knitting.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/nitany_98/
>
Why not fashion your next spoof as a humble person? That personnae
would be difficult to crack.