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zoara

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Nov 12, 2003, 7:09:09 PM11/12/03
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My Tungsten E is scuffed from rubbing against the stitching in the
flipcover. Anyone else seeing this?

Anything I can do to prevent it that's more aesthetically pleasing than
the current solution of sticky tape over the stitching?

Can I remove the scuffing in any way?

Are there any aftermarket flipcovers that are identical (I don't want a
fancy slipcase or anything) except without the stitching?

How likely is screen-damage or inadvertant (sp?) activation whilst in my
pocket if I don't use *any* cover?

And finally... why didn't Palm test this?!


Will try to provide pictures if requested.


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Nov 13, 2003, 9:01:46 AM11/13/03
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"zoara" <m...@privacy.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:1g4c5j8.1vet0f241qccN%m...@privacy.net...

>
> My Tungsten E is scuffed from rubbing against the stitching in the
> flipcover. Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Anything I can do to prevent it that's more aesthetically pleasing than
> the current solution of sticky tape over the stitching?

This seems to be a confirmed fact.
I read on a newsgroup that it is possible to remove the whole stitching (it
has only a cosmetic purpose), nothing will fall apart.
This should be the most effective solution, if not particularly elegant. May
be it is a hell of a job.


Another solution would be to precisely cut an undercover out of a piece of
felt (feutre in french?) and fix it with some lignt touchs of a well choosen
glue.

This is the main silly flaw about the T|E components. Any color plain
unpainted plastic would have been better.

mb


Victoria Bolles

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Nov 13, 2003, 11:52:48 AM11/13/03
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In article <s7Msb.8463$fX5....@weber.videotron.net>,
"Mike" <pic...@espana.net> wrote:

I've had a Tungsten E for almost two weeks now (birthday gift; first
handheld), and I'm baffled by the problems others have had with the
stitching on the flipcover causing scratches. I have *tried* to scratch
my T|E with the flipcover, just to see if I have the problem, and I just
don't. The stitching does not project above the leather, which is very
soft.

So -- I wonder if Palm got into a bad batch of flipcovers, and I just
got lucky with one from a good batch? What do you suppose would happen
if you contacted Palm's CS, explained the problem (and indicated that it
is widespread) and asked for a replacement? Given that Palm CAN supply a
cover that doesn't scratch, don't you think they should provide you with
one?

Victoria

Ric

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Nov 13, 2003, 3:02:36 PM11/13/03
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Mike wrote:
> "zoara" <m...@privacy.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news:1g4c5j8.1vet0f241qccN%m...@privacy.net...
>>
>> My Tungsten E is scuffed from rubbing against the stitching in the
>> flipcover. Anyone else seeing this?
>>
>> Anything I can do to prevent it that's more aesthetically pleasing
>> than the current solution of sticky tape over the stitching?
>
> This seems to be a confirmed fact.
> I read on a newsgroup that it is possible to remove the whole
> stitching (it has only a cosmetic purpose), nothing will fall apart.
> This should be the most effective solution, if not particularly
> elegant. May be it is a hell of a job.
>

I did this but in fact it didn't help. Once you remove the stitching the
holes in the plastic have sharp enough edges that they will still scratch
the casing. I then tried using a flathead screwdriver to push in the plastic
where the stiching was so it would be indented inwards and not in contact
with the casing. I'm not sure if this worked or not, but I did notice that
the corners of the cover actually are sharp enough and protrude enough
inwards (possibly after being warped a bit from regular use) that they will
leave scratches in the casing, even if the threading doesn't. Final note,
although there is glue that keeps the cover together in the absence of the
stitching, I found it's not particularly good glue. When I washed the cover
under the tap, the water dissolved enough of the glue to make one of the
corners split open. Nothing a little super glue couldn't fix, but given that
removing the threading doesn't seem to help the scratching problem, I'd
recommend against doing it since the threading will add to the longevity of
the cover and looks pretty decent, too.

>
> Another solution would be to precisely cut an undercover out of a
> piece of felt (feutre in french?) and fix it with some lignt touchs
> of a well choosen glue.

What I ended up doing, which I think works, is using some felt "surface
saver" which you should be able to find in any hardware store or even a good
convenience store. They're little circular pieces of felt with sticky backs
you stick under stuff you place on your desk to keep from scratching it.
Strategically sticking a few of these around the inner threading will
prevent the cover from directly contacting the casing. Custom cutting a
piece of felt and gluing it on may look better, but the surface savers are
quick and easy if you don't want to spend any time/effort on it.


>
> This is the main silly flaw about the T|E components. Any color plain
> unpainted plastic would have been better.
>

I think these are the ideal solution:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/pda-flip-covers.htm

except they don't have one for the T|E. I've already put my vote for a T|E
version. Maybe if enough of you do as well, they'll make us one. I also
voted for a plastic window and a hole over the select button so you can view
the time without opening the cover. (In fact, I made a window and select
button hole for this purpose in the included flip cover. Works quite well.)

> mb

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Alan

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Nov 13, 2003, 3:12:55 PM11/13/03
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Mine doesn't scratch, either.


