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Pifob

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
tell us a little about your inventory.


Edsel

SBench

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At least 10 at any one given time. All home built though,
none of 'em has a brand name on them.

Best Regards,
Steve

Check my web page .. http://members.aol.com/sbench101/

grid2

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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In article LAA1...@ladder01.news.aol.com, pi...@aol.com (Pifob) writes:
>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
>tell us a little about your inventory.

This simple inquiry deserves more catagorization:


How many amps:

- main system, active = 3
- placed with relatives = 2
- placed with friends = 2
- working but inventoried = 6
- shop amp = 1
- auxillary system (dining room) = 1

- not working/projects-to-be = 6

- friends amps in for repair = 5

All tube except for 2.

geez... then there is the preamps.

Kurt Strain

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Pifob (pi...@aol.com) wrote:

: Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile own
s
: (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setu
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: as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one


: to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guy
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: tell us a little about your inventory.


I have three:

Atma-Sphere M60 Mk II OTL amps for my main system driving DIY 3-way speakers.
These amps are so modified now that they deserve a new model designation,
like M60 Mk III or M60 Marked the hell all over. All I changed was the
power supply, the input stage topology, the driver stage topology,
the output stage, and the resistors and the brand of input tube. Other
than that, it's the same amp.
(it's been "voiced" to mate well with the DIY 3-ways to satisfy my tastes,
where the 3-ways have been "voiced" as best to mate to the amp - sheesh!)
Can you say 'obsession'?

An old Eico 16W/ch EL-84 based integrated amp for the DIY satellite speakers
in my TWO-channel home theatre set-up, plus a DIY 350W bass amp for the DIY
subwoofer. That counts as one amp system.

A 4W/ch 6AS7 based DIY SET amp that actually drives the TWO-channel home
theatre satellites, using the old Eico integrated as a preamp with tone
controls. Yes, in this silly set-up I find that tone controls actually
help. Some movies are too bright, some are too dull. Some are too boring
as well, but that's a different story.
Funny how I managed to have only 4 watts for the main speakers and a
whopping 350W for the subwoofer. That's about the right balance for
the way movie soundtracks are made.

I used to own an NAD 55W/ch power amp in bridged mode to drive a pure
sinewave into a step-up transformer from a 60 Hz signal generator to the
turntable motor until it crapped out from that kind of abuse. Weird, huh?
No tears shed there.


My brother owns 3 amps also, two of which are just sitting in a closet one
day to be used for the right application if necessary. One is a nice
Music Reference RM-9. Why keep good money sitting in a closet I say?
Sell it! That way you can buy another amp!

BTW, is this idea coming from some Lisa Astor article?


Kurt

Ron Bales

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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About time I started counting.

2 tube monoblocks in main system -
1 tube stereo in shop
1 tube on bench being built
1 tube receiver idle
2 tube stereo integrateds occasional
2 zister integrateds idle
2 tube Hammonds for parts

I'm looking for more.

ROn

Pifob wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns

> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup

> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys

> tell us a little about your inventory.
>

> Edsel

william mollard

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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I would be most grateful if you could provide the results... especially
if the average is greater than five as it would be easier to initiale another
DIT project with permission rather than hope for forgiveness. Actually Darlene
is quite supportive as long as I don't use too much tube nomenclature... it
just prolongs the discourse.

5 amps in this household...

2 DIY
2 Heath W5M
1 Citation II

... and one solid state Hafler 220 (highly modded of course!) but SS doesn't
really count does it!


Sheldon D. Stokes

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> Pifob (pi...@aol.com) wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
>owns (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
>setup as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as
main and
>one to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
>guys tell us a little about your inventory.
>

I've got a bunch:

Solid State:

NAD power envelope 7250 (i think)
Pass Zen (just sold but I'll count it anyway)

Toobs:

HK Citation II
Dyna ST-70
Heath AA-61's (2)
Fisher SA-16
Fisher X-100-B
Scott LK-72

Roaland Borg EL34 amps (rack mount, I just gave them to a friend)

Whirlitzer 7027 amps from something (HUGE trannies, very heavy)
My Homebrew EL84 amps (2)
Homebrew EL84 class amps (given to me receintly, with external supplies)


I've got parts and plans to build a Pass Citation 12, and I've got enough
transformers and output iron for at least 4 more channels of tube amps.

I'd say that's about average.

Sheldon

--
"...from Genghis Kahn to the Fuller brush man, they're just a bunch
of loosers like me" -Dave VanRonk

Remove SPAM_BE_GONE from my address to reply to me.

Ron Selberg

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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Well, fun thread.

I have:

4 Heath W5M
1 Citation II
4 Bigg of Calif EL34 Mono
2 Altec PA booster amps
1 Pioneer SX110 receiver

A few of these are "apart" :-)

Ron

Frank Harrison

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> tell us a little about your inventory.

tubeamps:

1 Citation II
1 Scott 299C
1 Scott LK-72
2 MacIntosh MC-40s
2 Harmon Kardon A-500s
1 Leak Stereo 50

sand:

1 Ampzilla
1 Marantz 2270
1 Pioneer receiver of some sort
1 Technics SU-V9 integrated
1 Coulter version of SWTPC's tiger .01

macfa...@hotmail.com

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In article <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
owns
> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
setup
> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel
>

Okay here it goes:

Tube:

2 MC275 (1 in good condition, 1 broken parts unit)

1 MC30

2 Dynaco MarkIV (pair)

1 Heathkit SP-2A Preamp


Solid state:

McIntosh:
C27 and C24 preamps
MA5100 integrated
(all of these are gathering dust)

MC2205 power amp (my subwoofer amp)

MCD7007 CD Player


Regards,

Nestor


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Andrew Farkas

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:58:12 -0400, Ron Bales <rba...@gte.net> wrote:

Tubes

4 Power Amps

Dyna St70 - EL34 for now
Knight KB-85 (I thnk) 60 watt basic - 6L6
Sargent-Rayment SR-534 - EL84
Fisher 440-A (out of console.) Modified. - EL84

1 Integrated

Dyna SCA-35

6 Preamps

2 Eico HF-85 ( one is missing the PT)
1 Scott 130
1 Fisher 400-CX-2
2 Fisher 400-CX (one is a mess,.. gonna use the chassis for my own
design)

1 Tuner

Scott LT-110

1 Misc

Western Electric 100F Powered Loudspeaker

Solid State

Bryston 3B power amp
Bryston .5 preamp

That was fun!

Andy

stan sylvester

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In article <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com> pi...@aol.com (Pifob) writes:
>From: pi...@aol.com (Pifob)
>Subject: How many amps do you own?
>Date: 17 Jun 1998 15:33:14 GMT

>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
>tell us a little about your inventory.


>Edsel

I have the following.....

toobs
Scott 222C
Fisher 800C (2)
Scott 340B
EL84 single end amp out of an old console
Knight KA 35 (55) chasis for parts.
Tektronix 502 Scope (no sound but pretty pictures ;-})

SS
Adcom 535
Kenwood KA 5500?

Always looking for more!

