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Alex

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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I'm thinking of getting a FZR400 as a first step off a 250 until my skills get a bit better before buying a "real" bike. But am I buying something I'll never be able to get rid of when I want to sell? What's the market like for 400's or should I just go straight to a 600?

Regards
Alex

Nicholas Uffindell

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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Alex,

When I was looking to go for a new bike, I was going to get an RVF400 (bloody sweet lookin' bike, that also went pretty well). I found that the insurance rate for either a VFR400 or RVF400 was great through the RACV......like $360 or so (22yo no traffic offences/accidents).

You need to work out why you think a 400 is for you, as I'm sure you'll be able to handle a 600. It all comes down to attitude and respect. I was going to choose the RVF for exclusivity/looks/and the V4 sound. Anyhow, then the TL1000R came out.....game over man....I went and
bought one of those instead.....but I diverse..... If I had the money to get another bike, I'd probably still buy the RVF.

I look at it, that there are plenty of great 600's for the same price as 400's but everyone's got one.

"You pays your money and takes you choice",

Best of luck

Nick
98 TLR
Yosh race sys, K&N an remap

Steve Driessens

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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On 2 Sep 1999 07:52:22 +0800, Alex<rij...@zip.com.au> wrote:

>I'm thinking of getting a FZR400 as a first step
>off a 250 until my skills get a bit better before buying
>a "real" bike. But am I buying something I'll never be
>able to get rid of when I want to sell? What's the market
>like for 400's or should I just go straight to a 600?
>

>Regards
>Alex

G'day Alex,

I faced a similar situation myself a few weeks ago. I was
shopping for my first street bike in several years and was
tossing up between a 400 or a 600. For me, the new bike
was to be a 'toy' as I work from home and don't need to
commute. (I'm a computer geek, and the bike is a 'God I'm
sick of this bloody computer, I'm going for a ride!' type
stress relief thingey.)

Anyway, I rode several different bikes but came away
from an RVF400 with the biggest grin on my face, so
that's the one I went for. The 400 is a hoot to ride
and that V4 engine sounds bloody marvelous! (The
after-market can helps there).

Anyway, I guess what you buy will be affected by where/how
you ride, but I've found a 400 to be perfectly adequate
for leaving a stupid grin on my face each time I ride it.

I don't expect any hassles in selling the bike at a later
date (my brother works for one of the grey importers and
they sell every VFR/RVF that they can get their hands on,
I'm not sure about other brands/models).

Just my 0.2c worth......

See ya,
Steve

--------------------------------------------------
Steve Driessens
st...@resortsoftware.com
http://www.resortsoftware.com/steve

Shawn Foo

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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Figure out why you want the 400.
If it is only, as I think you are saying, a stepping stone
to a 600, I wouldn't bother. I'd go straight to the bigger bike.
Just treat the bigger bike with respect. Remember that it
is different to the 250 and take some time to get used to it and
you should be fine.

If I was going to get a second bike, I'd probably
get a vfr400.. but my main bike needs a rack and needs to
be pillion friendly.. and I like my bandit.. :)

--
Shawn Foo
GPX-250 (Anon) -> Suzuki Bandit 600 (Foolan)

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Matthew Weinert

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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Alex,

If you are over about 165-170cm I think most of the 400's would be too small
for you. I am 182cm and spent 2 years on an FZR400. It was great fun, but after
a long ride I felt I had to be peeled off the bike. My current CBR6 is much
more comfy.

Matt

Dale Porter

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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In article <37cd...@news.ca.com.au>,

Alex<rij...@zip.com.au> wrote:
> I'm thinking of getting a FZR400 as a first step off a 250 until my
>skills get a bit better before buying a "real" bike. But am I buying
>something I'll never be able to get rid of when I want to sell? What's
>the market like for 400's or should I just go straight to a 600?

