More Lives!
DaveMore
at the moment for much more than a quick greeting to old friends, and a
friendly hello to new. I really just wanted to tip you off to the revamped
"Marlowe Lives" website, which contains a link to my "rapic" poem about Marlowe
and the Age of Shakespeare, *The Marliad*. (I apologize to Internet Explorer
users for the few odd bits of code in the poem as it is currently posted. It'll
be cleaned-up when I'm back from vacation next week. Looking forward to some
lively discussion--and perhaps even some verse exchanges--then.)
David "I'm getting so old, I hardly remember anything any" More
Greg Reynolds
Can you remember the url?
lyra
I found this at Google...
http://www.marlovian.com/
(quote)
Poet-dramatist Christopher Marlowe was not murdered in 1593, but
banished.
He continued writing under the pseudonym "William Shakespeare."
website of the Marlowe Lives! Association
Praise for Christopher Marlowe:
Marlowe is the greatest discoverer, the most daring pioneer, in all
our poetic literature. Before him there was no genuine English blank
verse or tragedy. After his arrival, the way was prepared葉he path
made straight for Shakespeare.
佑harles Algernon Swinburne, poet
MORE PRAISE
Brief Life
Sudden & fearful end
Marlowe Lives! blog --New!
Marlovian Newsletter
Marlovian Press
The 全hakespeare' Hoax
Books, essays, and links
Organizations, prizes, links
READ DAVID MORE'S 'rap' epic (did someone say "rapic"?) in progress
The Marliad
Charles Nicholl takes another stab at solving the mystery of
Marlowe's murder in a
2nd edition of The Reckoning
*******************
Take a lurk at the HLAS Newsgroup about
Shakespeare authorship
The 2002 Fausty
for excellence in communicating Marlowe's claim to fame as Shakespeare
goes to Mike Rubbo
for his Prize winning film
Much Ado About Something
As seen on TV !
PBS Frontline website
Read the Marlovian newsletter article.
(unquote)
* * * * * * *
I think I'll start with the blog!
no time just now...
* * * * * * *
http://www.marlovian.com/images/photos.html
(quote)
To commemorate the 10th Anniversary of the founding of the Marlowe
Lives! Association, more photos will be posted on this page in coming
weeks.
lowercase dave, april 29, 2003
(unquote)
lowercase dave????
I guess this is one of the bits of code referred to above!
or is it the new nom-de-plume...
* * * * * * *
"Quinquereme of Nineveh, from distant Ophir,
rowing home to haven in sunny Palestine..."
"speed bonny boat, like a bird on the wing"
lyra
Yogi Buchon
Welcome back Dave!! And, a hearty "Thank you!" for publishing my
12-point theory in your newsletter.
Truly,
Yogi
DaveMore
>
>Can you remember the url?
Talk about ironic! Of course i can remember the url, Greg. I must have
forgotten in my rush to get on the road for an important family function.
Thanks to "lyra" for helping out.
Had hoped to discuss *The Marliad* <http://www.marlovian.com/marliad> when I
returned, but Thomas Edward's "envoy" to his poem, Narcissus, is commanding
everyone's attention (certainly mine), so if you'll excuse me...I have a thing
or two to contribute to that thread.
STill open to helpful commentary or criticism of The Marliad, which is more
Pope than Shakespeare, and far from donne.
dave
Greg Reynolds
> Greg Reynolds <eve...@core.com> writes:
>
> >
> >Can you remember the url?
>
> Talk about ironic! Of course i can remember the url, Greg. I must have
> forgotten in my rush to get on the road for an important family function.
> Thanks to "lyra" for helping out.
I only ask in that I will soon appeal to Wolfgang to
see if we can link to all websites maintained by HLAS
people. Unless that's ever been a problem in the past,
I think it would be highly worthwhile. Bar none.
> Had hoped to discuss *The Marliad* <http://www.marlovian.com/marliad> when I
> returned, but Thomas Edward's "envoy" to his poem, Narcissus, is commanding
> everyone's attention (certainly mine), so if you'll excuse me...I have a thing
> or two to contribute to that thread.
I'm rope-a doping that thread, waiting for a knockout punch.
