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Alan Tutt

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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Hi, I'm very new to this newsgroup. Several years ago I played around
with a computer design and now have the time to actually get around to
playing with the hardware aspect of it.
I had been looking very intently at the Harris RTX2000 and the Silicon
Composers SC32 chips, although neither fit my needs exactly. I can't
seem to find any information about newer chips that are optimized for a
FORTH architechure. I seem to remember that some companies offered
cell-libraries for custom chip designs, yet I am having trouble finding
out which one(s) have the core logics I am looking for.
Is there an online reference listing every processor made? IC Master
has a web-site, but I can't search for anything other that part numbers
there. Is my solution to purchase their book/CD?
I'm hoping that someone works closely with FORTH-based processors and
can direct me to find datasheets and such. Any help will be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.

-Alan Tutt

Roberto Waltman

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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<Al...@ionline.com> wrote:
>..... I had been looking very intently at the Harris RTX2000 and the Silicon

>Composers SC32 chips, although neither fit my needs exactly. I can't
>seem to find any information about newer chips that are optimized for a
>FORTH architechure. I seem to remember that some companies offered
>cell-libraries for custom chip designs, yet I am having trouble finding
>out which one(s) have the core logics I am looking for.....
> -Alan Tutt

The RTX2000 is not produced anymore.
Take a look at the F21 (http://www.dnai.com/~jfox/) and the
PSC100 (http://www.ptsc.com/)
And, of course, post again in comp.lang.forth.

RW.


Paul E. Bennett

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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In article <376E7096...@ionline.com> Al...@ionline.com "Alan Tutt" writes:

> Hi, I'm very new to this newsgroup. Several years ago I played around
> with a computer design and now have the time to actually get around to
> playing with the hardware aspect of it.

> I had been looking very intently at the Harris RTX2000 and the Silicon
> Composers SC32 chips, although neither fit my needs exactly. I can't
> seem to find any information about newer chips that are optimized for a
> FORTH architechure. I seem to remember that some companies offered
> cell-libraries for custom chip designs, yet I am having trouble finding

> out which one(s) have the core logics I am looking for.
> Is there an online reference listing every processor made? IC Master
> has a web-site, but I can't search for anything other that part numbers
> there. Is my solution to purchase their book/CD?
> I'm hoping that someone works closely with FORTH-based processors and
> can direct me to find datasheets and such. Any help will be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks.

Try:-

Patriot Scientific Inc. - PSC1000 ("ShBoom")
Ultra Technology Inc. - F21 and FPGA based processors.

The links are on either www.forth.org or www.forth.com

Asking in comp.lang.forth would also be a good place too.

I am re-organising my own pages at present and will advise when my own have
the links too.

--
Paul E. Bennett ................... <p...@tcontec.demon.co.uk>
Forth based HIDECS Consultancy
Tel: +44 (0)7971-620145
Going Forth Safely


jh

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Jun 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/26/99
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In article <376E7096...@ionline.com>, Al...@ionline.com says...

>
>Hi, I'm very new to this newsgroup. Several years ago I played around
>with a computer design and now have the time to actually get around to
>playing with the hardware aspect of it.
> I had been looking very intently at the Harris RTX2000 and the
Silicon
>Composers SC32 chips, although neither fit my needs exactly. I can't
>seem to find any information about newer chips that are optimized for a
>FORTH architechure. I seem to remember that some companies offered
>cell-libraries for custom chip designs, yet I am having trouble finding
>out which one(s) have the core logics I am looking for.
> Is there an online reference listing every processor made? IC Master
>has a web-site, but I can't search for anything other that part numbers
>there. Is my solution to purchase their book/CD?
> I'm hoping that someone works closely with FORTH-based processors and
>can direct me to find datasheets and such. Any help will be greatly
>appreciated. Thanks.
>
> -Alan Tutt

Some info on a Forth based processor in a CPLD can be found at
testra.com

John H


Keith Wootten

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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In article <376E7096...@ionline.com>, Alan Tutt
<Al...@ionline.com> writes

>Hi, I'm very new to this newsgroup. Several years ago I played around
>with a computer design and now have the time to actually get around to
>playing with the hardware aspect of it.
> I had been looking very intently at the Harris RTX2000 and the Silicon
>Composers SC32 chips, although neither fit my needs exactly. I can't
>seem to find any information about newer chips that are optimized for a
>FORTH architechure. I seem to remember that some companies offered
>cell-libraries for custom chip designs, yet I am having trouble finding
>out which one(s) have the core logics I am looking for.
> Is there an online reference listing every processor made? IC Master
>has a web-site, but I can't search for anything other that part numbers
>there. Is my solution to purchase their book/CD?
> I'm hoping that someone works closely with FORTH-based processors and
>can direct me to find datasheets and such. Any help will be greatly
>appreciated. Thanks.
>
> -Alan Tutt

I've been using the PSC1000 (ShBoom) from Patriot Scientific for a while
now. It's a great Forth engine, and available now, off-the-shelf for
$25 in small quantities, $10 in large quantities. www.ptsc.com for
details.

Cheers
--
Keith Wootten

Elizabeth D Rather

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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Keith Wootten wrote in message ...


The PSC1000 is, indeed, a great part. See our web site www.forth.com for
comparative benchmarks against other processors. AFAIK it's the only
commercially available Forth processor; the RTX family is now only available
as RAD-hard parts, ferociously expensive.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

Regnirps

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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How about any Apple G3? Hold down command, shift, 'o' and 'f' (I think) and you
are in open boot forth. Docs are free at apple.com. Old systems work through
the serial port, but new ones use keyboard and display. Its the best way to
debug a PCI or USB or FireWire driver or a video card, etc.

Charlie Springer

Volker Hetzer

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Jun 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/29/99
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Elizabeth D Rather wrote:

> The PSC1000 is, indeed, a great part. See our web site www.forth.com for
> comparative benchmarks against other processors. AFAIK it's the only
> commercially available Forth processor; the RTX family is now only available
> as RAD-hard parts, ferociously expensive.

Unfortunately www.ptsc.com crashes my browser.

Greetings!
Volker

Elizabeth D Rather

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Jun 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/29/99
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Regnirps wrote in message <19990628175032...@ng-cl1.aol.com>...

Ah, well, that's Forth in ROM; it's also present in all Sun workstations and
some other non-Intel platforms. I understood the question to regard real
Forth-based CPU architectures. Open Firmware (IEEE 1275), the system you're
referring to, can be implemented on any (preferably 32 bits & up) CPU.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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