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Mar 12, 2004, 5:37:23 PM3/12/04
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When I open a .ppt file using PowerPoint 2003 I get the following message -
"This presentation cannot be edited because it contains a read-only embedded
font". Is there any way that I can edit the file? - Thanks for your help


Sonia

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Mar 12, 2004, 6:07:57 PM3/12/04
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Nope. The font is not licensed to the owner for "editable embedding".
They've sent it to you for viewing only, intentionally or unintentionally.
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Rick Altman

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Mar 12, 2004, 7:11:47 PM3/12/04
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There is actually a way that you can edit the file:

You must acquire the typeface.

If you get the typeface and install it on your system, PowerPoint will
loosen its grip. It will use the installed typeface instead of the embedded
one and will no longer impose that dialog box. Save and Save As will be
available once again, and order will be restored.

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John Langhans [MSFT]

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Mar 15, 2004, 12:08:18 PM3/15/04
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[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]

Hello,

This occurs if a presentation contains an embedded font that is licensed
for Print & Preview only. Due to stricter adherence to font licensing
restrictions in PowerPoint 2003 presentations with this kind of embedded
font cannot be edited in PowerPoint 2003 (even though they could be edited
in previous versions of PowerPoint).

Here's a link to a KB article that describes a resolution which involves
opening the presentation in an earlier version of PowerPoint and removing
the Print & Preview only embedded fonts and replacing them with fonts whose
embedding license allows for editing.

827405 You Cannot Edit or Save a PowerPoint Presentation if It Contains an
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=827405

If you (or anyone else reading this message) have suggestions for how
PowerPoint should handle the legal restrictions with license restricted
embedded fonts, don't forget to send your feedback to Microsoft at:

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state
your wish but also WHY it is important to you that your product suggestion
be implemented by Microsoft. Microsoft receives thousands of product
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development cycle, there are only sufficient resources to address the ones
that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible.

IMPORTANT: Each submission should be a single suggestion (not a list of
suggestions).

John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
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Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
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For FAQ's, highlights and top issues, visit the Microsoft PowerPoint
support center at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=ppt
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at:
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Rick Altman

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Mar 15, 2004, 11:12:24 PM3/15/04
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Hi John --

Thanks for the elaboration. Here is what I do not understand: If there is a
typeface with print and preview rights only, how come the ENTIRE
presentation is locked out for editing? That seems pretty draconian -- is it
the only way to ensure that the license is adhered to?


Rick A.


Steve Rindsberg

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Mar 16, 2004, 2:34:26 PM3/16/04
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I expect if you were allowed to open the presentation, the problem would become
"How are we going to track what this guy edits and make sure that he only
touches the stuff that isn't formatted with ForbiddenFont_Bold?"

That's a whole lotta code to write in support of a feature that not too many
people use, or to get around a problem that doesn't bite all that many people.

Still, it would be so much easier for all concerned if:

A) There were a warning on save_with_embedded that you're creating a large
problem for somebody down the line by embedding these particular fonts

B) There were a warning on open about WHY you're hosed and WHICH EXACT FONTS
did the dirty to you

C) You could open and do a font substitute then save. Only in the deepest,
darkest, most arcane and cobweb-draped recesses of a corporate attorney's brain
could this *possibly* be construed as "editing". And this one change would
solve the whole problem nicely.

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
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PPTools: www.pptools.com

John Langhans [MSFT]

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Mar 16, 2004, 3:58:43 PM3/16/04
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[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]

| From: Steve Rindsberg <ab...@localhost.com>
|
| Still, it would be so much easier for all concerned if:
|
| A) There were a warning on save_with_embedded that you're creating a
large
| problem for somebody down the line by embedding these particular fonts
|
| B) There were a warning on open about WHY you're hosed and WHICH EXACT
FONTS
| did the dirty to you
|
| C) You could open and do a font substitute then save. Only in the
deepest,
| darkest, most arcane and cobweb-draped recesses of a corporate attorney's
brain
| could this *possibly* be construed as "editing". And this one change
would
| solve the whole problem nicely.
|

All valid suggestions <hint, hint, wink>

Rick Altman

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Mar 17, 2004, 12:08:53 PM3/17/04
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Amen to all of the above...!


Steve Rindsberg

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Mar 22, 2004, 4:58:37 PM3/22/04
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Thanks, John.

Cleaned it up, did the deed.

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Steve Rindsberg

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Mar 22, 2004, 4:58:37 PM3/22/04
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In article <#wNgBKED...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, Rick Altman wrote:
> Amen to all of the above...!
>

As John so aptly put it:


All valid suggestions <hint, hint, wink>

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

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