> STill open to helpful commentary or criticism of The Marliad, which is more
> Pope than Shakespeare, and far from donne.
>
> dave
Marliad rhymes with gnarly, odd.
Roundtable
> Poet-dramatist Christopher Marlowe was not murdered in 1593, but
> banished.
Hence-banished is banish'd from the world,
And world's exile is death: then banished,
Is death mis-term'd: calling death banishment,
Thou cutt'st my head off with a golden axe,
And smilest upon the stroke that murders me.
They are free men, but I am banished.
And say'st thou yet that exile is not death?
Roundtable
DaveMore
writes:
>Marliad rhymes with gnarly, odd.
it's more like
barley fad, harley lad, parley bad, or, my favorite...quarrel, egad!
DaveMore
>Marliad rhymes with gnarly, odd.
it's more like
DaveMore
>Marliad rhymes with gnarly, odd.
it's more like
barley fad, harley lad, parley bad, or, my favorite...quarrel, egad!
dave
ChatMoreCo
triplicate post! using AOL Auto-send for the first time. My bad.
Despite this, hoping for some helpful commentary from readers of my "rap"
epic-in-progress, or like verses from poets of other "candidates."
URLy dad
ChatMoreCo
> Hence-banished is banish'd from the world,
> And world's exile is death: then banished,
> Is death mis-term'd: calling death banishment,
> Thou cutt'st my head off with a golden axe,
> And smilest upon the stroke that murders me.
>
> They are free men, but I am banished.
> And say'st thou yet that exile is not death?
>
Why don't you put yourself in Marley's place?
One day, on top the world, then in disgrace,
Banished to death for crimes against the state,
In order to escape a worse fate,
Leaving an indelible trace
In his famous "William Shakespeare" plays.
Hear what Juliet's hero Romeo says.
He had killed her cousin in a three-way duel,
The Prince of Verona thought it wasn't cool,
So he kicked the lover out of town.
The lover felt foolish-he was really down:
(Can you hear Marley's voice coming through?
You know: Will Shakespeare, Monsieur LeDoux?)
...Banishment! Be merciful, say "death,"
For exile hath more terror in his look,
Much more, than death. Do not say "banishment."
...Thou cut'st my head off with a golden ax,
And smilest upon the stroke that murders me.
For twenty lines, in anguish Romeo sighs:
His life is lower than a lowly housefly's
That can 'kiss' his lover's lips, and see her eyes.
Hadst thou no poison mixed, no sharp-ground knife,
No sudden mean of death, though ne'er so mean,
But 'banished' to kill me? He cries.
The plot is complicated by Juliet's father
Who says she must get married to another-
But Julie'd rather save her virgin breath,
The Friar gives her poison to fake her death.
When Romeo finds his lover's breathless form,
Believing it, despite her body's warmth,
He kills himself with poison potion quick;
His life is over fast (not even sick),
Only time for a final lover's kiss,
Which Romeo gives Juliet in bliss.
When she awakens and sees his sin,
She grabs his dagger, and pierces her own skin.
The story had been told by Arthur Brooke,
In 40 hurried stanzas, although it took
The lovers nine long months to do themselves in
(But with longer speeches), while Marley's twin
(Shakespeare) killed them before their marriage could begin--
Five days was the span--about what Kit had
On that fine day in May that turned out bad.
from Part 2 of the Marliad
<http://www.marlovian.com/marliad>
lowercase dave
>
> > Hence-banished is banish'd from the world,
> > And world's exile is death: then banished,
> > Is death mis-term'd: calling death banishment,
> > Thou cutt'st my head off with a golden axe,
> > And smilest upon the stroke that murders me.
> >
> > They are free men, but I am banished.
> > And say'st thou yet that exile is not death?
> >
then chatm...@aol.com (ChatMoreCo) wrote in message
> Why don't you put yourself in Marley's place?