I went straight to a 600 after learning on a GPX-250. The only problem
I had at first was getting used to the extra bulk. But that was
overcome with a few rides. Other than that, it's a matter of being
aware that there's a fair bit more power on tap and riding accordingly.
But overall, 600's are still quite user-friendly. The power doesn't
really kick until the higher revs (on the 4 cylinders anyway)

--
Dale Porter (1992 CBR600 F2)
IRC nick: _Panther_
ICQ #: 3793015


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MeatyCrab

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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all this testosterone talk about throwing a leg over a bigger bike has got
my juices flowing (pphhhwwwoooaarr)...

anyway, after a serious off that had me out of the saddle for a year and a
half (of a 250cc), one of the first bikes i got on to a few weeks ago was a
duck 750SS...jjjeeeeeeeezzzaaaarrrssseee...

the thing rocketed away from me...my knuckles were white by the end of a
20min ride...it was the best fun i had had in ages...i can only wonder what
it would have been like riding a 900SS...

gotta get me a ducati...

BK


Dale Porter wrote in message <7qlfea$53v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

peter...@my-deja.com

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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In article <37cd...@news.ca.com.au>,
Alex<rij...@zip.com.au> wrote:

I went from a GPX250 to a YZF600. I must admit I was very careful when
I first got the YZF I don't think it was overwhelming. And the YZF
kicks arse!

Just be very careful. Spend your time thinking about the plastic
repair and hospital bills!

Don't worry the cars are all out to get you.

Joshua Pryor

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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peter...@my-deja.com wrote:
:
: I went from a GPX250 to a YZF600. I must admit I was very careful when
: I first got the YZF I don't think it was overwhelming. And the YZF
: kicks arse!

I went from a Z250 to an RG250 to an FJ1100 to a ZZR600

no real dramas with any of the transitions, as long as you've
got some sort of survival instinct you'll be fine.

Looking at a vfr400 for my next one :)

The Golden Llama

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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Aaahhhh!!!
Another Newcastle uni student =))


GL

OBMOTO: I took an SV650s out for a test ride the other day......damn it
was nice, had an aftermarket can on it, but sounded really sweet, hadnled
just like a 250....can't wait to get one =)

Johno

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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Shawn Foo wrote in article while trying to beat Geoff in the punning
stakes.......

> Shawn Foo
> GPX-250 (Anon) -> Suzuki Bandit 600 (Foolan)

Hi Shawn,
As you know - I am absolutely wrapped in my Bandit :) - what is your
opinion of the 600?

Cheers
Johno


Tim Moran

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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In article <7qlfea$53v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, dpo...@eisa.net.au says...

> In article <37cd...@news.ca.com.au>,
> Alex<rij...@zip.com.au> wrote:
> > I'm thinking of getting a FZR400 as a first step off a 250 until my
> >skills get a bit better before buying a "real" bike. But am I buying
> >something I'll never be able to get rid of when I want to sell? What's
> >the market like for 400's or should I just go straight to a 600?
>
> I went straight to a 600 after learning on a GPX-250. The only problem
> I had at first was getting used to the extra bulk. But that was
> overcome with a few rides. Other than that, it's a matter of being
> aware that there's a fair bit more power on tap and riding accordingly.
> But overall, 600's are still quite user-friendly. The power doesn't
> really kick until the higher revs (on the 4 cylinders anyway)
>
> --
> Dale Porter (1992 CBR600 F2)
> IRC nick: _Panther_
> ICQ #: 3793015
>
>
The extra bulk is something you get used to, I went from a 250 strait
onto the R1100rs without any major problems, I know it's nowhere near as
powerfull as a big bore sports bike but it's also a damn sight heavier.

The main advice I have is to just have respect for the bike, don't try
anything too stupid until you are sure that you are in control. Also
another thing to think about is once you've got the new bike go out an do
an advanced riding course on it, its a great way to get used to the new
bike in a controled enviroment with some proffesional advice nearby, I
did it and am damn glad I did.

Tim

OldRoader

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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Alex,

If your riding is to be commuting and touring go for the 600. If your
bikes is to be a "toy" and your riding is to be weekend twisties and
occasional trackdays then go for the 400. I've had 2 GSXR750s, a 124HP
Two Brothers Fireblade and I've just had a VFR400 for 2 years. These
last two years have been the most fun. (and the cheapest). For
learning about cornering and corner speed you can't go past a 400. In
the tight stuff there aren't too many bikes a well ridden 400 (esp a
VFR or RVF) can't keep honest. I'm missing the VFR already.

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