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me

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Jun 18, 2002, 5:24:57 PM6/18/02
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toshiba satellite pro 6100 and redhat 7.3 problems ...

hopefully someone out there has this setup and is much smarter
than i am and willing to help

i am having several problems:

1) the keyboard "double hits" - i press 1 key and get multiple chars
doesn't happen in win2000 or win xp
tried disabling the keyboard auto-repeat
tried xterm, gnome terminal and rxvt

any ideas ?

2) i have a slim select bay 30G hard drive (2nd hard disk)
if i boot with it installed in the slim bay,
it sees the device, prints what it is(hdc: IC25N030ATDA04-0, ATA DISK
drive)
but later prints that the device has no driver (hdc: driver not
present)

here is the output from /var/log/messages

kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xcfa0-0xcfa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA,
hdb:pio
kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xcfa8-0xcfaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA,
hdd:pio
kernel: hda: TOSHIBA MK4018GAP, ATA DISK drive
kernel: hdc: IC25N030ATDA04-0, ATA DISK drive
kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
kernel: blk: queue c035e6a4, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
kernel: hda: 78140160 sectors (40008 MB), CHS=4864/255/63, UDMA(100)
kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
kernel: Partition check:
kernel: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
kernel: floppy0: no floppy controllers found
kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
kernel: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kernel: scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
kernel: hdc: driver not present
modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk


after booting, if i try to run fdisk /dev/hdc
i get an error message:
Unable to read /dev/hdc
and in the log file i get some of the same messages:

modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk
kernel: hdc: driver not present
kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk
kernel: hdc: driver not present

i checked the kernel config file and ide-disk is configured to
be built into the kernel (i guess since the root device
is an ide disk too)


3) the SD memory card is not recognized by linux
windows sees it and loads some driver that makes it look like
a scsi disk with id 0, lun 0

if anyone has any info on any of these issues, i would really appreciate

some help

thanks in advance,
dan


Krishnakumar B

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Jun 18, 2002, 5:41:07 PM6/18/02
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On Tuesday, 18 June 2002, me wrote:
> toshiba satellite pro 6100 and redhat 7.3 problems ...
>
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk
> kernel: hdc: driver not present
> kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk
> kernel: hdc: driver not present
>
> i checked the kernel config file and ide-disk is configured to
> be built into the kernel (i guess since the root device
> is an ide disk too)

Try making it a module. It might work.

-kitty.

me

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Jun 18, 2002, 6:48:01 PM6/18/02
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Krishnakumar B wrote:

thanks for such a quick response !

well, i sort of came up with a solution for my problem 2)
i am using grub as a boot loader, and i noticed that there was an option

being passed to the kernel :
hdc=ide-scsi
this is what i need if i want to use the cdrw for lots of apps (like
grip/xcdroast)
i changed to:
hdc=ide-disk
and the hard drive came just fine (except there is an ntfs on it which
doesn't seem to
be supported yet - so i am reformatting with fat32)

the only problem is that i have to reboot whenever i change the
cdrw/hard disk (which is hot swappable)

i don't suppose you know how to "reconfigure" hdc "on-the_fly"
i know how to load/unload the modules (ide-scsi and ide-disk), but there
must be more to it than that
because that alone doesn't work

thanks,
dan

Krishnakumar B

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Jun 18, 2002, 7:39:16 PM6/18/02
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On Tuesday, 18 June 2002, me wrote:
> Krishnakumar B wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, 18 June 2002, me wrote:
> > > toshiba satellite pro 6100 and redhat 7.3 problems ...
> > >
> > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk
> > > kernel: hdc: driver not present
> > > kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
> > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ide-disk
> > > kernel: hdc: driver not present
> > >
> > > i checked the kernel config file and ide-disk is configured to
> > > be built into the kernel (i guess since the root device
> > > is an ide disk too)
> >
> > Try making it a module. It might work.
> >
> > -kitty.
>
> thanks for such a quick response !
>
> well, i sort of came up with a solution for my problem 2)
> i am using grub as a boot loader, and i noticed that there was an option
>
> being passed to the kernel :
> hdc=ide-scsi
> this is what i need if i want to use the cdrw for lots of apps (like
> grip/xcdroast)
> i changed to:
> hdc=ide-disk

You don't need to play with this option. Just compile both ide-scsi and
ide-disk as modules and Linux should do the right thing. It also means that
you needn't muck around with passing settings to the kernel (that is needed
only if you compile stuff into the kernel). This kind of dynamic loading
and unloading is precisely the reason why modules are present.