Gary


AMitch9448

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I run three systems in 2 residences: home "summer" system
peterson/klaus amp, mac 31v pre,dyna fm5 tuner, onkyocd.
vacation house livingroom marantz 8b.7c,10b,bozak401's
listening room jc morrison 300 b monobloc's ,tannoy 12'' golds, belvedre cabs,
cj pv10a, throens 125,
other amps: pilot aa902a,fisher101c,morrison 6b4gpp monos, fisher kx100.

Dave Cigna

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Ron Bales <rba...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>I'm looking for more.

I think that says it all. The answer to give your wife is "not enough".

-- Dave

John Diamantis

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Pifob wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel

amps in systems:

McINTOSH:

MC-40 (2) LIVING ROOM
MC-30 (2) BASEMENT (SHOP)
MC-240 BEDROOM
MC-60 (2) BASEMENT (REC ROOM)

SCOTT LK-72 FAMILY ROOM
SCOTT LK-48 OFFICE AT WORK

on the shelf:

DYNA ST-70
ST-35
SCA-35
MK-II (2)
MK-III (2)

SCOTT 299
340

GROMMES "MUSIC LOVERS" 10 W MONO
IP-15 15 W MONO


Always looking for interesting stuff. Also must mention, I have a
beautiful, and extremely tolerant wife, who, over the years, has learned
to truly appreciate the sound of tube amps over transistors (too "sharp
and screechy sounding"), despite their tendency to "take over room
decor". Now if I could only find an affordable house with more rooms....

jD

TubeGarden

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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Common audiophile? Yeah, right. Normal, average tube maniacs...

Pile in NE corner of listening room/shop/bedroom:

Fisher X-202-B and X-202-C
Sansui 250 and 500A
Zenith K-725 and 2 others
RCA "Golden Throat" and 1 other

Homebrew integrateds:

6BM8
EF86/SV-83
EF86/XL86 - Now Playing (sweet)
5670/5687/6336(6AS7 and 6080 subs)

misc around the house:
Sonys on TV and this PC
Sony under pile in bedroom

Pending (tubes and xformers and parts):
very many

Storeroom:
no comment

Al B^}


Al Marcy
TubeG...@aol.com

Ross Lipman

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> pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:
> >
> > Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
> owns
> > (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
> setup
> > as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> > to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
> guys
> > tell us a little about your inventory.
> >
> > Edsel
> >
>

6/17

Too many...

Heath
pr W-5m rebuilt
pr W-4m stock/ new caps RCA and binding posts
pr W-4m not working
pr A-9c rebuilt as monoblocks
AA-111 stock and one in pieces
SA-2 integrated

Fisher
pr 30a
x-101 integrated
TA-460 (rebuilt/ console pull)
500c (in midst of a rebuild)
x-202 integrated (in need of a P/T)

Dynaco
4 ST-70 all rebuilt to vary degrees of performance

Sansui
2 x 500a receivers

Bogen
RP-60 receiver

+ a few Dyna PAS preamps and a few Dyna FM-3 tuners and a few Fisher
tuners and a few Heath WA-P2 preamps and a few Heath tuners.....

And some SS stuff-
Sony HT receiver, Adcom 535 amp and Hafler DH-101 preamp

All housed in a little tiny place.

Ross Lipman

rl1...@ix.netcom.com

Conrad Field

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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Pifob wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel
I have setup and running:
Scott 299b,LT10 FM tuner,AR4x,AR turntable on right side garage
Fisher KX-100,Xp7's,R200 tuner on left side garage
Heath AA50 and AA151 on the work bench with small Kenwood speakers
Fisher 400 in the first bedroom with AR2ax's,Garrard lab 90,Teac A4300
Knight ku45a reciever, AR4x,in Wife's sewing room
Bogens RP60,fisher500B,hook up thru speaker switch block to one
of the following AR11,Bozaks 3 way,AR4x,Ratshack Electrostat II, and
Allied 2300K.
Dyanco 70,pas3,Fm3,AR3a's in living room
Scott 340"Big Transformer" and AR3a's in the family room..
From time to time the above is swapped out with:
Fisher 500c, Fisher 202B, Fisher 100,Scott 350D,Scott LK48,Kenwood 220,
Kenwood 1000, Pioneer SX1000, Sansui 500, Heath AA100, Lafayette 226c..

Thats It for the tube stuff and yes my wife is mad....
I am only allow to turn on system on at a time...

--
Conrad Field
mailto:cfi...@jps.net
http://www.jps.net/cfield

william bittle

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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John Diamantis wrote:
>
> Pifob wrote:
> >
> > Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
> > (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
> > as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> > to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
> > tell us a little about your inventory.
Ok,
A pair of Operadio 50 watt mono power amps,
Scott:
299,
299C (two of them)
99D
340B
330B
333
333B
Eico
HF-12
HFT-90
Dyna
Pas-2
FM3 (two of them)
ST-70
Fisher
500C
Grommes
20PG
61PG
Bogen
DB130 (two of them)
Sherwood
S1000
S2000
Philco
531
90
111
Fender
Vibro Champ
Bandmaster
I have reciently purchased (and am waiting for)
another Scott 99, A bell (1953) Biaural amp, an RCA mono integrated,
another ST-70, a PAS2, a dyna SCA-35 and a Harmon Kardon Chorale.
Now that's enough to heat any house!

Bill B.

Kurt Hirsch

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Pifob wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel

I'm actually embarrassed to admit the number I own but it's somewhere
around 65 which include SOME of the following:
Mac 30,60,240,275
Marantz 8b
All Dynaco including MarkVI
Quad II
FI 2A3
Fisher, Scott, Eico, Western Electric, Fairchild, etc.
My friends keep asking me if I've made out a will.
Kurt

Fred Whitlock

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Jun 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/17/98
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Only 5. I have a 45 wpc push pull pentode amp as the main driving force in
my audio system and a 7 wpc single ended triode to use whenever the mood
strikes me. I have a 100 wpc solid state amp for the mains in the home
theater and a three channel one for the center and surrounds. The fifth one
is a 200 wpc unit driving the speakers for my digital piano. I can always
use headphones on the digital piano if something breaks elsewhere. Do you
think I need a few more?

--
Fred
Maplewood Photography
http://www.maplewoodphoto.com
Pifob wrote in message <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

JLSEM

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Jun 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/18/98
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Sheldon D. Stokes wrote:
>Toobs:
>
>HK Citation II
>Dyna ST-70
>Heath AA-61's (2)
>Fisher SA-16
>Fisher X-100-B
>Scott LK-72
>
>Roaland Borg EL34 amps (rack mount, I just gave them to a friend)
>
>Whirlitzer 7027 amps from something (HUGE trannies, very heavy)
>My Homebrew EL84 amps (2)
>Homebrew EL84 class amps.....

What? No Quad II's?

Gilbert Bates

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pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:

>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
>tell us a little about your inventory.
>
>
>Edsel


Tube-

ST-70 / PAS 3
EICO HF-12
EICO HF-81
ARC KNIGHT 6BM8 kit stereo
'79 100W Marshall (2203) master volume 1/2 stack
100W Marshall Slash Signature amp, full stack
100W Peavey Artist 6L6
Early 60's Gibson Skylark
2 DIY 6L6 guitar amps

S.S.

