Green US Passports
patrick
Patrick
Tom and Wendy Hudson
a month ago and it is blue.
t and w
Sarah Scheidel
: What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
Well, I got my passport in 1994 and it's blue...
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Miguel Cruz
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
Not so new. I think they tried them for a while and gave up on it because
they realized they looked like Libyan flags. Or maybe because they kept
getting lost when people dropped them in the grass. Or something. Anyway,
the new ones seem to be blue again.
miguel
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bill
>
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
There was only a brief window of green US passports. As 'green' doesn't
feature in 'red, white, and blue' or some such reason, they went back to
blue promptly. Apparently travellers really cared, which is hard to
fathom.
bill
Robert Buxbaum
FWIW, they were green back in the sixties. I don't recall when they went
blue, but it seems there was a brief green period again and then they
turned blue once more.
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>
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
> Patrick
Nah! They are for environmentalists!
Or is it for those whose U.S. money runs off to easily?
Or are they for U.S. Martians?
Or are they for Notre Dame football players?
Or are they for someone that might get caught smoking funny little
cigarettes?
W. A. Robison
wrote:
>What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
>Patrick
My wife and I have a blue and a green. We had a blue in 1983 and when
we got the new one in 1993, it was green. The 93 ones are the only
ones that I know of that are green now. Someone in line once told us
that it was done because 1993 was the 200th anniversary of ???-- the
State Department, the Foreign Service, the U.S. Passport?? I don't
remember for sure, but it seems that whoever told us about it
mentioned something about Benjamin Franklin. Maybe someone from the
U.S. State department will read this posting and give us the REAL
answer-- something like, "We ran out of blue covers that year"
At first I didn't like the green one, but now I do. It's a good
conversation piece when standing in a long "US Citizens Only" line--
Someone's always trying to direct me to the other lines.
W. A. Robison
sjoerd van der voet
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
> Patrick
So (after reading all of the replies) my American friend was lying to
me when he told me green passports were given to ex-diplomats and
ex-government employees?
Sjoerd
Durant Imboden
bill wrote in message <3724FB...@worldnet.att.net>...
>patrick wrote:
>>
>> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>>
>> Patrick
>
>feature in 'red, white, and blue' or some such reason, they went back to
>blue promptly. Apparently travellers really cared, which is hard to
>fathom.
>
>bill
I remember having green passports back in the 1950s and 1960s. That was a
long time ago, though. :-)
- Durant
Durant Imboden
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Miguel Cruz
> So (after reading all of the replies) my American friend was lying to me
> when he told me green passports were given to ex-diplomats and
> ex-government employees?
Yup. Government employees have black passports for official travel but when
they leave their job (or are traveling in a capacity not connected with
their job or posting) they use their own plain old-fashioned passports like
everyone else.
miguel (occasional government employee)
hamp...@anvi.com
patrick <proff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
> Patrick
>
for a very short time in the early 90s they issued green ones. they mean
nothing special. then went back to blue. Also many that were issued in Europe
and consulates were green. I lived in Germany then and mine is green.
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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:11:22 -0500, "Durant Imboden"
<goeurop...@miningco.com> wrote:
>
>bill wrote in message <3724FB...@worldnet.att.net>...
>>patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>
bill
> So (after reading all of the replies) my American friend was lying to
> me when he told me green passports were given to ex-diplomats and
> ex-government employees?
>
> Sjoerd
May we say "mistaken", or do you know your friend too well for the
benefit of the doubt?
bill
Robert Buxbaum
(Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>sjoerd van der voet <sjo...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> So (after reading all of the replies) my American friend was lying to me
>> when he told me green passports were given to ex-diplomats and
>> ex-government employees?
>
>Yup. Government employees have black passports for official travel but when
>they leave their job (or are traveling in a capacity not connected with
>their job or posting) they use their own plain old-fashioned passports like
>everyone else.
>
>miguel (occasional government employee)
Hell, most of us figure we work full time for the IRS. ;-) (For those
of you who live outside the US, the IRS is the Internal Reveue Service,
one of whose jobs is to collect income tax.)
sjoerd van der voet
> sjoerd van der voet wrote:
>
> > So (after reading all of the replies) my American friend was
> lying to
> > me when he told me green passports were given to ex-diplomats and
> > ex-government employees?
> >
> > Sjoerd
>
> May we say "mistaken", or do you know your friend too well for the
> benefit of the doubt?
>
> bill
Ummh, difficult question. Well, let's give him the benefit of the
doubt. :-)
Sjoerd
Michael Forrest
.rcn.com>, Robert Buxbaum <b...@worldtable.com> writes
>
>Hell, most of us figure we work full time for the IRS. ;-)
It's good to think of the date in the year that you stop working fill
time for the IRS/Inland Revenue. It's sometime in May in the UK I think
- depending on how you treat VAT and your income band, of course.
