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Fredrik Lundholm

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Jul 31, 2003, 6:39:54 PM7/31/03
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Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86
in a week from http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/.
From the Q&A section:

Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?

A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
features on a more timely basis.

Well, why aren't we seing a Mozilla 1.4 release then?? :)
It sux.

/wfr
Fredrik

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Akop Pogosian

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:22:47 PM7/31/03
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Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:

> Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86
> in a week from http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/.
> From the Q&A section:

> Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?

> A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
> features on a more timely basis.

> Well, why aren't we seing a Mozilla 1.4 release then?? :)
> It sux.

This FAQ must be out of date or something. One of the three Mozilla
1.4/sparc packages available from mozilla.org says in the readme file
that that build is provided and supported (through regular sunsolve
channels) by Sun.

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Luke Th. Bullock

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Aug 1, 2003, 1:53:05 AM8/1/03
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>/wfr
>Fredrik

I recommend Mozilla FireBird, there are also precompiled versions
available for Sparc. It is fast, and has alot of great features.
This is the browser above all browsers. imnsho..

About your question, I have no idea..

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Fredrik Lundholm

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Aug 1, 2003, 6:49:45 AM8/1/03
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In article <bgcfd7$1tf6$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,

Akop Pogosian <akopps...@ocf.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
>
>> Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86

>> Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?


>
>> A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
>> features on a more timely basis.

>This FAQ must be out of date or something. One of the three Mozilla

No, actually this is from the Sun Intro published 29:th of July!!!
Lackluster.

What Sun should make sure exists for Solaris:
Latest Mozilla/Netscape.
usable Flash-player.
Latest Acroread.

Casper H.S. Dik

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Aug 1, 2003, 9:41:06 AM8/1/03
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"Luke Th. Bullock" <nospam|lu...@alge.anart.no> writes:


> I recommend Mozilla FireBird, there are also precompiled versions
> available for Sparc. It is fast, and has alot of great features.
> This is the browser above all browsers. imnsho..

One of the things I don't understand is why Firebird
needs to be so different; the user interfaces is inconveniently
different (Preferences are somewhere else, for starters).

(I won't run firebird until it can get rid of animated gifs)

Casper
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lvi...@yahoo.com

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Aug 1, 2003, 10:34:25 AM8/1/03
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According to Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se>:
:Latest Mozilla/Netscape.
:usable Flash-player.

for flash 6...

:Latest Acroread.

and a quicktime viewer.

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Alan Coopersmith

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Aug 1, 2003, 11:44:44 AM8/1/03
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d...@ce.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes in comp.unix.solaris:

|What Sun should make sure exists for Solaris:
|Latest Mozilla/Netscape.

Mozilla 1.4 & 1.5beta for Solaris are available from www.mozilla.org
Netscape is no more.

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Alan Coopersmith

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Aug 1, 2003, 11:48:41 AM8/1/03
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d...@ce.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86
|in a week from http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/.
|From the Q&A section:
|
|Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?
|
|A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
|features on a more timely basis.
|
|Well, why aren't we seing a Mozilla 1.4 release then?? :)

Because it took time to get the Mozilla team staffed up and running and
get everything in place to do Mozilla releases, and that work was done
with Mozilla 1.2.1. Now that everything is in place, they hope to get
future releases out a bit faster, though Sun's QA & pre-release testing
processes will still take some time.

If you place the latest and greatest version at a higher priority than
Sun QA & support, you can always go directly to www.mozilla.org.

Philip Brown

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Aug 1, 2003, 6:08:39 PM8/1/03
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On 01 Aug 2003 13:41:06 GMT, Caspe...@Sun.COM wrote:
>One of the things I don't understand is why Firebird
>needs to be so different; ...

Because the average "free" coder wants everything they work on to be
"new and interesting"

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Akop Pogosian

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Aug 1, 2003, 9:30:35 PM8/1/03
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Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
> In article <bgcfd7$1tf6$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
> Akop Pogosian <akopps...@ocf.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
>>
>>> Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86

>>> Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?
>>
>>> A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
>>> features on a more timely basis.

>>This FAQ must be out of date or something. One of the three Mozilla

> No, actually this is from the Sun Intro published 29:th of July!!!
> Lackluster.

Sorry, my information was wrong. It looks like Sun officially supports
only version 1.2.1 as of right now..

> What Sun should make sure exists for Solaris:
> Latest Mozilla/Netscape.
> usable Flash-player.
> Latest Acroread.

By the way, what's up with Flash-player? Is there going to be a
version 6 for Solaris?

David Magda

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Aug 2, 2003, 9:35:54 AM8/2/03
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Casper H.S. Dik <Caspe...@Sun.COM> writes:
[...]

> (I won't run firebird until it can get rid of animated gifs)

It can right now, just not from the GUI.

Open up a new tab/window, and type in "about:config" (w/o quotes).

Scroll done to "image.animation_mode" (everything is alphabetically
ordered).