Early 70's Sansui integrated
Yamaha 65 watt integrated
30W Marshall combo

Gilbert

Milton Martins

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Jun 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/18/98
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> >Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common
audiophile
> owns
> >(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to
substitute,
> setup
> >as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main
and
> one
> >to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course).
C'mon
> guys
> >tell us a little about your inventory.
> >
> >
> >Edsel


OK here goes:

Pair of 300B monoblocs (My Main System)
DIY Push Pull w/ EL34 (Backup System)
Scott 222C (Need some work to make it sound better)
Lafayette 89C (Getting dust)
ST 70 (Need some work...)
Heath AA-100
Technics (Sand) in TV Setup
Knit with two 6BM8

Next project:

SE using a 572-10 Svetlana or PP using KT 88


Milton Martins


Milton Martins

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Jun 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/18/98
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Ah! Forget these:

Bell Integrated with 4x7199 (Green & golden face)
Harmon Kardon Mark III Integrated

I think that's all....

Milton Martins

Alain Vaillancourt

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Jun 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/18/98
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hi ! I have 6 tube amp 1 class A solid state regards...
Pifob a écrit dans le message
<199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

Alain Vaillancourt

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sorry make it 7 ! I was forgetting my bogen db212 regards...
Alain Vaillancourt a écrit dans le message ...

Ronaldw441

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>how many amps a common audiophile owns

Lets see.... Right now I have;

1 - Hafler DH-120
1 - Hafler DH-200
1 - Hafler DH-220
1 - Hafler 9130
3 - Dynaco ST-70
2 - Dynaco Mark III
1 - Adcom 535
1 - Adcom 545 II
2 - Apt 1
1 - Luxman M117 (I think that's the model ?)
2 - SWTP stereo amps (can't remember the model number)
2 - SWTP mono amps (same as above)
1 - Conrad Johnson MV-50
1 - Conrad Johnson MV-55

Obviously, too many....

Ron

dang...@earthlink.net

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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:17:40 GMT, "Alain Vaillancourt"
<val...@microtec.net> wrote:

>hi ! I have 6 tube amp 1 class A solid state regards...

>Pifob a йcrit dans le message
><199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
>owns


>>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
>setup
>>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and
>one
>>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
>guys
>>tell us a little about your inventory.
>>
>>
>>Edsel
>

(1) Mac amp, straight (stereo)
(1) Mac amp, modified (stereo)
(1) Yamaha cheapie amp (stereo)
(2) Dyna Mark III Modified (monoblock)
(2) tube amp under construction (monoblock)
(1) SS pre (stereo)
(1) tube pre (stereo)
(1) tube pre under construction (stereo)
(2) altec mixers converted to tubes used as preamps (dual mono) --
under construction
(1) one OpAmp type preamp (stereo)


Regards,
Dangerdave

Gruvmyster

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Somebody wrote:

>pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:
>
>>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
>>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
>>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
>>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
>>tell us a little about your inventory.

Tubes:

Dyna ST-70 (modded)
Pilot 354M receiver
Scott LK-48
Sansui 1000A receiver (a surprisingly nice and well built unit!)
1962 Fender Concert
1962 Fender Vibrolux
1970ish Fender Deluxe Reverb
Kalamazoo Reverb 12
Gibson BR-9
Magnatone Varsity
Mac MX110
Loads of old tube PA heads by Webster, DuKane, etc.

I've gotten rid of probably at least 3x this much in the past couple
years, as it was getting hard to walk in the basement. At one point, I
had 18 guitar amps alone!

Now that I can move in the house again, I find I have a wife and two
kids as well. It's been interesting getting to know them...:-)

Doug
--
"Theory should be study, not doctrine."-- Carl von Clausewitz


Donmal105

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Jun 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/18/98
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At last count, It was six amp's ,two receivers, two tuners, 2C-D players, two
turntables, six sets of speakers! And looking for another big Tube amp. My wife
wants to strangle me already! Not because of the equipment, but the room it's
taking up : )
Donm...@AOL.COM

Iain Churches

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Pifob wrote in message <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
owns
>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
setup
>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and
one
>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
guys
>tell us a little about your inventory.
>
>

>Edsel


Sonic Frontiers
Quad II
Radford STA 100


Wot? Only three. Compared with the other postings my inventory seems very
lean. : -)


Iain

Russ Sadd

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This sounds rather pathetic compared to the rest!

AMPS
Quad IIs
'GEC' KT66-30W
6W 'Williamson' home-brew
& own 18W 6L6s to follow

PRE-AMPS
Quad 22
Own SRPP
Tusk SRPP
Passive volume control

Russ
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Graham Shore

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Hmmm.... Everyone seems to have or had a Heath amp!
Here's my small list:-
Glass:
Gamma Rhythm SE 211
Heathkit MA12 EL84 PP
Rogers mono SE EL84 from console.
SRPP preamp (SDS design/Avondale PSU)
SDS PP EL84's in pipeline.

Sand:
Avondale M1's
NAD 3020
Sansui receiver
Sony TAE1630 - mid seventies, much modified

Pifob wrote:

> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns
> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute, setup
> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel

--
Best Regards,
Graham Shore.

Mike H.

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Pifob wrote:

> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel

Here's my list of currently functional toys:

Tubes:
Acrosound 20-20 (my fave)
Acro Hi-Power Williamson (60's homebrew with TO-330's, schematic on Ned's page)


HK Citation II
Dyna ST-70

Dyna SCA-35
Dyna Pas 3
Grommes Little Jewel
Aurora Preamp (mod to Pas in early issue of Audio Amateur)
Homebrew EL34 SE (in progress)

SS:
NAD 7120 Receiver

And, like everyone else, always looking for more.
Mike H.

prl...@my-dejanews.com

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I am using a:
DYNACO STEREO 400-ACCUSTATS (mid)
ALTEC 126A's-DR HIELS air motion transformers (hi)
McINTOSH-(sub)
WECO 124's in waiting
Soundcraftsman C400
5 various PA type ALTEC,no longer used
PAS-3 (Thanks Mitch)
starting to get looks of horror when I show up with something new.


Phil

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Jamie

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Great responses, folks..... Now if you could just leave a breif post giving
your address and when you'll next be out of town......


Jamie.

John Diamantis

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Hey Jamie, that's pretty funny! HAHAHA

Now, do you want to talk about my firearms and nitwit human skulls
collection?

jD

Wilfred

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WOW, what a great tread!
(Now we can get to know the amps behind the posters)

Anyway, here goes;
In use:
*Homebrew preamp (2 x 6SN7 or ECC82 linestage, 2 ECC803S + 2 x ECC83 phono)
*Homebrew PP-UL EL84 (backup amp. I think of using it for my computer)
*Homebrew PP-UL KT88/6550 amp (main power amp)
*Multitone M100 PA amp (4 x EL34, monitor amp for my band)

In use with somebody else:
*Trion; very small Japanese integrated(!) stereo, using 1 x ECC83; 2 x EL84;
1 x EZ81

On display/dustcollectors/doorstops/projects:
*1 Philips 2848-04 mono (PP EL34)
*1 Philips mono (real old. I don't know the type number, but it came with
the original type I EL34's. The metal ring EL34's are in much better
condition than the amp...)
*Homebrew 'asymmetrical' poweramp, using two different output trannys (3k4 &
5k5), originally meant to be used as a stereo guitar amp with two different
power sections.
*MBP (my big plan) I already got the two power transformers. They are huge.
I'm going for 3 x GZ34 and 4 x KT88/etc per channel.... (future PA set for
my band and for at home when the entire neighbourhood is out of town)