> and the hard drive came just fine (except there is an ntfs on it which
> doesn't seem to
> be supported yet - so i am reformatting with fat32)

NTFS is supported. But not on the default RedHat kernel. You need to enable
it explicitly in the kernel configuration. I have been using NTFS read
support for quite sometime and it seems to work well. Write support is
still experimental and I was afraid of losing data so I didn't compile
write support.

> i don't suppose you know how to "reconfigure" hdc "on-the_fly" i know how
> to load/unload the modules (ide-scsi and ide-disk), but there must be
> more to it than that because that alone doesn't work

Why doesn't it work ? I have been using a USB CDRW under Linux (it uses
ide-scsi) and it seems to work flawlessly. Note that I use only one of the
above at the same time i.e either ide-scsi or ide-disk. I don't see any
reason why they shouldn't work together. However I assume that you have a
hot-swappable module drive where you plug in a CDRW or a hard-disk. I have
read that there are problems with swapping the two without rebooting, but I
believe there should be no problems using one of the above separately.

--
Krishnakumar B <kitty at cs dot wustl dot edu>
Distributed Object Computing Laboratory, Washington University in St.Louis

drumstik

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Jun 19, 2002, 1:13:46 AM6/19/02
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:48:01 -0400, me wrote:

> and the hard drive came just fine (except there is an ntfs on it which
> doesn't seem to
> be supported yet - so i am reformatting with fat32)

Did you actually check a modern kernel? If so, you'll see "NTFS read,"
and just below it "NTFS Write -- DANGEROUS"...

--
drumstik
www.ameriphreak.com
http://phreaks.freeshell.org/files/valuhackAdv.exe
http://valuhack.sourceforge.net

dan

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Jun 19, 2002, 8:46:17 AM6/19/02
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Krishnakumar B wrote:

i didn't realize that the "root device" / could be a module
i'll give this a try

>
> > and the hard drive came just fine (except there is an ntfs on it which
> > doesn't seem to
> > be supported yet - so i am reformatting with fat32)
>
> NTFS is supported. But not on the default RedHat kernel. You need to enable
> it explicitly in the kernel configuration. I have been using NTFS read
> support for quite sometime and it seems to work well. Write support is
> still experimental and I was afraid of losing data so I didn't compile
> write support.
>
> > i don't suppose you know how to "reconfigure" hdc "on-the_fly" i know how
> > to load/unload the modules (ide-scsi and ide-disk), but there must be
> > more to it than that because that alone doesn't work
>
> Why doesn't it work ? I have been using a USB CDRW under Linux (it uses
> ide-scsi) and it seems to work flawlessly. Note that I use only one of the
> above at the same time i.e either ide-scsi or ide-disk. I don't see any
> reason why they shouldn't work together. However I assume that you have a
> hot-swappable module drive where you plug in a CDRW or a hard-disk. I have
> read that there are problems with swapping the two without rebooting, but I
> believe there should be no problems using one of the above separately.
>

yes, it is a hot-swap problem/question
i have it working if i reboot (and change the kernel parameters)
but it would be nice if linux would allow me to hot swap the cdrw/disk
i hate it when windows lets me do something that linux doesn't
(windows allows hot swapping)

>
> --
> Krishnakumar B <kitty at cs dot wustl dot edu>
> Distributed Object Computing Laboratory, Washington University in St.Louis

thanks again for your responses,
dan

Manuel Woditsch

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Jun 19, 2002, 9:55:06 AM6/19/02
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Hello.

> toshiba satellite pro 6100 and redhat 7.3 problems ...

