OTP: Harry Potter, Enemy of the State
Pete Milan
Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
promote witchcraft.
Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
to come along in years that actually got your children interested
in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
MAN, do people suck...)
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Stephen Cooke
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Pete Milan wrote:
> Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
> Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
> promote witchcraft.
>
> Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
> to come along in years that actually got your children interested
> in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
> MAN, do people suck...)
Heaven forbid they ever read the Oz books. I mean, Glinda the *GOOD*
Witch? Heresy!
swac
Roald Dahl must be spinning in his grave.
Dawn Acevedo
Watch, these "parents" will probably try to get Sabrina, The Teenage
Witch banned from TV as well.
Stephen Cooke
Actually, I think they are...certainly I've heard the Christian Right
speaking out against the show. I know this topic was discussed in great
detail on Politically Incorrect last week. :)
swac
Messing with the forces of darkness are no laughing matter, missy! From
now on you're grounded, until the trumpet sounds and the new Kingdom of
Jerusalem is established on high!
Joel Cunningham
Pete Milan <deu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s0bt9e...@news.supernews.com...
> Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
> Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
> promote witchcraft.
>
> Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
> to come along in years that actually got your children interested
> in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
> MAN, do people suck...)
I think there are irate prents all over who will ban anything, regardless of
the fact that they know nothing about it. My mom has a friend who read a
book (to her all black class of 2nd graders) called "Nappy Hair", a humerous
account of why blacks have hair different from Europeans. The kids loved
it! They thought it was imaginative and touching. Of course, a week later,
there was a big protest- the teacher was obviously PUTTING DOWN blacks by
reding this book WRITTEN BY A black person and HONORING BLACK HERITAGE!
Yes, we can't have that!...
None of the protestors had kids in the class, btw, and comments were printed
in the paper like, "I haven't read the book myself, but from the name I can
tell it is racist!"
Sigh...
> --
> Pete
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: I think there are irate prents all over who will ban anything, regardless of
: the fact that they know nothing about it. My mom has a friend who read a
: book (to her all black class of 2nd graders) called "Nappy Hair", a humerous
: account of why blacks have hair different from Europeans. The kids loved
: it! They thought it was imaginative and touching. Of course, a week later,
: there was a big protest- the teacher was obviously PUTTING DOWN blacks by
: reding this book WRITTEN BY A black person and HONORING BLACK HERITAGE!
: Yes, we can't have that!...
: None of the protestors had kids in the class, btw, and comments were printed
: in the paper like, "I haven't read the book myself, but from the name I can
: tell it is racist!"
: Sigh...
I believe her story made national headlines. The upshot was the teacher
quit her class, much to the delightof the protesters, with one or two of
the protestors wary that she may... want to teach again and READ THAT
BOOK!
Dammit, I just depressed myself. Let me go rent "Mr Smith Goes to
Washington" if only for the last 5 minutes....
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Jet Jaguar
<am...@chebucto.ns.ca> took Fight Club up a notch when they said:
>> Watch, these "parents" will probably try to get Sabrina, The Teenage
>> Witch banned from TV as well.
>
>Actually, I think they are...certainly I've heard the Christian Right
>speaking out against the show. I know this topic was discussed in great
>detail on Politically Incorrect last week. :)
Yes, there is an effort to get Sabrina off the air. I discovered this
while doing research for The Bewitched Project (Bewitched was also on
ABC).
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>>> Watch, these "parents" will probably try to get Sabrina, The Teenage
>>> Witch banned from TV as well.
>>
>>Actually, I think they are...certainly I've heard the Christian Right
>>speaking out against the show. I know this topic was discussed in great
>>detail on Politically Incorrect last week. :)
>
>Yes, there is an effort to get Sabrina off the air. I discovered this
>while doing research for The Bewitched Project (Bewitched was also on
>ABC).
Uh-huh.....
I think these people need to catch the next time achine back to the Puritan
ages.