Can I list my guitar amps too?
Can I can I can I can I
pplleeaassee??
(or I will have no 'collectable' brand names)

*Vox AC30 Top Boost '68 (restored to original specs)
*Marshall Plexy Super Bass full stack '68 (hardly modified)
*Solasound (ever heard of that brand? modified, personal amp)
*London City (modified, band's backup)
*Castle 100W (rebuild to 3 channel, in use by a friend)
*Homebrew 4 channel stereo (2 x 6V6GT/EL84 per channel, for recording)
*My first amp (3 channels, grew from PP EL84 to PP 5881, in use by one of my
band-members)
*Homebrew 4 x EL34/6L6GC/6550/KT88, 3 channel amp
*working on a 'high end' guitar amp (2 x GZ34/5U4G; 4 x
EL34/6L6GC/6550/KT88; single channel; using 'audio grade' components and
custom iron)
*next one waiting; 2 channel 4 x EL34/6550 (only iron installed yet)

Just sold a Fender Bassman copy I made out of the iron of an old Dynacord
Rex

That's about it I guess.
I still have some more iron left, but I'm using them to keep my CD's and
LP's in place.

Hmm,
This list turned out to be a little longer than I anticipated.
Oh well.

Cheers,

Wilfred

Pifob heeft geschreven in bericht
<199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...


>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
owns
>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
setup
>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and
one
>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
guys

Paul Gustafson

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Here's my list (I know some are not HI-FI but what can ya do?)
Toobs:
1 Lafayette Stereo224 Integrated (PP-6Gw8) in office at work.
1 Stromberg Carlson AU-27
1 Masco ME-27
1 Bogen 30W P.A. head (PP-7868 output, Octal plug in transformer coupled
mic inputs !!) This thing Is a GOOD example of Bogen equipment it's
wicked !
1 Webster PP-6V6 Portable PA. (W/original 10" Jensen spec. design!!)
1 Homebrew Marshall/Fender PP-6V6 Clone (made from a Hammond organ
and a cherry bureau,w/12" electromagnetic loudspeaker)
1 Homebrew SE EL84 3Watt practice amp (complete w/tremolo & 6"
pioneer spkr.)
1 Alamo Practice amp (SE 50C5 output, Series String filaments, Utah
spkr.)
1 Philco am/fm/sw floor model from 1940's (SE #45 output
10"electromagnet spkr.)
1 Magnavox high fidelity A.M. table radio (PP 6V6 output!! 2-6"spkrs!!)
1 Delco Art Deco all american five A.M. radio (It's full o' tubes !)
1 RCA all american five (miniatures) (in a plexiglass box for curiosity
factor!!)
(Couple more in my head headed for the design stage)

Solid State (HERESY.. I Know !)
1 Peavey 400W powered mixer
1 Bogen 30W P.A. head (old, uses same chassis as the toob version !!)
Will run on 12Volts !?
1 Bogen 60W P.A. head
1 Sansui receiver (old, When they were pretty good, discrete outputs)
1 Sansui integrated (I.C. op amp outputs, It SUCKS!!)
1 OLD Marantz receiver (Germanium TO3's) Nice !
1 Nakamichi receiver
1 Homebrew 12v gell cell powered practice amp (7 watts 5" spkr. built in
batt charger/power supply. sounds great! will run for 12hrs on a charge)

Misc
1 B.I.C. 960 turntable
1 JVC turntable
1 Sansui turntable
1 Teac Cassette
1 Sansui Casette
1 Sansui Tuner
1 Sony Tuner (old tall skinny box w/round dial, remember these?)
1 Aiwa C.D.
1 P.A. cab w/15"spkr and horn hf driver.
3 prs. stereo speakers, Sansui(they suck) Benjamin Acoustics(old but
pretty good) Homebrew(not too bad)

That's about it... My wife is okay with all this stuff...Thank god I'd
have to get rid of her ! hahaha!

>
> I would be most grateful if you could provide the results... especially
> if the average is greater than five as it would be easier to initiale another
> DIT project with permission rather than hope for forgiveness. Actually Darlene
> is quite supportive as long as I don't use too much tube nomenclature... it
> just prolongs the discourse.
>

The SpikeMeister

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2 x Citation IIs
2 x Dynaco MkIII's with Curcio regulation
1 x Dynaco ST70 series II
Older Scott unit

Audio Research SP-3-1A
Citation I
PAS-2
PAS-3 Series II

Yamaha Tuner
Dyanco FM-1?

9 speakers : )


Thinking of stopping by?

One friggen mean outside dog,
One silent but deadly inside dog,
Home brew/silent alarm w/video

One deadly Marine, on call 24 hours a day
seven days a week.

Rifle, Pistol, and Machine Gun Expert


Thinking
Go ahead and make my day


Steve Jones

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2 SJS SE108 MkII Monoblocks w/WE437 ITC WE300Bs
1 Moffat Citation II w/WE350B outputs
1 HK Citation II
1 Scott 222C
Clarion in dash CD player (in my SHO)
Emerson clock radio

-Steve Jones

Steve Jones

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Plus a monotube WE437 parallel feed amp with active load, in the not too
distant future.

-Steve Jones

Pifob

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Okay with about 37 postings and a lot of email the average amp for about 43
audiophiles is 14. Boy, is this wild! Anyways, the numbers will still change as
more postings come in . This thread turn out to be such a hit I think it should
be included in that proposed FAQ for RAT. What do you guys think?

Bob Higgins

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My collection:

Power amps: EICO HF86, HF87, SAE 2200 (ss - left over from my deaf
years)
Integrateds: EICO HF81, HF-12, Scott 299B
Preamps: EICO HF85 (2), Scott 130, SAE 2900 (same comment as 2200 above)
Tuners: EICO HFT90, HF94a, Dynaco FM3
Headphone amp: Musical Fidelity X-cans
CD player: Musical Fidelity E60 (as transport)
DAC: Audio Alchemy DDE 1.1
Turntable: Music Hall MM2
Cartridge: Shure V15 type 5 MR
Loudspeakers: DIY DynAudio Twynns

Best sounding amp of these: HF85/86 combo

Tim H

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>In article <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,


> pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:
>>
>> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common
audiophile
>owns
>> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
>setup
>> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and
one
>> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course).
C'mon
>guys
>> tell us a little about your inventory.


Homebuilt 30W/ch PP/UL EL34x2 per channel
Velleman K4040 PP/UL EL34x4 per channel
Leslie 147 Organ Speaker PP 6550x2
Leslie 910 Organ Speaker - solid state
Leslie 720 Organ Speaker - solid state
Hammond A-100 Organ (two tube amps - Main and Reverb ~30W each)
Rodgers 34-E Theatre Organ with 4 speaker cabinets ~150W per cabinet - solid
state
Carver M1.5t - solid state
Carver M200t - solid state
Heathkit Stereo Amp - solid state

There's an odd mix for ya. And I didn't even count the Infinity Gold sound
system in the Jeep!