> (For those
>of you who live outside the US, the IRS is the Internal Reveue Service,
>one of whose jobs is to collect income tax.)
>
--
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Cristi Nicole Cunningham
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
> Patrick
My brother's passport, issued in 1993, is green. Evidently it has to do
with who gets the passport for you -it was his employer- and what you are
primarily using it for. Namely, a typical tourist passport is blue, a
government passport is brown, a green one is commercial. However, he uses
his green one as a tourist passport without problems, so who knows.
cristi
The views presented in this email do not necessarily represent those of
Ole Miss nor my employer.---Propos strictement personnels.
Cristi Cunningham
Student in Political Science and French
The University of Mississippi
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Miguel Cruz
> My brother's passport, issued in 1993, is green. Evidently it has to do
> with who gets the passport for you -it was his employer- and what you are
> primarily using it for. Namely, a typical tourist passport is blue, a
> government passport is brown, a green one is commercial.
What on earth is a "commercial passport"?
US Government "Special Passports" are black.
miguel
DiCannon
All US tourist passports were green in 1993 for some reason. My husband got
one. It replaced his expired blue passport. He has nothing to do with
government. They went back to the standard blue passports shortly after that.
TsuiDF
passport for official travel; it had a red cover. My current US
passport (personal) is blue; in the early 90s my then-spouse was issued
one of those with green covers and he wasn't a diplomat or anything,
they just used green for a little while -- it causes problems sometimes,
some foreign immigrations officials don't know about them and are
convinced it's fake. Doesn't help that he's not white, either . . .
sigh.
Stephanie M in M20
Robert Buxbaum
<Pine.SGI.4.03.990427...@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu>,
Cristi Nicole Cunningham <cncu...@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, patrick wrote:
>
>> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>>
>> Patrick
>
>My brother's passport, issued in 1993, is green. Evidently it has to do
>with who gets the passport for you -it was his employer- and what you are
>primarily using it for. Namely, a typical tourist passport is blue, a
>government passport is brown, a green one is commercial.
Nonsense.
>However, he uses
>his green one as a tourist passport without problems, so who knows.
Don't know, don't tell. ;-) Sorry I think you are inferring all too much
from the fact that your brother just happened to get a passport during the
short period they went back to green and that his employer was involved in
the process. BTW, what do you mean his employer got it for him? He had
to sign the papers and all. I suspect his employer just paid for it and
helped with the filing, but it's your brother's passport and it's not
issued in the name of his employer, I'll bet.
>cristi
>
>The views presented in this email do not necessarily represent those of
>Ole Miss nor my employer.---Propos strictement personnels.
>
>Cristi Cunningham
>Student in Political Science and French
>The University of Mississippi
>ICQ 18339097
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Gregory Monahan
I always thought the official ones were red. Or was that military
passports? Or am I just imagining things again?! ;-)
Greg M.
gmon...@eou.edu
dav...@my-dejanews.com
gmon...@emily.eou.edu (Gregory Monahan) wrote:
>
> I always thought the official ones were red. Or was that military
> passports? Or am I just imagining things again?! ;-)
You're not imagining. Official and diplomatic passports are red instead of
the civilian blue. Maybe in the past they may have been green.
dav...@my-dejanews.com
use...@admin.u.nu (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>
> US Government "Special Passports" are black.
>
> miguel
I don't know where you got your official passport from, Miguel, but I've had
two, and both are red. As are the diplomatic passports I've seen some of my
colleagues use. Is color blindness a problem here ;-)??
Dave
Michael Forrest
writes
>n article <gMoV2.13354$95.3...@news2.giganews.com>,
> use...@admin.u.nu (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>
>>
>> US Government "Special Passports" are black.
>>
>> miguel
>
>I don't know where you got your official passport from, Miguel, but I've had
>two, and both are red. As are the diplomatic passports I've seen some of my
>colleagues use. Is color blindness a problem here ;-)??
>
>
This thread is fascinating - it has generated 26 posts (to date) about
something with only a very tenuous connection with Europe. And even more
fascinating, there appear to be at least two contradictory definitions
for each colour. It must be related to economics where there are
multiple contradictory answers to every question. If someone steals the
examination papers to an economics exam you only have to change the
answers, not reset the papers.
--
Michael Forrest
Hillary Gorman
Michael Forrest <ml...@sonning.demon.co.uk> wrote:
*This thread is fascinating - it has generated 26 posts (to date) about
*something with only a very tenuous connection with Europe. And even more
Well, I didn't know this group was only for posting about Europe. I
thought it was a group in which people could discuss travel within, to, or
from Europe. If I am correct, then discussion about US Passports could
fall within that category of "travel to Europe (from the US)" - although
admittedly the color of the passport is a bit far afield. Of course, if
people are worried that their purple US passport is going to get rejected
as a fraudulent document by the immigration people in some obscure
European border crossing, then...
h.