Becky "Gypsy Jr."
(has all three HP books and loves them!)
rogal nicholas louis
>
> >> Watch, these "parents" will probably try to get Sabrina, The Teenage
> >> Witch banned from TV as well.
Well if I was them I'd be upset at a protaganist that has
night-unlimited power which she typically only uses to manipulate others
in a transparently self-obsessed and evil manner. Instead of, I don't
know, ending world hunger, cureing diseases, or fighting ninja's.
NameLite
>On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Dawn Acevedo wrote:
>> Watch, these "parents" will probably try to get Sabrina, The Teenage
>> Witch banned from TV as well.
>
>Actually, I think they are...certainly I've heard the Christian Right
>speaking out against the show. I know this topic was discussed in great
>detail on Politically Incorrect last week. :)
>
>swac
>Messing with the forces of darkness are no laughing matter, missy! From
>now on you're grounded, until the trumpet sounds and the new Kingdom of
>Jerusalem is established on high!
I don't know anything about any current efforts to get the show banned, but
here's part of the "Focus on the Family" review of "Sabrina":
". . . .The very idea of a show about a witch may immediately alienate
Christian families. And it should (Deut. 18:9-13, Micah 5:12, Gal. 5:19-21).
. . .It would seem, at first glance, that Christians could easily excuse
Sabrina's magical powers as merely harmless tools used to teach thoughtful life
lessons. After all, even C.S. Lewis used "magic" in his classic tales of
Narnia. But Sabrina crosses a significant and non-negotiable line by using
witchcraft as the source of the magic. Alchemy books. Cauldrons of potions full
of lizard tongues and newt hearts. Incantations, spells and sorcery.
Divination. Wizardry. All of which fly in the face of God's direct command to
never practice witchcraft in any form. There are no "white witches" to God. "
[One of God's Creatures]
wrote:
>Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
>Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
>promote witchcraft.
>
>Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
>to come along in years that actually got your children interested
>in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
>MAN, do people suck...)
Just wanted to pop in and remind everyone about how "Christian Right
Parents" had the _Strega Nona_ books banned from some schools.
That's right! The charming kindergarten books about the helpful witch
who solves people's problems, written and illustrated by Tomie
DePaola, the man who also wrote/illustrated at least 12
Christian-related books, including "The Miracles of Jesus", and
countless othe kid classics such as "The Cloud Book" and "Pancakes for
Breakfast".
Fun fun fun!
Jesus (see that, Concerned Parents?), one wrong step and they jump
down your throat!
So, basically what they're saying here is that Jesus and his
accredited Freinds are the only ones who can help, heal, or perform
miracles.
Otherwise it's the work of S-t-n.
Well, I may just as well give up trying to help my fellow man and all
that crap!
Man, someone needs to give these Concerned Parents Valium, or
something...
Jim "Soulless killing machine" Lauwers
_____________________
COMMANDMENT THE XI
"Fuck any freedoms of speech put in place by rulers - twist my words
to your own means and become the fanatics the Romans feared you to be
when they made martyrs of many of you, and crucified my son! oh...
wait... that hasn't happened yet, has it.... well, store this one for
later, then."
I'm sorry. It's not like I have anything against religion.
I do honestly believe that it has a mainly positive effect on mankind,
which is its purpose.
But it's this kind of idiotic fanaticism that makes me wonder just how
many layers of irony God (or Gods, for all you polytheists out there)
likes to spin out at once :).
Once again, apologies to all those offended. Except those who this was
meant to offend.
"God'll get you for that, Walter!"
JimL2
<woem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Pete Milan <deu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:s0bt9e...@news.supernews.com...
>> Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
>> Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
>> promote witchcraft.
>>
>> Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
>> to come along in years that actually got your children interested
>> in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
>> MAN, do people suck...)