Tim

tom schlangen

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hi Edsel,

i am using a Y-shaped amp setup here, using one Raphael
preamp feeding either a modified Velleman K4000 PP/UL amp
or a custom 6AS7 SET amp.

so i have three three amps (one pre, two power), but only
running two of them at the same time, one of them being
the same preamp in both chains.

i am using the both power amps fixed connected to a pair
of completely different speakers each, and i guess that
the ratio is approx 50/50.

i don't regard one of both power amps and its pair of
connected speakers as a 'first' setup and the other
amp/speaker combo as some sort of backup, but i am simply
using each chain with the sort/type/genre of music i
feal/hear it matches best with.

this 'Y' amp setup was not made by intention or even rational
decision, but it simply "happened" by toying around with
quite some more components while listening to and enjoying
the music in the first place, so to say.

tom

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KINK...@hotmail.com

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In article <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:
>
> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
owns
> (no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
setup
> as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and one
> to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon
guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>
> Edsel
> Just can't resist

3 Mac A116's
2 Marantz 8B's
2 Grommes 260a's
1 Grommes 260
2 Eico HF-60's
1 Eico HF-22
2 Fairchild 260's
2 Fisher 80AZ's
1 Lafeyette KT-600
2 Lafeyette LA-70's
and of course integrateds, receivers, preamps and tuners
I'm thinking about a 10 step program

Bob

mor...@my-dejanews.com

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> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile owns-{snip}

Not much hi-fi tube {{{yet??}}}

Sherwood s5500 integrated
Olsen tuner
Sanyo reel to reel w/integrated amp late sixties
Sony

Many 30's and 40's Console three banders [maybe nine this drives the wife nuts
moving 150lb cabinets around to decorate]

sand;
Dynaco pat4 and st120
pioneer xxxx
sony model 101 portable reel early sixties transitor

70's bic wharfedales
cerwin vegas
ar 3's

TubeGarden

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Guitar amps, too?

Just the one:

Fender Super Twin Reverb (blackface, bought new in '78)

seems adequate.

Al B^}
Al Marcy
TubeG...@aol.com

Milton Martins

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Edsel:

You never told us how many YOU have :-)


Milton Martins

Pifob <pi...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...


> Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common

audiophile owns

Robert Casey

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I have two Dyna SCA35's. Also an AKAI SS receiver, and an old Decca SS
receiver. And a whole bunch of old tube and SS radios.

Gruvmyster

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Steve wrote:

>2 SJS SE108 MkII Monoblocks w/WE437 ITC WE300Bs
>1 Moffat Citation II w/WE350B outputs
>1 HK Citation II
>1 Scott 222C
>Clarion in dash CD player (in my SHO)
>Emerson clock radio
>

>-Steve Jones

SE 300Bs? They must sound like garbage. Nothing but pure distortion.
If you dig low output and high distortion, that's fine by me, but
don't come crying to me about not being able to drive NHT speakers!

Have you compared your Emerson clock radio to the SETs, preferably in
a double-blind, level-matched test? My clock radio has lower
distortion than your amps.

You don't call them "HiFi", do you?

Ned Carlson

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:00:22 -0700, Ron Selberg
<"<spamguard>ronald.selberg"@tek.com> wrote:

>Well, fun thread.
>
>I have:
>
>4 Heath W5M
>1 Citation II
>4 Bigg of Calif EL34 Mono

Just out of curiosity, how do the Biggs
sound compared to the others?
We hardly ever see Biggs here, I've heard good things
about them.


Ned Carlson Triode Electronics,2225 W Roscoe Chicago, IL, 60618 USA
ph 773-871-7459 fax 773-871-7938
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http://www.triodeel.com
Text file catalogs:Catalog 'Bot at cat...@triodeel.com

Ned Carlson

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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:58:44 -0400, Paul Gustafson
<gus...@res.raytheon.com> wrote:

>Here's my list (I know some are not HI-FI but what can ya do?)
>Toobs:
>1 Lafayette Stereo224 Integrated (PP-6Gw8) in office at work.
>1 Stromberg Carlson AU-27
>1 Masco ME-27
>1 Bogen 30W P.A. head (PP-7868 output, Octal plug in transformer coupled
>mic inputs !!) This thing Is a GOOD example of Bogen equipment it's
>wicked !
>1 Webster PP-6V6 Portable PA. (W/original 10" Jensen spec. design!!)
>1 Homebrew Marshall/Fender PP-6V6 Clone (made from a Hammond organ
>and a cherry bureau,w/12" electromagnetic loudspeaker)
>1 Homebrew SE EL84 3Watt practice amp (complete w/tremolo & 6"
>pioneer spkr.)
>1 Alamo Practice amp (SE 50C5 output, Series String filaments, Utah
>spkr.)

You know any harmonica players? Some of this stuff sounds like
it would just slay as harmonica amps!
This sounds sarcastic, but it ain't, harmonica is a good example
of what tube amps can do that solid state has a hard time
duplicating..Masco & Alamo are two big faves of harmonica players..

Ned Carlson

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:58:12 -0400, Ron Bales <rba...@gte.net> wrote:

>About time I started counting.
>
>2 tube monoblocks in main system -
>1 tube stereo in shop
>1 tube on bench being built
>1 tube receiver idle
>2 tube stereo integrateds occasional

What kind are they?

>2 zister integrateds idle

Sound better that way.

Ned Carlson

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On 17 Jun 1998 23:52:06 GMT, tubeg...@aol.com (TubeGarden) wrote:

>Common audiophile? Yeah, right. Normal, average tube maniacs...
>
>Pile in NE corner of listening room/shop/bedroom:
>RCA "Golden Throat" and 1 other

They don't call them "Golden Throat" for no
reason..(fill in your joke here)

Ned Carlson

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On 18 Jun 1998 03:00:45 GMT, "Milton Martins" <mil...@naplesnet.com>
wrote:

>Knit with two 6BM8

A "knit"? Is that one of the Knights that say
neet?

Ned Carlson

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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:03:04 +0300, "Iain Churches"
<iain.c...@provideo.fi> wrote:

>Sonic Frontiers
>Quad II
>Radford STA 100

Of those, what do you like best?

Do Dynas & Macs ever turn up in
Finland?

Ned Carlson

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On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:39:43 -0400, John Diamantis <wb...@erols.com>
wrote:

>Jamie wrote:
>>
>> Great responses, folks..... Now if you could just leave a breif post giving
>> your address and when you'll next be out of town......
>>
>> Jamie.

Only someone from Chicago would have the balls to post that..

>
>Hey Jamie, that's pretty funny! HAHAHA
>
>Now, do you want to talk about my firearms

If I had to have a firearm: Colt .45 special.
Big, fat , slow slug, maximum energy transferred
to target.

Second choice: .44 cal Remington
blackpowder revolver. Same advantages as
above. But easier to license.


>and nitwit human skulls
>collection?

You have Harvey Rosenberg's skull there?
His brain should be willed to science,
that's fer sure, so humanity can learn how
to prevent such accidents in the future.

Ned Carlson

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:37:40 GMT, KINK...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:

>3 Mac A116's
>2 Marantz 8B's
>2 Grommes 260a's
>1 Grommes 260
>2 Eico HF-60's
>1 Eico HF-22
>2 Fairchild 260's
>2 Fisher 80AZ's
>1 Lafeyette KT-600
>2 Lafeyette LA-70's

Of the above, what do you like best?