--
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Michael Forrest
<hil...@hillary.net> writes
>In <RhjzgOAx...@sonning.demon.co.uk>,
>Michael Forrest <ml...@sonning.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>*This thread is fascinating - it has generated 26 posts (to date) about
>*something with only a very tenuous connection with Europe. And even more
>
>Well, I didn't know this group was only for posting about Europe. I
>thought it was a group in which people could discuss travel within, to, or
>from Europe. If I am correct, then discussion about US Passports could
>fall within that category of "travel to Europe (from the US)" - although
>admittedly the color of the passport is a bit far afield. Of course, if
>people are worried that their purple US passport is going to get rejected
>as a fraudulent document by the immigration people in some obscure
>European border crossing, then...
>
generated so many on what is, after all, a somewhat narrow topic on
which there must in fact be some fairly simple answers. I said it was
fascinating rather than objecting to it.
--
Michael Forrest
Miguel Cruz
> use...@admin.u.nu (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>> US Government "Special Passports" are black.
>
> two, and both are red. As are the diplomatic passports I've seen some of my
> colleagues use.
State Department. Perhaps that's changed over time as well.
Sheila Viemeister
>
> You're not imagining. Official and diplomatic passports are red instead of
> the civilian blue. Maybe in the past they may have been green.
>
ones were green, and diplomatic were black?
Looking at my collection of old passports, I have green, blue-green,
dark blue, and red.
Sheila Mackay Viemeister
Bill Wright
> What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>
> Patrick
My understanding was that 1993 was the 200th anniversary of the US State
Department, and they issued the green passports in recognition of that.
(Why green? Who knows!)
This information from my brother, who got a green one, and asked the
agency why the different color.
Cheers,
Bill:)
--
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Old Greenwich, CT USA
bwri...@earthlink.net
Stephen and LInda Hawkins
DiCannon <dica...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990427161447...@ng-fw1.aol.com...
> All US tourist passports were green in 1993 for some reason. My husband
got
> one. It replaced his expired blue passport. He has nothing to do with
> government. They went back to the standard blue passports shortly after
that.
>
I got my son's first passport in Jan/Feb 93 and it has a blue cover
FWIW, it was a 5 year child's passport, rather than a 10 year.
patrick
other.
Do we know if the inside is the same for the Green vs. Blue ?
Cheers,
Patrick
vale...@my-dejanews.com
(1993), honoring Benjamin Franklin and the US Foreign Service. A few were
still
around in early 1994, but the vast majority of the 2m + were given out in '93.
You'll still see a few around since they don't expire until 2003.
The U.S. has only two other kinds: black, for diplomats and their families,
and red "official" passports, for people traveling on some kind of government
business, i.e. Congresspeople, FBI, Treasury, Commerce, etc. There is no
such thing as a "commercial passport."
Valerie
In article <gMoV2.13354$95.3...@news2.giganews.com>,
use...@admin.u.nu (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> Cristi Nicole Cunningham <cncu...@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> wrote:
> > My brother's passport, issued in 1993, is green. Evidently it has to do
> > with who gets the passport for you -it was his employer- and what you are
> > primarily using it for. Namely, a typical tourist passport is blue, a
> > government passport is brown, a green one is commercial.
>
> What on earth is a "commercial passport"?
>
> US Government "Special Passports" are black.
>
> miguel
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TsuiDF
>
> Fascinating to read all these responses. Some even contradict each
> other.
>
> Do we know if the inside is the same for the Green vs. Blue ?
>
I believe the paper pages in the green one had the different state flags
or logos on them, something thematic like that, as opposed to the more
boring logo (whatever it is, it hasn't caught my eye the way the other
one did!) in the blue ones.
Stephanie M in M20
Tom and Wendy Hudson
green passport, issued in 1993. "This edition of the United States
Passport honors both Dr. Benjamin Franklin, perhaps our most
distinguished early diplomat, and the bicentennial anniversary of the
U.S. Consular Service. Dr. Franklin's outstanding accomplishments are
closely interwoven into the early history of the Consular Service."
Now, does that solve the mystery?
As for any differences inside the two different colored passports, the
only difference that I can see, other than the several paragraphs about
Benjamin Franklin in the green one, is that my wife's new blue
passport's pages have more colorful background markings on them.
t and w
vale...@my-dejanews.com
1976 called "The United States Passport: Past, Present, Future." It is
probably out of print, but a copy should be available at better libraries.