To completely stop animations enter the value "none"; for a single
loop of the animation type in "once".

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the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

Michael Laajanen

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Aug 2, 2003, 6:52:08 PM8/2/03
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HI,

Akop Pogosian wrote:
> Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
>
>>In article <bgcfd7$1tf6$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
>>Akop Pogosian <akopps...@ocf.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Fredrik Lundholm <d...@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86
>
>
>>>>Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?
>>>
>>>>A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
>>>>features on a more timely basis.
>
>
>>>This FAQ must be out of date or something. One of the three Mozilla
>
>
>>No, actually this is from the Sun Intro published 29:th of July!!!
>>Lackluster.
>
>
> Sorry, my information was wrong. It looks like Sun officially supports
> only version 1.2.1 as of right now..
>
>
>>What Sun should make sure exists for Solaris:
>>Latest Mozilla/Netscape.
>>usable Flash-player.
>>Latest Acroread.
>
>
> By the way, what's up with Flash-player? Is there going to be a
> version 6 for Solaris?
>

Last time(a couple of months ago) I read on www.Macromedia.com
discussion page a
Macromedia guy say that SUN and Macromedia had becomme nice friends for
some server software they developed and that a new flash player(6) could
... become available maybe in the future.

But I have not seen anything yet so (:

/Michael

Michael Laajanen

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Aug 2, 2003, 6:56:50 PM8/2/03
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HI,

Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> d...@ce.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes in comp.unix.solaris:
> |Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86
> |in a week from http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/.
> |From the Q&A section:
> |
> |Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?
> |
> |A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
> |features on a more timely basis.
> |
> |Well, why aren't we seing a Mozilla 1.4 release then?? :)
>
> Because it took time to get the Mozilla team staffed up and running and
> get everything in place to do Mozilla releases, and that work was done
> with Mozilla 1.2.1. Now that everything is in place, they hope to get
> future releases out a bit faster, though Sun's QA & pre-release testing
> processes will still take some time.
>
> If you place the latest and greatest version at a higher priority than
> Sun QA & support, you can always go directly to www.mozilla.org.
>

Alan, do you know why <CTRL><+> works but not <CTRL><-> on the numeric
keyboard, on the main keyboard it works fine?

/michael

Alan Coopersmith

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Aug 2, 2003, 7:34:15 PM8/2/03
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Michael Laajanen <michael_...@yahoo.com> writes in comp.unix.solaris:

|Alan, do you know why <CTRL><+> works but not <CTRL><-> on the numeric
|keyboard, on the main keyboard it works fine?

No idea.

Bob Palowoda

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Aug 3, 2003, 5:51:56 AM8/3/03
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Alan Coopersmith <al...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote in message news:<bge24p$2shb$3...@agate.berkeley.edu>...

> d...@ce.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes in comp.unix.solaris:
> |Sun is announcing availability of mozilla 1.2.1 for solaris SPARC/x86
> |in a week from http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/browser/.
> |From the Q&A section:
> |
> |Q: Why is Sun moving from the Netscape browser to Mozilla?
> |
> |A2: Faster time to market - provides the ability to deliver the latest
> |features on a more timely basis.
> |
> |Well, why aren't we seing a Mozilla 1.4 release then?? :)
>
> Because it took time to get the Mozilla team staffed up and running and
> get everything in place to do Mozilla releases, and that work was done
> with Mozilla 1.2.1. Now that everything is in place, they hope to get
> future releases out a bit faster, though Sun's QA & pre-release testing
> processes will still take some time.
>
> If you place the latest and greatest version at a higher priority than
> Sun QA & support, you can always go directly to www.mozilla.org.

I don't know. How can you publicly quantify the difference between
Sun's QA & support for Mozilla 1.2.1 and Mozilla's QA and support
for 1.4? I know, I know Sun will fix the bugs in phone support
etc etc. But what does that mean when compared to Mozilla 1.4
tree. The mozilla team works on fixing bugs in the latest
version and backporting the fixes in decending releases,
much like Solaris bugs are handled. I take it Sun's Mozilla
release requires that all bugs be promoted to the newer
release along with any new features to Mozilla's 1.4 tree. Same
goes with the Sun Gnome releases. You know what's fasinating
about this is Sun dosn't have this open model of development
with the OpenOffice/StarOffice or the Java distributions.
In those cases that backport. In the case of the KDE and/or
Companion CD releases Sun manages to get the release cycles
matched to the close 3 month Maintaince Update cycle which
closely matches the opensource world trees. The question
remains how the QA/Support cycle will be normalized to
the current Mozilla (and/or Gnome) release cycles that included
the majic preception of quality and support that all other
releases of Sun's products enjoy including other opensource
projects. If the major release will be a couple of major revisions
behind in the name or quality or features than are these
attributes noticable? If Sun would release Mozilla 1.4 or Gnome
2.2 today would anyone notice the impact?

---Bob

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