> and of course integrateds, receivers, preamps and tuners
> I'm thinking about a 10 step program

You're two steps short...

Steve Longo

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Ned Carlson wrote:
>
> On 18 Jun 1998 03:00:45 GMT, "Milton Martins" <mil...@naplesnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Knit with two 6BM8
>
> A "knit"? Is that one of the Knights that say
> neet?

For that remark, you must now cut down the largest tree in the forest
with ...... a herring!

Ethan

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Gee- so many braggarts... Guess I might as well chime in too.

Current and recently current amps:

ARC ST70-C3 - recent arrival and amp du jour;
ST70 - shelved upon arrival of above;
heathkit EL34 monoblocks - shelved about 2 months ago.

And works in progress:
RCA monoblocks - 4x1622 (6L6) theater amps ca. 1940, awaiting
restoration;
Eico HF35 - single, awaiting a mate;
7241 driven OTL - thanks to a 6528 design from Alan Kimmel.

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Ned Carlson wrote:

> Second choice: .44 cal Remington blackpowder revolver. Same advantages as
> above. But easier to license.

And don't forget the neat & quick cylinder changeover on the 1858 Remington pattern!

Leif
c/o
robot...@110.net


dang...@earthlink.net

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will you let him use a spiny herring?

Sheldon D. Stokes

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> You have Harvey Rosenberg's skull there?
> His brain should be willed to science,
> that's fer sure, so humanity can learn how
> to prevent such accidents in the future.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks he's an idiot.

Sheldon

--
"...from Genghis Kahn to the Fuller brush man, they're just a bunch
of loosers like me" -Dave VanRonk

Remove SPAM_BE_GONE from my address to reply to me.

Sheldon D. Stokes

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In article <6mbinu$ao$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, prl...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

I'm amazed at how many Citation II's there are on that list. Is this due
to the excersize craze in the 80's? Lift and listen, lift and listen.....

Bob C

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Steve Longo wrote in message <6mdh9q$j...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...


>Ned Carlson wrote:
>>
>> On 18 Jun 1998 03:00:45 GMT, "Milton Martins" <mil...@naplesnet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Knit with two 6BM8
>>
>> A "knit"? Is that one of the Knights that say
>> neet?
>
>For that remark, you must now cut down the largest tree in the forest
>with ...... a herring!


The Penguin on-top of your Real McCoy amp will now explode.

Bob

Ron Bales

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Ned Carlson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:58:12 -0400, Ron Bales <rba...@gte.net> wrote:
>
> >About time I started counting.
> >

> What kind are they?

> >2 tube monoblocks in main system -
Homebrew 2A3

> >1 tube stereo in shop

homebrew 12AU7 - 12B4

> >1 tube on bench being built

Stereo PP 6A3

> >1 tube receiver idle
Pilot

> >2 tube stereo integrateds occasional

MOnarch SE EL-84
GE Classic Series



> >2 zister integrateds idle
>
> Sound better that way.

You betcha

I forgot......

Marshall 50W combo modded and groovin'

Fender bassman 10 occasional

Bogen PP6V6 PA head converted to guitar amp I plug it into a Jensen 12 from
a B&H Filmosound cab.

Bogen/HK challenger PA amp parts

pair Altec SS #771 xover/amps bad parts

a crappy ratshack SS receiver scares household pests away

and a baldwin organ amp PP 6L6G with groovey ST bottle RCAs that might turn
into a vintage fender alike.

Lordy, what a bunch of crap! But it is FUN crap.

ROn

Steve Jones

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Gruvmyster wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:
>
> >2 SJS SE108 MkII Monoblocks w/WE437 ITC WE300Bs
> >1 Moffat Citation II w/WE350B outputs
> >1 HK Citation II
> >1 Scott 222C
> >Clarion in dash CD player (in my SHO)
> >Emerson clock radio
> >
> >-Steve Jones
>
> SE 300Bs? They must sound like garbage. Nothing but pure distortion.
> If you dig low output and high distortion, that's fine by me, but
> don't come crying to me about not being able to drive NHT speakers!

Arny? :-)

> Have you compared your Emerson clock radio to the SETs, preferably in
> a double-blind, level-matched test? My clock radio has lower
> distortion than your amps.

I have compared the reproduced sound of The Texas Chainsaw Orchestra
with a real chainsaw...... the wimpy clock radio wussed out on sheer
volume, but it did capture the pure emotional annoyance *very* well. The
SETA was a bit too refined to evoke the same level of raw personal
involvement (until I changed powercords, of course).

> You don't call them "HiFi", do you?

Nope. I call those Clarion and Emerson amps "Mid-Fi". :-)

-Steve Jones

> "Theory should be study, not doctrine."-- Carl von Clausewitz

"Of course truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction, after all has to
make sense." --Mark Twain

Pifob

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>I'm amazed at how many Citation II's there are on that list. Is this due
>to the excersize craze in the 80's? Lift and listen, lift and listen.....

How does the citation II compare to scotts,fisher or other vintage gear?

Cornmuse

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Okay, here is my list:
Quicksilver 8417 mono amps (slightly modified) on big system
Dynaco ST 70 radically modified on bedroom system
HK Citation V rebuild on the shelf
Dynaco ST70 and Scott 299D awaiting rebuild in the garage

Wilfred

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Pifob heeft geschreven in bericht
<199806182330...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>Okay with about 37 postings and a lot of email the average amp for about 43
>audiophiles is 14. Boy, is this wild! Anyways, the numbers will still
change as
>more postings come in . This thread turn out to be such a hit I think it
should
>be included in that proposed FAQ for RAT. What do you guys think?

Don't forget to include the addresses;
We'll be waiting for the visitors......

First, we'll show them our arsenal (of amps of course).
Then comes the fun part: let the music play...

Wilfred

Wilfred

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Ned Carlson heeft geschreven in bericht
<358a27c1...@news.supernews.com>...


>On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:39:43 -0400, John Diamantis <wb...@erols.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Jamie wrote:
>>>
>>> Great responses, folks..... Now if you could just leave a breif post
giving
>>> your address and when you'll next be out of town......
>>>
>>> Jamie.
>
>Only someone from Chicago would have the balls to post that..
>
>>
>>Hey Jamie, that's pretty funny! HAHAHA
>>
>>Now, do you want to talk about my firearms
>
>If I had to have a firearm: Colt .45 special.
>Big, fat , slow slug, maximum energy transferred
>to target.
>

>Second choice: .44 cal Remington
>blackpowder revolver. Same advantages as
>above. But easier to license.
>


No way!
I detest firearms!!
They are to weaponry what Solid Sand is to audio.
You can give me a nice sword anytime of day.
NOS Japanese preferred, or else a medieval European longsword.

>
>>and nitwit human skulls
>>collection?

Heads come off cleaner too >:-)

(insert maniacal laughter here)

Please drop off some time!
Ehm. -drop by- I mean of course...


Wilfred

Wilfred

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Forgot my friends' solid sand Fender practice amp that I persuaded to accept
either 6V6's or EL84's. I talk some major psycho-acoustical treatment here.
Though the brute force of two of these mighty valves is a little too much
for the
old combo that once was a '25W' ss-amp

Cheers,

Wilfred

Ned Carlson

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:16:32 -0400, Steve Longo
<Slong...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>For that remark, you must now cut down the largest tree in the forest
>with ...... a herring!

