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Darren and Marla Welson

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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I do not seem to have any man pages loaded. I installed the entire
distribution of Solaris 8, but the man command says there are no pages for
that topic. Does anyone know how this may have happened? What is the
fastest way to add these man pages--all of them?

Martin Paul

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Darren and Marla Welson <2wel...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> I do not seem to have any man pages loaded. I installed the entire
> distribution of Solaris 8, but the man command says there are no pages for
> that topic.

for which topic ? maybe there really is no man page for this one topic -
you didn't tell which, so no one can say ..

> Does anyone know how this may have happened?

The man pages (well, most of them) are in package SUNWman, which indeed
gets installed when you install the entire distribution. Use pkginfo
to check if it's there. If it's not, take a look at
/var/sadm/system/logs/install_log, and see if there were problems
during the install.

> fastest way to add these man pages--all of them?

pkgadd SUNman (from the OS CD).

hth, mp.
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Charles Combs

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Try

# echo $MANPATH

Is it set for the man locations? Should have something like /usr/share/man.

Darren and Marla Welson wrote:

> I do not seem to have any man pages loaded. I installed the entire
> distribution of Solaris 8, but the man command says there are no pages for

> that topic. Does anyone know how this may have happened? What is the

Chris Thompson

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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In article <8ftn8f$4ca6$1...@www.univie.ac.at>,
Martin Paul <mar...@par.univie.ac.at> wrote:

>Darren and Marla Welson <2wel...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> I do not seem to have any man pages loaded. I installed the entire
>> distribution of Solaris 8, but the man command says there are no pages for
>> that topic.
>
>for which topic ? maybe there really is no man page for this one topic -
>you didn't tell which, so no one can say ..
>
>> Does anyone know how this may have happened?
>
>The man pages (well, most of them) are in package SUNWman, which indeed
>gets installed when you install the entire distribution. Use pkginfo
>to check if it's there. If it's not, take a look at
>/var/sadm/system/logs/install_log, and see if there were problems
>during the install.

Solaris 8 differs from previous releases in that the packages are
distributed over twop CDROMs rather than one. SUNWman is on the
second one. From previous posts I get the impression that sometimes
things go wrong during installation in such a way that the expected
packages from the second CDROM never get installed.

If you boot from the first package CDROM (not the "web" installer)
then enough gets installed from that to make a bootable system, and
when you do that the install in meant to carry on using the second
one. Did this happen for you?

Chris Thompson
Email: cet1 [at] cam.ac.uk

Martin Paul

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Charles Combs <rick...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> # echo $MANPATH
>
> Is it set for the man locations? Should have something like /usr/share/man.

doesn't make a difference, as /usr/share/man is the builtin default for the
man command:

% unsetenv MANPATH
% man -l rm
rm (1) -M /usr/share/man
%

Logan Shaw

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May 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/18/00
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In article <8fu7s0$k69$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,

Chris Thompson <cet1-...@cam.ac.uk.invalid> wrote:
>Solaris 8 differs from previous releases in that the packages are
>distributed over twop CDROMs rather than one. SUNWman is on the
>second one. From previous posts I get the impression that sometimes
>things go wrong during installation in such a way that the expected
>packages from the second CDROM never get installed.

You mean like what happened to me earlier this evening -- I installed
Solaris 8 from the CD-ROM, and it never prompted me for the second CD
or even mentioned in any way that the second CD would be necessary.

Then, it churned away for a while and printed the words "Installation
completed" (or "installation finished"? Anyway, You get the idea...)
without having asked for the second CD-ROM.

"That's strange," I thought, "I know there is another CD with stuff to
install, and yet it's telling me it's done." I considered the
possibility that Sun had put the less frequently used packages on the
second CD and perhaps I'd lucked into choosing packages from the
first. This didn't seem likely, but it was the only explanation
consistent with what the software had said. At any rate, I decided to
give it the benefit of the doubt and just continue and see what
happened.

So, I booted into single-user mode and checked out the system. Many
things seemed to be there; the one obvious exception was the manual
pages. I decided to boot into multi-user mode and see if some kind of
script got run from /etc/init.d to take care of this.

Sure enough, it did. It said something about starting webstart,
and then it tried to start the X server. This failed, so it then
informed me it was rebooting.

It rebooted (quite unnecessarily), and I thought perhaps this time it
might work. Well, it didn't. And, somehow the magic that had caused
it to run webstart before was gone, and it just booted up like normal.

So, I decided to run webstart again. Luckily, I was able to guess how
to do this. (I ran "/etc/init.d/webstart start".) I did, and the same
business with the X server crashing happened again. Not good, I
thought. I believe I stopped it from trying to reboot yet again, and
this time ended up looking at /etc/init.d/webstart to see if there was
something I could fix.

Sure enough, I happened upon this segment of code:

if [ -f /var/sadm/webstart/.nodisplay ]
then
CUI=yes
fi

So, I did a "touch /var/sadm/webstart/.nodisplay" and ran it again.

This was helpful -- it avoided the Xsun crash promblem, and I got to
interact with it in a text mode. (Also, going to /var/sadm/webstart
helped me find the core file from Xsun.)

Anyway, webstart ejected the CD-ROM and asked me to insert the CD #2,
then hit return. I did. It complained that it couldn't find the CD.
So, I tried again. Same thing. I then decided I'd hit control-C, make
sure the CD was available under /cdrom, and then start webstart again.
I did. The first thing it did was to eject the CD-ROM, thus making
sure my efforts were in vain. I finally settled upon following a
different set of directions than the ones I was given -- when prompted,
I inserted the CD, waited a long time (like 60 seconds), and *then* hit
return.

At this point, webstart (which, apparently, has nothing to do with the
web at all, BTW) was able to recognize the CD. It then printed
something to the effect that it was starting installation of the
packages, and then very shortly afterward printed "press return to
reboot" or something like that. Knowing it couldn't have installed 200
MB of stuff in 5 seconds, I decided to just wait instead of doing what
it told me, and sure enough, a cute little text progress meter showed
up on the screen, just to the right of the "press return to reboot"
message. So it started installing.

This finished after a while, and I was asked to answer another prompt.
Of course, having been told that pressing return would cause a reboot
and not having pressed return yet, I was a little anxious about this,
but I went ahead and answered at the prompt, and it turned out that the
desire to reboot was apparently just a bluff on the part of webstart.

Anyway...

After all this, the system *did* install correctly. But I was really
*not* pleased with the install process. At any one of several points,
I could have experienced real problems if I hadn't been able to guess
what to do, since what I was theoretically *supposed* to do was not the
thing that was going to get the install completed. Having to create
/var/sadm/webstart/.nodisplay by hand was just ridiculous. It could at
*least* fall back to text mode if it can't start the X server.

It just shouldn't be that hard. And I hear booting from the web
installer disk is worse than booting from the first "Solaris 8
Software" disk. That's a scary thought...

- Logan

Alan Coopersmith

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May 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/18/00
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Logan Shaw <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
>I considered the
>possibility that Sun had put the less frequently used packages on the
>second CD and perhaps I'd lucked into choosing packages from the
>first.

Your horror story notwithstanding, this is actually true - the first CD
is the "end user cluster", the second CD contains the packages from
the "developer cluster".

(Of course, I've never had a problem with Solaris 8 installs, but I've
always done them over the net from an install image with both CD's
combined into a single image so there is no confusion about the second
CD.)

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