10 Activations per year or for all eternity?
Brian Smith
However, time marches on and older machines die or are otherwise upgraded.
Thus, we end up with a stream of re-installs that cannot be avoided.
Should I unsubscribe from MSDN and subscribe again under another name, or
can I expect some liberty over time as to the 10 PC limit?
Andy Boyd [MS]
machines will definitely count as an additional activation. However, if you
contact your customer service rep, then they should be able to help with
getting additional activations. If you let your subscription expire and get
a new subscription, then you get a new set of 10 keys. If you renew your
existing subscription, you keep your existing keys.
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Leo Havmøller
upgraded.
> > Thus, we end up with a stream of re-installs that cannot be avoided.
Andy, I have often wondered why isnt there a "deactivate windows" feature
for this?
Leo Havmøller.
Richard
Geez. What do you expect for $2800, anyway?
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Lawrence Groves
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> The 10 PC limit uses the same rules as retail activations, so switching
> machines will definitely count as an additional activation. However, if
you
> contact your customer service rep, then they should be able to help with
> getting additional activations. If you let your subscription expire and
get
> a new subscription, then you get a new set of 10 keys. If you renew your
> existing subscription, you keep your existing keys.
It seems that this becomes a problem for so many people. Wouldn't it be
simpler to reset the activation count each time a customer renewed their
subscription?
Loz.
Brian Smith
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This is what I was hoping for from Microsoft. After all, I don't use this
to install onto customer machines. I do software development where I
install XP onto different hardware configurations for testing my product.
With IBM hard drives dying after 6 months, new motherboards becoming
available, and simply needing to re-install because the software messes up
the system.... I use those 10 activations over about 18 months. That's not
mentioning the times I had to reinstall because I made some mistake
installing XP onto a system.
With Windows 2000, it was much easier to support my test systems. Now, if
you could give me an easy way to revoke an activation... (perhaps because a
hard drive died or because I know I won't be using that system anymore)...
things would be much simpler. With the information gathered by the
activation process, I could even click and choose the systems that I no
longer need at an online website. OK, I'm dreaming now, but...
Brian Smith
-glenn-
Can't you just save the Windows activation file (wpa.dbl) before
reinstalling then restore it after the install? I believe this works fine
for Windows XP but I don't know if there is a similar technique for
Office XP.
Note that I'm not promoting anyone circumvent the MSDN licensing terms
but throwing out an old test system and replacing it with a new one sure
seems to follow the licensing terms to me.
-glenn-
Michael G. Schneider
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> "Brian Smith" <bri...@cmicro.com> wrote in
> news:ecXXtCu#CHA...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
> > With Windows 2000, it was much easier to support my test systems.
> > Now, if you could give me an easy way to revoke an activation...
> > (perhaps because a hard drive died or because I know I won't be using
> > that system anymore)... things would be much simpler.
> Can't you just save the Windows activation file (wpa.dbl) before
> reinstalling then restore it after the install? I believe this works fine
> for Windows XP but I don't know if there is a similar technique for
> Office XP.
[1] If a PC is simply reinstalled, copying wpa.dbl isn't necessary. The
activation process is smart enough, and doesn't count the installion as a
new installation.
[2] If the old PC is thrown away and a new PC is installed, copying wpa.dbl
will not work. The new PC willl not accept the wpa.dbl.
I do not know for sure, whether [1] really works. MS tells so, but the
customer has no possibility to check his activations. This should be
improved by MS.
MS should do something against the problems of [2]. Having just 10
activations for all times, is bad. It should be possible, to "give back" an
activation.
Michael G. Schneider
Brian Smith
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> [1] If a PC is simply reinstalled, copying wpa.dbl isn't necessary. The
> activation process is smart enough, and doesn't count the installion as a
> new installation.
>
> [2] If the old PC is thrown away and a new PC is installed, copying
wpa.dbl
> will not work. The new PC willl not accept the wpa.dbl.
>
> I do not know for sure, whether [1] really works. MS tells so, but the
> customer has no possibility to check his activations. This should be
> improved by MS.
>
> MS should do something against the problems of [2]. Having just 10
> activations for all times, is bad. It should be possible, to "give back"
an
> activation.
The biggest fear that I have is trying to re-install XP on the weekend or
at night (e.g. recovering from a HD failure) and being unable to activate
the replacement. This leads to missed deadlines and potentially to
reduced stability of my job. Worst of all is that I wouldn't know in
advance
that the activation would fail.
Again, I'm just trying to use my license in a legal manner while still
getting
my job done.
Ronald
That's quite some more than 1 weekend.....
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