"Victoria Bolles" <vbo...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> In article <s7Msb.8463$fX5....@weber.videotron.net>,
> "Mike" <pic...@espana.net> wrote:
>

> > "zoara" <m...@privacy.net> a icrit dans le message de

Mike

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Nov 13, 2003, 3:53:13 PM11/13/03
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This seems to be a confirmed fact.
> > I read on a newsgroup that it is possible to remove the whole
> > stitching (it has only a cosmetic purpose), nothing will fall apart.
> > This should be the most effective solution, if not particularly
> > elegant. May be it is a hell of a job.
> >
>
> I did this but in fact it didn't help. Once you remove the stitching the
> holes in the plastic have sharp enough edges that they will still scratch
> the casing.
etc.etc.


THANKS Ric for all the very informative details!
m.b.


Christopher

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Nov 13, 2003, 9:41:20 PM11/13/03
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"Mike" <pic...@espana.net> wrote in message news:<b9Ssb.9660$fX5.2...@weber.videotron.net>...

Palm may be coming out with an updated Tungsten E ------ which may not
scratch, and will have an updated 5-way directional pad in which the
down button will work in 100% of units. Palm support has told some
customers this ---- although please do take it with a grain of salt.
(e.g. it may not be true, but hey you never know. Just keep your
receipt in case you want to exchange your TE within the 30 day period
or so)

Steve Knight

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:59:57 PM11/13/03
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:12:55 -0500, "Alan" <al...@erols.com> wrote:

>Mine doesn't scratch, either.
>

feel lucky the thing scratches just looking at it wrong.

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zoara

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Nov 14, 2003, 4:31:40 PM11/14/03
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Victoria Bolles <vbo...@myrealbox.com> wrote:

> I've had a Tungsten E for almost two weeks now (birthday gift; first
> handheld), and I'm baffled by the problems others have had with the
> stitching on the flipcover causing scratches. I have *tried* to scratch
> my T|E with the flipcover, just to see if I have the problem, and I just
> don't. The stitching does not project above the leather, which is very
> soft.

That's interesting. On the *front* of my flipcover, the stitching is
below the level of the leather - you can just about feel it if you run
your finger over the stitching. On the *back* (ie where it contacts the
Palm), not only is the stitching above the level of the leather, but it
actually feels sharp to the touch.

> So -- I wonder if Palm got into a bad batch of flipcovers, and I just
> got lucky with one from a good batch? What do you suppose would happen
> if you contacted Palm's CS, explained the problem (and indicated that it
> is widespread) and asked for a replacement? Given that Palm CAN supply a
> cover that doesn't scratch, don't you think they should provide you with
> one?

Well, it's worth a try. I'll flex my consumer muscles a bit and try for
a replacement Palm (as mine is now 'scarred' and looks nasty to fussy
old me), but I doubt that I'll succeed. I should at least be able to get
a flipcover, especially as it does seem (reasonably) widespread.

Will call them tomorrow and report back, if I get chance.

Thanks to all for the feedback.

Brian P.

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:39:15 PM11/14/03
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This is interesting - I wan on the verge on buying one of these units, but
after reading the constant complaints of the week directional pad I wondered
if Palm would fix it somehow in a new production run.

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Brian
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Ric

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Nov 19, 2003, 7:35:53 PM11/19/03
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zoara wrote:
> My Tungsten E is scuffed from rubbing against the stitching in the
> flipcover. Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Anything I can do to prevent it that's more aesthetically pleasing
> than the current solution of sticky tape over the stitching?
>

Buy some small felt "surface savers" with sticky backs and attach some
around the stitching. This will prevent the cover from directly touching the
Handheld. Whether this is more aesthetically pleasing than your current
solution you'll have to decide. When I first did this I thought it was a bit
goofy looking, but as I've used it I've come to appreciate its industrial
appeal... If you're a stickler for looks you might want to buy a sheet of
felt, cut it to size and glue it on.

> Can I remove the scuffing in any way?

Call Palm tech support and tell them your D-pad's down button
intermittentaly doesn't work. They'll replace it for you, although if you
don't happen to live close enough to exchange it in person, this will
require you first sending them your current Handheld and get the replacement
by mail, so you're looking at 1 week or so of T|E withdrawl... Of course, I
would never encourage anyone to lie... But chances are good that your
D-pad's down button really doesn't work. Mine was fine for the first week
and then would only work intermittantly. I got a replacement which was
really weird as it refuses to write to SD cards (reads okay) and contains
calculator and expense in ROM, which weren't there on my first one and from
what's written on the support site I gather shouldn't be there in the
production units... Anyway, here's hoping 3rd time's a charm...

>
> Are there any aftermarket flipcovers that are identical (I don't want
> a fancy slipcase or anything) except without the stitching?

I think these are the ideal product:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/pda-flip-covers.htm but they don't have one
for the T|E. I'm hoping enough people will e-mail them requisting it that
they'll come out with one soon.

>
> How likely is screen-damage or inadvertant (sp?) activation whilst in
> my pocket if I don't use *any* cover?
>
> And finally... why didn't Palm test this?!
>
>
> Will try to provide pictures if requested.
>
>
> -z-

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Taimur Khan

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Nov 20, 2003, 5:05:28 PM11/20/03
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My Tungsten E too has been scratched, the paint is VERY prone to
scratching and smudges.

However, any thoughts on repairing the scratches and smudges. The
scratches are paint only, I wonder if a finishing type metal paint or
polish would help?

Thoughts and Suggestions?

- Taimur Khan


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