>
>I think there are irate prents all over who will ban anything, regardless of
>the fact that they know nothing about it. My mom has a friend who read a
>book (to her all black class of 2nd graders) called "Nappy Hair", a humerous
>account of why blacks have hair different from Europeans. The kids loved
>it! They thought it was imaginative and touching. Of course, a week later,
>there was a big protest- the teacher was obviously PUTTING DOWN blacks by
>reding this book WRITTEN BY A black person and HONORING BLACK HERITAGE!
>Yes, we can't have that!...
>
>None of the protestors had kids in the class, btw, and comments were printed
>in the paper like, "I haven't read the book myself, but from the name I can
>tell it is racist!"
>
>Sigh...
Heh.
Yep.
It's a story about a little girl who wouldn't comb her hair.
They then had a conference at the school, and the techer laughed
nervously - a compulsive habit.
The mob of angry persons (can't be un-PC and call them "Stupid
Fuckers", can we? that'd be unkind to the barren ones!) rushed the
stage, and it took the principle and several other teachers (I think)
to protect the poor teacher.
The court later overturned the mob demand that she should be fired,
sued, lynched, drawn and quartered, and have her head impaled upon a
pike upon the city gate (I'm probably kidding about the last 3), but
the teacher was so outraged she quit in protest.
So, long story short, Stupid Fuckers ruined a great thing for innocent
parents and children.
[singing w/ piano accomp.] And that's what makes the world go
'ro-o-ound!
Jim "Oops! I said Stupid Fuckers! Hey, guess what: Penis! Uh-oh! We
can't have our children learning about their bodies while in school!
We have to not breach the issue ourselves!" Lauwers
"And then the stork flies over the house, and..."
I know it's not related. But I'm tired.
David Crowe
: Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
: Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
: promote witchcraft.
: Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
: to come along in years that actually got your children interested
: in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
: MAN, do people suck...)
There are some people who truly believe what Jerry Falwell once said: That
the only book good Christians need to read is the Bible.
Personally, I'd like to see a law passed that if you protest or complain
about the content of a book or film without having seen/read it, I (or a
designated proxy) should get to hit you in the head with a sack full of
doorknobs.
A rider to this bill would extend this proviso to complaining about
elected officials when you didn't vote in the last election.
Here in Mesa, some illiterate parents are trying to get Huck Finn pulled
from schools because it contains the word "nigger" and what could children
learn from that? Yes, we must never forget that Twain was a staunch
advocate of racism...
--
David "No Nickname" Crowe http://www.primenet.com/~jetman
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to find out who this Cubone guy is. Any
cute cartoon animal who wears the skull of one of his defeated enemies as
headwear is my kinda cute cartoon animal.
-Kurt Busiek on Pokemon
Pete Milan
JimL2 [One of God's Creatures] <Ji...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:38068671...@news.ne.mediaone.net...
> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:24:59 -0400, "Pete Milan" <deu...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
> >Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
> >promote witchcraft.
> >
> >Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
> >to come along in years that actually got your children interested
> >in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
> >MAN, do people suck...)
>
Hey, how d'you think I feel? I supposedly worship the same
deity as these assholes. It's really embarassing, let me
tell you. I see these lackwits trying to ban things left and
right and am left feeling like a Bad Christian because
I'm not doing my part to smite the unbelievers.
Ah, screw 'em. This actually makes me WANT to read
the Harry Potter books. (Although I think I already have...
anybody else ever read The Books of Magic?) Think
I'll go home and read the script to Dogma, followed by
my Preacher trade paperback...
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Dumb all over and a little ugly on the side
Pete Milan
David Crowe <jet...@primenet.com> wrote in message
news:7u6a5g$5t9$3...@nnrp03.primenet.com...
> Pete Milan <deu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> : Apparently, a group of South Carolina parents is trying to have Ye
> : Olde Harry Potter books banned from schools because they
> : promote witchcraft.
>
> : Yeah, that's great, folks. You do that. Try and ban the only thing
> : to come along in years that actually got your children interested
> : in reading. (And a week of depressing news gets worse.