Bring me a large shubbery!

TubeGarden

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"Golden Throat" is a (chicken) souped up RCA AM table radio. As it happened, I
bought two radios that day. They are consecutive chassis model numbers. The
lower uses a simple bent sheet metal U chassis with the string tuning. The GT
has beautiful direct tuning on a 3/8" shaft, a heavy stamped chassis, and a
spring loaded rear panel mount. Tube complement is the same, except the GT has
a 50B5, which I heard was a temporary production substitution, The GT also has
a larger OT and all the caps have been dipped in wax, to make them quieter? Or
look bigger? Anyway, the speaker was actually mounted to the enclosure, an
unheard of excess labor cost in 1949!

Both have been cleaned and re-capped (no wax-dip, I am a philistine, I
know....) and the GT sounds better. If AM can sound better...

The crass comment about SET distortion reminded me of the one about asking the
young engineer if he had a good time on his honeymoon in Hawaii:

"I can't really say, I kept forgetting to push the stop button on my timer..."

Al B^}


Al Marcy
TubeG...@aol.com

Gary Bronner

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I might as well my two cents . . .

Harmon Kardon Citation II
Quicksilver Mono 8417s
Threshold S/200-II
Conrad Johnson MV-75a
Scott 299C
untested Fisher X100
half finished 300B (WE91 clone)
homebrew class A MOSFET amp

I figure that's enough for now.

---Gary

Conrad Field

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Ned Carlson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:37:40 GMT, KINK...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
>
> >3 Mac A116's
> >2 Marantz 8B's
> >2 Grommes 260a's
> >1 Grommes 260
> >2 Eico HF-60's
> >1 Eico HF-22
> >2 Fairchild 260's
> >2 Fisher 80AZ's
> >1 Lafeyette KT-600
> >2 Lafeyette LA-70's
>
> Of the above, what do you like best?
>
> > and of course integrateds, receivers, preamps and tuners
> > I'm thinking about a 10 step program
>
> You're two steps short...
>
> Ned Carlson Triode Electronics,2225 W Roscoe Chicago, IL, 60618 USA
> ph 773-871-7459 fax 773-871-7938
> 12:30 to 8 PM CT, (1830-0200 UTC) 12:30-5 Sat, Closed Wed & Sun
> http://www.triodeel.com
> Text file catalogs:Catalog 'Bot at cat...@triodeel.com
Hey! Good question to all who posted: list your top 3 favorites....
1. Scott 340 "Big block output Xformer"
2. Dyanco st70 with PAT4(something lacks in the pas3)
3. Fisher X-202-B
4. AR's old solid state-really clean...
Sorry only have "old stuff"
--
Conrad Field
mailto:cfi...@jps.net
http://www.jps.net/cfield

Ned Carlson

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:30:50 -0400, stokes@SPAM_BE_GONEexis.net
(Sheldon D. Stokes) wrote:

>In article <358a27c1...@news.supernews.com>, postm...@triodeel.com wrote:
>
>
>> You have Harvey Rosenberg's skull there?
>> His brain should be willed to science,
>> that's fer sure, so humanity can learn how
>> to prevent such accidents in the future.
>
>I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks he's an idiot.
>
>Sheldon

I'm not sure "idiot" is the right description.
He's sorta like Dennis Rodman, I don't
know quite what to make of him.

At least, between him & my wife, I've got enough
comedy material sourced to last me well into the
next century.

Ned Carlson

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:59:37 -0400, robot...@110.netSPAMNOT wrote:

>
>
>Ned Carlson wrote:
>
>> Second choice: .44 cal Remington blackpowder revolver. Same advantages as
>> above. But easier to license.
>

>And don't forget the neat & quick cylinder changeover on the 1858 Remington pattern!
>

And it's single action, too, which means your average gangbang
punk will need at least a week to figure out how it works.

Larry Roe

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Pifob wrote:
<snip>

> C'mon guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
>

I think this will be an interesting thread. As for me personally:

EICO HF-81, Fisher X-100, Harman-Kardon A-500 (2 of them), PAS-3X/ST-70,
EICO HF-12A.

Larry

William H. Boyd

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This is pretty scary to see in black & white!  Probably need to sell some or open a museum & charge admission!

Tube Hifi Types:
(2) 100 watt PPP EL34 & 3 6SN7 monoblocs with Sowter's OPTs  (main amps)
McIntosh MX110 Tuner/preamp (main preamp)
Fisher KX200
H. H. Scott 272
H. H. Scott 299C (I need wood or metal cases for several Scott units - got any?)
H. H. Scott 222C
Eico HF32
(2) Eico HF30 (actually these were both HF32 integrateds I modified to exact HF30 circuits - xformers were the same)
Eico HF85 preamp
Dyna ST70 (modified PS & 12AX7/AU7 driver/ph inv.)
Dyna PAS 3
(2) Pilot 240 integrated amps (I like Pilot stuff - anybody got any for sale?)
Pilot tuner preamp
Sherwood S5500II (I like Sherwood stuff too - anybody got any for sale?)
(2) Sherwood S8000 IV receivers
Sansui 1000A receiver (this is really a very good sounding and performing amp with right tubes & cap job)
Sherwood S1000 mono integrated (need one knob, BTW!)
(2) Heath A7 (these have been sold - I'm awaiting check)
Heath AA161 mono int. (need one knob, BTW!)
Fisher 80AZ (dissasembled)
(2) Acro 20/20 type but 40wpc EL84 monoblocs - homebrew
Stromberg Carlson AA432(?) 17wpc EL84 integrated

Solid State Hifi:
Crown DC300A
Hafler 500
B&K ST202
Denon PMA 730
Superphon Revelation DM+ preamp

Guitar types:
'74 SF Fender twin reverb
'84 SF Fender vibrolux reverb
'66 Magnatone MP3
'66 Vox Buckingham
Sunn Sonaro Bass head (looking for a single 15" cabinet to match - got one?)
Homebrew Guitar types:
'59 5F6A Fender Bassman Combo
'56 5E3 Fender Tweed Deluxe Combo
'62 Vox AC30 Super Twin Reverb head/cab
Vox AC15 combo
Marshall 18 watt combo
Vox Pacemaker combo
Vox Super Berkeley Reverb w/ AC30 power amp combo

Buffstereo

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>C'mon guys
> tell us a little about your inventory.
In the living room,
VAC "V W"s(2) w/PPP KT90s, Heath AA-71s w/ PP 5881s(late W-4s)(2),
Eico ST70 w/ PP7591s(sold but awaiting pickup), but listening to it meanwhile.
Nice!
In the kids rooms,
Fisher X100 w/ PP 7189s, Bogen RP35 w PP/6V6s,
In the garage awaiting work , mates, or both:
Scott 200 w/ PP 6GW8s, Eico 2050 w/o tubes, monos: Eico HT 32 PPP EL84,
Eico HF 12 PP EL84, Pilot AA-902 PP 6L6,
Knight KM-15 PP EL84(2) I working & 1 w/ blown power transformer, 1 Heathkit
EA3 PP EL84
It doesn't seem like much until I begin to type it in to post OR attempt to
explain to my wife the logic that dictates even more additions!
Regards Robert Thompson
Live and let live!