It tells the whole history of US passports from before the American
Revolution down to the Bicenntenial.
In article <12970-37...@newsd-163.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
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Tony Rice
> As for any differences inside the two different colored passports, the
> > only difference that I can see, other than the several paragraphs about
> > Benjamin Franklin in the green one, is that my wife's new blue
> > passport's pages have more colorful background markings on them.
And also incorrectly identifies Virginia as "State of Virginia" rather than
"Commonwealth of Virginia". I suspect the other commonwealths are mislabeled as
states as well.
Shesh.
Amy Battis
says...
>
>On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:59:59 -0600, patrick <proff...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>What's the deal with the Green US passports ? Are they the new ones ?
>>
>>Patrick
>we got the new one in 1993, it was green. The 93 ones are the only
>ones that I know of that are green now. Someone in line once told us
>that it was done because 1993 was the 200th anniversary of ???-- the
>State Department, the Foreign Service, the U.S. Passport?? I don't
>remember for sure, but it seems that whoever told us about it
>mentioned something about Benjamin Franklin. Maybe someone from the
>U.S. State department will read this posting and give us the REAL
>answer-- something like, "We ran out of blue covers that year"
>
>At first I didn't like the green one, but now I do. It's a good
>conversation piece when standing in a long "US Citizens Only" line--
>Someone's always trying to direct me to the other lines.
>
>W. A. Robison
>
>
I have a green one issued in 1993, and it's to celebrate the 200th
Anniversary of the US Consular Service and to honor Ben Franklin. There
were only 1000 issued, I believe.
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PBPROVENCE
Are they the new ones ?>>
US Passports have always been green - various shades of green, but green
nonetheless (I still have one of mine from the late 1950's when they were green
with little drawings of coins all over it).
The Blue covers were issued in 1976 to celebrate the Bicentennial.... and I'd
say they made a few too many since they are only now starting to run out. Most
Embassies issue new passports that are the leftover Blue ones (if you live
overseas and have your passport renewed). A few years ago I requested, and
received, the Green version when I renewed my passport here in France. I must
say though, that the new passport covers tend to curl in damp weather.....
you'd think for what they cost, they'd be a little better made.
PBProvence
Bob
Germany and it was blue. Everyone I know, with the exception of one
has a blue passport. I live overseas so I know A LOT of people with
passports and they are all blue. My wife got her passport from the
passport office in San Fransisco last year and it is blue. The State
Department must have one hell of a supply of blue passports.
ntaylor
My passport,around 5 years old, has curled and creased
so badly the scanner they use at Immigration will not read
it,, they have to enter the info manually.
Paul Tauger
than 10 years later in the early 80s -- it was blue, as have been all my
passports since then. As I recall, the dimensions of that early green one
were different, too -- the width was the same but I think it was longer.
Miguel Cruz wrote in message ...
>PBPROVENCE <pbpro...@aol.com> wrote:
>> US Passports have always been green - various shades of green, but green
>> nonetheless (I still have one of mine from the late 1950's when they were
green
>> with little drawings of coins all over it).
>>
>> The Blue covers were issued in 1976 to celebrate the Bicentennial.
>
>You've got it backwards.
Miguel Cruz
Miguel Cruz
> My passport,around 5 years old, has curled and creased so badly the
> info manually.
All the gold ink long ago wore off the front cover of mine, so it's just
sort of a blank blue book (this only seems to cause trouble for US
immigration inspectors, who seem to think that I somehow re-stapled the core
of my Gondwanaland passport into a blue book in order to sneak past them).
A few years ago, when the thing started to get pretty shabby, I encased the
front and back covers in clear cellotape, and it's held up delightfully
ever since the treatment.
PTDANIEL
>than 10 years later in the early 80s -- it was blue, as have been all my
>passports since then.
Well, just to add to the confusion: my first passport (from Fall 1983) was
Green; the replacement 10 years later (and still current) was Blue.
vale...@my-deja.com
passport?
What were the dimensions? Where was it issued? What was the series
number? I ask because to my knowledge, after the Bicentennial version
in
1976, all U.S. "normal" passports were blue until the special edition
"Ben Franklin" version of 1993. Are you sure the color was really
green, and not a funny shade of blue? Passports issued 1962-75 were a
kind of bluish-green, neither one color nor the other really...
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I got my first passport in the late summer of 1983. It was BLUE.
When I replaced it 10 years later, the new one was GREEN.
My husband's replacement in 1997 was blue, just like the ones
he in had in '82 and '87.
If we stop and think about it, it is the *US Government* handing
these things out. No wonder there's no rhyme or reason to the
colors. <grin>
Carol
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Hmmm... I think I smell a conspiracy... <grin>
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