> : MAN, do people suck...)
>
> There are some people who truly believe what Jerry Falwell once said: That
> the only book good Christians need to read is the Bible.
And there are some people who believe what Aaron Sorkin
said: Jerry Falwell is a big fatass. (I love that guy. Anyone
watch Sports Night or The West Wing?)
> --
> David "No Nickname" Crowe http://www.primenet.com/~jetman
>
> Now if you'll excuse me, I have to find out who this Cubone guy is. Any
> cute cartoon animal who wears the skull of one of his defeated enemies as
> headwear is my kinda cute cartoon animal.
> -Kurt Busiek on Pokemon
Ahhh, Kurt.
--
Pete
Fish Eye No Miko
>Hey, how d'you think I feel? I supposedly worship the same deity as
>these assholes. It's really embarassing, let me tell you. I see these
>lackwits trying to ban things left and right and am left feeling like a
>Bad Christian because I'm not doing my part to smite the unbelievers.
>
>Ah, screw 'em. This actually makes me WANT to read the Harry Potter
>books. (Although I think I already have... anybody else ever read The
>Books of Magic?) Think I'll go home and read the script to Dogma, followed
>by my Preacher trade paperback...
Don't forget to go rent _Priest_.
^_^
Catherine Johnson.
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killing... It's wrong."
-Seta Soujiro, _Rurouni Kenshin_
Mike Barklage
> >books. (Although I think I already have... anybody else ever read The
> >Books of Magic?) Think I'll go home and read the script to Dogma,
followed
> >by my Preacher trade paperback...
>
> Don't forget to go rent _Priest_.
Never saw PRIEST, but I *did* just tape LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
off Bravo the other day. (Taped off TV because neither Blockbuster
nor Hollywood Video apparently have the testicular fortitude to keep
it on the shelf...)
I have yet to watch it. This makes me want to see it even *more*.
BTW, I'm really *hoping* there are protesters when I see DOGMA on
opening night, Nov. 12. Just so I can say I broke picket lines to
see it. Who knows -- maybe I'll get confrontational and make a
total ass of myself! Stay tuned. :-)
--
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Before you buy.
Robert Hutchinson
>
> Mike Cohen wrote:
>
> : They can all go fuck themselves.
>
> : [sorry, these religious creeps are REALLY starting to piss me off]
>
> AMEN! (Oops sorry about that.)
>
> It's because of these intolerant, bigoted, freaks that I left
> Christianity AND the Republican party.
Is the human race next on the list?
Robert Hutchinson
Hoping it's obvious enough that the above is intended as humor.
Strongly hoping it's not taken as "Leave the planet, you jerk," because
that's not how it's meant, and Mark isn't a jerk.
Finding these postscripts to be annoying.
Realizing they're not even sentences, yet they end with periods.
cwe...@eclipse.net
> BTW, I'm really *hoping* there are protesters when I see DOGMA on
> opening night, Nov. 12. Just so I can say I broke picket lines to
> see it. Who knows -- maybe I'll get confrontational and make a
> total ass of myself! Stay tuned. :-)
Hey, I went to see the Sensations exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum this
weekend. When I arrived, right as the museum was opening, there was no
line, and not wait, and no protesters. However, when we left, several
hours later, not only were there protesters armed with bullhorns and
chanting the lords prayer, the lines of people who were there to
actually see the exhibit were extending down and around the block.
One official at the museum said that they couldn't have paid for the
publicity Mayor Giuliani and the protestors brought the museum. <Shrug>
I think it's interesting that one person or groups outrage makes stuff
more desireable to another group.
Cathy Weeks
Jeanne Burch
Robert Hutchinson wrote:
>
> Mark Andrew Siefert wrote:
> >
> > Mike Cohen wrote:
> >
> > : They can all go fuck themselves.