Sportster Dave

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Jun 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/21/98
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> Pifob wrote:
> <snip>

>
> > C'mon guys
> > tell us a little about your inventory.
> >

OK, I.ll bite on this just as a reality check...

HOMEBREW

P-P 6L6 monoblock running my JBL powered subwoofer (late '50s vintage)
P-P 6L6 monoblock on Allen Organ chassis
PPP 6550 monoblock two chassis bruiser w/Doc Hoyer OPT
SE EL509 stereo W/ One Electron UBT-1 OPTs
SE SV572-10 monoblock (2) custom chassis and transformer sets.
P-P 6AU5 stereo W/ 'junkbox' OPTs (my office amp!!!)
Tube Active Equalizer/Preamp (uses Hammond chassis)
Advanced Valve Topology Preamp (The pre used at VTV is an earlier
version of this)
(built into a Scott 355 tuner/pre
chassis)

VINTAGE

McIntosh MI200 P-P 572B's (gone through and moderately modified Sonic
Holograph

Projector)
Scott LK48 (2) (gone through)
Webster PPP 2A3 early '30's vintage recapped
Capehart PPP 2A3 recapped (this and above amp are ugly as sin, but ya
can't touch the
SOUND!!!)
McIntosh MC30 P-P 6L6 Monoblocks (2) Excellent, but the homebrew SE
EL509 amp edged
these out of the living room)
Atwater-Kent P-P 45 (my oldest amp '29 vintage)

(I have no vintage preamps; they can't touch the AVT sound.)
EICO HF20 integrateds (heavily modified)

Multi-Volti Devices

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You've gotten enough answers on amps!

I had 5 turntables at one point...

Murray

William Boyd

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I have four but only ever really use the first one
Thorens TD125, SME 3009 SII Impr. Shure V15VMR
Thorens TD115 Mk II Shure V15MR
Philips AF877, Ortofon OM20
Dual 1219, Shure M75

BB

Sheldon D. Stokes

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In article <199806191822...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
pi...@aol.com (Pifob) wrote:

I don't have a Scott or Fisher amplifier in the same power class as the
Citation II, so It's not really a fair comparison. The Citation II
handles transients with an ease that I have never heard in another
amplifier. The bass region is reproduced with an authority and a
cleanness that sounds like a very good solid state amp without the
harshness. The treble region is very clean clear and extended. I think
the massively wide bandwidth of this amplifier is really the key to it's
clarity and seeming ease of music reproduction. Music has a more
believable sense of weight and size with the Citation than either the
Fisher (7868 amp or EL84 based amp), of the Scott (7591 based) amps I
have.

I had a pair of Dyna MKIII's that are in the same power class as the
Citation II, but I traded them for the citation, so I couldn't do a direct
comparison. Even without being able to compare directly, the Citation is
pretty obviously better. But the MKIII is limited by it's wimpy power
supply and driver section.

The citation output iron is amazingly good, I think that's the main reason
that it sounds as good as it does.

BTW, Randy Fay is selling a pair of output trannies from a Citation II.
He wants $300 for them, and considering the cost of Hammond Iron, I'd go
for the Citation II iron over the hammond iron in a heartbeat.

Sheldon

--
"...from Genghis Kahn to the Fuller brush man, they're just a bunch

of losers like me" -Dave VanRonk

Sheldon D. Stokes

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In article <358E5D51...@earthlink.net>, whb...@earthlink.net wrote:

I've got my VPI/ETII/Benz Micro turntable in the main system collecting
dust, and I've got an old AR/Ortophon table in the back room system
collecting dust.

That's about 500 LPs/table

I don't listen to as much vinyl as I used to.

Ted van Beek

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I had to think about this for a while.

I consider that I have two:
one (HB) that I use to listening to my bad, scratchy, noisy old LP's.
one (also HB)(Constantly changing) that I use to listening to
my STILL bad, scratchy, noisy, still old LP's

Maybe the problem is in my (evergrowing) vinyl collection?

Maybe I'll change my JBL 220 towers, altho the cats will
hate me for getting rid of their scratching posts.

Ted

Pifob wrote in message <199806171533...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>Me and my wife just have a little bet on how many amps a common audiophile
owns
>(no dealers or retailers). I am talking about amps you use to substitute,
setup
>as second systems, etc. She thinks the most is 2, one to have as main and
one
>to have as backup. I know for sure there should be more (of course). C'mon


guys
>tell us a little about your inventory.
>
>

>Edsel

Pamela Hughes

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Multi-Volti Devices wrote:

> You've gotten enough answers on amps!
>
> I had 5 turntables at one point...
>
> Murray

I have two. Kenwood KD2000 & an SL-1200. Use both.

--
phu...@omnilinx.net
http://omnilinx.net/~phughes

hif...@webtv.net

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Until I discovered this thread, I thought I was alone in this disease. I
guess I am what you would call an "ampaholic." I currently own over 65
power amps(not including integrated amps or receivers) They are split
evenly between tube and solid state. I am constantly moving these amps
around in the several multi-amped systems I have set up around my home
and work areas. This doesn't count the over 40 peamps I have in house,
or my tube collection.(especially GEC KT 88's, whigh I have been
fanatically collecting for decades, and which I can't seem to stop
buying whenever I find them) Oh well, I guess it really is a harmless
disease, one that I seem to share with many others.

Thor...@tnt-audio.com

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Jun 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/23/98
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Yo Dudettes and Dudes,

Multi-Volti Devices wrote:

> You've gotten enough answers on amps!
>
> I had 5 turntables at one point...

At the moment I have only three.... My main one is a Oracle Delphi MK III and
I have two modded Pioneer Direct-drive around for "Bedroom DJ-ing". Used to
have a "Trio" (Kenwood in the UK) KD550 as well and a few others, but I
needed the Space....

I think I'll buy another Turntable soon though.....

Later Thorsten

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Kamaruddin

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Ron Bales wrote:

> About time I started counting.

Me too.

Main setup, McIntosh MC60s(Gold Lion KT88) or Heath W5M(MOV KT66) or Leak
Stereo(Tele EL34 or Mullard EL34) with Altec 604e, AR pre and Musical Fidelity CDT
player. Phono is Garrad with SME 3012R.

At work, Gamma 211 or Audion 300B with Loth-X Azimuth with Arcam CD player.
Getting a turntable for it.

For my teeny weeny bedroom, Fisher X-100(Tele 7189) with Rogers Ls3/5a or Trio (GE
7591)with AR speakers. Tiny Sony Discman for CD player. Phono is Micro Seiki with
SME 3009 arm. Tuner is either Trio, Quad or Dyna.

For my Computer, ( which I spend most of my time playing games). Philip 2 watter
(Tele EL95) or Homebrew 2 watter (6AQ5) with Marantz LS7. Soundcard SB AWE 64 Gold
connected to Roland SC88 MIDI sound module.

Under Restoration, Scott 299(7591) and Sansui integrated(7189).

Under construction, Homebrew 6BX7, 6V6, 6CM8, 6AQ5, and a Marantz 8 copy.

On display is a beautifully gold plated overdesigned horrible sounding Cary 300B.

The only SS amp I have is a Philip power amp which is doing a fine work as a
footrest under the computer table.

One Eye Jack

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