<snip 40 some odd lines>
now, I, graydoggydog, the world's oldest white rapper, rise up from my
nap to say that the verses from The Marliad posted by ChatMoreCo were
not authorized by me, and not included in what I have posted at
<www.marlovian.com>. Someone thought they were doing me a favor by
posting it. But that section was obviously not ready for publication.
i've amended the opening lines as follows
Put yourself in Kit Marley's place:
One day, on top the world, then in disgrace,
Banished for crimes against the church-state,
And yet, he left a biographic trace
In his famous "William Shakespeare" plays.
but the rest of it will have to wait,
For Thomas Edwards' verse I first must contemplate
david more
KQKnave
graydo...@netscape.net (lowercase dave) writes:
>
>then chatm...@aol.com (ChatMoreCo) wrote in message
>
>> Why don't you put yourself in Marley's place?
><snip 40 some odd lines>
>
>now, I, graydoggydog, the world's oldest white rapper, rise up from my
>nap to say that the verses from The Marliad posted by ChatMoreCo were
>not authorized by me, and not included in what I have posted at
><www.marlovian.com>. Someone thought they were doing me a favor by
>posting it. But that section was obviously not ready for publication.
>i've amended the opening lines as follows
>
>Put yourself in Kit Marley's place:
>One day, on top the world, then in disgrace,
>Banished for crimes against the church-state,
>And yet, he left a biographic trace
>In his famous "William Shakespeare" plays.
>
>but the rest of it will have to wait,
>For Thomas Edwards' verse I first must contemplate
Stop talking to yourself. Marlowe couldn't possible have written
the works of Shakespeare. He died in 1593, and Macbeth and
the Tempest were written after 1605.
See my demolition of Monsarrat's RES paper!
http://hometown.aol.com/kqknave/monsarr1.html
The Droeshout portrait is not unusual at all!
http://hometown.aol.com/kqknave/shakenbake.html
Agent Jim
Roundtable
Yes, and you wrote me an email too, which I deleted without
reading because I thought it was spam from a CHAT-room.
I was, however, almost tempted to open another mail, which asked
me:
"lancelotinlove - Seek of spam?"
No, I seek it not, but I find it.
"Eh gringo, che pasa? You seek of spam? You prefer taco?"
Whatever.
Roundtable
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lowercase dave
>
> Stop talking to yourself. Marlowe couldn't possible have written
> the works of Shakespeare. He died in 1593, and Macbeth and
> the Tempest were written after 1605.
Nice to see you specializing, Jim. It's good to have a mantra-like
phrase to fall back on when at a loss for words. Mine is "Christopher
Marlowe was not murdered in 1593, but banished; he continued writing
under the nom-de-plume 'William Shakespeare'"
Finally--in my third day of looking--obtained a copy of Edwards's
poems and envoy to Narcissus. It promises to be far more interesting
than anything you or I could write. More than you, at least. ;)
what preceded:
KQKnave
graydo...@netscape.net (lowercase dave) writes:
>Nice to see you specializing, Jim. It's good to have a mantra-like
>phrase to fall back on when at a loss for words. Mine is "Christopher
>Marlowe was not murdered in 1593, but banished; he continued writing
>under the nom-de-plume 'William Shakespeare'"
>
But that's plainly idiotic, since the coroners report, and about 14
witnesses, testified that he was dead, and no one ever referred to
him as alive or connected to Shakespeare, either during Shakespeare's
lifetime or after until this century.
And I find your continual email name changes annoying too.
lowercase dave
email address. Prompted by your post, she posted a pertinent segment
of my little epic both to the group and to you, not knowing that Part
2, has not yet published. You can see selections from Part One at
<www.marlovian.com/marliad>.
In any case, I'll be posting under "dave...@aol.com" if i'm reading
messages directly on AOL or "graydoggydog" if i'm accessing through
google.
sorry for the duality, but at least I'm sparing you my other aol
screenames: Websteria, Tryworker, Shawnee2K and Marlovian. The
spammers haven't found those addresses yet.
dave
"Roundtable" <roundtab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<b1cee925230df6cddfd...@mygate.mailgate.org>...
lowercase dave
> But that's plainly idiotic, since the coroners report, and about 14
> witnesses, testified that he was dead, and no one ever referred to
> him as alive or connected to Shakespeare, either during Shakespeare's
> lifetime or after until this century.
>
> And I find your continual email name changes annoying too.
Sorry about the email names changes. I explain why to Roundtable. From
now on, only two, i promise, unless the spirit or necessity move me.
Speaking of moving, I've gotta be, on to other threads.