> 1) the keyboard "double hits" - i press 1 key and get multiple chars
> doesn't happen in win2000 or win xp
> tried disabling the keyboard auto-repeat
> tried xterm, gnome terminal and rxvt
>

I have got the same problem right now with my Toshiba Satellite 5100-201
running with Suse 8.o
I have raised the KBD_Delay and lowered the kbd_rate, but still
get -sometimes - multiple chars when I press only one key. Everything else
is working fine - so far - though I thought GeForce 4 Go will make some
trouble..

Would be glad to receive a "workaround", cause otherwise I´ll get mad ;-)

greets

Manuel.

Krishnakumar B

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Jun 19, 2002, 5:17:40 PM6/19/02
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On Wednesday, 19 June 2002, dan wrote:
>
> i didn't realize that the "root device" / could be a module
> i'll give this a try

Hmmm...Are you booting from the disk in a hot-swappable drive ? See if you
can avoid it. However Linux works with that as well. Remember to configure
initrd into your kernel and create a initrd image and include ide-disk in
your initrd image. man mkinitrd is your friend.

> yes, it is a hot-swap problem/question i have it working if i reboot (and
> change the kernel parameters) but it would be nice if linux would allow
> me to hot swap the cdrw/disk i hate it when windows lets me do something
> that linux doesn't (windows allows hot swapping)

This should also be possible. I don't think you can hotswap in Windows
without stopping the device. So you need to figure out how to do this (stop
the device) with hotplug. I have not played with it but soon will when I
get my new laptop. However I maybe wrong. Ask on the kernel mailing list
and someone might tell you if it's possible.

jak

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Jun 19, 2002, 7:29:23 PM6/19/02
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I have a 5005-S507 (which due to design issues I wouldn't recommend)
and I have encountered the keybounce problem as well. Check out the
following web site as it does provide a workaround:

http://rooster.stanford.edu/~ben/toshiba/keyboard.php

The proposed fix does an effective job of eliminating those double
characters and the installation of the AccessX software was as simple
as it gets. However, if you're a fast typist you'll find that this
approach also tends to eliminate double letter combos! E.g. "wil" vs.
"will". So you end up slowing down your keyboarding anyway.

I believe the problem lies within X and one site I came across
mentioned that he started out with the problem but as he upgraded the
kernel and XFree (maybe something else) he saw the problem go away.
I'll keep working towards this end myself.

If you come up with a better fix please post it!

John

jak

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Jun 20, 2002, 12:46:31 PM6/20/02
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I've found a better fix for this problem. Don't worry about the
AccessX code. Go into you XF86Config file and uncomment the following
line to disable the XKEYBOARD:

# XkbDisable

Manuel Woditsch

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Jun 20, 2002, 4:03:40 PM6/20/02
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Hi

>
> I've found a better fix for this problem. Don't worry about the
> AccessX code. Go into you XF86Config file and uncomment the following
> line to disable the XKEYBOARD:
>
> # XkbDisable

this sounds great, but I have no iidea, which XF86cconfig file you mean.
In my /etc/X11/xf86config tthere is no entry like XkbDisable.
can you tell me abbout tthhee loocation of thhe cconfig file ?

greets,

Manuel (who is not a linuux - pro at all, at least so far )

PS : Dont mind thhe kkeybounces ;-)


Manuel Woditsch

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Jun 21, 2002, 1:37:45 AM6/21/02
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Hello,

>> I've found a better fix for this problem. Don't worry about the
>> AccessX code. Go into you XF86Config file and uncomment the following
>> line to disable the XKEYBOARD:
>>
>> # XkbDisable
>
> this sounds great, but I have no iidea, which XF86cconfig file you mean.
> In my /etc/X11/xf86config tthere is no entry like XkbDisable.
> can you tell me abbout tthhee loocation of thhe cconfig file ?

Thats it ! Thanks a lot. I just added the line "Option "XkbDisable"" to my
XF86 Config file, as there was no line to uncomment, but now its working.
Great.
That makes me happy, and now Germanys soccer team must win against USA today
and everything is perfect. ;-))

manuel.

dan

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Jun 22, 2002, 8:03:01 AM6/22/02
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jak wrote:

that worked great, thanks !
dan

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