> >
> > : [sorry, these religious creeps are REALLY starting to piss me off]
> >
> > AMEN! (Oops sorry about that.)
> >
> > It's because of these intolerant, bigoted, freaks that I left
> > Christianity AND the Republican party.
>
> Is the human race next on the list?
Not for me! But only because it's clear that 'humans' are not included
in the narrow plans of either of the aforementioned groups.
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Antaeus Feldspar
> Fish Eye No Miko wrote:
> >
> > Pete Milan wrote in message ...
> >
> > >Hey, how d'you think I feel? I supposedly worship the same deity as
> > >these assholes. It's really embarassing, let me tell you. I see these
> > >lackwits trying to ban things left and right and am left feeling like a
> > >Bad Christian because I'm not doing my part to smite the unbelievers.
> > >
> > >Ah, screw 'em. This actually makes me WANT to read the Harry Potter
> > >books. (Although I think I already have... anybody else ever read The
> > >Books of Magic?) Think I'll go home and read the script to Dogma, followed
> > >by my Preacher trade paperback...
> >
> > Don't forget to go rent _Priest_.
>
> I actually BOUGHT Kiki's Delivery Service because it was blacklisted by
> a Christian group. I had never heard of it before buying it, but I was
> DAMNED if I was going to not buy it after that!
>
> And it was one of the best animated movies I ever saw. I showed to my
> Mom. She went out and bought a copy for herself, the only video tape
> she's ever bought.
>
> Thanks, Christian Coalition, for pointing us toward a worthwhile
> creative effort. Again.
The interesting thing is that a line removed in the translation
actually attributes Kiki's witch's powers to God. "Witch's blood,
artist's blood, baker's blood... God gives everyone some special
talent. But it can really make life difficult for you."
I still wonder whether there would have been more uproar or less
had that line not gotten lost...
-jc
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Mark Andrew Siefert
Organization:
Jeanne Burch <jbu...@SPAMLOCK.sunstroke.sdsu.edu> wrote:
:> > It's because of these intolerant, bigoted, freaks that I left
:> > Christianity AND the Republican party.
:>
:> Is the human race next on the list?
: Not for me! But only because it's clear that 'humans' are not included
: in the narrow plans of either of the aforementioned groups.
Well that depends... you see, I left the GOP for the Libertarain
Party. I may have abandoned conservatism, but I haven't abandoned my
senses.
That probablly lowers me a little in your estimations of me,
doesn't it?
--
Later,
Mark A. Siefert
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Pete Milan
Jim Ellwanger <trai...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:trainman1-151...@user-38ldmm6.dialup.mindspring.com...
> In article <s0edbc...@news.supernews.com>, "Pete Milan"
> <deu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >And there are some people who believe what Aaron Sorkin
> >said: Jerry Falwell is a big fatass. (I love that guy. Anyone
> >watch Sports Night or The West Wing?)
>
> JIM: I didn't until I had to closed-caption "Sports Night."
>
> PETE: You had to closed-caption "Sports Night"?
>
> JIM: I had to closed-caption "Sports Night."
>
> PETE: Did you like closed-captioning "Sports Night"?
>
> JIM: I did not like closed-captioning "Sports Night."
>
> PETE: Why did you not like closed-captioning "Sports Night"?
>
> JIM: Everyone talks too fast on "Sports Night."
>
> PETE: Everyone talks too fast on "Sports Night"?
>
> JIM: Everyone talks too fast on "Sports Night." The scripts are 70 pages
> long for a half-hour show.
>
> PETE: The scripts are 70 pages long for a half-hour show?
>
> JIM: The scripts are 70 pages long for a half-hour show, which is about
> twice as long as the usual script for the usual half-hour sitcom, but most
> of it is repetitive dialogue such as this.
>
> PETE: This is repetitive dialogue?
>
> (elapsed time 00:00:10.00; repeat until time code reads 21:15:00.00).
LOL! Marry me, you magnificent bastard!